As a retired US Army Military Police Veteran, I can definitely say that I prefer the German Shepherd Dog (GSD). I might prefer the Belgian Malinois if I was an active Green Beret/Navy Seal, but I’m not. The GSD is much more practical for the vast majority of people, including myself. The Belgian Malinois is awesome, and does some amazing work, but it’s simply more than I need. I usually play with my two GSDs every day. I throw the ball for them, run around with them, act silly, jump, and entertain them, and they love it. But I probably couldn’t give the Belgian Malinois the life it really deserves. My GSDs are happy and I can walk them and lay on the couch with them and they chill with me while I watch Animal Watch lol. A Belgian Malinois would put me in a retirement home.
Well said. I wud say same myself. The gsd is more for everyone and the beliguim is more specialized and I wud never be able to fulfill its needs in my daily routine. Plus Belgium's I've heard tend to be healthier
@@williamfernandini967 Yeah both are spectacular dogs. The GSD is just much simpler to care for and it is easier to provide the GSD with a good quality of life. I would enjoy playing with a Belgian Malinois and I think they’re beautiful, but it’s just too much stress for me. Maybe if I had an obstacle course in the back yard and one of those machines that throws baseballs really fast. 🤣
Thanks for your review I actually just got a German Shepherd and I’m over the moon excited I thought I wanted a malanois But it’s clear to say that I don’t have the stamina or the time to give her the life that she would need my GSD is perfect
When i run my mal, id use those ball tossers!!! With that tool lets be able to toss it 100meters plus, meaning the dogs ran 200 meters every toss :). 5 tosses, 1 km! 50 tosses 10 km minimum. Easy breezy... But yes, they drive themselves through and past everything!!!! Kayaked with mine for 20k through marsh and rocky terrain and hed own it all!!! My problem with the gsd, is they're a very very watered down breed! A mals about the only dog i know, thatll attack 100% if you or yours are in endangered!!! NO, and i repeat, NO other breed is reliable to do so, including the gsd! Watch the miami dog whisperer...
I think you are wrong, because a Mal can easily adapt to his owner. Of course people who are coach potatoos shouldn't have such a dog. My best friend has a Mal, during the day we both study and he stays with his dad in his shop. He is just an adorable dog, adores kids and other animals. When we finish class we take him for a run and play with his ball on the beach. With us, because we are young, he's energetic, but with my friends dad, he's just an adorable cuddle bear. Extremely smart dogs, who love to learn. And he's still very young.
Had several German Shepherds as a Child. Extremely smart, they're willing to do anything for their owner. I had a very special bond with one especially exceptional animal. "BULLET" and I did everything together. I will forever miss him, his intelligentance and his sense of humor. He was a guard dog, companion and the more you worked with him, the better he got. Someday I'd love to have another, but there'll NEVER be another Bullet! When I lost him, he took a huge piece of me with him! RIP Buddy! Your never forgotten.
@@Broskisunited Thank you. He was an incredible dog and friend. He died of lung cancer; Never smoked a day in his life! Nor did anyone else in the house. I'm blessed to have had him as long as I did.
My German shepard watched us cutting firewood and bringing it back to the truck, and decided he was going to help. He would grab the biggest piece of cut firewood he could and load it into the truck. He can grab surprisingly large pieces of wood. I swear he is camera shy. He knows exactly when I turn it on. He can also tell when the motion sensing camera turns on and off. I think he can hear it. It's pretty incredible. He impresses me every day
When i was only a month old, i was left with friends of my parents for the day in an emergency situation. These friends had a German Shepherd who instinctively knew i was a helpless baby and stood guard by my side the whole day until my parents came to get me. I have always had a special place in my heart for the GSD, and to this day, i can't imagine my life without one❤
My wife and I are on our 2nd German Shepherd. Our first we had to put to sleep because she had cancer of her jawbone. Her name was Sheba. That tore my heart out that day in the vet. I will never be over that. Now we have another German Shepherd at age 2. We got her about one year ago from our neighbor who found her running around on the street in Daytona Beach, Florida. Her name is Mindy. Amazing how each one has their own behaviors and do's and don't.s She is wonderful. She filled that empty hole in my heart. Although not all the way.
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We have a farm here in TX. I have 3 Belgian Malinois and One German Shepherd (Kujo). The German Shepherd acts as the Supervisor while Belgians do all the work and keep an eye on the Farm for security.
My german shepherd has been through a lot before we adopted him. He retired from the police force and the was shoved into a kennel for a hole year, he became so bored that he taught himself to chase his tail and bite it for his own entertainment. Not only that, the black flys chewed up his ear, and he was always picked on by the other dogs. After adopting him, he had soooo much anxiety, the vets told me he was suffering from anxiety and depression and gave me meds to give to him. But I refused them, after a long time of support, love, and care, he is the greatest companion I’ve ever had. So in my eyes, German shepherds will always be the kings 👑 ❤
Good for you. Taking on an older rescue Shep can be dicey. At least you knew a little bit of his background. My youngest was a sort-of rescue. He'd been thru two owners before I got him. Believe this...that dog was a wild animal. Neither family had put in the effort and time to train him. Everybody at our dog park knew that I was looking for a partner for my 7-yr old. They steered her to me. He's a tan Sable, about 3 yrs old. High drive. Huge body but only weighed 88 lbs. You could count every rib by sight and he had diarrhea. I got along with him, but every time I tried to lead him, he snapped at me. Long story short...I've had him 6 mos. He's now fully trained, if a little stubborn and weighs 103 lbs and looks great. Shows what a little time and effort can do. He and my oldest are now inseparable. Bless you, for taking that chance. Neither of these dogs would be alive if we hadn't.
As an ex K9 officer this is correct. German Shepherds rely more on brains and make better family pets. Malinois rely more on athletics. I have observed German Shepherds teach Malinois. I watched Shepherds teach Malinois how to play ball / fetch and tug. I've also witnessed Shepherds when they notice a visitor bark once run to the Malinois and agitate them then sit back and watch the Mali do all the work barking etc. And yes it was hillarious. I always had Shepherds but both are great great dogs. I would pick the Shepherd for the family setting though.
As an owner of 2 GSDs, I agree 100%. Mals are absolutely fearless while a Shep may take a second to think and choose the best course of action. Mals are much more athletic. Any reasonably decent and intelligent owner can learn to handle and train a good GSD. You need to really know what you're doing with a Malinois. They need strong consistent owners. GSDs are a little more forgiving and think thru problems. Which makes them easy to train, generally. Mals can be so independent that they resist being told what to do. That can be overcome by a good training. Family environments can be rough on a Mal. GSDs seem to be able to mellow when appropriate. And Sheps LOVE kids. I love them both, but I don't think I trust my abilities to have a Malinois.
When I was in law enforcement, I worked alongside two handlers and their 110 pound German Shepherds. Wonderful, smart dogs. Never got to pet them once. Against their training, I was told. Unbelievably smart.
We were given a retired K9 German Shepherd by my dad's State Trooper friend. I was 4 years old... it grabbed my cat out my of arms and killed it. Without a word, my dad went in and got our shotgun. Walked the dog behind our barn and dispatched him. I was so young I didn't understand why. But in my golden years, I fully understand.
My service dog is a Belgian, yes he does all the ptsd stuff but that's not his main uses, he is a mobility dog assisting with wheelchair, object retrieval, opening and closing doors, drawers and cabinets, he can turn the lights on and off, and he is a seizure dog he has a button in the house that if I have a seizure or fall he can call an ambulance for me then he would either lay on me to stop the seizing or roll me to the recovery position!
in my opinion, german shepherds are the best dogs on the planet. even with families. once you go with a german shepherd, its hard to ever go with any other breed. they are truly amazing dogs
Amen. I so agree that’s why yesterday we just brought home our second German Shepherd. Our first one is 4 1/2 and we brought home a new puppy, hoping they will be best buds and brothers for life. I’ve had a beagle and a yellow lab who both fit our lifestyle well at that time but now we live on 23 acres and my two GSD are perfect. Super smart fiercely protective of our family. Super fun to play with. They work hard play hard and listen well. ❤
@@ashleygaerke3371 thats awesome. they love the space thats for sure. but they will be good together. i am on my 2nd and 3rd german shepherds, and all three of them have been fantastic
I got my first GSD 2 years ago. I don't know if I could have any other breed after getting him. Affectionate, loyal, protective, goofy, fun, and is the best behaved boy when we take him out in public. I love my boy, and proud to have him in our family.
I have 5, 3 Mal, 2 German. All have proper advanced training and you can't compare learnig speed of belgian with german. Belgian has unmatched intelligence and agility, belgian will learn anything in seconds, with proper instructions ofc.
@@smexosmexy9106 ya i havent spend a lot of time with malinois, but i just know for a family dog that can also be trained german shepherds are amazing. german shepherds can be and are trained to the highest levels for protection work as well, but so are malinois
Ive had 2 Shepherds, 1 female straight back, and 1 male from German bloodlines , both lived longer than most 13, and 12, beautiful dogs, but the male was just an incredible dog, never be another one like him. Lost him in September 2019 , and I miss both of them every day.
@@robertward553 Lol yes both mine had a thing about Squirrels to. But from an early age I taught them to be gentle with my cats, and other small furries, and they actually helped me raise my kittens. Both were show bred dogs, and the female was bred by an old very much respected lady breeder, and I'm sure she would have lived longer if she hadn't got cancer. The male was from German bloodlines, and had the usual health problems, and was operated on at 6 months old for elbow dysplasia. The female was from a non accredited breeder, and the male from an accredited breeder, but she bred from a dog she really shouldn't have bred from. Now i don't trust any Gsd breeders, especially as the lady who bred my female has sadly passed away, she was the only person I would have trusted to get another puppy from.
@@ayushupadhyay007 Your dog looks very like my female straight back, and she looks good. But I wouldn't make her run around on concrete floors as it isn't good for her joints. Much better to exercise her on grass, Woodlands etc. Look after your dog , and she will live to long age, and never leave her outside in the cold, as that is also bad for her health . You have a really lovely dog there.
Spot on, my Malinois needs constant stimulation. He is on all the time. My German Shepherd knows when to be calm. Love them both, German Shepherd thinks, Malinois reacts.
As a family pet, I prefer the German Shepard. They are more predictable, and they have an on and off switch. I had a GS, and she was almost the perfect dog. I've been around BMs. Great dog for what they do, but they are too hyper as a family pet, for my liking.
We have a GS/BM mix and it’s like getting the best of both worlds. He’s extremely intelligent, obedient, playful, athletically gifted, fiercely protective, but also super chill, calm, amazing with our kids, and loving.
We have a Rottweiler/BM mix... She can be a hand full but she's the cutest, most loving, athletic & intelligent dog we've owned yet... I love GS but they are just so dang fury.. Are GS/MB mixes fury?
Yes. Doing hyper athletic tricks isn’t training related it should be a different category. I really think she just wanted to have them end up even. The malinois is very good at specific things but a German Shepherd is much more well rounded. If you are considering things like being a family pet in this than the German Shepherd is the clear winner. If you are talking strictly about military or police work the malinois might have a slight edge but it depends on the exact application.
@@bzebarth Yessss that disappointed me. I thought they were going to look at different jobs like Human remains detection, Drugs and narcotics, hunting/ locating jobs and even service animal etc.. Not to mention that K9 officers live with their parterres at home at the end of the day so family life is a thing to consider also..
Don't know about other countries but the malinois looks like the German shepherd off when I was a kid, lighter in frame. Old type German shepherd in my book, good dogs nonetheless and you can see why they favour them more.
Have had my 1st GSD for 6 months now, always at my side, playful, smart, protective, good with the little ones, and can just cuddle up and chill in the family room.... just amazing dogs
Mine is a 4 month old female GSD , she’s super active and we have to take her energy out through running and playing outside 35 minutes twice a day , otherwise she’ll become us crazy . How’s yours ? Is he super active too ?
Owned both, loved both. My shep was amazing at K9 tasks and a good buddy for recovery work. My Mal is an absolute beast, she can cuddle my 6 month old and a second later jump through a second story window the next minute. I don’t understand the Mal misconceptions, they are wonderful pals and great dogs in general. They really don’t need much more than a regular dog.
They're both great dogs! We have a 9year old GSD and our son, when he got out of the Marines got a Malinois pup. She's now about a year and a half old and she's a sweetie but HIGH ENERGY! Again, both great dogs but the Mali is a younger person's dog...
Never had a mal but have an East German working line GSD and red nose pit. Both incredibly smart and loyal dogs. They team together and help eachother do stuff. Love them to bits.
I bought a Malinois pup from the police, if you don't spend 2 hours wearing him out he will drive you insane. They are impressive if you are obsessed with them. But otherwise don't get one they are on coke 24/7. Do not get that dog, they are crazy if you don't challenge them, insanely intelligent, and will figure out a way to destroy something you care about because you did not give them enough attention. Reminds me of my e now that I think about it.
Mallinois are monsters if you don't give them enough exercise and don't pay them much attention,But they are amazing dogs and in my opinion they are better than GS
I have a GSD and also worked alongside Mals while in the Marine Corps. If I were to chose for myself, GSD. Just a better “family” dog. Does just about everything the Mal does without the “high strung” behavior. Don’t get me wrong, Mals are great. But this is spot on about their CONSTANT need for stimulation.
My German Shepherd plays when we play, sleeps when we sleep, eats when we eat, and gets excited when family visits. She's always ready to sound the 'intruder alert', or play fetch. She's like a furry human. Her strong bark alone is enough to take our home off the easy target list.
Otis is my first GSD. He has had that foghorn bark since he was 3 months old. At 9 months he's already 71 lbs, but he's a love bug. Great with kids. Friendly, but highly alert with strangers. The schedule thing didn't really occur to me, but yes. He wakes when we wake. Sleeps when we sleep. Hangs out with the kids at play time. It's nice. So far, so good.
I had a couple working line Malinois as my first dog-walking clients. I would walk them and pet sit for them when the owners vacationed. They were working lines trained in bite work. Their energy level helped me get really creative about tiring them out techniques I used later with other high-energy breeds on my route. I enjoyed every moment they were my absolute favorites! The best part though was that it led to me finding my personal dog a german shepherd who followed us home on one of our walks. I ended up adopting her after the owner couldn't be found.
I love my GSD...If I had a Malinois I would love it too. I will say this out of experience of having Max (my GSD). He is the closest thing to having a child that I can think of. He has a mind of his own and out smarts me regularly and I absolutely love that. He is absolutely devoted to me and I'm rarely out of his sight and if I am out of his sight he knows where I am.. I honestly love all dogs and I'm privileged to have a GSD who watches over me like nothing I've ever experienced.
Sasha, my German Shepherd Service Dog, is a rescue I found or maybe she found me, is a 115 Sable. We have been together every day for over 5 years now. She can read me like a book, knows when my PTSD is coming on, will even wake me in the night when the nightmare's are getting intense, a protector, friend, companion. I don't believe I could have made it this long without her. She is my 4th German Shepherd I've had in my life but by far the best. Do to circumstances we are having to stay with friends at the present, he is a trainer, has a Belgian Malinois about 3 years old that is just to much for a 60 year old man. When he gets too much Sasha puts his ass in his place. Don't get a Belgian unless you are in great shape, they need a lot of tending to, exercise, and constant attention as a young dog. Though I love Monster and he is just too much for this disabled Ole fellow without Sasha at my side.
I have both, I've had both show me teeth but my German Shepherd wagged his tail after I spoke up, the Mals I've showed me teeth also but I've had to actually use the Ecollor to correct it. I addressed the concerns as a handler but they've caused me not trust them. My German Shepherd has run into guys with guns, knifes, even alone with my young niece someone broke in and the Shepherd protected her, bite the burglar and came back wagging his tail. Love them both, I just can build a better emotional bond with the GSD's and I feel the dog's just show their love back better.
I worked with both in the military. i prefer GSD, but they are both highly intelligent guard dogs. At Point 2, i would give both a 5 out of 5. Both can do crazy stuff and are fearless, and what the GSD lost in agility, he makes up for it in strenght.
that is a gt answer, i have a 6 mnth old dutch shepard,x ive had bull breeds for years , im starting to like the look of the gsd, but i think the malinoia would be to much , thinking along the lines of gsd x dutch shepard,
And in intellect. We had a East German working line GSD. Absolutely in control, strength and thinking. I always say that if humans had half the brain of a GSD, the world would be a better place😂
Having grown up in a military environment (my father was a military officer), at one point my mother worked in the UK Veterinarian Unit, I'm so pleased to see these dogs in the video now given full protective covering which wasn't the case in WWII and later.
We have a pair of GSD and have never taught them to “work”…..but they taught themselves to do things for us around the property and we unknowingly created a “command”. That’s how smart these dogs are. Example>>We had mice In our barn. One day I was walking out there and saw one….I was started so the one dog that came out with me moved so fast, snapped and slung that mouse at my feet. Literally. I was whispering “okay, let’s check it out” more to myself to hype me up to go see what the situation was around the barn 🤣 Now….when we go for a walk if I say “check it out” they go to the edges of everything and look for rodents. I kid u not. I can tap around the bottom of our vehicles and they will search like a drug dog. The male taught the female the next time she was out. Then there’s “what’s that”. If we hear something at night.l.any strange noise they go low on their belly and silent as can be as they look for the offending noise. By the time I catch up, they are sitting beside something that fell off a table etc. if the noise came from outside they are sitting by the door. Silent and waiting for me to let them out to go see “what’s that” lol
Have 2. Smartest dogs I have ever trained. Actually better than Aussie, and way easier. Also best babysitter you could ever ask for, naturally. Anyone’s kids, not just mine.
Have nearly spent a year 24/7 with my GSD because of the Pandemic. If you want a dog that will give unconditional positivity, love and loyalty that will respond instantly to commands, GSD is the ultimate breed. If you put the effort in the reward is AMAZING. This breed is so highly intelligent, you can speak sentences to them and they will understand. They are highly motivated to support and look after their owner, their complex traits will never keep you bored. When in their home environment they are super chilled and relaxed. If you gain a GSD's trust and you are their prime owner you will have a BFF. Do not get this breed unless you have the time, commitment and loyalty. Put your GSD first and they will put you first, the bond will be unbreakable.
Our GSD was off the chart smart. Malinois might be a little faster, but when our GSD ran it was like a bullet and the bite force is about 35lbs more than Malinois, 3lbs more than a Pit Bull! LOYAL off the charts. Don't get near an owner with a GSD because they are super protective. Like you say, they're chill but if danger is near they are on like a light switch. Get a GSD with a SQUARE back so it doesn't have hip problems.
CAN U NOT SEE BOTH F THEM ARE GOOD DOG BREEDS DON'T BE SAYING THERE NOT CAUSE I THINK MALANOIAS ARE BETTER THEN GERMEN SHEPARDS IF UR BORED U SHOULD GET A MALANOIA THERE SO FUN TO PLAY WITH
Amen to that. I just hope that GSD owners and owners of other breeds & dogs keep as commited as they were during the pandemic.. i dont know how it is where u are from, but overhere in Holland, assylums are filled with dogs who are ditched by their owners since june (about the time our govt said everything went back to normal) came along and people had less spare time.. it truly breaks my heart seeing these dog ditched by those who they hold most dear. My adopted stray but especially my GSD is so intuned with my emotions, its insane, i think its fair to say that they (apart from my girlfriend (maybe)) are my most valuable support
I had never heard of the BELGIAN MALINOIS before but learning about their different traits was very helpful. I loved the categories that were chosen and agree they are "both the winners that they should be."
Did it make anyone else a little mad that they didn't use any good clips for the German Shepherds, and that half the clips they use for Malinois were German Shepherds. Or am I the only one that noticed?
Having been exposed to MWDs in the Navy, I asked out of curiosity why the Maligator was preferred by the SEAL teams. The handlers told me their primary reasons for switching to BMs were weight and genetics. Weight is self-explanatory, while the genetics said is due to the medical issues Shepherds develop in life that BMs are fortunate to not develop, such as the notorious hip dysplasia. They love both dogs, but the BMs aggressiveness also won out. While deployed, there was one BM who entered the TOC regularly. She would walk around to each person and would stay next to that person until they petted her. Once she got a quick pet, she moved on to the next person, until she met every single individual. Alternatively, the other BM in our compound had to stay inside a crate with a blanket covering it, because he hated everyone but his handler, and if he saw someone walking by his crate, he would turn into the Tasmanian Devil trying to attack the person. He wasn't trained any differently from the other BM, it was just his personality. Once he was paired with someone, that handler became his all, and anyone else became the enemy. Interestingly, he never tried to attack me when I happened near his crate, even when the blanket happened to be off at the time. The handlers did take notice, but we never ventured into why. My luck, he was probably trying to lure me closer with false peace, just to scare me. I never dared venture close. Haha
The Belgian can have the same hip issues as the German. All dogs have hip dysplasia and reputation for the German is due to poor breading choices as the low rear was seen desirable in the show ring.
The Malinois is experiencing such a hype nowadays that many people of very poor character long to have a Malinois for the wrong reasons. I don't think that the healthy breeding can provide as many Malis as are asked for. So either some of the not so good Mali breeders have more litters than is healthy, or wild puppy mills provide all the puppies people want to buy for little money. For the Malinois I hope that the breeders don't give in, because the genetic pool would be minimized over time. Another problem are weak handlers that want a Mali for he wrong reasons and have no fundamental knowledge of dog, working dogs, or Malinois. And puppies from puppy mills in the hands of poor handlers is a catastrophe. A few hours ago I watched some videos of a young woman, who claimed she had to "wash out" her Malinois service dog, who of course was badly raised by her and meanwhile she started "protection training" in some kind of barn with the help of a woman, who seems like a member of the woke cult. The young women of course got another Malinois, who she claims to have trained as her service dog. Both her dogs never even learned the slightest obedience and of course never had either one of the dogs tested as service dog. I my opinion both dogs are fake service dogs and she isn't able to care properly for a single dog, let alone two Malinois, which she couldn't have gotten from a serious Mali breeder. I am raising a Rottweiler again to train him as my personal PTSD service dog. I already had a Rottweiler as my service dog, who sadly died on April 29th in 2023. I have had working dogs all my life. I grew up with Rottweilers, later had Rottweilers and American Bulldogs and one Australian Cattle Dog. I used to breed American Bulldogs in Germany for more than a decade, trained working dogs for more than three decades, was a working dog handler and also resocialized shelter dogs, etc. So I have some years of experience with Rottweilers, yet I still do hybrid training of course. I have an experienced trainer specialized in training service dogs as support for those areas I can't train by myself due to PTSD. I also have the dog sports club in my town as support, where also police dogs are being trained, and I primarily do obedience. With my late Rottweiler Lodur I also did nosework and Treibball. With the current puppy I might go for IGP, which we call Vielseitigkeit in German. I can't believe that people with no knowledge of dogs and IGP training at all are able to perfectly handle such a strong breed like a Malinois. And they obviously don't. They can't handle a Malinois and then label him "washed out". They then get another Mali and go to some barn trainer to go on with the nonsense. I wouldn't have a Malinois because of the sane reasons you mentioned. It would be possible probably, but I wouldn't want all that stress. I rather have some fun with a Rottweiler as I don't socialize otherwise, so the dog sport club is my luxury and fun. I recommended that woman to turn to Nate Schoemer for help to find a trainer to help out. I guess she won't take my advice. So I just hope that her bad decisions don't cost anybody's life, because she will probably keep on getting Malis whenever she labels one as "washed out". The USA really must do something about official certification for service dogs, or else bad people will constantly come up with fake service dogs that end up in shelters so others may take care of them. 😢😭
@@lisasternenkind6467 ma'am, I'm not sure what you were trying to imply here. My previous Service Dog was a Lab. A Malinois would be too much for me due to my disabilities, plus I'm not patient enough to train a dog myself. So, I must rely on Service Dog organizations, and the constant long waiting for approval to be paired with a Dog. My Service Dog passed away in 2020 due to cancer, and I have waited to get another. Now I am searching for a good organization. I have been researching a group who trains rescued Pits as PTSD Service Dogs for vets. I may go with them, because I have a friend who got a PTSD Service Dog for herself and has been teaching her Dog additional commands needed for her disabilities. I am 100% disabled, and need more than just a PTSD Dog, but PTSD is one of my most serious disabilities, so it would greatly benefit me to have him/her to assist me. My previous Service Dog lived to age 12, kind of rare for a pure Lab. Because of him, I met many celebrities and other famous people. I would often say he met them, and I was just along for the ride. 😁 Because of the job I had at the time, the security officers gave him a badge like mine, and it had my security clearance on it. So my Service Dog, who spent his first two years in a New York state prison, was then given one of the highest security clearances in the nation. 😁
I’ve worked with both dogs while in Army SOF. Both are outstanding but, the drive and versatility of the Malinois made them superior to the GSD. Great content.
As an ex USAF K-9 handler, trying to lift a 100 lb+ GSD for drug detection work in a mail room was rough. I guess now, they use smaller breeds that you can lift for sniffing. We didn't have those options back in the day.
Also a former K9 Police handler for 14 years. I loved my GSD'S. Loyal hardworking and family friendly. I must say i havent had the opportunity to work with a Mal but i wont deny as a working dog it would be a pleasure to work with it. Personal pref would be the GSD.
I spoke with a police K9 handler about this a few months ago. He said Malinois may be good for the Military and for purposes where their athleticism is required, however he said that GS have a much more stable character and self-control, which makes them easier to have on patrols around people. Also he said that good service dogs (in the police) are expected to achieve some degree of autonomous judgement and situational assessment capacity, although in a very controlled and predefined way. He thinks GSD are best at just that, because they were principally bred for just that trait.
In the avatar I use is Abby, my Malinois. Man, she was an amazing Dog. Absolutely the best friend and the best dog I’ve ever had. She saved my life twice, and really helped me deal with my PTSD. I called her my Grass Missile, good God she was fast.
I have had both shepards and Mals. My current is a Mal. I wouldn't trade her for anything. But all my dogs have been excellent. I been blessed with all 4 legged friends that I have had in my life.
Belgian Malinois are very good working dogs but German Shepherds dominate them in a family setting. Those dogs are incredibly smart and loyal. I had a German Shepherd once, once my dog was whining because we were all playing on this thing you hang on. Turns out she was warning us and not so long after it collapsed. Basically our dog saved us. And German shepherds can be very laid back also. Sometimes Kida would just rest when we are home but when we are outside she would be very energetic. But in 2020 she died to Leukemia. RIP Kida.
I have a now almost 11 month old female Belgian Malinois. I got lucky with her! I run a few miles 3-4 days out of the week and she stays by my side were ever I go with no leash, I did not teach her to stay on my left side at all times. She is the best well rounded dog i have ever had, If i want to chill and lay around all day she will, If I want to go for a 6-8 mile run, she's down. smart, loyal, good size. Give them love and positive reinforcement and they will run into a fire for you.
@@primalcritters Sorry, but anyone who says a trained 60-75 lb Mal isn't a "man stopper" doesn't know what he's talking about. I've handled both Mals and GSDs in both combat and protection details,, and I guarantee you that either would take you down instantly with minimal effort..
@@samroney6644 yes those Malinois are often but not always mixed. The vast majority of knpv Malinois, military and police line Malinois are mixed. They may look like a Malinois but they are mixed German Shepherd, Dutch Shepherd, Great Dane and even Pitbul. It takes years of selective breeding to accomplish this and they breed them back to dutchies or Malinois so that they look like a Malinois or Jesse but they usually have slightly larger heads, and are larger in general. Of course there are also purebred Dutch Shepherds and Malinois working but I'm simply pointing out that some breeders increase diversity and performance this way. Some enthusiasts get very upset when I bring this up but I will always point to the fact that there are some bicolor Malinois being bred. Bicolor does not come from the Mal, it comes from the German Shepherd. For the record I prefer the genetic diversity in working dogs. Thank you for your service.
@@primalcritters They're not mixed. They just are not bred for "show line' characteristics. That doesn't mean they're mixed. Working line mals are all mal, not mongrels. Either you misunderstood or your breeder friend doesn't know what he's talking about in regard to working line mals. My experience with them is first hand, not second hand from some guy who favors show lines. Mals were originally developed from crossing several breeds to guard. Show lines began, later, breeding for specific characteristics conducive to show & household pet situations and breeding out some characteristics of working lines, while breeders of working lines continued breeding for characteristics of working dogs. Your puppy mill buddy is ignorant and biased to make his derivative pet/show line sound like its closer to the original malinois, when in fact the opposite is true. A trained 100% Mal from working lines would make short work of a grown man.
@@samroney6644 I understand that a purebred Mal even a small one can take down a man when trained. I'm simply pointing out that x Malinois can have Dutch Shepherd, a little GSD and sometimes pit. What's the big deal? Genetic diversity. I'm just pointing out facts.
For a legitimate working dog, the mal is going to be better almost every time. For a pet, the GSD is the best dog there is. They’re smart, loyal, trainable, generally friendly, and have the ability to “turn it off” when it’s time to chill out. Even a GSD is on the higher end of the spectrum for dogs that need stimulation, the Malinois is way more than almost anyone outside professionals can handle
I really appreciate you emphasizing raising animals with -kindness-. I had two experiences with two different German Shepherds in my childhood. One had been abused as a puppy (I didn't know this until after the incident) before my friend's family got him (I think. They didn't abuse him in any case). I gave him a hug (a very light, casual one) in passing and he tried to eat my face off. I've never owned a dog and I was very young when it happened, but I never blamed Taco. Even at that age I remember feeling that he did it because I'd done something wrong with hugging him. I still feel bad because they ended up giving him to a friend of theirs who lived out by a lake. Honestly, Taco might have been happier there, but I felt bad that my friend had to be without him. Anyway, the other was a dainty girl GS named Champagne who lived up the street from me. For about a week, she would trot alongside my bike to school and then she'd be sitting across the street when school let out and "walked" me home. Until the last day she did it, she didn't stay across the street but came all the way into the school with me and wouldn't leave my side. I have no idea why. My 4th grade math teacher Mrs. Jenkins even yelled at me about having my dog at school. Champagne sat outside the classroom door and no matter how much I protested that she wasn't my dog and I didn't know why she was sticking to me like that, I got in big trouble lol I tried to tell her to go home, but she just seemed really anxious and whined and kept pressed against my leg. Which went a long way to convincing my teachers she wasn't mine lol I don't know what was going on and I think about it often. I didn't even care about getting in trouble because deep down I felt kind of special. Also weirded out, but special. She walked me to all my classes that day (ours was an outside school in Arizona) and then walked me home. But she never did it again. Wish I knew what it was all about. Sorry for rambling on so long.
more to do with breeding. American show lines and just American lines are bigger, Czech and W.German lines are leaner with a straight back. Tend to have less problems
I'd rather have a GSD. I'm sure the Malinois is an great dog, but they fall in the category with the Border Collie in my book, just to much dog for regular life.
@@cesar-lf1jw border collie and Belgians are just so high energy and intelligent, that they can be pretty overwhelming and high maintenance. Kind of a lot for the average person who just wants a companion
I adopted a Malinois from the shelter to train as a medical alert service animal. She does not have the typical traits of a Malinois though. Inside the house she's calm and napping 90 percent of the time. When she sees me grab the leash she knows it's time to go outside and play and that's when goes full crackhead like you expect from a Malinois.
@@jaleris She's not always chill lol. Inside she's chill, however try and walk up behind me and reach for me or be in my yard uninvited and it's going to be a bad day.
Backyard bred mals often have shepherd or mastiff mixed in a ways back to make larger, more laid back dogs with the mal look that can be sold to more of the general public. Any solid black ones are mixed, mals don't naturally come is solid black.
My Malinois is the smartest and most interesting pet I’ve ever had. But requires so much attention and stimulation. Luckily we have a large yard for him to get plenty of exercise in and I spend hours and hours outside exercising and bonding with him. Truly an amazing dog, goofy during play and downtime but a serious guard dog. As much as I love him and would definitely get a malinois again; I wouldn’t qualify him as a good pet as he can chew almost anything and will do so it left unattended and unexercised 😅
Like most of the others I've had the opportunity to work with both, but find myself gravitating to the GSD for both working dog and pet. And while the size is an absolute agility asset for the Mals, the size is likely a greater asset for civilian protection pets. My current 9 mos old GSD Male is likely to land around the size of his father's 115lbs. Having owned both M and F GSDs I would suggest F's for those with smaller house, yard and car and M's for those with large house, yard and truck for transporting regularly. A fit female in the 75lb range is much easier to travel with than a large fit M in the 110-120lb range. And "bad guys" are going to see the F as dangerous, perceived nearly as big as the M unless they see them side by side. The only other caution, most pets do NOT need to be trained to do bite work. They will INSTINCTILVELY do whatever it takes to protect their pack.
I agree with German shepherds not needing to do bite work. My 2 GSD would scare off any intruder just with their barks. Amazing alert dogs. They’re wonderful with our children and always protective of our property and home. Yet, have some tennis balls and they don’t even notice the other dogs at the dog park. 😂
My GSDs father weighed in at 120 pounds so I'm looking forward to seeing him balloon to 110 plus. He is already wearing large collars at six months old. I feel sorry for anyone who decides they want to test him once he's fully grown lol.
My GSD is the most calm, relaxed and beautiful dog at home, but when the lead goes on, she is "on". Very alert and observant when on a walk, but calm when confronted by aggressive dogs. She stares them down into submission and its a treat to watch. GSDs for me.
On my third German Shepherd, the best breed, easy to train, Great family dogs and guard dogs, you still need to be active with a German Shepherd, agree with the scoring on this one, my recent one, female 3 years old now, Czech working line, looks very intimidating, but a real fluff ball 😂
And I would also like to add that HEALTH should be a category in the scoring, because malionois have a lot less health issues compared to the average german shepherd.
@@greghight954 But what if it takes the "bad" from both sides inestead of the good ? So you ended up with a super heavy, super demanding and very unhealthy dog?
@@JP-xd6fm lol. I guess I got lucky. I think it's probably healthier genetically though as inbreeding is what has caused so much of the issues. I just have to throw the toy all evening while watching TV because he constantly brings them to me then stares intensely at me until I throw.
Both are well respected breeds. I just think Malinois are just on another level. I have so much respect for these dogs. Our Mal is the best dog I have owned.
My 7 yo GSD is happy with 20-30 min of fetch each day and a few walks per week. I am a therapist, so she gets to go to the office with me 3-4 times a week as well. My clients love her!❤
I own a Mallinois, we call her a malligator she is an amazing family dog and protects us with her life! I used to think that a GS is the best dog until I met the mallinois!
First pup we had is a Mal, sweetest thing ever just need to spend time to play exercise and train them like any pup dont get one if you cant dedicate the time they deserve 🤷🏽♂️
I have owned GSD's in the past. I love the breed. The last one I had almost made it to 13. I still love and miss him. I will bring up a point that I don't think has been discussed in either this video or the comments. I was at a pet expo a fews years back and watched an exhibition by a LEO with his Belgian Malinois. He told me that canine units in both law enforcement and the military are beginning to prefer the Belgian over the GSD because they can get more years of active service out of the former. Because of their lighter frame, they can serve longer before having to be retired: more bang for the buck, in a sense. Now, I do not know if this is indeed the case. I am simply sharing what I was told.
One of the many reasons Mals/Dutchies are preferred over GSD. Though they get mixed all the time now too. Frankly, I have found purebred GSD to be inferior for almost everything except for cold weather tolerance and maybe defensive drive. Longevity, athleticism, and intensity I'll take a Mal/Dutch 90+% of the time.
I once had a home invasion and decided to acquire 2 Belgian Malinois. I owned 4 Belgian Malinois and it was the BEST investment I’ve ever made. They’re amazing dogs who are always WORKING. They guard the house like nobody’s business. Needless to say, we never had another home invasion ever again!! 😂
I love these two intelligent, fearless and adorable dogs. I own a Belgian Malinois before and right now I own a German Shepherd and they are both best dogs.
GS is by far the better for family situations. Pity "breeders" have ruined them over the past few decades. BM has the high drive needed for a service dog. As for border collies, l kept them for 35 years, they were all worked and were a delight, its another breed that, like a BM is too wired for family life. I use Labs now for shooting work, frankly, it is one of the finest "all-round" breeds as long as you don't need an attack dog lol. They will still bark and guard property. Having a "wired" dog in the UK is a minefield should it bite. A friends GS guarding her stables once bit a scrote intent on stealing tack. She was almost charged with possession of a dangerous dog, luckily the CPS saw sense and let it drop, not after an anxious few months. Buy the dog that is best suited to your lifestyle, all dogs deserve a good life and a happy existence.
I was gifted a puppy seven months ago whose mother was a full blooded American Pitbull and father was a mystery. I have struggled to understand why the destruction and the constant need for attention and many, many other things are so prevalent in this dog. A week ago my cousin sent me a link to a video about Belgian Malinous. We have made more progress in the last seven days than the last seven months. He is not for a first time owner definitely. I love my Malibull. He is a perfect natural guardian but they are a full time job. By far he is the most incredible animal I have ever seen. Strength, Speed, Intelligence and full of love and affection. I don't think the man has any Idea what he gave me.
I have one of each. I can see how one could be advocated for more over the other. However, I have to go with my Shepherd because they were bred to herd, police and protect. Policing the livestock to keep it in grazing areas in open pastures back in the day in Alsace required decision making and this comes through in working lines. When you see it in action it's pretty amazing. Our Mali is like a small Shepherd on acid with a 'banzai' approach lol If she comes at you at full force then you may get knocked off your feet but if you are 6ft 4 and weigh 220lbs and are high off your face then that isn't happening. If my Shepherd hits that person at full pelt, they are going down. Most family protection dog trainers use Mali's very rarely because their off switch is harder to locate.
Our belgian malinois is just perfect for us. He likes challenges and is very active and protective. He is so cuddly and loves to sleep on our lap, that we sometime wonder if he is not a fake malinois.
I would want a Belgian Malinois alongside me in military service. Simply an all-around dog that can handle any extreme combat situation. At home, I want a GSD, they’re awesome pets with a sweet temperament that will literally die for you. Both great working dogs!
Yes, I'd probably choose the GSD also. The only reason I would lean towards the Malinois would be health, they are a much much much healthier breed. Maybe if you could get a calm enough show line Malinois they would be great.
In the US, the average malinois is WAY healthier than the average GSD. Particularly show lines. Now if you get into working lines, GSD get much healthier.
@@romeliaanddixie Well, I don't think that the German Shepherds here in Germany are much healthier. If we would still have the variant from over 100 years ago, then it would be undoubtedly superior in health. Many breeds have changed over the decades or centuries and a lot of them got worse in terms of health. Mostly because of looks. Edit: Okay, we still have lines with straight backs here. I don't know if they're the majority here in Germany.
I'm bias.... Malinois are great. I've had mine get the cops called on him because the caller thought I had a wolf. He's protected me many times. I've had off leash dogs try to attack us but he's put them in their place. He likes walking 7 miles to go see his Pitbull friend. At home he hangs out with his family, a pitbull, a cat, 2 macaws, 1 parakeet, and 3 chickens.
I love both breeds, but I feel that the Malinois's energy levels have been underestimated as a barrier to it being a family dog. I grew up next to a house with an understimulated Malinois and GSD, as the former was far more of a problem - we had a Boxer and Collie-X and the Malinois was a real liability. Even at an old age, it was constantly scaling the barrier fence and trying to fight our dogs to get its necessary stimulus. I'm sure if there were young kids around, it would have snapped at them. I love the breed and have a X at the moment, but the Malinois should get at least a 3/5 as a family dog because of how dangerous and unstable it becomes when understimulated.
and that's why i hope it will not became a "fashion dog" as the german shepherd. it' better that a dog like this remain a work dog. not as gs that it's ruined by the breeders.
I have an aging german/aussie mix and got what I thought was a 1yr old GSD mix from a rescue... After watching this and seeing the comments I think it is a Malinois mix. First day jumped the fence my dog just does not (she can) when I had to work that week i would come home at lunch to let them outside and I became a Minimalist without wanting to, everything was broken/chewed. More than I expected. I added height to my fence and luckily it is not as solid so he cannot trust it to climb over. He also has begun pulling the fluff out of of both dog beds. I must say I am super thankful for the young pitty next door they love to run up and down the fence with each other.
Not at all. When I think about hard dog I think of a serious no-nonsense dog that you cannot screw around with. Both breeds have personalities like that for sure. Incidentally, I find Malinois to be the contrary. They are generally extremely sweet and affectionate so no, not hard at all. A hard dog is basically a serious dog in the sense that they will not take any crap from anybody. What the Malinois has is a higher Drive. What that means is that it wants to play with its ball all day everyday 24/7. Basically it wants to go go go 24/7. That does not mean hard, that is simply an energy level. In terms of work, both breeds can do the same things except at the Malinois is smaller less stocky and more agile. Also, it does not have the same kind of off switch that the GSD has. It wants to go go go go go. More Speedy Gonzales Style. Just wanted to clarify because there's a lot of misconceptions from people that have not owned either, or have only owned one and think they're an expert. People best explain it that the Malinois reacts and the GSD thinks. The GSD does not have the same level of neurotic tendency. In fact, they've actually found a gene in the Malinois that does not exist in the German Shepherd for neurosis. This is why they excel at work, because they are obsessive-compulsive about whatever task they have to do. Some German Shepherds are definitely bred with these qualities but as a general rule of thumb, it's purely a numbers game. There are far more gsd's bread for both show and work where is the majority of Malinois are only bred for work so far. They are starting to breed more showline Malinois So eventually the breeds might even out but as for now, Malinois tend to be more hyper. This has nothing to do with being tough. There are plenty of very tough dogs just like the Malinois including the German Shepherd. But the Mal is unique in that it is both agile and extremely hyper. Also something to note is that all of the military and police Malinois are mutts. Because the Malinois is generally a much leaner and smaller breed in the German Shepherd, they mix them with working line German shepherd, pitbull, Great Dane, and Dutch Shepherd to give them a little bit more size umph for the work that needs to be done. A purebred Malinois will get very small even down to 40lbs. I've owned both breeds and I've experienced others dogs as well not just a single Malinois and German Shepherd
@@primalcritters that was an excellent explanation of the difference between the two breeds you have obviously worked or had experience with both as have I. If I worked every day with a dog I would have had several BM’s in my life by now. I’ve worked at helping train them being an agitator so I’ve certainly learned to respect and even love them but circumstances have not allowed me to have a dog with their constant energy and drive. That being the case I’m now on my 8th GSD and have trained several of them to do rescue and avalanche rescue work. The fact that they can chill out and instinctively seem to know what energy level is appropriate for any given situation just made them more appropriate for my life. I love them as they are as much family to me as any of the human beings I share my life with. Thank you for your excellent explanation of the differences as this thread was definitely in need of it!
Mine is a 50/50 GSD/Mal mix. A 65lb all around good-boy! He has the Malinois play intensity but can be pretty chill when he needs to be. He gets super intense when the ball comes out though!!!
From experience I prefer the German Shepherd over the malinios because if you do get a working line German Shepherd that was bred to breed standards they should be 70-88 pounds. My dog for example is 70 pounds with the build of a malinios except much more muscular and he’s almost fully grown. They definitely don’t have the same level of drive as the malinios but it just makes them more adaptable to different situations. Also they have slightly longer coats which make them a little more resistant to colder climates in my opinion.
A friend of mine had trained dogs for military applications. Regarding German Shepards, they are larger, suffer more from hip displaysia. He found that German Shepherds who serves in combat, when they are taken out from service, he found many suffered from PTSD, turn nuts, have to be put down. The Malanois, don't have much of the hip displaysia problems, didn't have the PTSD problems like the Shepherds.
Our male GSD "Cooper" just turned a year old and is already 98lbs. Loving, insanely smart and protective (especially of the wifey). I would not call him agile though lol. He's a big clumsy oaf with a tail that could knock over the sears tower. He's still growing into his body so I'm sure that will change but he is family and is treated as such. He was gifted to us from my sister-in-law (who is a GSD freak) after about 3 years of not having a dog. Our last pupper was a chow/sheperd mix and when we lost her it was really, really tough on all of us. But SuperCoop was the best gift anyone has ever gotten, us.. EVER.
I used to have a female German Shepard. One day i was on a walk with my step dad to go check out these abandoned cars I found in a ravine. And as we stopped to start a little campfire and cook hotdogs I hear something running off in the distance. Turns out my dog got free from the house and tracked me 3 1/2 miles away down in this ravine. She was such a good girl... RIP Bailey.
What I find annoying is if you look the early german shepherds they looked a lot like the Belgian malinois does now. The backyard breeders have been beefing them up on size for years saying I have a huge german shepherd thinking bigger is better. And then the show breeders with their awful slanted backs. But it's not all about looks as the show and backyard breeders haven't maintained the the tru temperament and strength of nerves either. Max von Stephanitz.. The most striking features of the correctly bred German Shepherds are firmness of nerves, attentiveness, unshockability, tractability, watchfulness, reliability and incorruptibility together with courage, fighting tenacity and hardness.
Yes, it is sad. In this comparison, GSD gonna lose one more point on "health". It is a miracle over-breeding did not destroy their steady temperament. It is a great breed in DNA.
I was living in Germany, bought a German Shepherd who turned out to be 105 pounds of solid muscle, his son (bred by very nice AKC) turned into 115 pounds of muscle. I found the GSDs in Germany larger and with less health issues. They breed them for work there, we didn't see any as just pets. My current two are 100% American, one rather large at about 95 (though I think he could lose 5 pounds) and the other a lean 75. Both smart, both trained, but the import lines I had were just better somehow, more self confident.
@@valeriedemello1794 😳omg !! That’s a huge GSD !!! Did they have shutzund ( I know I spelled that wrong ) training since they were from Germany ? I have a 70 lb female . She was the most active dog I’ve ever had , but she’s 12 yrs old now and her hips are going ! It’s very sad . Taking her to a rehab next week to see what can be done .
I would love to think I could keep up with a Malanois. However, my GSD is the perfect mix of temperament and work/guard capabilities. GSDs are a shedder and should be renamed German Shedder. Good review!
The warfare changed a lot. WW1 & WW2 were direct man-to-man combats, where German Shepherd's calmness, mass & biting power had a great advantage. Today, combat is done from a long distance; manned forces are reduced to small teams of specials, who travel light, do quick operations, avoid direct confrontation; there Mallinois fits better.
That's a very interesting observation. And I think you're dead on. I've always considered the Belgians the Special Forces of working dogs. There's literally nothing they can't do. But the owner needs to be as well trained as the dog is.
Both are amazing breeds. I will stick with my GSD though because I can't give the Mal everything he will need energy wise. The Mals are amazing to watch though.
Dear AW: I have always enjoyed your podcasts, but this highly informative, well-supported, and easily understandable comparison of these two similar but different breeds takes you to the Head of the Class. Kudos for this fantastic video.
As much as I love the German shepherd, I must say base on experience that the Belgian malinois are way more easier to train when it comes to combat training, they're so prey driven and very2x athletic
That's the appeal of the Malinios. They haven't been corrupted too much by world popularity like the GSD. It's cheaper and more easy to find a good Mal for working than a Good GSD for working. At one point, both the GSD and Mal were similar in drive, build and temeperment. They were both created around the same time as well, in the late 1800s. The problem is the GSD gain quick and massive popularity as the "German police wolf" thanks to world war 1 and 2. The Malionis, being Belgian, was far less noticed.
@@christian_urocar I just can't believe what an ignorant comment. You must know nothing about working dogs if you can't concede that the German Shepherd has been the most popular dog in the world in both working sport and as a family pet for decades and decades after the world wars. That kind of popularity will inevitably cause its demise. Perhaps you heard about the recent controversy with the roach back German Shepherds and showline breeders breeding deformed Shepherds? At the rate we're going at, the Malinois will have the same destiny. Only it won't actually, because it's not as versatile enough of a dog. Too nervy.
As a dog trainer with thirty-four years experience, these are two of three breeds that are tied for first place on my favorite breeds list. The third is the Dutch Shepherd, and I have one of each. Like she said, the Mals & GSD's are tied, one is a little better at some things, and not quite as good at others. Mal is Sch111 and came from the KNPV, GSD is DDR w/Sch111, and my Dutchie is also a KNPV dog with a Sch 11 & FR11. PLEASE do your research before getting any one of these. I always say "You have to be smarter than the dog." But unfortunately, when it comes to these breeds, many people aren't. Best breeds in the world, but they take A LOT of work, and then A LOT of maintenance. On a side note, I really like her videos.
I've had GSDs since I was a kid, trained a few myself and trained a friends malinois when I was younger. The malinois never got enough exercise or training other than when I was around and they always laughed that their dog listened to me more than them, even though they had a shock collar on it (which I despised). Ever since then, I've realized that just because you like dogs doesn't mean you are good at being an owner. Two days ago I adopted a 6 year old malinois to join my 10 year old GSD and even though she's older I'm amazed by her energy at 6 years! I'm curious what sch111/DDR/FR11 is referencing? I've never heard of it before and I'm interested to learn more. A quick google search doesn't do much, so if you have a good link or resource that would be awesome!
@@zander7513 SCH is an abbreviation for Schutzhund, a German word meaning "Protection Dog". Schutzhund is a dog sport comprised of tracking, bitework, & obedience. It was originally created by the creator of the German Shepherd, Captain Max von Stephanitz, as a test to find dogs suitable for work and breeding. There are three levels, 1, 2, & 3, with two being harder than one, and three being the most difficult. DDR is an acronym of Deutsche Demokratische Republik, or in English, German Democratic Republic, the official name of former communist East Germany. Current DDR German Shepherds are the descendents of the old German border patrol dogs used by police & military. They were bred for health and working ability only and are considered a "type" of German Shepherd. Some other types are West German working lines, West German show lines, American show lines, Czech working lines, and there are a few others. KNPV is short for Koninklijke Nederlandse Politiehond Vereniging, or Royal Dutch Police Dog Association. It is similar to Schutzhund in that it is used to help find high quality dogs for police K-9 that are highly trainable with great working ability. FR is short for French Ring Sport, and similar to Schutzhund & KNPV is a dog sport with three levels. One way they differ, is that FR does not have any tracking, but instead has an obstacle course, and KNPV replaces the tracking portion with longer and more complicated bitework. Some people do these as a fun sport to do with their dogs on the weekends, while others use these to help find the best working K-9's & personal protection dogs. BUT, none of these are complete, and were created as tests. Therefore, a title is great, but it only means that the dog should be capable of real work. Any police, military, or personal protection dog will still need more training before it is able to fulfill its role as a working dog. If you Google any of these names now you should be able to pull up a ton of information. Enjoy your research, and remember, if your dogs have what it takes (and many do not, just like not everyone can play in the NFL) it's never too late to start! Look up "Schutzhund (also called IPO and now IGP) Clubs near me" and if you find one, give them a call, or better yet go watch them train for a few hours to see if it's something you may possibly be interested in!
As a retired US Army Military Police Veteran, I can definitely say that I prefer the German Shepherd Dog (GSD). I might prefer the Belgian Malinois if I was an active Green Beret/Navy Seal, but I’m not. The GSD is much more practical for the vast majority of people, including myself. The Belgian Malinois is awesome, and does some amazing work, but it’s simply more than I need. I usually play with my two GSDs every day. I throw the ball for them, run around with them, act silly, jump, and entertain them, and they love it. But I probably couldn’t give the Belgian Malinois the life it really deserves. My GSDs are happy and I can walk them and lay on the couch with them and they chill with me while I watch Animal Watch lol. A Belgian Malinois would put me in a retirement home.
Well said. I wud say same myself. The gsd is more for everyone and the beliguim is more specialized and I wud never be able to fulfill its needs in my daily routine. Plus Belgium's I've heard tend to be healthier
@@williamfernandini967 Yeah both are spectacular dogs. The GSD is just much simpler to care for and it is easier to provide the GSD with a good quality of life. I would enjoy playing with a Belgian Malinois and I think they’re beautiful, but it’s just too much stress for me. Maybe if I had an obstacle course in the back yard and one of those machines that throws baseballs really fast. 🤣
Thanks for your review I actually just got a German Shepherd and I’m over the moon excited
I thought I wanted a malanois
But it’s clear to say that I don’t have the stamina or the time to give her the life that she would need
my GSD is perfect
When i run my mal, id use those ball tossers!!! With that tool lets be able to toss it 100meters plus, meaning the dogs ran 200 meters every toss :). 5 tosses, 1 km! 50 tosses 10 km minimum. Easy breezy... But yes, they drive themselves through and past everything!!!! Kayaked with mine for 20k through marsh and rocky terrain and hed own it all!!!
My problem with the gsd, is they're a very very watered down breed!
A mals about the only dog i know, thatll attack 100% if you or yours are in endangered!!! NO, and i repeat, NO other breed is reliable to do so, including the gsd! Watch the miami dog whisperer...
I think you are wrong, because a Mal can easily adapt to his owner. Of course people who are coach potatoos shouldn't have such a dog. My best friend has a Mal, during the day we both study and he stays with his dad in his shop. He is just an adorable dog, adores kids and other animals. When we finish class we take him for a run and play with his ball on the beach. With us, because we are young, he's energetic, but with my friends dad, he's just an adorable cuddle bear. Extremely smart dogs, who love to learn. And he's still very young.
Had several German Shepherds as a Child. Extremely smart, they're willing to do anything for their owner. I had a very special bond with one especially exceptional animal. "BULLET" and I did everything together. I will forever miss him, his intelligentance and his sense of humor. He was a guard dog, companion and the more you worked with him, the better he got. Someday I'd love to have another, but there'll NEVER be another Bullet! When I lost him, he took a huge piece of me with him! RIP Buddy! Your never forgotten.
RIP Bullet, I had a German Shepherd that died to blood cancer
@@Broskisunited Thank you. He was an incredible dog and friend. He died of lung cancer; Never smoked a day in his life! Nor did anyone else in the house. I'm blessed to have had him as long as I did.
I felt the same about my GSD Rhaegar. He was taken far too soon due to stomach cancer. He was only 7 . Miss him every day.
RIP Bullet! You'll see him again. I just aquired a male GSD in addition to my PC's. Very cool breed.
@@ErnestoBoots They're so smart! Make everything à learning experience backed with lots of praise, love and of course treats!
My German shepard watched us cutting firewood and bringing it back to the truck, and decided he was going to help. He would grab the biggest piece of cut firewood he could and load it into the truck. He can grab surprisingly large pieces of wood. I swear he is camera shy. He knows exactly when I turn it on. He can also tell when the motion sensing camera turns on and off. I think he can hear it. It's pretty incredible. He impresses me every day
Ryu. I know what you mean.😘👍" fascinating dogs to watch...
My gsd hust helped me bring wood in
What a good boy! Thank you for posting this.
Haha mine hates cameras too! How do they know?! 😂
Mine saw me dig post holes and tried to help. He thought I needed holes all over the yard. Had to stop that ASAP.
When i was only a month old, i was left with friends of my parents for the day in an emergency situation. These friends had a German Shepherd who instinctively knew i was a helpless baby and stood guard by my side the whole day until my parents came to get me. I have always had a special place in my heart for the GSD, and to this day, i can't imagine my life without one❤
I agree with you completely.
My wife and I are on our 2nd German Shepherd.
Our first we had to put to sleep because she had cancer of her jawbone. Her name was Sheba.
That tore my heart out that day in the vet.
I will never be over that.
Now we have another German Shepherd at age 2.
We got her about one year ago from our neighbor who found her running around on the street in Daytona Beach, Florida.
Her name is Mindy. Amazing how each one has their own behaviors and do's and don't.s
She is wonderful. She filled that empty hole in my heart. Although not all the way.
I do like my husband too
Thank you for your very sweet post about your first Sheperd. I understand the loss of one so very dear. PLEASE LOOK UP DOG FOOD THAT IS ALL NATURAL AND NOT JUST JUNK. NONE OF THE NAME BRANDS...(EVEN THOSE ADVERTISED AS PREMIUM) WILL EVER KEEP OUR PETS HEALTHY. PLEASE FEED YOUR SHEPHERD THE DOG FOOD THAT IS WITHOUT FILLERS, PRESERVATIVES, AND ALL KINDS OF DIGGUSTING ANIMALS PARTS. DO YOUR RESEARCH AND ORDER THE HEALTHY BRANDS ONLINE THAT WILL KEEP YOUR SHEPHERD HEALTHY FAR LONGER THAN WHAT IS EXPECTED IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF THE PROFIT MARGIN...BLESSINGS, BEV~~
We have a farm here in TX. I have 3 Belgian Malinois and One German Shepherd (Kujo). The German Shepherd acts as the Supervisor while Belgians do all the work and keep an eye on the Farm for security.
LOL I find the same thing with my GSD and Mal. GSD is early warning, Mal is "I GOT THIS!"
@@Vincent.Valentine.Gratefiul for your most brilliant and humorus post~ I so love these dogs...wish I had one...Bev~~VA
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My german shepherd has been through a lot before we adopted him. He retired from the police force and the was shoved into a kennel for a hole year, he became so bored that he taught himself to chase his tail and bite it for his own entertainment. Not only that, the black flys chewed up his ear, and he was always picked on by the other dogs. After adopting him, he had soooo much anxiety, the vets told me he was suffering from anxiety and depression and gave me meds to give to him. But I refused them, after a long time of support, love, and care, he is the greatest companion I’ve ever had. So in my eyes, German shepherds will always be the kings 👑 ❤
WELL DONE! THANKS FOR SHARING!
@@wilhelmgeisler2124 your welcome..?
Good for you. Taking on an older rescue Shep can be dicey. At least you knew a little bit of his background. My youngest was a sort-of rescue. He'd been thru two owners before I got him. Believe this...that dog was a wild animal. Neither family had put in the effort and time to train him. Everybody at our dog park knew that I was looking for a partner for my 7-yr old. They steered her to me. He's a tan Sable, about 3 yrs old. High drive. Huge body but only weighed 88 lbs. You could count every rib by sight and he had diarrhea. I got along with him, but every time I tried to lead him, he snapped at me.
Long story short...I've had him 6 mos. He's now fully trained, if a little stubborn and weighs 103 lbs and looks great. Shows what a little time and effort can do. He and my oldest are now inseparable. Bless you, for taking that chance. Neither of these dogs would be alive if we hadn't.
God bless you for that note
Glad he found you!
As an ex K9 officer this is correct. German Shepherds rely more on brains and make better family pets. Malinois rely more on athletics. I have observed German Shepherds teach Malinois. I watched Shepherds teach Malinois how to play ball / fetch and tug. I've also witnessed Shepherds when they notice a visitor bark once run to the Malinois and agitate them then sit back and watch the Mali do all the work barking etc. And yes it was hillarious. I always had Shepherds but both are great great dogs. I would pick the Shepherd for the family setting though.
As an owner of 2 GSDs, I agree 100%. Mals are absolutely fearless while a Shep may take a second to think and choose the best course of action. Mals are much more athletic. Any reasonably decent and intelligent owner can learn to handle and train a good GSD. You need to really know what you're doing with a Malinois. They need strong consistent owners. GSDs are a little more forgiving and think thru problems. Which makes them easy to train, generally. Mals can be so independent that they resist being told what to do. That can be overcome by a good training. Family environments can be rough on a Mal. GSDs seem to be able to mellow when appropriate. And Sheps LOVE kids. I love them both, but I don't think I trust my abilities to have a Malinois.
German shepherd or Rottweiler
Both are great..GERMAN Sheperd is over all the better dog for protection ect..They won't get too high strung and stressed like the mali
When I was in law enforcement, I worked alongside two handlers and their 110 pound German Shepherds. Wonderful, smart dogs. Never got to pet them once. Against their training, I was told. Unbelievably smart.
We were given a retired K9 German Shepherd by my dad's State Trooper friend. I was 4 years old... it grabbed my cat out my of arms and killed it. Without a word, my dad went in and got our shotgun. Walked the dog behind our barn and dispatched him. I was so young I didn't understand why. But in my golden years, I fully understand.
My service dog is a Belgian, yes he does all the ptsd stuff but that's not his main uses, he is a mobility dog assisting with wheelchair, object retrieval, opening and closing doors, drawers and cabinets, he can turn the lights on and off, and he is a seizure dog he has a button in the house that if I have a seizure or fall he can call an ambulance for me then he would either lay on me to stop the seizing or roll me to the recovery position!
Wow! That is amazing.
@@leejianne5342 He came from one of the prison service dog programs, he was trained from birth for 1 1/2 years before I got him.
in my opinion, german shepherds are the best dogs on the planet. even with families. once you go with a german shepherd, its hard to ever go with any other breed. they are truly amazing dogs
Amen. I so agree that’s why yesterday we just brought home our second German Shepherd. Our first one is 4 1/2 and we brought home a new puppy, hoping they will be best buds and brothers for life. I’ve had a beagle and a yellow lab who both fit our lifestyle well at that time but now we live on 23 acres and my two GSD are perfect. Super smart fiercely protective of our family. Super fun to play with. They work hard play hard and listen well. ❤
@@ashleygaerke3371 thats awesome. they love the space thats for sure. but they will be good together. i am on my 2nd and 3rd german shepherds, and all three of them have been fantastic
I got my first GSD 2 years ago. I don't know if I could have any other breed after getting him. Affectionate, loyal, protective, goofy, fun, and is the best behaved boy when we take him out in public. I love my boy, and proud to have him in our family.
I have 5, 3 Mal, 2 German. All have proper advanced training and you can't compare learnig speed of belgian with german. Belgian has unmatched intelligence and agility, belgian will learn anything in seconds, with proper instructions ofc.
@@smexosmexy9106 ya i havent spend a lot of time with malinois, but i just know for a family dog that can also be trained german shepherds are amazing. german shepherds can be and are trained to the highest levels for protection work as well, but so are malinois
My GS was the best dog I ever had. I miss him every day.
Ive had 2 Shepherds, 1 female straight back, and 1 male from German bloodlines , both lived longer than most 13, and 12, beautiful dogs, but the male was just an incredible dog, never be another one like him. Lost him in September 2019 , and I miss both of them every day.
@@VK-qe7if My lived 13 yrs also, protected our house everyday from squirrels.
@@VK-qe7if hi Vk can u check my channel and ur views on my GSD she has straight back is it ok for GSD. Working line dog she is ?
@@robertward553 Lol yes both mine had a thing about Squirrels to. But from an early age I taught them to be gentle with my cats, and other small furries, and they actually helped me raise my kittens. Both were show bred dogs, and the female was bred by an old very much respected lady breeder, and I'm sure she would have lived longer if she hadn't got cancer. The male was from German bloodlines, and had the usual health problems, and was operated on at 6 months old for elbow dysplasia. The female was from a non accredited breeder, and the male from an accredited breeder, but she bred from a dog she really shouldn't have bred from. Now i don't trust any Gsd breeders, especially as the lady who bred my female has sadly passed away, she was the only person I would have trusted to get another puppy from.
@@ayushupadhyay007 Your dog looks very like my female straight back, and she looks good. But I wouldn't make her run around on concrete floors as it isn't good for her joints. Much better to exercise her on grass, Woodlands etc. Look after your dog , and she will live to long age, and never leave her outside in the cold, as that is also bad for her health . You have a really lovely dog there.
As a previous German shepherd owner, they're gonna be my go to breed for sure.
love German shepherd!!
@@burk77dlc7 i agree whith you
Spot on, my Malinois needs constant stimulation. He is on all the time. My German Shepherd knows when to be calm. Love them both, German Shepherd thinks, Malinois reacts.
Malinois doesn’t fit in well in most homes, still gets 4/5 as a family pet?!😅
@@bokostelac460 belgan malinois is not a house pet at all only a working dog.
Malinois aren't usually kept as house pets
@@sui_wrld exactly, I was just pointing out how ridiculous her ratings are. How do you give a malinois a 4/5 rating for being a household pet.
@@theperfectfighter9193 not true , he can by both . Education and time .
As a family pet, I prefer the German Shepard. They are more predictable, and they have an on and off switch. I had a GS, and she was almost the perfect dog. I've been around BMs. Great dog for what they do, but they are too hyper as a family pet, for my liking.
We have a GS/BM mix and it’s like getting the best of both worlds. He’s extremely intelligent, obedient, playful, athletically gifted, fiercely protective, but also super chill, calm, amazing with our kids, and loving.
We have the same mix. She's so intelligent and very playful.
We have a Rottweiler/BM mix... She can be a hand full but she's the cutest, most loving, athletic & intelligent dog we've owned yet... I love GS but they are just so dang fury.. Are GS/MB mixes fury?
Trainability has nothing to do with size. Both deserved 5/5 for training, both are extremely smart.
⬆️💯 Exactly.
Yes. Doing hyper athletic tricks isn’t training related it should be a different category. I really think she just wanted to have them end up even. The malinois is very good at specific things but a German Shepherd is much more well rounded. If you are considering things like being a family pet in this than the German Shepherd is the clear winner. If you are talking strictly about military or police work the malinois might have a slight edge but it depends on the exact application.
Malinois/Dutch shepherd are by far the most versatile working/sport dogs. They can do almost every dog sport to a high level of competition.
@@bzebarth Yessss that disappointed me. I thought they were going to look at different jobs like Human remains detection, Drugs and narcotics, hunting/ locating jobs and even service animal etc.. Not to mention that K9 officers live with their parterres at home at the end of the day so family life is a thing to consider also..
Don't know about other countries but the malinois looks like the German shepherd off when I was a kid, lighter in frame. Old type German shepherd in my book, good dogs nonetheless and you can see why they favour them more.
My 2 GSD’s were the sweetest and most fiercely loyal dogs I’ve ever had the privilege to own! Miss them every single day!!
Have had my 1st GSD for 6 months now, always at my side, playful, smart, protective, good with the little ones, and can just cuddle up and chill in the family room.... just amazing dogs
Mine is a 4 month old female GSD , she’s super active and we have to take her energy out through running and playing outside 35 minutes twice a day , otherwise she’ll become us crazy . How’s yours ? Is he super active too ?
Owned both, loved both. My shep was amazing at K9 tasks and a good buddy for recovery work. My Mal is an absolute beast, she can cuddle my 6 month old and a second later jump through a second story window the next minute. I don’t understand the Mal misconceptions, they are wonderful pals and great dogs in general. They really don’t need much more than a regular dog.
They're both great dogs! We have a 9year old GSD and our son, when he got out of the Marines got a Malinois pup. She's now about a year and a half old and she's a sweetie but HIGH ENERGY! Again, both great dogs but the Mali is a younger person's dog...
I am with you, and brother my Malinois is the coolest dog I have ever encountered
My Mal is a Love Dog, But he will protect me with his life. He is awesome.
Never had a mal but have an East German working line GSD and red nose pit. Both incredibly smart and loyal dogs. They team together and help eachother do stuff. Love them to bits.
I bought a Malinois pup from the police, if you don't spend 2 hours wearing him out he will drive you insane. They are impressive if you are obsessed with them. But otherwise don't get one they are on coke 24/7. Do not get that dog, they are crazy if you don't challenge them, insanely intelligent, and will figure out a way to destroy something you care about because you did not give them enough attention. Reminds me of my e now that I think about it.
Lmao.. yup, finds my shoes and my work clothes , I’ve lost about 2-3 pairs of shoes so far , and I hide them.
@@christian_urocar Try training, be fun and bond with your dog. Don't watch this twit, she's an ignoramus.
Mallinois are monsters if you don't give them enough exercise and don't pay them much attention,But they are amazing dogs and in my opinion they are better than GS
@Soraia ljubtschenko Motta i rate them 100/100 because they are really good dogs
So true I just got mine and he is crazy
I have a GSD and also worked alongside Mals while in the Marine Corps. If I were to chose for myself, GSD. Just a better “family” dog. Does just about everything the Mal does without the “high strung” behavior. Don’t get me wrong, Mals are great. But this is spot on about their CONSTANT need for stimulation.
My German Shepherd plays when we play, sleeps when we sleep, eats when we eat, and gets excited when family visits. She's always ready to sound the 'intruder alert', or play fetch. She's like a furry human. Her strong bark alone is enough to take our home off the easy target list.
Same
Otis is my first GSD. He has had that foghorn bark since he was 3 months old. At 9 months he's already 71 lbs, but he's a love bug. Great with kids. Friendly, but highly alert with strangers. The schedule thing didn't really occur to me, but yes. He wakes when we wake. Sleeps when we sleep. Hangs out with the kids at play time. It's nice. So far, so good.
I had a couple working line Malinois as my first dog-walking clients. I would walk them and pet sit for them when the owners vacationed. They were working lines trained in bite work. Their energy level helped me get really creative about tiring them out techniques I used later with other high-energy breeds on my route. I enjoyed every moment they were my absolute favorites! The best part though was that it led to me finding my personal dog a german shepherd who followed us home on one of our walks. I ended up adopting her after the owner couldn't be found.
That's so awesome ❤️
what methods do you use to tire them out?
I love my GSD...If I had a Malinois I would love it too. I will say this out of experience of having Max (my GSD). He is the closest thing to having a child that I can think of. He has a mind of his own and out smarts me regularly and I absolutely love that. He is absolutely devoted to me and I'm rarely out of his sight and if I am out of his sight he knows where I am.. I honestly love all dogs and I'm privileged to have a GSD who watches over me like nothing I've ever experienced.
I have spent everyday with my GS for over 12 years, she is still my baby and there is no doubt she would always protect me
Sasha, my German Shepherd Service Dog, is a rescue I found or maybe she found me, is a 115 Sable. We have been together every day for over 5 years now. She can read me like a book, knows when my PTSD is coming on, will even wake me in the night when the nightmare's are getting intense, a protector, friend, companion. I don't believe I could have made it this long without her. She is my 4th German Shepherd I've had in my life but by far the best.
Do to circumstances we are having to stay with friends at the present, he is a trainer, has a Belgian Malinois about 3 years old that is just to much for a 60 year old man. When he gets too much Sasha puts his ass in his place. Don't get a Belgian unless you are in great shape, they need a lot of tending to, exercise, and constant attention as a young dog. Though I love Monster and he is just too much for this disabled Ole fellow without Sasha at my side.
I have both . I didn’t choose the 🇧🇪. It was given to me and it has so much energy I can hardly keep up.
The German is FAR more loyal.
BOTH ARE LOYAL I HAVE A MALANOIA AND HE IS KIND TO OTHERS
I have both, I've had both show me teeth but my German Shepherd wagged his tail after I spoke up, the Mals I've showed me teeth also but I've had to actually use the Ecollor to correct it. I addressed the concerns as a handler but they've caused me not trust them. My German Shepherd has run into guys with guns, knifes, even alone with my young niece someone broke in and the Shepherd protected her, bite the burglar and came back wagging his tail. Love them both, I just can build a better emotional bond with the GSD's and I feel the dog's just show their love back better.
You are not qualified to handle one.
@@Calvinmob681 The Blahbenwar whatever will never replace the German Sheppard as a family guard dog. No way, no how, not now, not ever.
@@MasterPhilip616 I agree.
I worked with both in the military. i prefer GSD, but they are both highly intelligent guard dogs.
At Point 2, i would give both a 5 out of 5. Both can do crazy stuff and are fearless, and what the GSD lost in agility, he makes up for it in strenght.
They make AMAZING dogs when you put the 2 together too ! Basically get a Mal that isn't as insane lol. Or a GSD with slightly more drive
that is a gt answer, i have a 6 mnth old dutch shepard,x ive had bull breeds for years ,
im starting to like the look of the gsd, but i think the malinoia would be to much ,
thinking along the lines of gsd x dutch shepard,
Ja imam kombinaciju od oca belgijskog, a majke nemackog ovcara. Pobednicka kombinacija
And in intellect. We had a East German working line GSD. Absolutely in control, strength and thinking. I always say that if humans had half the brain of a GSD, the world would be a better place😂
Having grown up in a military environment (my father was a military officer), at one point my mother worked in the UK Veterinarian Unit, I'm so pleased to see these dogs in the video now given full protective covering which wasn't the case in WWII and later.
We have a pair of GSD and have never taught them to “work”…..but they taught themselves to do things for us around the property and we unknowingly created a “command”. That’s how smart these dogs are. Example>>We had mice In our barn. One day I was walking out there and saw one….I was started so the one dog that came out with me moved so fast, snapped and slung that mouse at my feet. Literally. I was whispering “okay, let’s check it out” more to myself to hype me up to go see what the situation was around the barn 🤣
Now….when we go for a walk if I say “check it out” they go to the edges of everything and look for rodents. I kid u not. I can tap around the bottom of our vehicles and they will search like a drug dog. The male taught the female the next time she was out.
Then there’s “what’s that”. If we hear something at night.l.any strange noise they go low on their belly and silent as can be as they look for the offending noise. By the time I catch up, they are sitting beside something that fell off a table etc. if the noise came from outside they are sitting by the door. Silent and waiting for me to let them out to go see “what’s that” lol
This is incredible 😍
Really laughed for your great sense of humor mam......" What's that "...
Have 2. Smartest dogs I have ever trained. Actually better than Aussie, and way easier. Also best babysitter you could ever ask for, naturally. Anyone’s kids, not just mine.
German Shepard for life
I have both two Malinoise 2 German Shepherds. 👍
At least spell it correctly.
I have both and Dutch shepherds are like a mix in some ways
@@thelastrebelshow1627 you are a brave one !! Lol just one malinios is enough for me ..
German Shepherd is the superior dog
Have nearly spent a year 24/7 with my GSD because of the Pandemic. If you want a dog that will give unconditional positivity, love and loyalty that will respond instantly to commands, GSD is the ultimate breed. If you put the effort in the reward is AMAZING. This breed is so highly intelligent, you can speak sentences to them and they will understand. They are highly motivated to support and look after their owner, their complex traits will never keep you bored. When in their home environment they are super chilled and relaxed. If you gain a GSD's trust and you are their prime owner you will have a BFF. Do not get this breed unless you have the time, commitment and loyalty. Put your GSD first and they will put you first, the bond will be unbreakable.
Very well stated. I called my girl Sasha "momma" she was so attentive.
Our GSD was off the chart smart. Malinois might be a little faster, but when our GSD ran it was like a bullet and the bite force is about 35lbs more than Malinois, 3lbs more than a Pit Bull! LOYAL off the charts. Don't get near an owner with a GSD because they are super protective. Like you say, they're chill but if danger is near they are on like a light switch. Get a GSD with a SQUARE back so it doesn't have hip problems.
Mals are incredibly loyal too. Mine is a professional stalker.
CAN U NOT SEE BOTH F THEM ARE GOOD DOG BREEDS DON'T BE SAYING THERE NOT CAUSE I THINK MALANOIAS ARE BETTER THEN GERMEN SHEPARDS IF UR BORED U SHOULD GET A MALANOIA THERE SO FUN TO PLAY WITH
Amen to that. I just hope that GSD owners and owners of other breeds & dogs keep as commited as they were during the pandemic.. i dont know how it is where u are from, but overhere in Holland, assylums are filled with dogs who are ditched by their owners since june (about the time our govt said everything went back to normal) came along and people had less spare time.. it truly breaks my heart seeing these dog ditched by those who they hold most dear. My adopted stray but especially my GSD is so intuned with my emotions, its insane, i think its fair to say that they (apart from my girlfriend (maybe)) are my most valuable support
I have a German shepherd so intelligent you can see it in her eyes a good companion
I had never heard of the BELGIAN MALINOIS before but learning about their different traits was very helpful. I loved the categories that were chosen and agree they are "both the winners that they should be."
Thank goodness for this video, I love this video so much ❤❤❤❤❤❤
As a Military K9 handler for 6 yrs, both are great dogs but I would have to go with the GSD.
Did it make anyone else a little mad that they didn't use any good clips for the German Shepherds, and that half the clips they use for Malinois were German Shepherds.
Or am I the only one that noticed?
Affirmative
@@jayevox932 German Shepherds are smarter than Malinois, but Malinois love to learn.🤔 I'd still put the GSD higher, but not by much
Affermative as well
YEP- and the cover photo isn’t a mal, it’s just a poorly bred Shepherd 😬
@@samiam9598 Yep. I commented that in a separate comment too😁
Having been exposed to MWDs in the Navy, I asked out of curiosity why the Maligator was preferred by the SEAL teams. The handlers told me their primary reasons for switching to BMs were weight and genetics. Weight is self-explanatory, while the genetics said is due to the medical issues Shepherds develop in life that BMs are fortunate to not develop, such as the notorious hip dysplasia. They love both dogs, but the BMs aggressiveness also won out. While deployed, there was one BM who entered the TOC regularly. She would walk around to each person and would stay next to that person until they petted her. Once she got a quick pet, she moved on to the next person, until she met every single individual. Alternatively, the other BM in our compound had to stay inside a crate with a blanket covering it, because he hated everyone but his handler, and if he saw someone walking by his crate, he would turn into the Tasmanian Devil trying to attack the person. He wasn't trained any differently from the other BM, it was just his personality. Once he was paired with someone, that handler became his all, and anyone else became the enemy. Interestingly, he never tried to attack me when I happened near his crate, even when the blanket happened to be off at the time. The handlers did take notice, but we never ventured into why. My luck, he was probably trying to lure me closer with false peace, just to scare me. I never dared venture close. Haha
The Belgian can have the same hip issues as the German. All dogs have hip dysplasia and reputation for the German is due to poor breading choices as the low rear was seen desirable in the show ring.
The Malinois is experiencing such a hype nowadays that many people of very poor character long to have a Malinois for the wrong reasons. I don't think that the healthy breeding can provide as many Malis as are asked for. So either some of the not so good Mali breeders have more litters than is healthy, or wild puppy mills provide all the puppies people want to buy for little money. For the Malinois I hope that the breeders don't give in, because the genetic pool would be minimized over time.
Another problem are weak handlers that want a Mali for he wrong reasons and have no fundamental knowledge of dog, working dogs, or Malinois. And puppies from puppy mills in the hands of poor handlers is a catastrophe.
A few hours ago I watched some videos of a young woman, who claimed she had to "wash out" her Malinois service dog, who of course was badly raised by her and meanwhile she started "protection training" in some kind of barn with the help of a woman, who seems like a member of the woke cult. The young women of course got another Malinois, who she claims to have trained as her service dog. Both her dogs never even learned the slightest obedience and of course never had either one of the dogs tested as service dog. I my opinion both dogs are fake service dogs and she isn't able to care properly for a single dog, let alone two Malinois, which she couldn't have gotten from a serious Mali breeder.
I am raising a Rottweiler again to train him as my personal PTSD service dog. I already had a Rottweiler as my service dog, who sadly died on April 29th in 2023.
I have had working dogs all my life. I grew up with Rottweilers, later had Rottweilers and American Bulldogs and one Australian Cattle Dog. I used to breed American Bulldogs in Germany for more than a decade, trained working dogs for more than three decades, was a working dog handler and also resocialized shelter dogs, etc. So I have some years of experience with Rottweilers, yet I still do hybrid training of course. I have an experienced trainer specialized in training service dogs as support for those areas I can't train by myself due to PTSD. I also have the dog sports club in my town as support, where also police dogs are being trained, and I primarily do obedience. With my late Rottweiler Lodur I also did nosework and Treibball. With the current puppy I might go for IGP, which we call Vielseitigkeit in German.
I can't believe that people with no knowledge of dogs and IGP training at all are able to perfectly handle such a strong breed like a Malinois. And they obviously don't. They can't handle a Malinois and then label him "washed out". They then get another Mali and go to some barn trainer to go on with the nonsense.
I wouldn't have a Malinois because of the sane reasons you mentioned. It would be possible probably, but I wouldn't want all that stress. I rather have some fun with a Rottweiler as I don't socialize otherwise, so the dog sport club is my luxury and fun.
I recommended that woman to turn to Nate Schoemer for help to find a trainer to help out. I guess she won't take my advice. So I just hope that her bad decisions don't cost anybody's life, because she will probably keep on getting Malis whenever she labels one as "washed out".
The USA really must do something about official certification for service dogs, or else bad people will constantly come up with fake service dogs that end up in shelters so others may take care of them. 😢😭
@@lisasternenkind6467 ma'am, I'm not sure what you were trying to imply here. My previous Service Dog was a Lab. A Malinois would be too much for me due to my disabilities, plus I'm not patient enough to train a dog myself. So, I must rely on Service Dog organizations, and the constant long waiting for approval to be paired with a Dog. My Service Dog passed away in 2020 due to cancer, and I have waited to get another. Now I am searching for a good organization. I have been researching a group who trains rescued Pits as PTSD Service Dogs for vets. I may go with them, because I have a friend who got a PTSD Service Dog for herself and has been teaching her Dog additional commands needed for her disabilities. I am 100% disabled, and need more than just a PTSD Dog, but PTSD is one of my most serious disabilities, so it would greatly benefit me to have him/her to assist me.
My previous Service Dog lived to age 12, kind of rare for a pure Lab. Because of him, I met many celebrities and other famous people. I would often say he met them, and I was just along for the ride. 😁 Because of the job I had at the time, the security officers gave him a badge like mine, and it had my security clearance on it. So my Service Dog, who spent his first two years in a New York state prison, was then given one of the highest security clearances in the nation. 😁
I’ve worked with both dogs while in Army SOF. Both are outstanding but, the drive and versatility of the Malinois made them superior to the GSD. Great content.
As an ex USAF K-9 handler, trying to lift a 100 lb+ GSD for drug detection work in a mail room was rough. I guess now, they use smaller breeds that you can lift for sniffing. We didn't have those options back in the day.
Also a former K9 Police handler for 14 years. I loved my GSD'S. Loyal hardworking and family friendly. I must say i havent had the opportunity to work with a Mal but i wont deny as a working dog it would be a pleasure to work with it. Personal pref would be the GSD.
German Shepherds r the best
I spoke with a police K9 handler about this a few months ago. He said Malinois may be good for the Military and for purposes where their athleticism is required, however he said that GS have a much more stable character and self-control, which makes them easier to have on patrols around people. Also he said that good service dogs (in the police) are expected to achieve some degree of autonomous judgement and situational assessment capacity, although in a very controlled and predefined way. He thinks GSD are best at just that, because they were principally bred for just that trait.
In the avatar I use is Abby, my Malinois. Man, she was an amazing Dog. Absolutely the best friend and the best dog I’ve ever had. She saved my life twice, and really helped me deal with my PTSD. I called her my Grass Missile, good God she was fast.
I have had both shepards and Mals. My current is a Mal. I wouldn't trade her for anything. But all my dogs have been excellent. I been blessed with all 4 legged friends that I have had in my life.
You are just a solid dog owner.
Belgian Malinois are very good working dogs but German Shepherds dominate them in a family setting. Those dogs are incredibly smart and loyal. I had a German Shepherd once, once my dog was whining because we were all playing on this thing you hang on. Turns out she was warning us and not so long after it collapsed. Basically our dog saved us. And German shepherds can be very laid back also. Sometimes Kida would just rest when we are home but when we are outside she would be very energetic. But in 2020 she died to Leukemia. RIP Kida.
So sorry for your loss. 😢
I have a now almost 11 month old female Belgian Malinois. I got lucky with her!
I run a few miles 3-4 days out of the week and she stays by my side were ever I go with no leash, I did not teach her to stay on my left side at all times.
She is the best well rounded dog i have ever had,
If i want to chill and lay around all day she will, If I want to go for a 6-8 mile run, she's down.
smart, loyal, good size.
Give them love and positive reinforcement and they will run into a fire for you.
This is like comparing a man in his prime 30’s to a teenager on methamphetamines
@@primalcritters Sorry, but anyone who says a trained 60-75 lb Mal isn't a "man stopper" doesn't know what he's talking about. I've handled both Mals and GSDs in both combat and protection details,, and I guarantee you that either would take you down instantly with minimal effort..
@@samroney6644 yes those Malinois are often but not always mixed. The vast majority of knpv Malinois, military and police line Malinois are mixed. They may look like a Malinois but they are mixed German Shepherd, Dutch Shepherd, Great Dane and even Pitbul. It takes years of selective breeding to accomplish this and they breed them back to dutchies or Malinois so that they look like a Malinois or Jesse but they usually have slightly larger heads, and are larger in general. Of course there are also purebred Dutch Shepherds and Malinois working but I'm simply pointing out that some breeders increase diversity and performance this way. Some enthusiasts get very upset when I bring this up but I will always point to the fact that there are some bicolor Malinois being bred. Bicolor does not come from the Mal, it comes from the German Shepherd. For the record I prefer the genetic diversity in working dogs. Thank you for your service.
@@primalcritters They're not mixed. They just are not bred for "show line' characteristics. That doesn't mean they're mixed. Working line mals are all mal, not mongrels. Either you misunderstood or your breeder friend doesn't know what he's talking about in regard to working line mals. My experience with them is first hand, not second hand from some guy who favors show lines. Mals were originally developed from crossing several breeds to guard. Show lines began, later, breeding for specific characteristics conducive to show & household pet situations and breeding out some characteristics of working lines, while breeders of working lines continued breeding for characteristics of working dogs. Your puppy mill buddy is ignorant and biased to make his derivative pet/show line sound like its closer to the original malinois, when in fact the opposite is true.
A trained 100% Mal from working lines would make short work of a grown man.
@@samroney6644 I understand that a purebred Mal even a small one can take down a man when trained. I'm simply pointing out that x Malinois can have Dutch Shepherd, a little GSD and sometimes pit. What's the big deal? Genetic diversity. I'm just pointing out facts.
@@primalcritters what? Have you heard of a DNA test?! What cop told you his Mal was mixed? Seriously.
Got a new GSD 7 1/2 weeks old and almost 10lbs love him so much
For a legitimate working dog, the mal is going to be better almost every time. For a pet, the GSD is the best dog there is. They’re smart, loyal, trainable, generally friendly, and have the ability to “turn it off” when it’s time to chill out. Even a GSD is on the higher end of the spectrum for dogs that need stimulation, the Malinois is way more than almost anyone outside professionals can handle
they're a dedicated bunch. The best working dog but also pet as well. I should know, i have a Mal/GSD mixed.
I really appreciate you emphasizing raising animals with -kindness-. I had two experiences with two different German Shepherds in my childhood. One had been abused as a puppy (I didn't know this until after the incident) before my friend's family got him (I think. They didn't abuse him in any case). I gave him a hug (a very light, casual one) in passing and he tried to eat my face off. I've never owned a dog and I was very young when it happened, but I never blamed Taco. Even at that age I remember feeling that he did it because I'd done something wrong with hugging him. I still feel bad because they ended up giving him to a friend of theirs who lived out by a lake. Honestly, Taco might have been happier there, but I felt bad that my friend had to be without him.
Anyway, the other was a dainty girl GS named Champagne who lived up the street from me. For about a week, she would trot alongside my bike to school and then she'd be sitting across the street when school let out and "walked" me home. Until the last day she did it, she didn't stay across the street but came all the way into the school with me and wouldn't leave my side. I have no idea why. My 4th grade math teacher Mrs. Jenkins even yelled at me about having my dog at school. Champagne sat outside the classroom door and no matter how much I protested that she wasn't my dog and I didn't know why she was sticking to me like that, I got in big trouble lol I tried to tell her to go home, but she just seemed really anxious and whined and kept pressed against my leg. Which went a long way to convincing my teachers she wasn't mine lol I don't know what was going on and I think about it often. I didn't even care about getting in trouble because deep down I felt kind of special. Also weirded out, but special. She walked me to all my classes that day (ours was an outside school in Arizona) and then walked me home. But she never did it again. Wish I knew what it was all about.
Sorry for rambling on so long.
I think the Malinois also has another advantage related to the lower weight. Less likelihood of back leg problems in later life service 😀
more to do with breeding. American show lines and just American lines are bigger, Czech and W.German lines are leaner with a straight back. Tend to have less problems
With GSD's, you can't let them get fat. Diet & exercise are a must for them.
Bravo! Pogodak!
I'd rather have a GSD. I'm sure the Malinois is an great dog, but they fall in the category with the Border Collie in my book, just to much dog for regular life.
I agree
What you mean by too much dog?
@@cesar-lf1jw did you watch the video?
@@cesar-lf1jw to intense. Would never own a BM
@@cesar-lf1jw border collie and Belgians are just so high energy and intelligent, that they can be pretty overwhelming and high maintenance. Kind of a lot for the average person who just wants a companion
I adopted a Malinois from the shelter to train as a medical alert service animal. She does not have the typical traits of a Malinois though. Inside the house she's calm and napping 90 percent of the time. When she sees me grab the leash she knows it's time to go outside and play and that's when goes full crackhead like you expect from a Malinois.
Mines the same. I grab that leash and it's on
Very same with my Malinois. We adopted him from a shelter and he's the calmest most chill awesome dog of all time.
@@jaleris She's not always chill lol. Inside she's chill, however try and walk up behind me and reach for me or be in my yard uninvited and it's going to be a bad day.
Backyard bred mals often have shepherd or mastiff mixed in a ways back to make larger, more laid back dogs with the mal look that can be sold to more of the general public. Any solid black ones are mixed, mals don't naturally come is solid black.
"Full crack head" lol
My Malinois is the smartest and most interesting pet I’ve ever had. But requires so much attention and stimulation. Luckily we have a large yard for him to get plenty of exercise in and I spend hours and hours outside exercising and bonding with him. Truly an amazing dog, goofy during play and downtime but a serious guard dog. As much as I love him and would definitely get a malinois again; I wouldn’t qualify him as a good pet as he can chew almost anything and will do so it left unattended and unexercised 😅
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Like most of the others I've had the opportunity to work with both, but find myself gravitating to the GSD for both working dog and pet. And while the size is an absolute agility asset for the Mals, the size is likely a greater asset for civilian protection pets. My current 9 mos old GSD Male is likely to land around the size of his father's 115lbs. Having owned both M and F GSDs I would suggest F's for those with smaller house, yard and car and M's for those with large house, yard and truck for transporting regularly. A fit female in the 75lb range is much easier to travel with than a large fit M in the 110-120lb range. And "bad guys" are going to see the F as dangerous, perceived nearly as big as the M unless they see them side by side. The only other caution, most pets do NOT need to be trained to do bite work. They will INSTINCTILVELY do whatever it takes to protect their pack.
I agree with German shepherds not needing to do bite work. My 2 GSD would scare off any intruder just with their barks. Amazing alert dogs. They’re wonderful with our children and always protective of our property and home. Yet, have some tennis balls and they don’t even notice the other dogs at the dog park. 😂
My GSDs father weighed in at 120 pounds so I'm looking forward to seeing him balloon to 110 plus. He is already wearing large collars at six months old. I feel sorry for anyone who decides they want to test him once he's fully grown lol.
My GSD is the most calm, relaxed and beautiful dog at home, but when the lead goes on, she is "on". Very alert and observant when on a walk, but calm when confronted by aggressive dogs. She stares them down into submission and its a treat to watch. GSDs for me.
On my third German Shepherd, the best breed, easy to train, Great family dogs and guard dogs, you still need to be active with a German Shepherd, agree with the scoring on this one, my recent one, female 3 years old now, Czech working line, looks very intimidating, but a real fluff ball 😂
And I would also like to add that HEALTH should be a category in the scoring, because malionois have a lot less health issues compared to the average german shepherd.
That's exactly why I went with a GSD/MAL mix. He is very healthy and the best of both worlds.
@@greghight954 But what if it takes the "bad" from both sides inestead of the good ? So you ended up with a super heavy, super demanding and very unhealthy dog?
@@JP-xd6fm lol. I guess I got lucky. I think it's probably healthier genetically though as inbreeding is what has caused so much of the issues. I just have to throw the toy all evening while watching TV because he constantly brings them to me then stares intensely at me until I throw.
Get a Kelpie, can do anything either of these can, but have no health issues
Both are well respected breeds. I just think Malinois are just on another level. I have so much respect for these dogs. Our Mal is the best dog I have owned.
My 7 yo GSD is happy with 20-30 min of fetch each day and a few walks per week. I am a therapist, so she gets to go to the office with me 3-4 times a week as well. My clients love her!❤
Coming from the 101st the Belgian has my heart. Had a lot of time spent with them and their handlers. Not called a fur missle for a reason. 4:26
Fur Missle: I love that name
I own a Mallinois, we call her a malligator she is an amazing family dog and protects us with her life! I used to think that a GS is the best dog until I met the mallinois!
Me too! I would love a Mal/gsd mix.
GSD wins every time, best dog I ever owned nothing could come even close
Yupp owner fan boy. Wait till your shep has health problems.
@@beyondthunderstick1578 wishing harm on someone’s companion, yikes
@@beyondthunderstick1578
Your an asshole for wishing pain or problems against someone/something you don’t know.
@@brendo2lit574 it's not really wishing, that's the sad truth. Gs have health problems when they're old. Most common is hip and back.
@@pp-zu2tv basically every breed nowadays does. That doesn't mean you have to comment about it when someone just said they love their dogs breed.
First pup we had is a Mal, sweetest thing ever just need to spend time to play exercise and train them like any pup dont get one if you cant dedicate the time they deserve 🤷🏽♂️
I have owned GSD's in the past. I love the breed. The last one I had almost made it to 13. I still love and miss him. I will bring up a point that I don't think has been discussed in either this video or the comments. I was at a pet expo a fews years back and watched an exhibition by a LEO with his Belgian Malinois. He told me that canine units in both law enforcement and the military are beginning to prefer the Belgian over the GSD because they can get more years of active service out of the former. Because of their lighter frame, they can serve longer before having to be retired: more bang for the buck, in a sense. Now, I do not know if this is indeed the case. I am simply sharing what I was told.
kinda sad to hear... bvut makes sense. Fine by me.... lets save the GSD's for family protection. No dog is better
My gsd is 13 he's a east gsd 114lbs and very fit acts like he's 4 still
One of the many reasons Mals/Dutchies are preferred over GSD. Though they get mixed all the time now too. Frankly, I have found purebred GSD to be inferior for almost everything except for cold weather tolerance and maybe defensive drive. Longevity, athleticism, and intensity I'll take a Mal/Dutch 90+% of the time.
I once had a home invasion and decided to acquire 2 Belgian Malinois. I owned 4 Belgian Malinois and it was the BEST investment I’ve ever made. They’re amazing dogs who are always WORKING. They guard the house like nobody’s business. Needless to say, we never had another home invasion ever again!! 😂
I love these two intelligent, fearless and adorable dogs. I own a Belgian Malinois before and right now I own a German Shepherd and they are both best dogs.
GS is by far the better for family situations. Pity "breeders" have ruined them over the past few decades. BM has the high drive needed for a service dog. As for border collies, l kept them for 35 years, they were all worked and were a delight, its another breed that, like a BM is too wired for family life. I use Labs now for shooting work, frankly, it is one of the finest "all-round" breeds as long as you don't need an attack dog lol. They will still bark and guard property. Having a "wired" dog in the UK is a minefield should it bite. A friends GS guarding her stables once bit a scrote intent on stealing tack. She was almost charged with possession of a dangerous dog, luckily the CPS saw sense and let it drop, not after an anxious few months. Buy the dog that is best suited to your lifestyle, all dogs deserve a good life and a happy existence.
I was gifted a puppy seven months ago whose mother was a full blooded American Pitbull and father was a mystery. I have struggled to understand why the destruction and the constant need for attention and many, many other things are so prevalent in this dog. A week ago my cousin sent me a link to a video about Belgian Malinous. We have made more progress in the last seven days than the last seven months. He is not for a first time owner definitely. I love my Malibull. He is a perfect natural guardian but they are a full time job. By far he is the most incredible animal I have ever seen. Strength, Speed, Intelligence and full of love and affection. I don't think the man has any Idea what he gave me.
I have one of each. I can see how one could be advocated for more over the other. However, I have to go with my Shepherd because they were bred to herd, police and protect. Policing the livestock to keep it in grazing areas in open pastures back in the day in Alsace required decision making and this comes through in working lines. When you see it in action it's pretty amazing. Our Mali is like a small Shepherd on acid with a 'banzai' approach lol If she comes at you at full force then you may get knocked off your feet but if you are 6ft 4 and weigh 220lbs and are high off your face then that isn't happening. If my Shepherd hits that person at full pelt, they are going down. Most family protection dog trainers use Mali's very rarely because their off switch is harder to locate.
I loved my Malinois, she was eight when we got her and was a Malinois was a retired Police general
Our belgian malinois is just perfect for us. He likes challenges and is very active and protective. He is so cuddly and loves to sleep on our lap, that we sometime wonder if he is not a fake malinois.
Same lol malinois are big babies at home but outside they look like the rule the dog world lol
I would want a Belgian Malinois alongside me in military service. Simply an all-around dog that can handle any extreme combat situation. At home, I want a GSD, they’re awesome pets with a sweet temperament that will literally die for you. Both great working dogs!
Yes, I'd probably choose the GSD also. The only reason I would lean towards the Malinois would be health, they are a much much much healthier breed. Maybe if you could get a calm enough show line Malinois they would be great.
@@jeffk464 mals aren’t that much healthier
In the US, the average malinois is WAY healthier than the average GSD. Particularly show lines. Now if you get into working lines, GSD get much healthier.
@@jfkst1 that’s what I meant :) American show line gsds are just being ruined
@@romeliaanddixie Well, I don't think that the German Shepherds here in Germany are much healthier. If we would still have the variant from over 100 years ago, then it would be undoubtedly superior in health. Many breeds have changed over the decades or centuries and a lot of them got worse in terms of health. Mostly because of looks.
Edit: Okay, we still have lines with straight backs here. I don't know if they're the majority here in Germany.
I'm bias.... Malinois are great. I've had mine get the cops called on him because the caller thought I had a wolf. He's protected me many times. I've had off leash dogs try to attack us but he's put them in their place. He likes walking 7 miles to go see his Pitbull friend. At home he hangs out with his family, a pitbull, a cat, 2 macaws, 1 parakeet, and 3 chickens.
I love both breeds, but I feel that the Malinois's energy levels have been underestimated as a barrier to it being a family dog. I grew up next to a house with an understimulated Malinois and GSD, as the former was far more of a problem - we had a Boxer and Collie-X and the Malinois was a real liability. Even at an old age, it was constantly scaling the barrier fence and trying to fight our dogs to get its necessary stimulus. I'm sure if there were young kids around, it would have snapped at them.
I love the breed and have a X at the moment, but the Malinois should get at least a 3/5 as a family dog because of how dangerous and unstable it becomes when understimulated.
Ur rigth
100%
Facts
and that's why i hope it will not became a "fashion dog" as the german shepherd. it' better that a dog like this remain a work dog. not as gs that it's ruined by the breeders.
I have an aging german/aussie mix and got what I thought was a 1yr old GSD mix from a rescue... After watching this and seeing the comments I think it is a Malinois mix. First day jumped the fence my dog just does not (she can) when I had to work that week i would come home at lunch to let them outside and I became a Minimalist without wanting to, everything was broken/chewed. More than I expected. I added height to my fence and luckily it is not as solid so he cannot trust it to climb over. He also has begun pulling the fluff out of of both dog beds. I must say I am super thankful for the young pitty next door they love to run up and down the fence with each other.
Great dogs both of them! Personally I'm a Pitbull lover since childhood but these two breeds are definitely impressive.
my belgian malinois was the best dog i ever had, but sadly she passed away when 2021 comes. :(( i missed her everyday
Watching this tells me that the Malinois is a harder dog than the German Shepherd. I love the GSD, I guess no matter what, they will be my heart
Not at all. When I think about hard dog I think of a serious no-nonsense dog that you cannot screw around with. Both breeds have personalities like that for sure. Incidentally, I find Malinois to be the contrary. They are generally extremely sweet and affectionate so no, not hard at all. A hard dog is basically a serious dog in the sense that they will not take any crap from anybody. What the Malinois has is a higher Drive. What that means is that it wants to play with its ball all day everyday 24/7. Basically it wants to go go go 24/7. That does not mean hard, that is simply an energy level. In terms of work, both breeds can do the same things except at the Malinois is smaller less stocky and more agile. Also, it does not have the same kind of off switch that the GSD has. It wants to go go go go go. More Speedy Gonzales Style. Just wanted to clarify because there's a lot of misconceptions from people that have not owned either, or have only owned one and think they're an expert. People best explain it that the Malinois reacts and the GSD thinks. The GSD does not have the same level of neurotic tendency. In fact, they've actually found a gene in the Malinois that does not exist in the German Shepherd for neurosis. This is why they excel at work, because they are obsessive-compulsive about whatever task they have to do. Some German Shepherds are definitely bred with these qualities but as a general rule of thumb, it's purely a numbers game. There are far more gsd's bread for both show and work where is the majority of Malinois are only bred for work so far. They are starting to breed more showline Malinois So eventually the breeds might even out but as for now, Malinois tend to be more hyper. This has nothing to do with being tough. There are plenty of very tough dogs just like the Malinois including the German Shepherd. But the Mal is unique in that it is both agile and extremely hyper. Also something to note is that all of the military and police Malinois are mutts. Because the Malinois is generally a much leaner and smaller breed in the German Shepherd, they mix them with working line German shepherd, pitbull, Great Dane, and Dutch Shepherd to give them a little bit more size umph for the work that needs to be done. A purebred Malinois will get very small even down to 40lbs. I've owned both breeds and I've experienced others dogs as well not just a single Malinois and German Shepherd
@@primalcritters that was an excellent explanation of the difference between the two breeds you have obviously worked or had experience with both as have I. If I worked every day with a dog I would have had several BM’s in my life by now. I’ve worked at helping train them being an agitator so I’ve certainly learned to respect and even love them but circumstances have not allowed me to have a dog with their constant energy and drive. That being the case I’m now on my 8th GSD and have trained several of them to do rescue and avalanche rescue work. The fact that they can chill out and instinctively seem to know what energy level is appropriate for any given situation just made them more appropriate for my life. I love them as they are as much family to me as any of the human beings I share my life with. Thank you for your excellent explanation of the differences as this thread was definitely in need of it!
Mine is a 50/50 GSD/Mal mix. A 65lb all around good-boy! He has the Malinois play intensity but can be pretty chill when he needs to be. He gets super intense when the ball comes out though!!!
From experience I prefer the German Shepherd over the malinios because if you do get a working line German Shepherd that was bred to breed standards they should be 70-88 pounds. My dog for example is 70 pounds with the build of a malinios except much more muscular and he’s almost fully grown. They definitely don’t have the same level of drive as the malinios but it just makes them more adaptable to different situations. Also they have slightly longer coats which make them a little more resistant to colder climates in my opinion.
A friend of mine had trained dogs for military applications. Regarding German Shepards, they are larger, suffer more from hip displaysia. He found that German Shepherds who serves in combat, when they are taken out from service, he found many suffered from PTSD, turn nuts, have to be put down. The Malanois, don't have much of the hip displaysia problems, didn't have the PTSD problems like the Shepherds.
The German Shepards of 50 years ago were a lot leaner and more athletic, similar to the Malinois
Agreed. Breeders in the US gotten away from the strict breeding in Germany. It happened with the Roti also.
I'd say the German Shepherd around WW2 was more like the Dutch Shepherd today. A bit taller and bulkier than todays Malinois, if only so slight.
Our male GSD "Cooper" just turned a year old and is already 98lbs. Loving, insanely smart and protective (especially of the wifey). I would not call him agile though lol. He's a big clumsy oaf with a tail that could knock over the sears tower. He's still growing into his body so I'm sure that will change but he is family and is treated as such. He was gifted to us from my sister-in-law (who is a GSD freak) after about 3 years of not having a dog. Our last pupper was a chow/sheperd mix and when we lost her it was really, really tough on all of us. But SuperCoop was the best gift anyone has ever gotten, us.. EVER.
My brother has a big male GSD that jumped over a 6 ft fence
My German shepherd could give a Malinois a run for its money. My GSD is clingy and non stop until 8pm and she turns into a baby
I used to have a female German Shepard. One day i was on a walk with my step dad to go check out these abandoned cars I found in a ravine. And as we stopped to start a little campfire and cook hotdogs I hear something running off in the distance. Turns out my dog got free from the house and tracked me 3 1/2 miles away down in this ravine. She was such a good girl... RIP Bailey.
As I watch this, my 100 lb GSD is lying beside me, retired service. Age 14 and just a bit arthritic.
Every day is a gift❤
What I find annoying is if you look the early german shepherds they looked a lot like the Belgian malinois does now. The backyard breeders have been beefing them up on size for years saying I have a huge german shepherd thinking bigger is better. And then the show breeders with their awful slanted backs.
But it's not all about looks as the show and backyard breeders haven't maintained the the tru temperament and strength of nerves either.
Max von Stephanitz..
The most striking features of the correctly bred German Shepherds are firmness of nerves, attentiveness, unshockability, tractability, watchfulness, reliability and incorruptibility together with courage, fighting tenacity and hardness.
Yes, it is sad. In this comparison, GSD gonna lose one more point on "health". It is a miracle over-breeding did not destroy their steady temperament. It is a great breed in DNA.
The old-school GS still exist, but they are expensive and harder to find. In Germany, a true SV working line pup will cost at least 1300 Euro...
I was living in Germany, bought a German Shepherd who turned out to be 105 pounds of solid muscle, his son (bred by very nice AKC) turned into 115 pounds of muscle. I found the GSDs in Germany larger and with less health issues. They breed them for work there, we didn't see any as just pets. My current two are 100% American, one rather large at about 95 (though I think he could lose 5 pounds) and the other a lean 75. Both smart, both trained, but the import lines I had were just better somehow, more self confident.
@@valeriedemello1794 😳omg !! That’s a huge GSD !!! Did they have shutzund ( I know I spelled that wrong ) training since they were from Germany ? I have a 70 lb female . She was the most active dog I’ve ever had , but she’s 12 yrs old now and her hips are going ! It’s very sad . Taking her to a rehab next week to see what can be done .
DDR (east German) GSD's were built bigger. Those dogs eventually made their way to the Czech Republic, where the line continued.
I Love this! GSD all the way for me!
Great comparison!! I was curious about their differences.
I love'em both!!
I would love to think I could keep up with a Malanois. However, my GSD is the perfect mix of temperament and work/guard capabilities. GSDs are a shedder and should be renamed German Shedder. Good review!
As I love both breeds I thought it was so cute how the little crowns appeared on both heads at the end of the video and couldn't agree more lol 😂🥰
Bad Guy: I will rule the world.
Shepherd & Malinois: Hold our kibble.
The warfare changed a lot. WW1 & WW2 were direct man-to-man combats, where German Shepherd's calmness, mass & biting power had a great advantage. Today, combat is done from a long distance; manned forces are reduced to small teams of specials, who travel light, do quick operations, avoid direct confrontation; there Mallinois fits better.
That's a very interesting observation. And I think you're dead on. I've always considered the Belgians the Special Forces of working dogs. There's literally nothing they can't do. But the owner needs to be as well trained as the dog is.
Both are amazing breeds. I will stick with my GSD though because I can't give the Mal everything he will need energy wise. The Mals are amazing to watch though.
Dear AW: I have always enjoyed your podcasts, but this highly informative, well-supported, and easily understandable comparison of these two similar but different breeds takes you to the Head of the Class. Kudos for this fantastic video.
I agree ☝🏼 I have Belgian malinois 5 months old but she’s too much for energy… but I love German too they are so beautiful and family oriented
yea, my trainer recommend using a treadmil for them to burn off energy.
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German shepherd is the best 🐕.
It depends on the individual dog.
As much as I love the German shepherd, I must say base on experience that the Belgian malinois are way more easier to train when it comes to combat training, they're so prey driven and very2x athletic
It may depend what line of German Shepherd you are talking about. The working line is a very different dog than what most people have as family pets.
@@bzebarth well , all most all malinois are already like this , you don’t need to find the “ working” line .
That's the appeal of the Malinios. They haven't been corrupted too much by world popularity like the GSD. It's cheaper and more easy to find a good Mal for working than a Good GSD for working. At one point, both the GSD and Mal were similar in drive, build and temeperment. They were both created around the same time as well, in the late 1800s. The problem is the GSD gain quick and massive popularity as the "German police wolf" thanks to world war 1 and 2. The Malionis, being Belgian, was far less noticed.
@@christian_urocar I just can't believe what an ignorant comment. You must know nothing about working dogs if you can't concede that the German Shepherd has been the most popular dog in the world in both working sport and as a family pet for decades and decades after the world wars. That kind of popularity will inevitably cause its demise. Perhaps you heard about the recent controversy with the roach back German Shepherds and showline breeders breeding deformed Shepherds? At the rate we're going at, the Malinois will have the same destiny. Only it won't actually, because it's not as versatile enough of a dog. Too nervy.
@@christian_urocar Rubbish.... not every malinois is from a working line. Trust me, I live 15 km away from Malines.
Imagine that, a tie. I'd never give up my GSD for anything. And that's my pick.
As a dog trainer with thirty-four years experience, these are two of three breeds that are tied for first place on my favorite breeds list. The third is the Dutch Shepherd, and I have one of each. Like she said, the Mals & GSD's are tied, one is a little better at some things, and not quite as good at others. Mal is Sch111 and came from the KNPV, GSD is DDR w/Sch111, and my Dutchie is also a KNPV dog with a Sch 11 & FR11. PLEASE do your research before getting any one of these. I always say "You have to be smarter than the dog." But unfortunately, when it comes to these breeds, many people aren't. Best breeds in the world, but they take A LOT of work, and then A LOT of maintenance. On a side note, I really like her videos.
Great comments. Thankyou Trevor 🙏
I've had GSDs since I was a kid, trained a few myself and trained a friends malinois when I was younger. The malinois never got enough exercise or training other than when I was around and they always laughed that their dog listened to me more than them, even though they had a shock collar on it (which I despised). Ever since then, I've realized that just because you like dogs doesn't mean you are good at being an owner. Two days ago I adopted a 6 year old malinois to join my 10 year old GSD and even though she's older I'm amazed by her energy at 6 years!
I'm curious what sch111/DDR/FR11 is referencing? I've never heard of it before and I'm interested to learn more. A quick google search doesn't do much, so if you have a good link or resource that would be awesome!
@@zander7513 SCH is an abbreviation for Schutzhund, a German word meaning "Protection Dog". Schutzhund is a dog sport comprised of tracking, bitework, & obedience. It was originally created by the creator of the German Shepherd, Captain Max von Stephanitz, as a test to find dogs suitable for work and breeding. There are three levels, 1, 2, & 3, with two being harder than one, and three being the most difficult. DDR is an acronym of Deutsche Demokratische Republik, or in English, German Democratic Republic, the official name of former communist East Germany. Current DDR German Shepherds are the descendents of the old German border patrol dogs used by police & military. They were bred for health and working ability only and are considered a "type" of German Shepherd. Some other types are West German working lines, West German show lines, American show lines, Czech working lines, and there are a few others. KNPV is short for Koninklijke Nederlandse Politiehond Vereniging, or Royal Dutch Police Dog Association. It is similar to Schutzhund in that it is used to help find high quality dogs for police K-9 that are highly trainable with great working ability. FR is short for French Ring Sport, and similar to Schutzhund & KNPV is a dog sport with three levels. One way they differ, is that FR does not have any tracking, but instead has an obstacle course, and KNPV replaces the tracking portion with longer and more complicated bitework. Some people do these as a fun sport to do with their dogs on the weekends, while others use these to help find the best working K-9's & personal protection dogs. BUT, none of these are complete, and were created as tests. Therefore, a title is great, but it only means that the dog should be capable of real work. Any police, military, or personal protection dog will still need more training before it is able to fulfill its role as a working dog. If you Google any of these names now you should be able to pull up a ton of information. Enjoy your research, and remember, if your dogs have what it takes (and many do not, just like not everyone can play in the NFL) it's never too late to start! Look up "Schutzhund (also called IPO and now IGP) Clubs near me" and if you find one, give them a call, or better yet go watch them train for a few hours to see if it's something you may possibly be interested in!
@@trevorcottrell3946 Fantastic information! Thank you very much.
Dutch Shepherds are an overlooked shepherd. Being stationed in Holland & Belgium showed me they are great dogs. Still prefer my GSD's though.
Two amazing animals!!