New Project Car - It’s a Honda! This Might be Our WILDEST Build Yet

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Yep, we’re granting Suppy's wish and actually building a Honda. BUT… it ain’t just any Honda. No, this right here came from Honda Performance Development telling us that they have an IndyCar engine for us - and that we should swap it into something cool. Who are we to say no to a request like that!?
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  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H 2 года назад +551

    I can't even begin to imagine how sick this build will be.

    • @600wheel
      @600wheel 2 года назад +18

      Don’t worry you will have a very long time to think about it

    • @griffinv8382
      @griffinv8382 2 года назад +4

      Same, never really been one for trucks but this will certainly be interesting.

    • @bryanluntz1603
      @bryanluntz1603 2 года назад +2

      HoonaHonda🏁

    • @andwooo9460
      @andwooo9460 2 года назад +8

      Yeah. On top of the lift in the background for the next 5 months

    • @ricardolugo9102
      @ricardolugo9102 2 года назад +2

      Did anyone else notice the V8 Honda "hellcat" engine (32valve supercharged) @6:27 ??????

  • @loelhenry1055
    @loelhenry1055 2 года назад +2699

    Can't wait to see it in storage

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen 2 года назад +678

    I'm still waiting for Suppy to finish his AWD Integra build...
    What the hell Suppy?!

    • @dexterhochstetler3727
      @dexterhochstetler3727 2 года назад +16

      Because Hoonigan

    • @WhuDhat
      @WhuDhat 2 года назад +28

      hert turned him to the dark side, and no one will let him suppyvise them building his own car lmao

    • @differentbydesign7603
      @differentbydesign7603 2 года назад +9

      Scotto has taken over

    • @kurtseyffert6649
      @kurtseyffert6649 2 года назад +6

      @@WhuDhat idk Hert built several cars and rebuilt several others the past few yrs

    • @highthai7
      @highthai7 2 года назад

      Right!

  • @wassabiemaster75
    @wassabiemaster75 2 года назад +297

    I love rons enthusiasm just causually saying make the ridgeline 1600 pounds🤣😂

    • @TheHoonigans
      @TheHoonigans  2 года назад +71

      "How hard can it be?"

    • @twanheijkoop6753
      @twanheijkoop6753 2 года назад +4

      Look alike built out of pipe frame and carbon panels, reassemble the ridgeline bois.

    • @rolon-ew5kl
      @rolon-ew5kl 2 года назад +3

      @@TheHoonigans famous last words before it becomes very difficult 😂

    • @Redeye_dyes
      @Redeye_dyes 2 года назад +1

      @@TheHoonigans thats what she said

    • @TheBeavadelic
      @TheBeavadelic Год назад +2

      @@TheHoonigans in the words of Richard Hammond- "DON'T SAY THAT!"

  • @StoicVisions
    @StoicVisions 2 года назад +56

    i dont think people realize how exclusive something like this is and how much of a treat is that were even viewing this

  • @AK1313
    @AK1313 2 года назад +36

    Big props to Honda for being so chill and allowing you guys to film inside. Cool to see the tour

  • @ThunderGoatz
    @ThunderGoatz 2 года назад +9

    Would have been cool to see a og nsx r with this in it but I'll take the Ridgeline too. Can't wait. I'm imagining a full tubular front end with Baja style suspension. Hitting jumps at 12k rpm sounds mega

    • @TheHoonigans
      @TheHoonigans  2 года назад +13

      NSX is cool, but expected. We like to get weird

    • @ThunderGoatz
      @ThunderGoatz 2 года назад

      @@TheHoonigans sooooo Honda Indy Toronto apperance confirmed?

    • @superfly2378
      @superfly2378 2 года назад +1

      @@TheHoonigans less weird more just lame, don't even think I'll keep up with this. Especially with how big of a let down the 2jZ FaF truck was, can't wait to watch this thing lose on This vs That

  • @Itch405
    @Itch405 2 года назад +45

    Suppy is my favorite person from Hoonigan because he actually knows what he's doing when it comes to building the car. We need more Suppy Content!!!!!!!

  • @toddbrown4185
    @toddbrown4185 2 года назад +19

    Massive shout out to Vinny and the crew for getting all these sponsorship opportunities for Hoonigan. He’s more than just a pretty face with a bmw addiction

    • @Heyitsallgoodman
      @Heyitsallgoodman 2 года назад +2

      Go Vinnie! "We asked them and they gave it to us" 🤣 how about 4 meetings and 80 emails to sort it out.

  • @moto569
    @moto569 2 года назад +131

    My dad was the Superintendent for the general contactor who built this facility, during the summers I worked there as a labor. Those dyno rooms are supposed to be soundproof. Towards the end of the project Honda came in a tested motors. It was amazing, you could hear them screaming anywhere in the warehouse.

    • @jesterokjones4954
      @jesterokjones4954 2 года назад +3

      That's awesome, out of all the engines tested it was the Hondas that you could hear scream.

    • @user-neo71665
      @user-neo71665 Год назад

      They did that so you can't hear the engineers getting beat after their project fails.

  • @Wizard_howl
    @Wizard_howl 2 года назад +35

    This is rad but still one of my favorite things about Hoonigan videos is the editing 😂 “No one really knows”

  • @SamuelsShea
    @SamuelsShea 2 года назад +53

    Imagine that engine in an S2000...makes me drool just thinking about it.

    • @RobsZombies
      @RobsZombies 2 года назад +18

      Anything but a ridgeline, pleeeeeease lol

    • @CrashRacknShoot
      @CrashRacknShoot 2 года назад +1

      First good idea here. That would be awesome

    • @TheHoonigans
      @TheHoonigans  2 года назад +31

      The problem with anything like a Civc, Integra, or S2k, is that you have to run the IndyCar transmission too - and that transmission is also part of the chassis. So you have to run it mid-engine, and that would leave you without room for a driver.

    • @jayrogers3578
      @jayrogers3578 2 года назад +15

      So you decided on a Ridgeline? Do you even know your audience? If only Honda made a cool mid engine car to put this in…

    • @ianpung1774
      @ianpung1774 2 года назад +14

      @@jayrogers3578 Yeah, so what if they went with a Ridgeline? It's Hoonigan my guy. They do unorthodox builds like this all the time.

  • @andrewilliams3406
    @andrewilliams3406 2 года назад +27

    Build series are the reason I’m a subscriber. I’m super stocked

  • @alexoehler1
    @alexoehler1 2 года назад +5

    This thing deserves to be installed in a NSX, nothing less than that

  • @brendanschnabel188
    @brendanschnabel188 2 года назад +1

    Suppy is so damn stoked and the ginger too. I forget his name but he has talent too

  • @SvetGolovkin1462
    @SvetGolovkin1462 2 года назад +11

    This is my daily jam right here! I'm so nerd for this. Wish Nads would be a part of this.

  • @shawnglover887
    @shawnglover887 2 года назад +1

    That clip of Master Splinter got me 👌 good stuff editors!

  • @Zanpaa
    @Zanpaa 2 года назад +28

    That single piston dyno sounds amazing. I'd love to work on the models there.

    • @joseacuna3239
      @joseacuna3239 2 года назад +1

      That is how high end designers work. Take a look on koenigsegg

  • @LawrenceGerman
    @LawrenceGerman 2 года назад +2

    Here’s my idea, just throwing this out there. (Haven’t read any of the other comments yet) How about creating a Type R Ridgeline?
    Lowered, Adjustable Suspension or Air Ride, Type R Style body kit, slightly wider flares, 20-22” wheels, leaning towards the Civic Type R Anime look. True Triple Pipe Exhaust. Six to 8 speed sequential gear box, RWD or AWD if the motor can take it. Sort of like a Honda Ridgeline Hoonitruck.

    • @TheHoonigans
      @TheHoonigans  2 года назад +2

      You're really, really close to the final concept of what we want to make this thing into...

  • @GolfRCumSlut
    @GolfRCumSlut 2 года назад +194

    that motor is definitely capable of revving out to 10-12k and making 680-750hp, throw it in something that won’t shred the tires and will actually hook up and slay a track
    grip and aero

    • @WhuDhat
      @WhuDhat 2 года назад +24

      yeah it's more than a bit wasted on a Ridgeline but they want to be different. one of these in a s660 would be it for me lmao

    • @CrashRacknShoot
      @CrashRacknShoot 2 года назад

      @@WhuDhat which would be WAY heavier than the truck.

    • @TheHoonigans
      @TheHoonigans  2 года назад +82

      That's the goal. Imagine if 2000s JGTC had a truck series... that's the look and performance we're going for.

    • @shifty1927
      @shifty1927 2 года назад +9

      @@TheHoonigans aww thats sick!! Can't wait to see the jgtc inspired body that'll be on it. Them and imsa had incredible looking widebodys on cars in the 90s.

    • @toasty5790
      @toasty5790 2 года назад +1

      @@TheHoonigans GL yall def know more than me, I'll just have to believe in ur vision 🤐

  • @mattyc2815
    @mattyc2815 2 года назад +14

    Suppy and Alex Grimm make the best pair! you guys rock together!

  • @charleybull33
    @charleybull33 2 года назад

    Damn Hoonigan, first Danger Dan with the HHIC yesterday and now a new build! Keep rocking it!

  • @mbeaudet411
    @mbeaudet411 2 года назад +8

    Whoever does the flash clips over at hoonigan, I swear we must have grown up at exactly the same time cuz every clip is a nostalgia blast. Thank you!

  • @luigi999ish
    @luigi999ish 2 года назад +1

    Do a full push/pull-rod suspension inspired by Indy Car.

  • @sunshineruffio8071
    @sunshineruffio8071 2 года назад +25

    As a Ridgeline owner and Hoonigan enjoyer this is by far and away a BOLD move, not alot of love for these in the community but im excited to see this. I have an 18 Sport AWD and it has been nothing short of entertaining even with the paltry 280hp, even happily gets to 114 with plenty left in 6th and can get down a backroad faster than youd expect. hope this gets us some aftermarket tuning attention and maybe some stuff in the Hooningan shop

    • @SmilinBastard
      @SmilinBastard 2 года назад +7

      No one cares

    • @sunshineruffio8071
      @sunshineruffio8071 2 года назад

      @@SmilinBastard yet here you are, on a video you don't care about making comments 😂

    • @TheHoonigans
      @TheHoonigans  2 года назад +39

      @@SmilinBastard we care.

    • @MoneyManJake
      @MoneyManJake 2 года назад

      Fr we do care this build is about to be crazy good

    • @sunshineruffio8071
      @sunshineruffio8071 2 года назад

      @@basedemt6608 I've seen the explorer and edge ST's they are gnarly with minor work, yeah the 17+ Ridgeline uses the j35y6 which is direct injection and of all the platforms using it the 15+ TLX is the only one with half assed support from k-tuner 😑, we can't even use the same bolt-ons the other j35s can because everything is different. It would be nice if they tossed in the new j30T in the Ridgeline but I doubt that 😒

  • @ashleymongiovi4543
    @ashleymongiovi4543 2 года назад

    You had us in the first half😂💀 A RIDGELINE?!? Gtfoh this was definitely Poopy’s idea. One of those TLXs would be way more capable and you could still do the rear engine. The only way it’d be crazy would be if you got a widebody kit *for a ridgline* and lowered it,big wing and big jonnies.

  • @Emil77777
    @Emil77777 2 года назад +11

    Oh heck. You've got the Mona Lisa and you're displaying it in your bathroom. That's what putting that engine in a ridgeline is.

  • @27WON
    @27WON 2 года назад

    Before you take it to SEMA can you swing by our shop here in Las Vegas so we can throw it on the Dyno and play with it in our yard PLEASE!!!!. This is going to be a sick build.

  • @CJ-zi9fg
    @CJ-zi9fg 2 года назад +9

    hoonigans editors never fail to amaze me. the effort that went into that supy excitement clip hurts my brain

  • @that_is_so_meta
    @that_is_so_meta 2 года назад

    Wow, completely sweep under the rug the legitimacy of the Knuckle Busters builds and Dan.

  • @antoniofranklyn5923
    @antoniofranklyn5923 2 года назад +9

    Props to the editor and the cameraman for respecting the privacy of this big company. I know yu guys don't get alot of credit but we see you!! Great job guys!!

    • @REAPER3fitty
      @REAPER3fitty Год назад

      They don't have a choice.

    • @mak4na8o8
      @mak4na8o8 Год назад

      @@REAPER3fitty yeah that’s true but they pulled it off perfectly, just one fuck up could lead to Honda pulling out for good

  • @xpim3d
    @xpim3d 2 года назад

    Duuude, that trip to the honda place, with all the cool details the guy was telling about, made this one of your best videos!! 🖤🖤

  • @stevenhill1074
    @stevenhill1074 2 года назад +3

    In house hoonigan content how I've missed you.

  • @nelsonriverajr.8381
    @nelsonriverajr.8381 Год назад +1

    I want that tailgate for my Ridgeline!!!!!! Bump please

  • @EvanField6380
    @EvanField6380 2 года назад +5

    Should put it in a older nsx, that would be the coolest honda ever

    • @samteks125
      @samteks125 2 года назад +1

      Thought the same! Would be so badass

    • @ezathel9294
      @ezathel9294 2 года назад +1

      damn, yeah, that'd be so dope.

    • @ericb1054
      @ericb1054 2 года назад +1

      Facts! or at least an S2K 😅. Would be cool to see it in the back of a civic hatch too. Like a Honda version of a Renault R5.

    • @EvanField6380
      @EvanField6380 2 года назад

      @@ericb1054 that would be sick the Renault R5 was crazy but a Civic hatch with that honda engine in the back would be on a whole different level

  • @chadbrobertson
    @chadbrobertson Год назад

    Great to see some vintage hit markers back again shoutout to the editor

  • @dakotalenzi7630
    @dakotalenzi7630 2 года назад +4

    Love seeing Suppy truly in his element…Keep that man happy and he will continue to make shit for you guys that will make everyone else happy….

  • @blahorgaslisk7763
    @blahorgaslisk7763 Год назад

    6:47 : That man is playing Galaga. Thought we wouldn't notice.

  • @josephmatuszak3855
    @josephmatuszak3855 2 года назад +4

    I may have tried to ram that in a mid nineties Accord Wagon.... cause crazy. But the Ridgeline is dope.

  • @user-pwfus
    @user-pwfus Год назад

    Dang I cannot wait for this project to start and finish you have to make this thing extremely light strong and ready for some serious jumps.

  • @chefcamsey1375
    @chefcamsey1375 2 года назад +4

    Shoutout to HPD. This is going to be sick. Suppy is pumped 💪

  • @345creative
    @345creative 2 года назад

    That’s sick being sponsored by a legendary manufacturer like Honda
    I think some guest appearances by legends like
    Jessey James the Jeneral would be dope
    Or a modern day monster garage would be mega

  • @jefffriesUwU
    @jefffriesUwU 2 года назад +6

    Nads would’ve loved this haha

    • @cheesepizza87
      @cheesepizza87 2 года назад

      Where’s he at ? You comment makes it sound like he passed away 😢

  • @BrandonMartinez-bb1ki
    @BrandonMartinez-bb1ki 2 года назад +2

    Suppys face when they mentioned the go kart motors 😂

  • @ROB-o-saur
    @ROB-o-saur 2 года назад +13

    So Suppy not ever finishing his RX-7 because he’s scared of Rob Dahm’S Rotary Corvette. it’s a shame but understandable.

  • @Mykesogynist
    @Mykesogynist 2 года назад

    You can’t allow suppy to walk around with that kind of hard on. He’s all tuned up my dudes!

  • @knuckles_fails
    @knuckles_fails 2 года назад +3

    In a Ridgeline.... Really...... Just disappointment

  • @Barry.ONeill
    @Barry.ONeill 2 года назад

    Well done to Honda and Hpd for steping up and trying to get a younger audience in. I want one of those engines 🙏🤙💯

  • @jasoncavanagh1048
    @jasoncavanagh1048 2 года назад +3

    Suppy has gone from being camera shy to one of the best vloggers on the channel. I think Alex had a lot to do with that as well. They seem to work incredibly well together. He seems to really be in his element and embrace his fun side that we didn't see as much a few years ago.

  • @clejmac8387
    @clejmac8387 2 года назад

    Getting to see the drawing of the Honda CAD cars was cool

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen 2 года назад +3

    Would have nice to have a 5 minute video (Layout, Engine, Suspension ect.) of their HONDA ACTY "ATTACK" KEI Truck!
    Please make this happen Suppy... 🙏

    • @kennykunie6660
      @kennykunie6660 2 года назад

      They’re talking about the ctr and I’m waiting for someone to even say a word about the kei truck 😂

  • @vanillathundr24
    @vanillathundr24 2 года назад +1

    That’s gotta go into an NSX!!

  • @sanders314
    @sanders314 2 года назад +4

    As a honda guy all my life im Soo hyped for this!

  • @BStrick1993
    @BStrick1993 Год назад

    I was hoping for a honda 8 cylinder indy motor but this is still insane! Can't wait!

  • @jw8361
    @jw8361 2 года назад +4

    Dudeee imagine this at a time attack machine 🔥🔥🔥

  • @ernstbergerbrent
    @ernstbergerbrent 2 года назад

    I better see Nads in this build. His absence from Honda vs haters is very disturbing.

  • @cheesepizza87
    @cheesepizza87 2 года назад +10

    Kinda gutted with that chassis choice

  • @matthewrodriguez7525
    @matthewrodriguez7525 2 года назад +2

    Master Splitter was a great add hahah😅 looking forward to this build ..

  • @aidenliam2130
    @aidenliam2130 2 года назад +4

    God damn I love suppy

  • @Torch4ya
    @Torch4ya Год назад

    Check out neutron engines. The guy is building a V8 block to accept K24 heads. He calls it the K48.

  • @Ivan-pi6ur
    @Ivan-pi6ur 2 года назад +4

    Finally these two are back

  • @kennethfellows8519
    @kennethfellows8519 Год назад

    Hooned out Honda bubble wrap would sound crazy popping.

  • @AstralTranzient
    @AstralTranzient 2 года назад +3

    That HPD tour 🔥

  • @gustavofigueiredo1798
    @gustavofigueiredo1798 2 года назад

    Suppy should Tony Stark this build and make them build it a certain way and without anyone noticing he comes back at night and swaps it from the Ridgeline to his Integra.

  • @JimmyJamesMarquees
    @JimmyJamesMarquees 2 года назад +7

    Nice! Maybe Hoonigan will do some cool stuff again?! 💪🏼😬

  • @dbdbdb1111111
    @dbdbdb1111111 2 года назад

    That's like finding a genie a one in a lifetime chance and getting one wish, and he's like you can ask for anything. But at the moment you really want a jelly donut and the genie is like you could have anything! World peace, be rich, immortal, end all suffering? And you're like no, one jelly donut please. This goes into an Acura NSX ty it fits yes

  • @gabosenpai4589
    @gabosenpai4589 2 года назад +4

    Kinda bummed that you guys (suppy) are putting it in a truck. Anyways whould LOVE to see that hing to go to baja

    • @tyvekhomewrap9164
      @tyvekhomewrap9164 2 года назад

      Agree

    • @suppymk4
      @suppymk4 2 года назад +1

      The way this “truck” is being built. It will not do well in Baja.

  • @fqzy4999
    @fqzy4999 2 года назад

    Something u gonna be interested in is k48. One guy is making v8 2 k24 engines together 👀👀

  • @robertmontalvo597
    @robertmontalvo597 2 года назад +4

    Imagine a world where all the automotive engineers were once mechanics who actually worked on cars.

  • @raymondjack4634
    @raymondjack4634 2 года назад

    Love the engine in the backseat idea.. Keep the bed cover on the back so its like the ultimate sleeper.

  • @lucasblanchard47
    @lucasblanchard47 2 года назад +3

    This build is gonna be SO SICK! Can’t want to see Suppy take it on it’s first rip!

  • @corvettez06usa
    @corvettez06usa 2 года назад

    All the talk about horsepower, my first thought is what kind of torque do these spin out and is it going to be enough to move a big honking truck reasonably.

  • @JohnTurner313
    @JohnTurner313 2 года назад

    An Indy car engine build in a Ridgeline?? Hell yes, I can't wait to see more episodes!!

  • @quincyrocker5121
    @quincyrocker5121 2 года назад

    This gonna b a sicc build. I’m already ready to see it ready

  • @hotlavaaaa
    @hotlavaaaa 2 года назад

    This thing better be out doing laps at the Long Beach Grand Prix next year.

  • @acid3129
    @acid3129 2 года назад

    I have an old 1997 jag xjs v12 touring car engine it needs alot of work to get it refurbished the pistons are fucked and because alot of it is non standard it's hard to find parts alot of it will need to be fabricated as a one off but I hope yo hear it run one day

  • @DanoFSmith-yc9tg
    @DanoFSmith-yc9tg 2 года назад +1

    We’re E.T and Suppy separated at birth? Lol.
    Just teasing everyone, I love the guy, and his work is top notch!

  • @CrunchyNotes
    @CrunchyNotes 2 года назад +2

    Am I the only one who has zero excitement to see a POS ridgeline get this honor? I know you gotta give Honda its respect but a ridgeline makes me dry heave.

  • @JibbaTheHoot
    @JibbaTheHoot 2 года назад

    Next series I want to see a Busso V6 engine revving to 11,000 RPM!!!

  • @justaformer11b95
    @justaformer11b95 Год назад

    I’d have pissed myself in nerd joy… so jealous of the HPD tour…
    I’d imagine Nads would have passed out. lol

  • @dakavanagh
    @dakavanagh 2 года назад

    I spotted those turbo hanger brackets as well. Nicely machined.

  • @JdmZack
    @JdmZack 2 года назад +2

    Honda was sleeping not doing this do the ridgeline from factory.

  • @theFinn294
    @theFinn294 2 года назад +2

    V70R in the honda parking lot. You love to see it.

  • @IISTAGII
    @IISTAGII 2 года назад

    This might singlehandedly make Ridgelines cool lol

  • @MrWencer
    @MrWencer 2 года назад

    Would have been nice to see a rear engine Indy engine powered CRX with the big scoop sitting on top of the back glass.

  • @rayvyn6
    @rayvyn6 Год назад

    Can't wait to watch another huge build series then watch it do one donut and never see it again.

  • @gettin-sendy
    @gettin-sendy Год назад +1

    Nooooo, that engine needs to be front-mid mounted in an Integra Type R.

  • @Like_Ike
    @Like_Ike 2 года назад +1

    Was so excited to see an indy V6 build instead of the usual k20s, 2jz, LS, or an Audi I5 and then we get to the shell and what is it?! A Ridgeline. 😑🤦🏾‍♂️ But it's being built by Hoonies so it'll most likely be good.

  • @theothermikeybastos
    @theothermikeybastos 2 года назад

    Build breakdown on Grimmz 280!!!

  • @crj06121995
    @crj06121995 2 года назад

    This thing will sound so amazing! Might be kind of cool to add one or two electric motors up front on a switch so it could be both RWD and AWDish lol

  • @Jerr4x
    @Jerr4x 2 года назад

    Shop wall @ 11:12 . Amazing.

  • @YotaWorxs
    @YotaWorxs 2 года назад +1

    When Alex said XRP 😈 the right path ❎🚀🌕, called ridge line seeing you guys place the engine there and bam! Ridge line 😂 now ima say Prerruner!

  • @ArthurSperotto
    @ArthurSperotto 2 года назад +2

    This is amazing but... did HPD also tell you the lifespan of those motors? lol

  • @eduu1717
    @eduu1717 2 года назад

    Two k20s put together huh.... now thay you guys say that. Two k20 sharing a displacement of 2.2 my God.
    How much boost does it run ...
    Those cylinder walls must be sooo thick almost twice as thick as a normal k20 I'm guessing . Wow I'm soo happy to see this project...
    Just why a Ridgeline.......

  • @SteenslandMedia
    @SteenslandMedia 2 года назад

    So like full offroad race truck with Indy motor? 🤔

  • @ThatBustedVQ
    @ThatBustedVQ 2 года назад

    That engine in an old NSX would be amazing

  • @samteks125
    @samteks125 2 года назад +1

    Come on, you have to put it in an NSX!

  • @codywakamatsu8013
    @codywakamatsu8013 2 года назад

    "PUT IT IN MY HONDA!" Had me rolling

  • @bloodykills7509
    @bloodykills7509 2 года назад

    Holy fuck this will be one of the craziest pickup trucks

  • @ZN8BD
    @ZN8BD 2 года назад

    Would’ve loved to see this engine out in a celica gt4 but still super excited for this build