SHOOTOUT! - Yamaha Recording Custom vs Sakae Almighty Birch Drum Sets
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- SHOOTOUT! - Yamaha Recording Custom vs Sakae Almighty Birch
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Snare drum used with Recording Custom - Yamaha Akira Jimbo Signature Steel 14x5
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Snare drum used with Almighty Birch - Sakae Brass 14x6.5
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Cymbals used in this video: Sabian XSRs - 14" Hats/16" Fast Crash/20" Fast Crash/ 21" Ride
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Hands down, the best sound demo of all music shops demoing drums..You've even surpassed the mighty memphis drum shop in my humble opinion.. Kudos to you !!
This guys demo of drum is great, but Nick of Sweetwater is is my favorite.
The only way to really compare would be to have the same heads on both.
Yip. Single ply vs double, ya may as well have Birch vs Bubinga
The new Recording Custom has a SHARPER edge than the previous versions. Yamaha calls it 30 degrees, but that is measured from the side of the drum, not the edge (like Gretsch measures). If measured the way Gretsch measures their 30 degree edge, the Yamaha is actually a 60 degree edge. One only need look at the new edge to understand this.
Prefer the sakae over the yammys for sure. Much more ass to the sound of that kit. Sucks sakae is struggling so bad and on the verge of going out of business if they haven’t already. I know they are millions and millions of dollars in debt. Sucks they haven’t really caught on with the drumming world because they have some of the most best sounding drums in the world. Im a Tama guy and love everything about Tama but if I had to pick another company and kit to play it would definitly be sakae.
sakae=original recording custom
Terrific comparison with details regarding the specs (bearing edges, etc.) and very useful information. Also, kudos for playing so the kit could truly be evaluated, rather than showing off your chops. One;y thing I would have done differently would have been to use the same heads and tuning for both kits. But overall, 10 stars for the video!!
with cheap headphones, the Yamaha seem to sound better, when i put my focal utopia headphones, the sakae sound so much better. the sakae has pure equalized tone. it's like a perfect sound that is very balanced top, mid and bottom. the sakae has more meat to the overall sound too. with cheap headphones, these details are impossible to hear.
Sake sound cool but Yamaha drums especially the snares just have a unique signature sound, almost like a punchy Japanese drum.
The Sakae toms are just killer. Live with no mics, it's not even that close. The Sakae's have a huge sound. The Yammies are good no doubt/ But the best thing about this, is Birch. I am so on a birch kick now over maple, the cut. clarity, and boom. Either kit, good choice.
Birch vs Maple both good and different for different playing situations.
I have a Gretsch 70’s Jazz kit 6 ply North America hard rock maple and
a Yamaha recording series Japanese Birch
Sometimes the Yamys are suitable and sometimes the Gretsch are more suitable.
... at times I use the Gretsch maple snare with the Yamaha.
the Premier Project One snare with the Gretsch
the Gretsch 14” floor with the Yamaha 16” floor
The Zildjian always with the Gretsch
The Paste always with the Yamaha
The Rogers Supreme hi hat and foot pedal with Gretsch
The Jacques Capelle hi hat and foot pedal with the Yamaha always.
You're hearing the type of heads more than the wood of the drum. It would have been a better comparison if both kits had the same type of heads.
Both sound good, but the recording customs are just stunningly beautiful. That's the best sounding kit I've heard (on video) in a long time..
I preferred the Almighty
Sakae are louder, no question. Yamahas sound sweeter, better tone. I own a set of recording custom, bought them in 1983. The new kit sounds a little better. I have two sets of Yamahas. You can't go wrong with them, but I bought a set of Gretsch Brooklyns about 10 years ago and they blow both of these sets away. In any case, the modern drummer has a ton of choices these days. Research research research...
Sakae all the way here........ I just ordered one this week!
Wow, really? Sakae went out of business in 2018 so I wonder who took your order!
@@JennifersEar dcp bought all their over stock
Sakae all the way!!!
Sonically more alive more tone and definitely more balls!
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When testing the toms, you should turn off the snares so we can hear just the toms without snare interference...just sayin'...
Where were you 3 years ago when we recorded this?
You've been watching too many Sweetwater videos. Most drummers have their snares engaged, so I'd rather hear Toms with the snares engaged.
Have you seen how many snare drums are behind this guy?!? There’s over 100 snares there lol! 😂
I love them both, but the Sakae is definitely louder, stronger and longer lasting.
The Sakae's win it hands down.
Sakae needs to seriously rethink the badges on the Almighty series. Awful.
+dogmart yeah , I agree 100 % !
They look like the old Ludwig CS badges, especially with that finish. They sounds great though!
Then the original version becomes immediately collectable, lol, instruments...
i like sakae better than yamaha (though i am a mapex guy), but i agree 100%..those badges are just not good for such a brand..
maybe they need to hire Johnny Ive..lol :D
some of their finishes (while of great quality) are .....not pleasing. the drums are great though.
Sakae for me between the two. Much prefer the toms and bass sound/tone over Yamaha. Although the Yamaha is by no means a inferior kit. Just personal taste in sound.
Sakae for me. More dynamic range and a more well rounded natural EQ. In my garage and backyard they would sound best. If I were an engineer I'm sure I would choose the Yamaha.
both are sweet. I like the sakae a little more
I freaking love birch drums!!
Something worth mentioning not related to Yamaha or sakae.If you look at the wall to shanes left there is like $12000.00 in Nobel and Cooley snares.(This a serious drum shop) wish they were located where I live. This has got to be the drummers dream shop of all times.!,, WOW !!!
Sakae All the way! Not even close
SAKAE !
sakae sound better
Yamaha Recording Custom has a more concentrated and pleasant listening sound (to my opinion)
Winner of the shootout: the Yamaha Recording Custom. ;)
The sound quality of this demo is incredible through my headphones. Both kits sound equally great. Hard to tell the difference with different heads being used. Great job..
Classic birch drums = Scandinavian (Sonor, Kumu) or Hokkaido birch (Yamaha).
+vintage tama artstar,superstar (Hokkaido birch)
cruz Artstar is Maple while Granstar and Crestar was Birch. Certain older Superstars were also Birch.
Sakae is made of Hokkaido birch, new Recording Customs are made of North American birch.
Which wood species is the better ?
Both kits sound bad ass, but I prefer the clear Emporers and therefore the heads are going to win out more than the actual drums. I'd probably rather own the Yammies with clear Emps, but in this case, the Sakae kit sounds a bit better to my ears.
SAKAE
You and your staff does a mighty splendid job! Your passion is appreciated
Thank you very much!
2 great kits. They are both fantastic Its is just what you said. Head choice makes the difference, Wonderful recording. Sounds great in my Sony MDR-V6
Do another shootout with the same EXACT heads on all drums and use the same snare on each kit just to make things easier. Both of these kits sound phenomenal but I'm willing bet %99.9 of the difference is the heads. Has anyone confirmed that Sakai is using the SAME shells as the ones supplied to Yamaha? Same ply #'s, thickness and bearing edges?
Sakae makes their own shells from japanese birch, Yamaha gets them from US.
Hhmmm 🤨 I love Yamaha drums 🪘 but have to say I liked the Sakai better. I had not ever heard a Sakai drum before. Pretty cool
AS IT COMES DOWN TO "STAGE CUSTOMS" & "RECORDING CUSTOMS" FROM THE 8O'S & 9O'S THEY WILL NEVER MAKE ANYTHING BETTER THEN ESPECIALLY FROM LIKE 1O YEARS FROM MID 8O'S ~ MID 9O'S THAT WAS DEFINITELY THE BEST THEY WILL EVER SOUND AND BUILD THOSE INDONESIA & JAPAN SET CAN NOBODY AND EVEN THEMSELVES CAN BEAT THEM AND THIS IS COMING FROM A DW DRUMMER I JUST GOT TO GIVE IT UP TO WHAT IS AND WAS THEIR BEST ERA
What's the snare drum with the yamaha RC kit ?
sakae. no doubt has the recording custom sound , better then the new Yamaha, not a fan , does not sound better to my hear , they fucked up by not using Japanese birch anymore.
The heads are the only real discernable difference.. the sakae has that wet attack the recording custom has more color
I don't like the idea of the Yamaha's being made in China. I think mass production.
The tones from the Yammy's are a more rounded musical note for each drum. Fab kick and the toms are nice and deep too. They have a quicker decay and a nicer resonance. Yamaha All Day Boss
I am biased. I own Yamaha RC drums in black finish and love them.
Sakae 👍🏿
The Yamaha snare is killer!!! SAKAE drums sounded warmer to me and I prefer that sound. SAKAE 100% for live, maybe in studio yamaha, sometimes SAKAE
I like the Sakae snare drum much better than the Yamaha Akira Jimbo snare.
Yamaha wins hands down - for me anyway.....
4:38 or 6:55
The Yamaha sounds deadly
Recording custom
Aren't you a lucky dogg getting to play YRC drums love need to get a set for sure,thnx for posting. Mike D. :)
It's a pretty sweet gig. Thanks, for watching, Mike!
Sakae kick is less mushy
I preferred the Sakae's over the Yamaha
Uffff amazing Drums! Yamaha they best 🔥🔥🙌
Yes.I prefer too YAMAHA👍all drums sounds Well
SAKAE sounds like Tama Silverstar,, pretty close sound.... YAMAHA sounds short sustain , perfect for studio recording..
RC s all the way
Sakae all the way!
too much talking
As always in this guys videos
Luckily you can skip it if it doesn't interest you.
Good
Hi
Sakae!
The Sakae sound more like my Oak Custom Kit.
I am right, that the are made as the old Yamaha Recordings?
Sakae snare👍👍
YAMAHA
I like the other kit through the nice better than the Yamaha kit. That snare sucks too in the first video. I realized that even though Yamaha has their famous drummer I don’t like his style at all. And I like almost every style. I’ve been disappointed with most of the purchases I’ve made based on him being their drummer.
Sakae sounds brighter and most aggressive. I'd pick Sakae
YOU SHOULD TAKE OFF ALL SNARE WIRES IN THE ROOM
No longer an issue with our newer videos thankfully!
at 4:49 Shane slips in a quick couple Bonham licks, I believe from Stairway To Heaven. Very cool.
Sakae for me
I have a 35 yr old RC kit and the Sakae ( I have used the same heads ) sound more like my kit the New RC's sound even more controlled and with the round bearing edges not surprised ....Note if you have a drum that's a bit livelier you can always add a bit of tape to control but a deader drum your stuck with it..Both sound outstanding the New RC's are ridiculously priced I was in Memphis drum shop two years ago I couldn't believe the prices, 85 I payed $3600 for my shells and a bit of hardware including double pedal 24",13",14",15",16",18"....sure you would be around the $8,000 mark now for these sizes maybe more ..mid range drums have come so far they sound just as good for 1/4 of the money
I'm so glad you guys decided to do this comparison since I'm trying to choose from this two kits right now. After watching this vid a few times, I've decided I need both. Seriously though, they sound similar to each other as expected but I give a slight edge to the Yamahas. I need to meditate on this one. LOL!e.
What is the difference between North America birch and Hakydo Japanese birch.
... I bought my Yamaha recording series in 1983, a long time, no problem ever, they sound better now 40 years later.
I like your presentation.
I like the Sakae. You are right. A little louder. A little more sustain, longer note.
Thanks for this. They both sound good. For honest comparison same heads on both sets and same tuning would be best but it gives a good impression. The Yamaha RC is the winner for me. If I mays ask you a question: I thought that all Yamaha Absolute shells were thinner than the none Absolute shells. Later on Yamaha suggested that Birch Custom Absolute shells were the same as the Recording Custom shells. Same, wood, same amount of plies and same thickness. If that’s true, do you have shallow Birch Custom Absolute in Sea Blue Fade in stock? Thanks for your love of drums 🙏🏼
Very good video, now what you should do is a shootout between, Noble/Cooley vs an Ayotte wood rim kit. Not only would you hear the upper end of the drum world, you would hear how different drummers approach these high end kits. Hey just to make everyone crazy do a Brady/Craviatto/ Gms shootout. Thx
Why there are no rubber gaskets between the shell and the lugs on the Y RC?? 🤔
Guys I beg you. Please do shootout Yamaha Recording Custom vs Live Custom!
I own a 2001-era Recording Custom set, and the Sakae drums in this video sound better than my RCs (and the RCs in this video).
I don't love either as much as I expected. They probably work great in a mix though.
Nice demo, enjoyed your playing. Both kits are tight!! You can't go wrong with either, but I slightly prefer the Yamaha snare.
That yamaha bassdrum sound much better than the sakae
Yamahas kicks have always been sick. My 11 year old absolute noveau kick is still killing it,
Wish I lived closer! Would love to visit the shop, honestly would be worth the 8 hours drive from Toronto! Thanks again for making all these videos, the quality is superb
In my humble opinion, shootouts should be blind. More fun that way. ;o)
It's really the heads that make the difference in sound. Same heads and tunning and these sets would sound identical.
Way too much talking for the start of an instrument video
Sakae with the Yamaha Snare Darker cymbals
Really prefer to have heard them with similar heads.
Would "have" loved to "have" heard them with similar heads?
Paul Marangoni
Thank you. I hang around with a lot of people that speak like that; now I even type like that!
I see it a lot on RUclips. People write phonetically a lot.
3:25 to skip the yappin, straight to the playin
Thank you
Yamaha wins it in my book
SAKAE for mine, here.
Prefer Pearl and Gretsch.
Sakae.... for some reason 🤓
Weird I don't know why but the yammie bass drum punches harder, otherwise little difference to my ears allowing for the different heads, I like emperors and coated ambassadors on my mapex pro M kit so I alternate between coated for recording and emperors for live gigs.
Emad 2 on bass drum at all times,worth the money!
akira jimbo snare drum?
those rc's sound so sexy
Sakae by far for me.
Any high end Tama ;-)
This is where Yamaha completely destroys Sakae...
!!!??? are we watching the same video ???
The Sakae snare is awesome
Both sound fabulous!
You can't do a legit comparison with completely different heads on the two kits lol...
Those are the heads the kits ship with - the heads the manufacturers felt each kit sounds best with. Makes perfect sense to me.
Perfect!!