PROFESSIONAL MASTERING vs. INSTANT MASTERING

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @ad7or
    @ad7or 2 года назад +253

    I can only express my gratitude to both Wytse and George. I’m truly humbled by your kindness and support.
    Sound engineering is an artform, both you and George showcased that in this video. The connection between the human mind and analog gear can produce wonderful results.
    Especially when the engineer can trust their own ability to enrich the music.
    “Don’t ever lose sight of your love of music”- Bruce Swedien
    I would also like to thank everyone that will, have and continue to give “Funk Heven” a chance. Your support is very much appreciated.

    • @adirsab
      @adirsab 2 года назад +5

      very cool track

    • @johnisrael5183
      @johnisrael5183 2 года назад +3

      Really good song, I just mastered my first pre master mix through Analog Rack with Studio One's Pipline Feature on Export....and then used Landr against it...mine blew it away, His friend the master engieneer did the same thing...LOL....online mastering just sucks all the life out of your song...bad Idea....spend $5000 to $8000 on your own studio....its worth it...even if your start with Dbx compressor, BBE maxizer, mackie mixer, SSL 2+ and good headphones.....thats about $1100 and you can start making your own masters with Pro Tools or Studio one....

    • @joshsmith7812
      @joshsmith7812 2 года назад +7

      Never mind the analog gear, that’s just extra gravy ontop, it’s the engineers ear and knowledge before anything else is even considered

    • @1disturbedjunglist
      @1disturbedjunglist 2 года назад +2

      Lovely 80's MJ vibe on this track.

    • @davewestner
      @davewestner 2 года назад +1

      Cool tune....thanks for letting us hear it

  • @Kkidzz
    @Kkidzz 2 года назад +34

    George's AIR/SPARKLE and PRESENCE is amaaaaaaaazing.

  • @goseason2343
    @goseason2343 2 года назад +56

    This video was needed for the music community. Nothing can replace a human being mastering your music.

  • @likenokevin
    @likenokevin 2 года назад +18

    George's master sounded so good. It is almost 3D!

  • @ephjaymusic
    @ephjaymusic 2 года назад +54

    And that is why we need human mastering engineers like George. This was a fantastic video and excellent comparison! Thank you so much!

  • @Andre_Kolodziej
    @Andre_Kolodziej 2 года назад

    Danke!

  • @dwightdeon2421
    @dwightdeon2421 2 года назад +124

    I've sat in on a lot of mastering sessions, had a lot of songs mastered (by some well known ME) and this was above and beyond anything i ever seen come out of a final master. He actually improved the mix far beyond just making it brighter and louder, which seems to be the norm these days. Very disappointing to have something mastered, and when it comes back it doesn't sound BETTER than the mix just different. George nailed it. Well done

    • @mickeythompson9537
      @mickeythompson9537 2 года назад +8

      "Very disappointing to have something mastered, and when it comes back it doesn't sound BETTER than the mix just different."
      SO TRUE!!

    • @LukeLjJames
      @LukeLjJames 2 года назад +3

      Hmm mastering done without askin you what ya aiming for , like the sound of . No 1st draft , 2 nd draft checks before the final result making sure your on board and happy ? Not sure what mastering places you been too but 100% go somewhere else lol ;p

    • @muzk8887
      @muzk8887 2 года назад +1

      ive seen a lot of art but only some of it is good

    • @LukeLjJames
      @LukeLjJames 2 года назад

      @@muzk8887 I saw a pelican try to eat a pigeon once 🤣🤣

    • @LarryElectronica
      @LarryElectronica 2 года назад +4

      Mastering should not make your mix sound better, it should exaggerate all the strengths of your mix. And subsequently, it can highlight the weaknesses of your mix. As far as cosmetic 'treatments' go, that is a choice made by the engineer at the artist's discretion.

  • @NeverduskX
    @NeverduskX 2 года назад +12

    I don't think I've ever fully appreciated mastering as much as it deserves to be before watching George work. Hearing all of those changes in real-time was magic.

  • @Casur1N
    @Casur1N 2 года назад +74

    Instant Mastering services and Mastering Engineers are like buying a suit in the fashion area of a supermarket and in a tailor shop. Both may work for someone but when you compare them you can see which is specifically made at the right fit

    • @listenfidi
      @listenfidi 2 года назад +3

      nice analogy!

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com 2 года назад +3

      yep

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv 2 года назад +5

      sure, but it won’t be long before AI mastering becomes indistinguishable from the work of humans

    • @oldschooljohnny
      @oldschooljohnny 2 года назад

      100!

    • @delmixedit
      @delmixedit 2 года назад

      One of the best analogies ever!!!!! ✊🏾

  • @fadamusik
    @fadamusik 2 года назад

    ¡Gracias!

  • @AGDugros
    @AGDugros 2 года назад +41

    Audio mastering is an art, I work in music production since 2002, and I can tell that the experience is one important factor. Thanks for this video.

    • @nepntzerZer
      @nepntzerZer 2 года назад +1

      ok try doing mastering and mix engineering while living out of a tent.

  • @-IFFTI-
    @-IFFTI- 2 года назад +28

    Automatic mastering systems usually do not understand "musicality", algorithms are not able to add breath and life. The human ear and brain are still the best tool for this. Therefore, it is good to find a mastering specialist who has his own approach to the music styles we are interested in. I have some material in my collection that has been mastered by people who don't understand certain nuances. The effects were disappointing.
    George, a big thank you for the show of the possibilities and the excellent job ... and for fighting with the "sound botulism" ;).
    Dear Wytse ... in my opinion, this is one of your the best episodes on YT. :) MORE! :D

  • @garrettjrussell
    @garrettjrussell 2 года назад +11

    This is definitely one of your best videos of all time. I know you did something like this about 3 years ago, but the they way George goes into major detail about the mastering process was beyond fascinating and informative. A huge thank you for the effort you put into this.

  • @johnc.4625
    @johnc.4625 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @AlexReidStudios
    @AlexReidStudios 2 года назад

    I don't care about the comparison, this is one of my go to guides on mastering mindset. George is a gift

  • @Genolexis
    @Genolexis 2 года назад

    Aha! Got George dancing at 20mins! Mission Accomplished 🤣 Great video, truly enjoyed every minute. Entertaining and very informative. Thank you

  • @LordTheeProducer
    @LordTheeProducer 2 года назад +14

    I love this video!!! George is cool as hell and you guys have beautiful chemistry captured on this video

  • @storkontheroof
    @storkontheroof 2 года назад +19

    The difference indeed is ENORMOUS!
    What i would love to see/hear now, is George making a master with (hi-quality) plugins only and compare that to the analog version he did.
    Any chance on that one???

  • @annekedebruyn7797
    @annekedebruyn7797 2 года назад +60

    I like how George's mix was wider but in a very balanced way.
    The other mastering services didn't really added much in the wideness.

    • @ayeapprove
      @ayeapprove 2 года назад +7

      So much this! Listening with my reference headphones I could tell just by the stereo image which one was done by George. It's a very different approach but sounds so much better.

  • @elwoodroadsmusic9639
    @elwoodroadsmusic9639 2 года назад

    Ja ja ja ja ja :) Loved this little glimpse into mastering with George. Thankyou!

  • @MarvelJAM
    @MarvelJAM 2 года назад +6

    Watching you two interact was a treat. Thank you

  • @gardvord
    @gardvord 2 года назад +4

    I am speechless over what the mastering engineer was able to achieve. The track as well mixed before, still enormous difference. Impressed!

    • @1erwayne
      @1erwayne 2 года назад

      Seemingly, pretty damn quick too. I totally take them at their word, no prep was done. Hardware settings that is.

  • @FrancoAmorto
    @FrancoAmorto 2 года назад +14

    That's not a suprise to me BUT George's work is BY FAR the best Mastering... no picture !

  • @LaurenPassarelli
    @LaurenPassarelli 2 года назад +2

    Artists doing what they love…George is a gem.

  • @ocularrecords
    @ocularrecords 2 года назад

    From the moment that Neve turned on, @7:50 I knew it was over. Amazing video. Learned alot.

  • @jellemeeuwsen9842
    @jellemeeuwsen9842 2 года назад

    Haha the switch between SC and George literally made me giggle. As if my speakers got instantly upgraded majorly. Great vid Wytse! Keep up the good work!

  • @MrClaywell
    @MrClaywell 2 года назад

    Awesome vid. Can’t remember the last time I sat and watched a full 30-minute plus video straight through without stopping. Well done
    George knows his stuff for sure!

  • @gaboquintana3628
    @gaboquintana3628 2 года назад

    I've seen a lot of videos where it says "let's talk about mastering" and that's exactly what they do they just talk about what mastering is, but fee videos show somebody actually doing it.
    Thank you for your effort to produce this video it is very helpful.

  • @nanob0zo
    @nanob0zo 2 года назад +9

    We need more Lennard and George guest appearances!!! Awesome video!

  • @LeoDaShaman
    @LeoDaShaman 2 года назад +3

    The value in this video is THROUGH THE ROOF!!! thanks alot

  • @fortheoneswhocare
    @fortheoneswhocare 2 года назад +1

    Perfect way of demonstrating the differences between a mastering eng and instant services. Really enjoyed this video !!

  • @DigiMixAudio
    @DigiMixAudio Год назад

    Wytse, George rules on this comparison! Thanks for another great video, and keep George busy!

  • @eternity..
    @eternity.. 2 года назад +1

    THIS IS AMAZING. GREAT VIDEO, FOR THE TIME CAPSULE. THANK YOU. 👑 👑 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @DanBires
    @DanBires 2 года назад +1

    For me the massenberg eq really did it. Like he said he was able to bring the song more closer and that was cool. There is a huge difference. I would really like to get my next rack mastered by world wide master.. Thanks great video. I used land a few years back and tried that master. I thought they both sounded dull and lifeless. I started using a mastering engineer out in LA myself and He does great work. I am always open to finding out new mastering engineers to work with. I will be getting in touch with him.

  • @MrPerfectpizza
    @MrPerfectpizza 2 года назад +8

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching this video and hearing the differences in sound while marvelling at the gear! RUclips needs more videos like this one. Big respect to you both for sharing this! Thank you.

  • @pedroarechigamorfin1228
    @pedroarechigamorfin1228 2 года назад +2

    I think this is the best video on this channel yet. Thank you so much!!!

  • @AuroraBPolaris
    @AuroraBPolaris 2 года назад

    You said it right at the end of the video "Why am I even doing this" haha, quality upload as always !

  • @johnellers
    @johnellers 2 года назад

    I'm following you for some years now and this is one of your best videos. It is for me more clear than it already was, nothing beat a real human regarding to mixing and mastering! Yank you so much for this video and greetings from Rotterdam.

  • @Eline_official
    @Eline_official 2 года назад

    As a mix and mastering engineer I have only one answer to this. There is nothing better than personal touch.

  • @Gilwtt
    @Gilwtt 2 года назад

    Oh Men!!! I listened to the mastering studio session in my homeStudio and I'm lterally blown out by what I heard even in youtube. This is a huge demonstration of mastering process... Really!

  • @ChrisTuttle
    @ChrisTuttle 2 года назад +1

    To my ears, the audio mastering done and the dynamics adjusted is subtle yet orgasmic. What a joy to watch and listen to.

  • @davidbiangles7324
    @davidbiangles7324 2 года назад +3

    Hi,
    I just watched this and have to say that I learned more about mastering from your friend and you together than the hours of 'tutorials' over several years - I think I finally 'got it' (knobs, ears, gut!). Loved the track before - magic after. Many thanks.

  • @connollytunes
    @connollytunes 2 года назад +11

    Great video!! You missed one factor though about the instant mastering (which I have never used) - George will usually be charging a little more than $19... But it really was an enjoyable video. George was so fun!

    • @losangulos
      @losangulos 2 года назад +1

      a bedroom producer going to a mastering process online will go to whaever sounds best to him with limited experience, and of course George knows whats best and whats happening in the entire balance of things, you are paying for that knowledge, and it shows, of course its going to be pricier, its really a no brainer.

  • @tutunuitekanawa3940
    @tutunuitekanawa3940 2 года назад

    Respect too George for wearing a very sacred stone from Aotearoa New Zealand. A Pounamu Taonga. Very special! Awesome! Chur too the team for the education.

  • @emlispbeatz3576
    @emlispbeatz3576 7 месяцев назад

    My best mastering tutorial so far, so good
    Thank u George for this tutorial.

  • @adampeters9684
    @adampeters9684 2 года назад

    This video does an incredible job of illustrating the value of mentorship in the audio community. No amount of RUclips can replace the experience of taking your mix to a mastering engineer who knows what they’re doing with a pimped out setup. I always walk away with an enhanced perspective. Cheers to you both!

  • @AndyKingCo
    @AndyKingCo 2 года назад

    Wow what a great mastering engineer!!! George

  • @myproductionadvice
    @myproductionadvice 2 года назад +1

    "all we do is analog and... attention - here comes the Distressor!" 😅 George is not only a super mastering engineer, but first he is a very nice person. Great journey, Wytse! Thanks, thanks. thanks...

  • @radiovalkyrierecords5102
    @radiovalkyrierecords5102 2 года назад

    Well done. And not surprising. But nice that you found out the same things I've casually found out for myself a few times.
    Thanks for taking the time and spending the money to do so!

  • @ubercoolboy
    @ubercoolboy 2 года назад +1

    Bro just discovered you, your content is fire! Appreciate your work frfr!

  • @yesmanasia123
    @yesmanasia123 2 года назад

    I loved this video. Thank you so much Wytse and George!

  • @robertjason6885
    @robertjason6885 2 года назад

    George is a quality engineer. Gear only takes you so far. What you do with it..or not is one key...the other is having very good ears. In a stereo mix, George managed to lock the bass drum and synth bass together. Impressive. The word you may have been looking for is "presence" as regards the vocal. A bit more "in the room."

  • @klexen
    @klexen 2 года назад +45

    Impressive Results from the "manual" masterting. Would be interesting to see/hear how close to this he/you could get working only with plug ins.

    • @myproductionadvice
      @myproductionadvice 2 года назад +1

      always 99% 😄 all this equipment exists as a plugin version, so it's only a choice of a master

  • @pabloriverafernandez7799
    @pabloriverafernandez7799 2 года назад

    Wytse thanks for make this happen. It helped me to go with George as mastering engineer, and what a pleasant surprise! He was great player and delivered on timely manner. Regarding the quality of the product, there are no words to express how the song sounded after his magic touch.

  • @Gilwtt
    @Gilwtt 2 года назад

    This one is the most expensive but favourite vid you gave us actually ;-) Hats off!!!

  • @toobvu
    @toobvu 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for taking the time to create this informative video. I concur that George clearly has created the best master - smooth, open and spatial compared with all the others. LANDR sounds pretty good to my ear, and certainly better than the other mastering services you've tested.

  • @doubler4433
    @doubler4433 2 года назад

    One of the most interesting videos about Matering I´ve seen, great content

  • @therealdjap
    @therealdjap 2 года назад +1

    George is absolutely amazing. Best out of all by far. He is incredible. I can't wait to come out that way and check you both out.

  • @SSQUIRESOUND
    @SSQUIRESOUND 2 года назад

    damn.... this was actually so insightful lol. Thank you for showing the process. 💪💪

  • @discowolf25
    @discowolf25 2 года назад

    Ayyyy appreciate the love 😂 💯!! So many auto masters are absolutely insane (in the worst way).

  • @BlackWeaponsBench
    @BlackWeaponsBench 2 года назад

    Fantastic. Not only very informative but FUN to watch. Thanks!

  • @pdamasco
    @pdamasco 2 года назад

    Watching George was a lot of fun! It reminded me of being in rehearsals at University for our performances. You can tell how intricately he knows each piece of equipment in that mastering chain. He dials thins in very quickly and you can instantly hear the improvements in dynamics and overall width of the track. It has more impact and sustains the "mood" of the music because of how he dialed in the roll-off of each punchy and dynamic instrument in the mix. I really can't get over how effective he is in such a short period of time. It's very impressive!!

  • @mantis834
    @mantis834 2 года назад

    George's mix hands down the winner here.
    More open, more depth, the low end was tighter, the highs had a nice air to them, everything sounds smooth, creamy, punchy.
    Human ears, human touch and human heart are the three best plugins we can use.

  • @Barnsey87
    @Barnsey87 Год назад

    Just a beautiful insight for upcoming mastering engineers bless you.

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 2 года назад +7

    Really cool watching your friend master...it was mind blowing....in a good way...tell him...I learned alot from him....!!! and I really appreciate all your advice as well

  • @tim.van.emmerloot
    @tim.van.emmerloot 2 года назад +1

    George is insane!! Super musical and tasteful, knowing precisely how to get the result he wants

  • @67Rec
    @67Rec 2 года назад

    Charming fellow, and your friendship made for a fun watch.

  • @Mansardian
    @Mansardian 2 года назад +4

    I think George got some new customers by now. He owes you another coffee😂
    I seriously consider sending my songs to him. He's fantastic!

    • @jaybird3636
      @jaybird3636 2 года назад

      but the last and most important question is: how much does it cost to let george master this song 😁😁

  • @fadamusik
    @fadamusik 2 года назад

    WoW man!!... THANK YOU , THANK YOU, THANK YOU, for such an amazing video. Watching all this jewels around you...my god. For me, it is a gift. I have been enjoying the whole video, sitting here in the studio. And in the moment that George started the magic...Come on!!. It has been pretty awesome. Feeling What a professional is doing....I repeat, this video is a piece os gift you have gave us. And, above all, I´ve really liked the relation that both have and that we could have seen. Thank you

  • @magiusicgician4102
    @magiusicgician4102 2 года назад

    This was amazing Whytse!

  • @dontlooklistenmodular4742
    @dontlooklistenmodular4742 Год назад

    I really enjoyed this video, keep up the great work

  • @djelvis1
    @djelvis1 2 года назад

    10 minutes in...already one of the sickest videos you've made. I recently bought Focal trio 6's and I'm just pumping out quality tunes....I will be contacting this man.

  • @JamesRamboPearce
    @JamesRamboPearce 2 года назад

    Yeah so I'm definitely going to be looking at George to master my EP, thanks a lot for sharing

  • @gooshie3
    @gooshie3 2 года назад

    Thanks for this Wytse, and George. Very insightful.

  • @driesketels805
    @driesketels805 2 года назад

    Great video. He touched the track on the right places. I noticed especially the highs. So much better. Thank you!

  • @Genolexis
    @Genolexis 2 года назад

    This just blew my mind and probably saved me time and money. I rather learn how to master my own music or have a professional master my music. Great work.

  • @mikepaynt4436
    @mikepaynt4436 2 года назад +3

    It's night and day! Also - The gear in his studio is such a wonderful selection.

  • @kgbmusicproductionpublishi724
    @kgbmusicproductionpublishi724 2 года назад

    so exciting and seeing the passion while working...feels really good. thank you for the video

  • @jimkashner
    @jimkashner 2 года назад

    Excellent production of, participation in, and presentation of this "Mixing Contest" video, @Wytse. I learned a great deal, and have even more that I'm still thinking about. Thank You!
    Also, my honest opinion is that "It's No Contest". George's master is The Obvious Winner of your "Mixing Contest", @Wytse. Whether I listen to the video on (a) my studio monitors or (b) my studio headphones, the magnitude of the superiority of George's master is Huge! The reason for my conclusion is very simple to explain. George's Musical Ear and George's Obvious Mastering Experience and Expertise give him an extremely unique advantage, specifically George's "Tool Between His Ears".
    Finally, although George's personal modest manner would never allow him to do it, he deserves a "Mic Drop And Out!" at the end of this video!

  • @adamslawson
    @adamslawson 2 года назад

    Amazing job making this video, this might be the best mastering video I've ever seen. Being able to hear the mastering process while you're both talking and the camera work and being honest with your process. You're helping the industry for other future high-level engineers to also grow to this level. Love seeing and hearing your mastering chain. Thank you for sharing! Lots to learn here.

  • @RaphaelLoopro
    @RaphaelLoopro 2 года назад

    Weer een hele goede en informatieve video. Het maakt de keuze voor ons muziek producenten makkelijker. Liever iets meer betalen en een te gekke sound krijgen als weinig uitgeven en de kwaliteit hebben van goedkope muziek.
    Dank je wel man

  • @chrisharrison809
    @chrisharrison809 2 года назад +1

    This channel is great. I really appreciate this.

  • @DKH712
    @DKH712 2 года назад +1

    Wow I didn't expect the difference to be so huge. The high end is so nice on the real master.

  • @purvue
    @purvue 2 года назад +1

    This video and George just taught me alot. like seriously. i have a good ear i just didnt know what the differences were called i could always just hear it. but George explained aspects of the audio and help me link it to my ears. I subscribed. please feature George on more uploads he is awesome. my kind of music man

  • @busyworksbeats
    @busyworksbeats 2 года назад +6

    Song is Fire 🔥

    • @Skibosski
      @Skibosski 2 года назад +1

      Busy works beatssssssssss ❤️

  • @teqnotic
    @teqnotic 2 года назад

    Thanks for providing this comparison!

  • @chicagovoicelab
    @chicagovoicelab 2 года назад

    Amazing! Thank you again for the best content!

  • @dantefilippelli6878
    @dantefilippelli6878 2 года назад

    Thanks for making this video!

  • @motofreak525
    @motofreak525 2 года назад

    Thank you for demonstrating the value of hiring an experienced mastering engineer. I know the online services have their place for those without the budget to hire someone, but the difference in results is night and day. I've worked as a mastering engineer in a Los Angeles mastering house for almost ten years now and often times potential clients really aren't aware of the potential difference in the result. Just because something has been "Mastered" doesn't mean it has been done well. This video does a great job of highlighting all of the care, time, and gear that goes into the traditional mastering process, and clearly shows the human care yields superior results. Thanks again for taking the time to show people what we do!

  • @KelbyThwaits
    @KelbyThwaits 2 года назад

    Great comparison video. I loved hearing the mastering services next to each other and especially George’s work (which was excellent).

  • @homestudioculture
    @homestudioculture 2 года назад

    It was great watching the mastering session in the studio!

  • @travislrogers
    @travislrogers 2 года назад

    Now that’s entertainment! What a great video! George is a brilliant musician / engineer. Such a pleasure to watch the process and get to see the difference that such skilled ears can bring to the final product. More session videos please! 🕺

  • @tonychristopher1852
    @tonychristopher1852 2 года назад +6

    I think doing your own mastering would even be better than the on line route. Then again it's always best to get an outside engineers ears (that you can trust), especially if you want to keep your sanity. Great video!

    • @snubdawg1386
      @snubdawg1386 2 года назад

      but it's so hard to find one who you can trust....and afford

    • @jhohanmusic
      @jhohanmusic 2 года назад +1

      * Hire a master engineer to keep your sanity 🎯

  • @benhj
    @benhj 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video. I found the comparison really useful. I actually use emastered for my tracks but I do find it to over compress stuff generally. As such, I usually put their compression on the lowest setting (all music on my channel was put through it). Thanks!

  • @cheadlejuice-musicproducti5875
    @cheadlejuice-musicproducti5875 2 года назад

    This was great! More Please!

  • @mando3022
    @mando3022 2 года назад

    P A S S I O N - that is what kept me making music for over 30 years. It's something that can't be replicated/imitated (yet) by machines. Love the studio vibes and thank you both for sharing them with us!

  • @simonhestermann
    @simonhestermann 2 года назад +30

    Hey everyone, this is Simon from Masterchannel.
    First of all, thank you for reviewing our service! We are well aware and equally disappointed that our master fell behind in this comparison, and we are grateful for the feedback we have gotten through this video. A lot of updates have already been made since the recording of this video and your honest feedback is much appreciated. We'll continue improving our service to tailor it to your needs. For those interested, you can now try our service for free when you create an account.
    If you have any further feedback, we're open ears and happy to hear from you :)

    • @oldschooljohnny
      @oldschooljohnny 2 года назад

      nice 1

    • @marlondeagle
      @marlondeagle 2 года назад

      Thanks for giving the community such opportunities! I really appreciate your work, keep it up guys - you're doing a phenomenal job.

  • @sodiumlights
    @sodiumlights 2 года назад

    truly fantastic video. Would love to see more of George in the future, so enjoyable watching you two cool dudes. Thank You!

  • @waynebo248
    @waynebo248 2 года назад

    Great comparison. Finally someone made the audio resolution good enough to really hear the difference! (1080 vs. 4K) Thank you! Now to save up some more money for a mastering engineer...

  • @ulrichhermes1315
    @ulrichhermes1315 2 года назад

    thx for sharing this, nice to see inside a professional workflow.