Death of the leisure battery? Are portable power pack's the future for campers / day vans?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2022
- We've been using the Ecoflow power pack's of a while now and find them great for the purposes of our builds. The simple power, portability, installation and easy charging, just means they are so easy to use and set up. Plus they can be used literally anywhere. There are various options from Ecoflow whether you want big power for a full camper build, or you just want something simple to carry out for those trips to the beach or to use in the awning etc.
I'm honestly so impressed with these. I took one glamping recently with the family and it was so useful. My Wife loves her throffy milk for a coffee, we took the aeroccino and boom, Starbuck's in a safari tent. It also kept the children's Nintendo DS's and iPads going during the rainy British weather. It really was a god send. They are robust too, I managed drop it down a hill fairly far. Other than a few light mark's, in looks and run perfectly.
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Let us know in the comments below if you think this is a system you could use in your set-up
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Great! I will definitely look it up. Thanks again.
Great video!
Thanks, we try :)
All I can say is that the Delta Max is the perfect back up power sourcr for my home. Love the fast charging and the power that it has.
Yeah they're super impressive aren't they.
Never was I wrong when I got the Delta Mini. I do use it everyday for my CPAP machine and it has been very reliable.
They come in so handy all round don't they. I use mine daily
Yes they are. One thing I also like is the 6 AC sockets at the rear. I can plug in 6 gadgets all at the same time.
Yes very useful
Brilliant video! How would you connect one of these straight to a camper fuse board?
Thanks for the video. It does seem that Ecoflow has the right sized power station for my needs. Think I'll be getting that Delta.
Glad to help. We have them on our website for next day delivery :)
I have been using a Delta and I am very happy about the fast charging. Looking at upgrading to the Delta Max.
Yeah they really are impressive aren't they.
They are definitely handy, especially the fast charging that it is capacble of.
Yeah from our research, these are the fastest charging units on the market.
Great video!
I'm looking to buy a lwb crafter in a couple of weeks.
I want to kit it out with my chop saw in the van because I do a lot of stair refurbishments so in the winter I don't want to be outside freezing or in the passing rain using my festool gear. I will probably but one of these heaters everyone has now also. But to use the mid sizes festool chopsaw, what size of unit would I need and how much do these cost.
Also, I want to fit a rear camera to the crafter, have you guys done this yet?
Following you guys now and liked
Love your lights but they will need to wait because as you know these vans aren't cheap so it's pushed me a bit.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Ian
I have one to compliment my leisure setup, basically all my leisure keeps going now is my fridge/lights.
If I’m having a good day on solar I plug my poweroak ac50 into the 12v and top off.
Great idea.
Looks great... May l ask if l gave a leisure battery fully wired into the caravan. How would you bypass that set up to poeer the lighting system and fridge etc? Also can the be powered up using solar panels? Many thanks in advance. Tony
EcoFlow sounds that’s it’s way to go Technology is outpacing us Wrinklies😂😂 but Technology is so good and so interesting another fantastic video take care everyone👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍
I know the feeling Peter 😂👴🏻
Great video. Do you have a follow on video showing the install you did please?
Great video, if they only made one of these that fitted under on of the front seats.
The way technology is changing, I bet they will do soon
Like the idea alot mate, If in 5 years the battery needs replacing, I wonder if thats a thing? Obvs I need to ask Ecoflow.. Cheers for the free hug though 😍
In 5 years we'll be getting the same power out of something the size of a protein bar 😂 Mote free hug come in future videos 🤪
Not only that, But I can add a couple of extra batteries if I need it to increase the capacity.
loved the video with some great products but that stealth flap is next level
Yeah it is pretty cool right
@@THQAutomotive just watching loads of your videos. You guys are awesome. Keep it up. Great company and great products 👍🏻
@@alexcorlett1984 thank you for your kind words
I have a lithium leisure battery. It’s bolted in place and is charged by B2B, solar and mains chargers. Trouble is with a lithium power pack and I have a small one. If there’s a break in, that’s a nice piece of kit to run off with.
Yeah I agree. Although I think a decent bike lock or similar would be a great way to secure it.
Great info - looking forward to seeing how you install one in place of a leisure battery. Could you safely run a diesel heater off one of these?
Yes you could, no issues.
This looks amazing. Heard of another brand but these look fab. I was thinking of a dual leisure battery setup to replace out single but might just leave as-is and chuck one of these under the seat for all the USB and 240v stuff. Quick question….to run a 240v trickle charge direct to the battery, can we just butcher the cig lighter charger or has it got anything fancy built in to regulate the charge?
Yes they can charge from the cigarette lighter. It is very slow though. Also worth looking at the Clayton LPS 2 for a full system to do all this and more. ruclips.net/video/F-o9s8XPzLY/видео.htmlsi=U3N3HbR846s5tfoS
I have a month and half to move in to my old ducato camper. going to live there for a year. work 8-5 as normal . Do you think i could go with powerstation like AFERIY P210,( or similar)charge it with solar and maybe with inventer? whats your take on it. you seem like the guy that would have some answers. I know nothing about building it so would have to hire somone for lithum setup(diy) thanks!
I could use this for powering tools when I’m on site on those quick jobs 🤔
Yep for sure. The delta would be the route to take
If I am going to be living in a small campervan full time with a 12v fridge running full time, 6 LED ceiling lights, ceiling fan, water pump and will be charging my phone and laptop, would a power system be enough to power it? If so, what wattage system do you think that would need? I have seen 2000w ones but I'm not sure if that's overkill or not enough. Just started researching so unsure of all the technical stuff yet😅
Hi, great video. My question is would I be able to use one of the units to power a PA system for an outdoor event and how would I know what unit I need for the voltage of my speakers. Thanks
Yes probably. You'd just want the biggest you can afford. The biggest it is, the longer it will run for.
Purchased a Delta Max with a whopping 2016Wh and the ability to increase the capacity to 6kWh when I need it.
Great purchase 👌
Looking forward to seeing a setup with these at the heart. Defo looks like the future
We'll be building one soon
Could it power a small oil filled radiator for a couple of nights? Thinking ideal for weekend camps at the early/late season. Don't really want to go down the diesel heater but this could work if there's no hook up on a site?
Anything heat uses a lot of power. I depends on what watt the heater is but it wouldn't last for 2 nights.
Really tempted to buy the big one, not for the van but for the house as a power wall and extend the use of the overnight flexi tariff. Would be good to hear if you've tried it with your Tesla 2kW charger or elec. bikes - can you rescue a Tesla with it and get like 5%? I think they're a good price really, includes the inverter, solar charger & cabling which all adds up with a permanent instal. My concern for use in a van though is easy to steal, but then there's insurance for that.
We've tried the Talaria electric bike battery with no issue in the Delta. Thats pulling around 675 watts. I've tried mind with just about everything now and its not struggled at all. As for security, I guess the simplest option is take it out as its mobile. Alternatively, it has big chunky handles you could easily strap it to the vehicle with a bike chain or something similar
I bought a BLUETTI AC50S 500Wh for the farm and have taken with me in the camper, the thought would I use this over the collection of batteries and controls and inverter and wires all over the place if I was to do the van all again. I think the answer is yes, it would seem to be using it with the exisiting solar on the roof would be easy enough and it would in general work well.
I do agree if you had a large van and more off grid this is not the way, but I did try it on a week away running a compressor fridge, lights and charging things, so for me in a VW Transporter, worked a treat.
Yes these portable power system do seem to rear suit that type of use too. I've gone full system in my Crafter but I'll always use a portable pack in anything smaller.
@@THQAutomotive I was trying to find these on the HQ site, but the link not linking, I am in Europe if that has an effect
@@Andy-wu1ev THQ eu don't sell them as we only get the European plug version
Sorry 😞
Nice work lads , really appreciate this sort of informative video. I recently purchased the EcoFlow River Pro & there Bifacial 220 watt solar panel to use in our new Multivan.
Still not sure thou how I will attack the power distribution throughout the van thou to run the other gadgets like fans & lights ect as they will be from one end & side of the van to the other.
I guess a power distribution board/ hub will have to go in somewhere.
Ideally it would mimic all the output & input points that the River Pro has so various accessories could be plugged in but what power outlet to use to power the hard wired accessories like L.E.D lights & fans ect has me a bit unsure.
Your thoughts on this would be very helpful.
Maybe a future video... hint hint !
Cheers team.
We do plan a video of similar. We're going to do a full camper install using an Ecoflow for the power. I've you've not already, subscribe to the channel. We'll try and do it soon 😊
@@THQAutomotive , excellent. All ready subscribed. Cheers for the up date !
Great video. What’s your opinion on the bluetti EB55?
They look good but i prefer the ecoflow as they charge considerable faster.The Bluetti are also considerable heavier
Would these work well with a george foreman grille, kettle, etc? obviously not all at once.
Mine is more a kombi used for motox meets and 1/2 days camping.
I've just tried the little River with a George Foreman with no problem's. As a guide it would power that for 28 minutes. I also tried a toaster with no issues. That showed 27 minutes starting with 96%. For a kettle you'd want a Delta, I think the River could struggle with some kettles.
Be good to know how long the alpicool fridges you’re selling will run on each of these. More likely to have portable fridge than my 150w fridge with me when camping 😉
It depends which ecoflow but it would run for a decent time. I can do a text you if like?
Any idea which would fit under a standard T6 drivers seat?
The river would I think
In my new Kombi van I am considering one of these or a Bluetti EB55 instead of a leisure battery and dc-dc charger.
We looked at the Bluetti but preferred the features and faster charge time of the ecoflow.
I’d go for Bluetti, so many more charge cycles with LiFePO4 chemistry.
@@THQAutomotive yes, and the app is also a benefit of the EcoFlow. The Bluetti uses a LifePo battery so has better number of charge cycles. For the 500ish Watt-hour models they work out slightly cheaper than buying a leisure battery, Victron Orion, shunt, inverter and cabling plus they’re portable for use away from the van as you’ve pointed out. I’m going to hardwire in the 12v ignition trickle charge and like you create some kind of mounting/box for it under/next to the Kombi bench
@@iambloater Yes it's interesting isn't it. I did talk to ecoflow about this. They said they were VERY conservative with their stated numbers. Time will tell if the others stand up to their claims
Check out the Delta 2, it’s a fairly new product and many more charge cycles. Also check out a RUclipsr ‘Gadget John’ he uses these products in his van build and they look awesome.
what about for a tv? would this work am converting my suv a 12v-240v inverter and have this plugged in so charges on the go on my adventures?
Yeah 100%. These will run a considerable size TV for 10 hours plus
Off topic , but what wheels are on the t6.1. They look like a bigger ATS cups
Navis GP7 split rims. Custom made.
Very nice
Be nice to see the solar set up to one, and the charging time.
You can find all this info on the Ecoflow website.
@@THQAutomotive ok thx
I'm pretty dumb to all electronics so these seem great idea for me...
So that smallest river unit I can use then just pop it in the 12v socket already in the back of my van and it will charge when I'm driving about???
Yes thats correct
@@THQAutomotive fucking bobbins ✌🏻
Just bought an Ecoflow Delta Mini. still waiting for our 6.1 pv to arrive. I wondered if it was possible to use an Ecoflow set up instead of installing a 240v leisure battery/inverter set up. Would you just go 12v and use the portable power banks, then? Your video was a great help. Thank you.
Yes depending on your usage. You could run a hook up to a standard 240v plug socket. Then charge it off that on sites if the 12v isn't giving you enough.
Off topic slightly, thinking of doing the corner flap thing, what size keysafe did you get? Thanks
Pop on Amazon and search small key safe. You'll see the same one we used in the video. It's the perfect size.
Ta mate
@@dickielove no problem 😊
@@THQAutomotive how did you fix the key safe? Just screwed it in like you would on a wall (+ sealant to stop rust)?
Question - can the smaller profile battery fit in the space under the driver seat in the T6.1? I've looked into getting a leisure battery fit under the seat and a lot of the cost was apparently due to charging off the alternator? I'm only going to use it to power internal lights, charge phones and maybe a tablet, so seems like a portable power pack that I can just charge in the house between trips would be a cheaper solution. The only issue I have is I don't want cables hanging about for the internal lights so it would be good if I could route them under the floor mat into the space under the seat and plug it into a portable pack that I also store under there if that makes sense?
Yes I'm I think one of the small ecoflow river units would
Won’t be changing any time soon … 2 yr warranty compared to 10 year on my Lithium battery
Fair point. In 10 years your lithium with be very out of date though. I know people won't be changing current set up, I'm just saying these are worth exploring for new build's.
@@THQAutomotive and in ten years time so will this
@@samcooper6115 yeah way out of date. You'll get the same power out of something the size on a AAA battery by then.
I was also thinking about running some sockets round the inside but I have no idea how to power them yet, or do I just run an extension cable to the van. Ideally I would love to be able to charge batteries on the go etc and use powered tools in the van.
Again!,any advice would be awesome.
Many thanks
Ian
Definitely interested in the Ecoflow Delta set up for my combi/ day van. Curious to know if you had any experience with using with an induction cooktop. Typically go away for a week and could supplement with BBQ's/ restaurants if wouldn't last that time. Would need 14 phone charges as well. Love the videos. 🤙🤙
Induction does pull some serious power. I have it in my crafter and you can see it draining
Fair enough, I guess you could still charge it through the mains hook up though right? (If at a campsite)
@@martinspurway22 yes totally
The Delta Max would probably cope with one induction area on at full power with fans kicking in but you would likely trigger shutdowns with two on the go unless you had them on a lower setting. Get it rigged up to a solar panel and it could work for you. You could also save some money on your electric bills when you are at home by cooking in the van. Every day would be like holiday!
@@andrewspicer3493 true! Love that 😊
Hi will this recharge my ebike takes 5 hours at home ? Very interested thanks
It should charge the same as at home.
Great episode, just wondering what colour grey that van is please ?
pure grey :)
@@THQAutomotive lol 😂 but seriously is it a colour you did yourselves or is it a vw colour. I’m raptoring my T5 swamper and live the colour
@@Brethonlaw No its a genuine stock VW colour called Pure grey.
@@THQAutomotive haha ok 👌 thanks again and our channel is great and the swamper springs I got from you guys are great 👍
Do have details of the usb charging kit you are going to use?
Sorry I don't understand
@@THQAutomotive Sorry i meant for the stealth unit, you mentioned the key safe and the additional use of a USB kit that you were going to install just wandered what kit it is. Sorry for the confusion i am looking into buying the stealth unit for our van.
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can you leave these thing continuously charging on solar?
Not really. Look at Clayton power for that kind of thing
Trouble is when these go wrong it's £600 + up the spout! New leisure battery £100.
Fair point but they really shouldn't go wrong
Ok… it won’t replace existing leisure batteries because most motorhomes are wired up for 12v lighting, heater fans, water pumps etc. The only way it could work as a leisure battery is to plug it in to the electric hookup… so you charge up a battery then output the power as 230v AC, then the motorhome converts the 230v AC back to 12v DC. Loss during every conversion and no inbuilt connectivity to a vehicle split charge system. Only viable as a complete motorhome redesign… good luck persuading the likes of Swift, AutoSleeper, Hymer, Adria etc!
Prices??
Various options. Check the website
No they cost a stupid amount for 2k watts per hour, have two 518 watt per hour jackery.
Weight in kg?
It depends which model, all weights can be found here transporterhq.co.uk/vw-transporter-parts-styling-accessories/camper-electrical/
Shame about the number of charge cycles compared to to similar products with LiFePO4 chemistry.
Yes it's interesting isn't it. I did talk to ecoflow about this. They said they were VERY conservative with their stated numbers. Time will tell if the others stand up to their claims
Omg u do know thiers a big battery in them
No way! 😱😉
@TransporterHQ yes way so whats the difference
@@JohnCUK this isn't a leisure battery