People giving Chris Gehringer shit about doing almost nothing to the mix are missing the point of what mastering is supposed to be. I'm paying my mastering engineer to do quality assurance. There's a lot that can be done in mastering these days to save a bad mix, but that should not be the default. I actually find it very impressive to see a mastering engineer restrain himself from changing a mix by much. I don't think I could pull that off.
@@bjarnyg It can be raised a few levels actually, to kinda hit the general potential of the song, often if its a bad mix its also often a questionable constructed song etc. Not often you hear a well made song and production with a bad mix really.
50 Cent: Thug Love (1999) AJR: Neotheater (2019) Avril Lavigne Love Sux (2022) Cardi B: Be Careful (2018) Chiiild: Synthetic Soul (2020) Chromeo: Head over Heels (2018) Demi Lovato: Tell Me You Love Me (2017) Drake: Thank Me Later (2010) Dua Lipa: Future Nostalgia (2019) Harry Styles: Harry Styles (2017) Janelle Monáe: Dirty Computer (2018) Jason Mraz: We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. (2008) Lady Gaga: Born This Way (2011) Lana Del Rey: Norman Fucking Rockwell! (2019) Leon Bridges: Good Thing (2018) Lil Tecca: We Love You Tecca (2019) Lizzo: Cuz I Love You (2019) Mike Posner: Keep Going (2019) Nas: The Lost Tapes 2 (2019) Nas: Stillmatic (2001) Naughty by Nature: Naughty by Nature (1991) Original soundtrack: Boomerang (1992) Rihanna: Anti (2016) Rihanna: Loud (2010) Rihanna: Unapologetic (2012) Selena Gomez: Rare (2020) Shaggy: Hot Shot (2000) St. Vincent: Masseduction (2017) Twenty One Pilots: Trench (2018) Wu-Tang Clan: Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993) Edyta Gorniak: Your High (2014) DO THIS guys, then talk.
I'm always so impressed how they know exactly how much or how little to do. I do wish mix with the masters did shitty recordings and mediocre productions/mixes since that's more what someone like me would be dealing with (as a hobbyist).
Exactly, all the videos on this channel and most mixing and mastering videos on RUclips are geared toward people with a studio, people with a lot of gear, or just straight up, aspiring audio engineers with loads and loads and LOADS of money to spend on gear. I really wish that there were more videos about mixing songs in the box recorded with shitty budget equipment (usb mic, no preamp, no hardware, no girlfriend, no house, no money, etc) because that’s the situation that 90% of people that watch audio engineering videos on RUclips are in. That’s just how it is. It’s unfortunate mate
if you're into rock/metal at all, you should sign up for URM Academy. They host Nail The Mix each month, plus a regular segment called "Mix Rescue" where major label guys take DIY DAW sessions and go through it step by step to fix and improve the whole thing. It's great
Videos like this where there’s minimal processing you need to pick up on things like levels, where he has his DBs, there’s a loudness war and its interesting to see where he’s got his levels.
Always nice to see other mastering engineers processes and decisions. Kind of surprising that 2 or 3 dBs of limiting isn't a lot to Chris---but that just goes to show you the subjective nature of mastering. If it sounds good, its not too much. Lol.
I've worked professionally as a mix engineer for 10+ years and it seems to be true. And I think its just because mastering engineers usually work alone and wear just normal comfortable clothes.
His “a little” bit of limiting is definitely more than I typically go for but in the pop world if you’re not smashing the dynamic life out of the song then it’s considered light limiting.
Not quite: he gets payed to listen to the track and with all his experience in his craft make the decision needed for the song. In this case an unexperienced mastering engineer could have process until taken the living soul out of the mix and he didn’t.
@@gerardporqueres6989 What's the point if no one can tell if he was involved or not? Mastering is kind of irrelevant in the age of singles and streaming.
@@johansugarev I disagree, translation is the key. My mixes sound very close to the final master when I am listening in my mixing room and that’s the way I intended it, I don’t want a mastering engineer to reinvent my mix and as a mixer I don’t want to reinvent the producers sounds if a good producer or engineer was involved in the recording but my mixes will sound closer to what I recognise as my mix in many different mediums and rooms if a good mastering engineer did his job, and I have empirically and blind tested this hypothesis many times, and will continue to do so, the day it becomes irrelevant for me I sure will stop using it as anything else in my job.
@@awesomematthews1238 Its an indirect advertising of plugins. There are tons of free plugins which do the job but all they use in these videos are expensive plugins. Most people will think…oww, professionals use these plugins so I have to buy these as well! 😂
This channel is becoming a joke to be honest. The truth is these engineers mixing and mastering alike are using analog gear and multiple people to produce these records . Ima keep it a buck and say that 90% of you won’t reach this sound with a laptop and Apollo . It’s impossible. I’d just focus on making good music overall and good beats if you’re a producer. When you get some buzz to get these resources then let them do the work . Just some free game for people who are like me who actually wanna be at this level but can’t wrap their head around what’s different .
In recording for sure, but in mixing and mastering, i think there is no problem in the box, recalls etc. Good room treatment, good ears, talent, experience are necessary, i think. Ok, from my unprofessional point of view. Think of Serban Ghenea, Andrew Scheps.
Full video available exclusively on mwtm.org/cg-various
People giving Chris Gehringer shit about doing almost nothing to the mix are missing the point of what mastering is supposed to be. I'm paying my mastering engineer to do quality assurance. There's a lot that can be done in mastering these days to save a bad mix, but that should not be the default.
I actually find it very impressive to see a mastering engineer restrain himself from changing a mix by much. I don't think I could pull that off.
i don't think any mastering can save a bad mix.
@@bjarnyg It can be raised a few levels actually, to kinda hit the general potential of the song, often if its a bad mix its also often a questionable constructed song etc. Not often you hear a well made song and production with a bad mix really.
50 Cent: Thug Love (1999)
AJR: Neotheater (2019)
Avril Lavigne Love Sux (2022)
Cardi B: Be Careful (2018)
Chiiild: Synthetic Soul (2020)
Chromeo: Head over Heels (2018)
Demi Lovato: Tell Me You Love Me (2017)
Drake: Thank Me Later (2010)
Dua Lipa: Future Nostalgia (2019)
Harry Styles: Harry Styles (2017)
Janelle Monáe: Dirty Computer (2018)
Jason Mraz: We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. (2008)
Lady Gaga: Born This Way (2011)
Lana Del Rey: Norman Fucking Rockwell! (2019)
Leon Bridges: Good Thing (2018)
Lil Tecca: We Love You Tecca (2019)
Lizzo: Cuz I Love You (2019)
Mike Posner: Keep Going (2019)
Nas: The Lost Tapes 2 (2019)
Nas: Stillmatic (2001)
Naughty by Nature: Naughty by Nature (1991)
Original soundtrack: Boomerang (1992)
Rihanna: Anti (2016)
Rihanna: Loud (2010)
Rihanna: Unapologetic (2012)
Selena Gomez: Rare (2020)
Shaggy: Hot Shot (2000)
St. Vincent: Masseduction (2017)
Twenty One Pilots: Trench (2018)
Wu-Tang Clan: Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
Edyta Gorniak: Your High (2014)
DO THIS guys, then talk.
Impressive resume!
That vocal tone Spike got... Everything Spike and his team mixes is amazing.
I'm always so impressed how they know exactly how much or how little to do. I do wish mix with the masters did shitty recordings and mediocre productions/mixes since that's more what someone like me would be dealing with (as a hobbyist).
Exactly, all the videos on this channel and most mixing and mastering videos on RUclips are geared toward people with a studio, people with a lot of gear, or just straight up, aspiring audio engineers with loads and loads and LOADS of money to spend on gear. I really wish that there were more videos about mixing songs in the box recorded with shitty budget equipment (usb mic, no preamp, no hardware, no girlfriend, no house, no money, etc) because that’s the situation that 90% of people that watch audio engineering videos on RUclips are in. That’s just how it is. It’s unfortunate mate
if you're into rock/metal at all, you should sign up for URM Academy. They host Nail The Mix each month, plus a regular segment called "Mix Rescue" where major label guys take DIY DAW sessions and go through it step by step to fix and improve the whole thing. It's great
Thanks to Spike and you Chris for helping me with the production!
Chris is the man 🔥
Dude is a legend and you disregard sound. No cheat code for the "Ear".
Videos like this where there’s minimal processing you need to pick up on things like levels, where he has his DBs, there’s a loudness war and its interesting to see where he’s got his levels.
Excellent job Chris
Chris is the best!
Came here from a Fabvl video lol. Great stuff man
What DAW is he using
Sequoia?
Samplitude
Always nice to see other mastering engineers processes and decisions. Kind of surprising that 2 or 3 dBs of limiting isn't a lot to Chris---but that just goes to show you the subjective nature of mastering. If it sounds good, its not too much. Lol.
Great job
Is it me or do mastering engineers dress less colorfully than mixing engineers?
No, u r onto something even i've noticed it lol..
@@Pranav9977 Must be the job itself lol, there's less audio artistry and more 3Cs: cleaning, clearing and clarifying
@@ScoreHeroMusic at this point if i see my mastering engineer wearing some colorful eclectic clothes i would get another one 😂
@@Pranav9977 Agreed, it would be like hiring a bodyguard that shows up in a Hawaiian Shirt and skinny jeans
I've worked professionally as a mix engineer for 10+ years and it seems to be true. And I think its just because mastering engineers usually work alone and wear just normal comfortable clothes.
His “a little” bit of limiting is definitely more than I typically go for but in the pop world if you’re not smashing the dynamic life out of the song then it’s considered light limiting.
It's weird that he uses the 'default' setting on the limiter. Why not flick through all the great presets? Default is pretty bland....
It's because no one uses presets to master, if changing a parameter is knowing what you're doing, you don't put a preset.
I wanna know how much he charged for this😂
100k/day
You have to watch the entire video on MWTM to find out. This is a short clip that was taken from a 2 hours tutorial 😅
I want a job thats as easy as his job lol
Easy to do hard to master, like he said you can piss people off and they won't want to work with you
Probably getting paid 10k to put an L2 on the track
200$ per single, at most 3-4K dollars for an entire album that was mastered throughout the day, nothing more. Yup that's the Sterling Sound rate
He gets payed to make a track two db louder with a limiter?
Not quite: he gets payed to listen to the track and with all his experience in his craft make the decision needed for the song. In this case an unexperienced mastering engineer could have process until taken the living soul out of the mix and he didn’t.
@@gerardporqueres6989 exactly
@@gerardporqueres6989 What's the point if no one can tell if he was involved or not? Mastering is kind of irrelevant in the age of singles and streaming.
@@johansugarev I disagree, translation is the key. My mixes sound very close to the final master when I am listening in my mixing room and that’s the way I intended it, I don’t want a mastering engineer to reinvent my mix and as a mixer I don’t want to reinvent the producers sounds if a good producer or engineer was involved in the recording but my mixes will sound closer to what I recognise as my mix in many different mediums and rooms if a good mastering engineer did his job, and I have empirically and blind tested this hypothesis many times, and will continue to do so, the day it becomes irrelevant for me I sure will stop using it as anything else in my job.
@@bergpdx ?
EQ and limiter. 99% of the time.
Barely hear any difference to be honest.
I would suggest Ear bud headphones or in the car, I could tell the subtles he was pointing out tho
In some cases, less is more. Not every move needs to sound obvious. But with good monitoring and experience you should be able to hear the difference.
All those sibilants and those peaks on 10k left out?? Mmmm i would not call this mastering
@Skybxrn points of view…
its part of the Lorde sound...
Wasted 5 minutes of my life…
He didn’t use any analog gear.
@@almo6097 It’s been recorded with analog gear.
He's like, "I pretty much did nothing"
@@awesomematthews1238 Its an indirect advertising of plugins. There are tons of free plugins which do the job but all they use in these videos are expensive plugins. Most people will think…oww, professionals use these plugins so I have to buy these as well! 😂
Good thing time is timeless and you can switch tracks
Ahahaha 😂😂😂😂 FFP limiter and 0,0000001 Db plus bass in Fab Eq.
$2500 Please
I think it's money for knowing it what the tract needed.. 😁
@@abhidmusic1884 yes man, you r right
You pay for "trust" lol, you know what sound that mastering engineer can bring to your sound to get it radio ready and to blend with other records
he actually charges $225, mastering isn't supposed to be rocket science
Soooooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr paaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Is that Noisia’s studio?
Sterling I think...
Amateurs on comentary, what is a master foi you?😅😅😅😅
This channel is becoming a joke to be honest. The truth is these engineers mixing and mastering alike are using analog gear and multiple people to produce these records . Ima keep it a buck and say that 90% of you won’t reach this sound with a laptop and Apollo . It’s impossible. I’d just focus on making good music overall and good beats if you’re a producer. When you get some buzz to get these resources then let them do the work . Just some free game for people who are like me who actually wanna be at this level but can’t wrap their head around what’s different .
In recording for sure, but in mixing and mastering, i think there is no problem in the box, recalls etc. Good room treatment, good ears, talent, experience are necessary, i think. Ok, from my unprofessional point of view. Think of Serban Ghenea, Andrew Scheps.