Roland FP-30 vs Yamaha P-115 - Grand Piano sounds comparison [E-MUZYK.pl]
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2016
- Porównanie głównej barwy fortepianu przenośnych pianin cyfrowych Yamaha P-115 i Roland FP-30 nagrane dla E-MUZYK.pl. Nagranie z wyjść liniowych (P-115) i wyjścia słuchawkowego (FP-30). Porównanie brzmienia pokładowy systemów nagłośnieniowych wkrótce. Demo nagrane w sklepie MUSIC STORE w Poznaniu.
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Awesome comparison!! After viewing this video I went out and bought a Steinway 9 foot grand for $75,000.00! My only complaint is it has no headphone jack, no rhythms, no layering capability, it's too large and heavy to throw in my civic and go gig with my homies, and I'm sure it's gonna go out of tune in a few months!! And it barely fits in my apartment!!
Hard truths isn't that like comparing a prius and a civic, then choosing a mclaren f1 instead?
lmao what is this post
you can drill some holes in the steinway and feed the wires thru. thats what i did.
Hahahaha
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While other people focus on FP30 and Yamaha, I am hypnotized by the guy playin' piano. All of the songs he played are really good! I love them all
I agree. Where can I get the full version of these songs? They are really catchy.
It's because you are a woman (emotion vs. ratio) :-D
Well, I'm a man and I also focus more on the player who puts his soul in his performance. The piano's... well.... that's just stupid hardware without soul ;-))
Rik Vanhoenacker This is a comparison between two electric pianos and people like me come here to make a decision on which one to get.
@@PianoGesang you're garbage.
I went to a music store in Toronto today to test both models since I’ve been debating over which one to buy for a while now. I tested both for the first time playing the same tune back to back and using a headphone provided by the store so the built-in speakers from the respective models don’t have anything to do with the differences of the sounds.
My observations:
I tested the FP30 first. At first, Roland’s key action (with that escapement) felt a little awkward (to me personally) so I decided to try the P115 instead. Indeed, the P115 felt more pleasant at first - but not for long! After a few minutes of playing the two instruments back and forth, the FP30 started to feel more natural and felt almost like a real acoustic piano. Also, at first, the FP30 sounded brighter while the P115 sounded a little sweeter (almost mellow). Then after after a few more minutes of playing, I’ve started to notice more obvious differences. The P115 sounds good from the middle keys up to the upper keys but I find the lower keys to be weaker compared to the FP30. On the other hand the FP 30 sounded more natural from the lower keys, middle and the higher keys. At this point, I was already leaning towards FP30.
I often play an acoustic grand piano (I’m not an expert player though) and during that comparison between the two models, I felt the Roland FP30’s key action felt closer to an acoustic piano than the P115’s.
Now the deciding factor came when I played an improvisation where I spontaneously decide how hard or soft would I press the keys. Hands down to the FP30!!! The keys and sound engine were so sensitive enough to capture subtle nuances. If I press the keys softly, Roland gives that natural soft and sweet acoustic piano sound in relation to the weight/degree of my pressing. The P115 however doesn’t feel as natural, it felt similar to playing a keyboard where you disable the touch sensitivity function. Of course it’s not as bad as that, but that is just to illustrate how I felt when I compared both models. In short, the FP-30 is more expressive. A big deciding factor for me.
Even though the P115 has more polyphony than the FP30, in the end, it really didn’t matter because the FP30 sounded much better and more natural than the P115. Again, based on my observation, I believe the reason why FP30 sounded more natural, is because of it’s ability to pick up subtle nuances in how hard or soft the keys are pressed.
So having said all that, it’s pretty obvious that I bought the Roland FP-30. Yay! I bought the white one with matching “wooden” stand and 3 pedals. Sadly, they didn’t have the white finish in stock so they have to order it from Roland and will have it delivered next week. Really excited now!
I'm not an expert player and this is my personal observation by the way. Just as a photographer, can take excellent pictures with a Nikon or a Canon camera, a musician will always make good music with either FP30 or P115. It just boils down to personal preference. I strongly suggest that you go to a store and try both models for yourself.
Dennis Fuentes thx man, i was looking for an honest review from a pianist. Im a newbie and i think im going for the fp30.
Thanks for the review. As a beginner I had the p115 in mind, but I love the sound of the fp30 much more! Especially when the man was playing from soft to loud, the fp30 sounded way detailed than the p115, which sounded fuzzier. I love Yamaha, but I think I will buy the Roland.
If you haven't accessed the P 115's touch control or the 18 layers of sound from a tight room to a concert hall, it is not fair to compare. The default on the P is different than the Roland, but once the touch and room features are adjusted, I felt all the dynamics and depth a concert grand would have. Just playing the default is not enough to make a decision. My P is going into the shop however, because three of the keys have a tinny sound, as if one string was out a hair on an acoustic. I like the fact it has a three year warranty.
How does the Roland hold up nowadays? Any problems with loose or rattling keys? Still satisfied with it?
You can make the sound on the Roland more mellow with the featured settings right?
I personally think (basing it on several videos) that the Roland seems to have a richer sound to my ears but I would like to have the option to mellow the sound a little bit if playing a certain type of song because the default sound seems somewhat tiring or overwhelming when going aggressive while the Yamaha seems underwhelming...
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Just sharing my experience here, I used to own an old Yamaha CLP-920, I sometimes play the CLP-170 and CLP-220 at school, then I switched to a Roland RP-301 a few years ago, and I'm currently using a Roland RD-800 as my main piano. I also own a Yamaha M1 upright and often play Yamaha's CVP-700 series at the store. One thing I can tell you after 17 years of playing both acoustic and digital pianos is that right now Roland has better keys than Yamaha across all their product range. Roland's old PHA-4 feels better and more realistic than even Yamaha's NW-GH found on their flagship Clavinova CVP-709, especially the feedback and escapement. Roland's new PHA-50 feels more refined and quieter than the PHA-4.
As for the sound, Roland pianos sound more raw and less sampled (each note of the piano sounds, on the RD-800 in this case, has distinct characteristics and you can even tune individual notes to your liking) as if the mic is positioned close to the strings and hammer, while Yamaha (I'm using the CVP-705 for comparison) sounds warm and it's as if you're listening to an already mixed playback, that's why it's more pleasing to the ear for some. Roland digital pianos have very wide dynamic range, so you really feel in control on how expressive you want to play (this video showcases that pretty well, it's not the piano's position that makes the Yamaha sounds muted, the Roland just has far greater dynamic range). The sound characteristics is up to preference, but since Roland combines sampling and physical modeling, it's easier to customize the sound to your exact needs. Some tuning parameters are accessible on Roland's lower-end models that only exist in Yamaha's higher-end models.
After trying Roland pianos, I never consider to look back at Yamaha digital pianos. Yamaha makes top quality acoustic pianos, but their digital pianos just don't cut it for me, I'd rather get a Kawai digital piano with Grand Feel II action. Kawai digital pianos have mostly similar characteristics as Yamaha digital pianos but with key action that's in a whole new level and actually feels like a real grand piano. I'm hoping to get a Kawai digital piano in the future if I have the budget, I was seriously blown away by their GFII action, but I picked Roland because I just love their piano sound and I feel like what they offer fits exactly what I need. I think their digital pianos are underrated, but that's me. I hope this somewhat helps you decide what to look for.
AWWWW. YOU HAVE LOTS OF PIANO. CAN YOU SEND ME ONE? HAHAHAHHAHAHA
This was very helpful. Thanks
This is just my honest opinion. For me, every time he comes back to the Roland it's like a relief to my ears. The Yamaha has a good sound but the Roland is like "oh my, rich & sweet." I tune pianos for a living am always sensitive to the quality of sound I am getting out of the pianos. As he plays the Roland it kinda feels to me like you are in a room with a good piano and George Winston is playing. The high end of the Yamaha seems a little harsh.
Could not agree more, the roland sounds way more subtle and rich at the same time!
I gotta disagree... It sounds like there's lots of attack with the Roland... The yamaha sounds softer on the ear... Its as if the yamaha is a solo instrument while the Roland is meant to be a part of a bigger set... Although... I would love the yamaha mid and high notes with the Roland bass end...
couldn't agree more. I feel it too. Its not that Yamaha is bad. Roland sounded like a big show is coming. Yamaha I need to wait for that rich feeling to come its just softer, but its not the kind when i listen to it i would like eww...
YES! Someone else with the same ears as me! I find the frequencies in other digital piano samples give me earache. Roland on the other hand is as you say "rich and sweet". That's why I bought the FP30 ;)
I'm a multi-instrumentalist, guitar, organ, and piano. I love how a '50's-'60's Gibson J45 dreadnaught acoustic guitar sings out with overtones fighting one another as much as meshing when I really hard-pick/strum wail on it, it sounds sweet, but _alive!_ . This is why I'd select the ROLAND FP30 over the Yamaha P-115. But I don't play that guitar style on piano. However the playing in this video falls into this category and the FP30 delivers! I like the tried and true warmth and all around great tone of the $650 KAWAI ES110 over the Yamaha P115 or the P125. I also prefer the KAWAI ES110 over the ROLAND FP30 _because_ I love classical/ baroque/ impressionism/1930's mellow standards primarily .
*_However_* , I really love the true grand piano action, the incredible fullness, warmth, and upper partials ringing out on the new *FP30X* , this upgraded and improved model really has me sold on it! And the *ROLAND FP30X* is only $50 more than the ROLAND FP30. If I could afford it I'd get the Yamaha P515. It's incredible, but $1,500. And if I had $1,500 I might as well get the ROLAND RP701. The RP701 is a full console with 3 pedals and excellent tone on every voice.
What a great demo! Thanks for taking the time to set this up!
this is the best sounds comparison video i've ever seen. thank you for uploading
Thank you for the excellent demonstration! I just bought the Yamaha, and I'm very pleased. I don't think you can go very far wrong between the Yamaha P115, Roland FP-30, and the Casio Privia... They're all quite good.
15:51 the difference is clear!
Victor Gomez which difference?
it is so clear!
Agree. Roland is the more natural piano in this real usage test
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Totally agree.
This is a very compare demo. It saves a lot of time spending in a store. Thanks for that.
Excellent comparison, it is clear that the Roland keyboard has a more pleasant sound.
Congratulations to the interpreter of the comparison, you are a great professional, with an impressive ease in your hands and fingers, I have really been impressed by your mastery.
Thank you very much for making this comparison.
Greetings from Spain.
Came to this video because i was thinking of buying a FP-30, but then got distracted by the music! Incredible playing! So beautiful!
The 'problem' with a Yamaha digital piano is that they sampled a Yamaha grand piano. Roland sampled a Steinway. In general a real Steinway sounds richer than a Yamaha grand piano. Particularly in the low-end.
MacXpert74 exactly the lower notes on the Roland are amazing
Who gives a fuck. Just play
Actually, Roland sound is not sampled, but using "supernatural" engine.
Should I get Yamaha P125 or Roland FP 30?
I really want to buy Roland based on many opinion that Roland has better key action,
but in my country Roland FP 30 come without wood stand and 3 pedal at the same price
@@sirAvdul in this price range ,is better to buy Roland FP_30 ,is better key action ,88 keys (PHA-4 Standard Keyboard: with Escapement and Ivory Feel)
, with SuperNATURAL Piano Sound
, String Resonance , Damper Resonance , Key Off Resonance , Bluetooth Ver 4.0
,....
Roland sounds richer, but yamaha sounds elegant. Different characters
The Yamaha sounds like a very well balanced synthesized piano, remarkably done across the 88 note range. The dynamics and harmonics are lackluster though. Roland's piano is much more lively and seems more sample based. The highest upper notes are very much like a real piano - possibly not as useful in performance as the Yamaha, but rarely called for in most music. The lower registers of the Roland are exceptional and I'm guessing the depth of the action allows much more harmonic expression. The Yamaha always has a similar bass tone, compressed and lacking in both the high and very low frequencies. In the Middle key range both keyboards work well, the Yamaha will probably cut through a mix of live instruments better but in solo listening I'd rather have the Roland's more dynamic tonality. A++ demo very well played selections.
Doskonałe porównanie, jasne jest, że klawiatura Roland ma przyjemniejszy dźwięk.
Gratulacje dla tłumacza porównania, jesteś świetnym profesjonalistą, z imponującą łatwością w dłoniach i palcach, naprawdę byłem pod wrażeniem twojej biegłości.
Dziękuję bardzo za dokonanie tego porównania.
Pozdrowienia z Hiszpanii.
Thank you very much - great comparison!!
Thanks for this awesome demo! Love it! Getting the Roland FP-30 tomorrow! Thanks!
Dynamic Range (Fortissimo to Pianissimo) is much better on the FP 30. One can hear it very clearly from 14:20.
It is because of Yamaha has only 6 watts amplifier against 11 watts on Roland.
Олег Бахарев This sound from this video is recorded from the line ooutputs lol not the speakers
Sorry guys i Have a little question.
I Read roland ha just hearphone exit. Is It possibile ti connect with ampli also? I need It for live musiv
@@OlegBakharev Incorrect. The Roland has more sensors and expression levels than the Yamaha. Do your research.
@@haziee3108 which one d'you think is better and why?
this was a great comparison and well played - thank you!
I love the song you play, can't stop listening to this video! This video also helped me pretty well by the choice I have to make. Totally love the Roland Sound!
I bought Roland FP-30 a month ago and it has an amazing sound. I recommoned that piano. The touch of the keyboard is amazing too! Roland has a very deep and rich sound.
Hi. Has the keys given you any problems? I heard they become clanky after a while
Amazing demo, thank you!
Top quality comparison! Thank you very much. :)
Beautiful playing guy.
+michael costello THX
Radek Barczak I have seen lot of your videos at e-muzyk. I am very happy with English subtitles, i would ask you to include what amplifiers or studio monitors you use in each demo. it always sounds great, so I would like to know for buying the keyboard & amplified speakers. thanks
Wow thank You! NOW I see the difference and will definitely but the best of those to.
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Thanks for making this - very useful!
I own a FP30 for 1 year now ! With earphone plug into the sound is deep and awesome. I will make the same choice today if I had to. it's an amazing piano.
Hi. Has it given you any problems thus far? Say for example clanky keys?
And how easy is it to record for a RUclips and Facebook live?
Thanks for your video. I came across a 2nd hand P115 with the stand and pedals and this video clinched the deal. I think the Roland is great too, but it sounded a bit EQ’d for me, while the P115 has a natural tone. And this vid was the lighter of the grand piano voices.
Best video comparing both. I ordered the FP 30 right after watching this.
The Roland's EQ in the lower octaves has a boomy quality that perhaps cuts through a mix, but doesn't sound anything like a real piano. The Yamaha sounds like much more authentic. If I want that bass-heavy Roland-y sound, I can tweak the EQ myself. Also, the Yamaha has a "sound boost" feature that's designed specifically for ensemble playing for rock/country/pop, etc.
Or, if you want the more natural responding piano and don't like the bass-heavy sound, you can go with the Roland and EQ the bass-end to be a little lighter. This is what I will do.
Best sound comparison video ever! When looking at the video, I detected only a slight difference between the Yamaha & Roland grand piano sounds. Yamaha sounds a bit brighter. When I wasn't looking at the video, I literally couldn't detect a difference. Thank you, sir.
Of course Roland has richer sound but it's too bright. I think it's suitable as a rock or dance piano. Yamaha seems more realistic and natural, so it's probably suitable for classic and jazz.
Michael Souhoka you can adjust the brightness and ambience on the Roland
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Nickolas Schieber
Really? So if i want to play something calm and quiet, will the roland provide these playing?
@@showdown2613 yes
Yamaha P115 has 3 piano variants: Grand Piano, Mellow Piano and Bright Piano. Honestly, in this video I thought the FP-30 sounded less bright than the Yamaha P115. FP-30 I think is a bit more mellow, which I enjoy. The Yamaha P115 does sound like it has more depth to it though, or at least on the sound settings he put them on.
I myself have the P115 and think it sounds great, though it doesn't compare to a dedicated VST running on the computer.
Claps .. for the free performance and demo of the 176 Keys rig .. Awesome .. I like the fact that these keyboards are curved like a TV .. could see the keys better!
Many thanks for this awesome comparison.
Awesome playing!
Roland's dynamic range is MUCH greater. Very expressive instrument.
Is the sound on the video recored from the output of the pianos (line-out or headphones) or is it recorded with a microphone from their own built-in speakers??
I think it's the first but I want to know for sure. You write something at the start of the video but unfortunately I cannot read Polish ;-)) Thanks in advance!
Most helpful. Thank you, kind Sir.
Great comparison, thanks alot!
Thank you for this comparison. For my ears, Roland sounds fuller, although more metallic. Waiting for my fp 30 to arrive right now. Your video helped me a lot.
I did some time as assistant sound engineer for a 400-seat performance space and after watching this a few times I see: The P-115's sound is "sculpted" and thus would mix well in a multiple instrument setting, whereas the FP-30 sounds more raw and would be better suited for solo settings e.g. recitals. That said the FP-30 could work well in a multiple instrument setting too, but the live mix / studio mix would take a little more work. From the point of view of a piano player myself, I would buy both and use each according to different situations (though I don't have that kind of a budget :) )
Radku, czy jest szansa na porównanie FP-30 vs ES100? Byłoby bardzo przydatne i pewnie szeroko omawiane na nie jednym forum.
To put this into supercars comparison logic, it is like comparing ferrari and lambo. Yamaha is the ferrari. If you know how ferrari sounds like, it roars. Whereas lambo being the roland, grunts instead of roar. While the grunting sound of lambo is magnificent, some prefer ferrari's music to the ears. Both magnificent but not the same. Boils down to preference. Just my comparison since I love both supercars and pianos. In no way am I professional. Just a humble opinion.
Not really
Any FIAT??
Yess V12s!
i prefer the Mosler mt900. you can drive it year round and change the oil yourself! you can rough her up and she loves it. and she be beautiful!
Muito lindo! Instrumentos maravilhosos!Gostaria de aprender a tocar piano e violino.
Hard to tell at first, but Roland wins out in the end. It sounds like a live piano, whereas the Yamaha sounds like a recorded live piano to me.
Agree..
This is the way to make this type of video. Thank you! 😃
Bought the FP-30! It'll be at home in two days!! What really made the difference for me was the key action and feel of it. Didn't really like the yamaha's action when I played it even though I was sure I wanted the p115 in the first place. But then the salesman comes to me and says I should try the FP-30... and whoa fell in love
The lower end notes on the Roland FP 30 are amazing. Was going to get a Yamaha P-155, but the Roland seemes like a better choice.
This is the real review!!!! Thanks!
I had the decision between those 2 pianos couple of weeks ago. Tested both in the music store for a while and for me as a beginner it feels like a huge difference between the quality of the keyboards. The Roland FP-30 is miles ahead of the Yamaha. Sound and everything else is fine on both i think, more of a matter of taste, but hell is the keyboard better on the FP-30. I am very happy that i tried out both before i decided.
This is a lot of sound vs sound, but I'm looking for info about feel and responsiveness of the keybeds. Can anyone speak to how these two go head to head if I were using them solely for the midi?
I like the yamaha's darker sounding base. The Roland's base is also thunderous but on the brighter side. I prefer the darker growl of yamaha's base. It matches my soul.
I read many comments but this one is the best.
is it because of the angle...
why l feel like roland fp-30 is smaller?
I just bought a fp-30 but it doesn´t have the bluethoot option, where its suppose to be the bluethoot logo instead it say twin piano, why?
Love the roland piano sounds but one thing...Can the roland be used for live performing? I heard that this piano doestn have line in/out to connect with external speakers?
Came for the comparison, stayed for the music.
Please make the same thing with yamaha p115 and p125 i want to know if the sound have changed.
Why does the Roland sound so much brighter/richer? Is the mic a different quality that is recording it or something?
Muchas gracias, buen trabajo y una agran ayuda. hasta pronto !!
Excellent video, thank you for posting. Rowland it is (blue tooth)
Who can tell me what is the song name on 6:00 in this video?
Are Roland's speakers good on the FP-30? (is it okay if they are below the piano?)
Moro em Fortaleza, tenho um Piano Digital P - 115 que ganhei de meu sogro mas como estava sem uso não está funcionando. Terá conserto?
please, which one needs harder action on keyboard? I tried P115 and it felt as softest among others, good for me; an dis some difference on Roland RD-64 (some strings feedback emulation - or only marketing tricks?) tnx
can someone please tell me the name of the song that played at 0.52 ?
Very helpful. I thank you.
did the fp 30 have the touch of a grand piano ? if we don't press highter the sound is grow down ? and if we press it strongly the sound is more highter ?
Yamaha sounds more as a realistic baby piano grand, good low-mids, and hammer sounds .....roland is brighter and much sub-low responsive, but sounds like a "pop music" piano sound. I'd prefered yamaha at all.
What on earth is a baby piano? Don't make up stuff as u go along
@@siphondhlovu1153 baby grand
@@siphondhlovu1153 nice one pal silly boy, I baby grand is a real type of piano, silly boy you are!
this video makes me choose one. i was really considering between fp30 and p115 and at the moment i couldnt go to shop to check it out. im gonna buy fp-30 right now. thanks for video.
+NAHYUN HONG (Liah) Same here. Did you already buy? Its really hard to choose between these two. For me i prefer yamaha. Let me know your experience with roland.
after watching lots of videos on the two and reading lots of reviews, I think based on the majority of comments here, I've decided to go with the FP-30 :)
***** hey i just checked ur comment. i bought FP-30 at that moment, and playing almost everyday. actually im classic pianist, and just need one for practice at home keep silent, roland is much more awesome than i expected. it sound better when you are wear ur headphone(i use Sony MDR-7506) i also preferred Yamaha at all. but you should also try Roland. i can say that fp-30's key board and touch sense is way more better than Yamaha. :)
+NAHYUN HONG (Liah) thanks for the advice. I'm a newbie. I'm agree with u with the touch sense. Ivory ;) thanks also for the headphone suggestion. I just ordered the yamaha last week ago.
Hello Liah,
How you ever consider Kawai ES100? Why not?
Just plan to buy as a gift for young family member. TIA
Thank you for this demo. Think this helped the FP-30 win me over the Kawai es110. No comparison between the Yamaha and the Roland. The Rowland is way richer to my ear! That “supernatural technology” seems to actually be more than a marketing gimmick!! Thanks again!
May I know where are the speakers located for the roland fp30?
Witam
Chciałbym się dowiedzieć czy dźwięk z Roland FP-30 został nagrany w sposób: jack stereo ->> 2x jack mono?
Prosiłbym o odpowiedź na to pytanie. Z góry dziękuję!
Anyone know what's the name for first 2 songs?
How does Roland FP30 compare to Kawai ES110 ?
Очень очень круто!!! Один из лучших обзоров в мире! Очень понравилось сравнение долготы звучания. У меня получилось где-то 19 секунд P-125 и 23 секунды у FP-30. Спасибо огромное за такое яркое демонстрирование того, что у FP-30 более чувствительная клавиатура к силе и резкости нажатия, это прям заметно на сравнениях, P-125 звучит во время изменения силы нажатия менее восприимчиво и не настолько гибко изменяет выразительность звучания, в отличии от FP-30 который кажется прям идеально имитирует акустическую клавиатуру и механику молоточков. Меня расстроило что в P-125 нет аккордеона и гитары и это еще один минус Yamaha и огромный плюс Roland.
That is how to compare.
Alright, well done bro.
I subscribed.😊
A phenomenal musician....
are the amplifier both the same brand and volume for both keyboard?
what is the song name at 1:20???
Guys please it’s urgent wich piano should I get fp30 or Yamaha p115 it’s only for classical pieces like chopin nocturnes and valses and Beethoven
What is the song at the first minute mark? I want to say I recognize it but I am not sure.
Cóż to za utwór na samym początku? Jest świetny, czy są do tego nuty?
To me the FP-30 sounds more fullbodied and richer. However, some people complain about it being a bit "metallic", but I found the P-115 to be a bit "thin". I have to choose between them and it's so difficult!! Which one has the best key action? I mean, the one most similar to an acoustic piano.
iseeu1980 As a long time yamaha user, I recommend Roland. Yamaha dynamics are very narrow and frustrating. Almost toyish. Many pop players wanabe will disagree.
I had a yamaha p120 that sounded amazing...very good dynamics...the harder you hit the keys, it not only increased volume and brightness obviously, but it sounded like the keys and tones were getting 'agitated'...as it should on a real piano. It seems the Roland wins this time with that aspect. My yamaha p120 is no longer, as i've tried to replace a key, and it went south rather quickly. Some keys started sticking (has Yamaha fixed this issue??)
I'm a big Roland AND Yamaha fan btw. I know it's all about the piano sounds 95% of the time, but the Rhodes sound on the yamaha is better IMO. Much more dynamic. The Roland Rhodes has less expression...sounds like hard tines all the time, whereas the yamaha has a smooth to hard bite dynamic range. Wurli on both sounds pretty good though.
One thing I noticed on my recently dead yamaha p120, is that when you layered the piano with strings, the strings wouldn't sustain the entire time, but kind of fade out if holding a long chord with the sustain pedal, which I loved actually....does the Roland treat the strings the same way?
Yamaha dinamics are narrow and frustrating? you're an IDIOT. this fp 30 sounds like CRAP are you fucking deaf? metallic sounds NOTHING LIKE A BALANCED PIANO. you're stupid. and I'm saying that despite the fact that i just ordered the fp 90 but that is completely other class.
ok LOL
Which song is it around 2:00 ?
anyone know what song is he playing at 3:45?
What's the piece you're playing at 3:55?
Anyone know what are the songs he playing over here?
Hey what's the song at 5:00 ? sounds amazing and great comparison!
what song is that at 4 minutes???
Какую песню вы играете за 4 минуты?
I always start playing this video at 03:43 learning exactly what he played on the FP30, sounds much better! Love it!
Armz73 6:00
Very great demo! Thanks! I had been looking at buying the Yamaha P115, but this might have changed my mind! The Roland, to me, just sounds a bit more "real"...I can almost hear the "ivory and wood" knocking, especially on the upper keys. Did you get that sense also? The Roland also sounds just a bit more full, or like a bigger piano.
I think the Roland also has some better connectivity features, right? Which would you choose, the Yamaha or the Roland??
ben. frost that's the sound of a worn stand up piano you'd find in saloon. the yamaha is a perfect grand.
Thanks for this video. I got the Roland FP-30. Been a yamaha user before and I must say they are good but hammer action and response got the winning technology with Roland compared to the yamaha.
Słychać dużą różnicę. Roland ma głębsze brzmienie, wydaje się lepszym instrumentem. Czy rodzaj zastosowanego wyjścia ma wpływ na to co można było usłyszeć na filmie? Chcę kupić pianino dla syna i Roland wydaje się lepszy pod wieloma względami. Świetne porównanie. Dziękuję :)
I bought the fp30 5 months ago after comparing the keybed to the kawai es110 and some yamahas because it had the most weighted keys. Heavier than my upright piano but the other digital pianos were far more lighter than my piano so the fp30 seemed to me the closest to a piano. What a surprise today... at the same store with the same model i put my fingers on the fp30 and the keys were way lighter than mine! A close friend used to play my fp30 was at the store and i havnt said anything to him except to play something and at the first stroke to a key he noticed the change too. Im now looking for an answer. Maybe roland has changed the weight of the keys because people were complaining about the fp30 being too hard to press i remember. But i want to contrast if people with older fp30 feel the keys as heavy as me. The yamaha (p45 or the newer one maybe) today had heavier keys than the fp30 at the store. But my fp is heavier than the yamaha. The new fp30 was easier to play but I prefer the feel of mine... but im very surprised and looking for an explanation. Two items of the same model cant be so different if it isnt a design thing... could someone who has tried kawai roland and yamaha answer which one has the heavier keys?
I just ordered a Roland FP-30 because it just sounds brighter than any other keyboard in its class. Mt Steinway just gave up the ghost (cracked and deformed sound board) - Can't complain, it was 100 years old. I searched all the high end digital pianos and came to the conclusion that for pure piano sound there is no need to go above the FP-30. I can't wait for it to come!
FP30 of course! more realist more enhanced (yamaha always too bright but I love the CFIIIS and CFX). Thanks, a good test to compare piano sound.
So wich is better the Yamaha or the Roland? And wich schould i buy?
Yamha nos traz um som mais seco e clássico...roland nos traz un som mais refinado e detalhista....very much roland
I own an FP-30 and my music teacher's practise piano is a P-115. The Roland keys have a little more resistance at the top while the Yamaha keys want to spring back more . The Roland keys are a little noisier. I prefer the sound of the Roland provided you don't use the built in speakers that add an unwanted stuffed pillow to the audio. The Yamaha sounds brighter and more synthetic to me. The Yamaha speakers are much better. Only through good headphones or a separate amp are the pianos as you hear them here. The Roland has more sounds including three pianos. The sustain on the Roland's default piano is less than the Yamaha's. If you get the proper stand and pedals for both; the Roland ones look like proper metal and have a nicer feel while Yamaha's are plastic but seem more robust. The grade of plastic that the Yamaha body is made of looks more solid too. Usually the Yamaha is slightly more expensive but special deals might make either much cheaper (as I write this the Yamaha is widely on offer at about 25% off.) I find it's like buying a car, your first one gets under your skin and breeds brand loyalty. Either would be a great learning tool.