70 hour clock and how to avoid a 34 hour reset
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- Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2020
- A video about how I like to run my 70 hour clock and how to avoid a 34 hour reset out on the road. Hope this video helps y’all understand a little better and if you have any questions or comments just leave them down below.
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This is helpful because my trainer is making me run my 11 hour clock almost everyday and that's not good he's just a hungry money person and don't even take his rest the right way this is definitely going to help me when i go on my own
The more hours you are available to work on a day determines the loads you get. So if you wake up with 5 hrs to work you're gonna get a crap load. I say run your clock out daily and at the end of the week take a 34. Your dispatch will appreciate you much more and give you quality loads.
If you have one short day in your recap your screwed.
I've been doing this 25yrs trust me it all averages out in the end.
I appreciate your comment. Personally I’ve got a lot of killer short runs when I’ve been low on hours. My view on reset is a little different now but also I rarely have short days for recaps as I do fairly well keeping consistent hours.
I will say however if I can get the house more often, I would be running my ass home and just taking a 30 at the house because like you said it all kind of works out.
Such a polite guy, thanks for your help and people like you!
Thanks for you comment and subscribing. Just trying to help people as I make my way down my journey
@@roadroostertransport9339 great video, Bro.
How many miles A week can you average without a reset?
Thanks
@@najn2372 well depends on amount of waiting on loads and stuff but I usually run 2500-3000 miles.
@@roadroostertransport9339 that's not bad.
Mathematically speaking doing resets grants more time then running on recaps. Plus I get a day and half off, fuck driving numerous days on end.
Well if I wanted to sit for a day and a half my ass is gonna be at home enjoying it 😂 now I have done a couple 34 rolling re sets since starting training but if I’m out I’d rather run every day than sit one place. For me it’s better for me mentally.
after 60 to 70 hours work. in 5 to 6 days nights in truck. I want out of truck 2 full days nights. each week. that's enough for me. but some want more. some less. I dont mind. you must do enough to make money and a livin. that's just my opinion for me. god bless truckers. and their families. god bless america and americans
See if I was near home or something I might take off but if I can make money every day I’m going to and I’d rather run every day personally then get off the truck for a week or two at home with the family
Same thing✌️
Appreciate the video I drive for Prime as well. Yeah I’ve been having a difficult time with my hos. This video explains a lot with the new ELD and omnitracs
Glad I can be of service
Thank you 😊God bless and stay safe 🙏
I've run on recaps for a month in the past, no 34 restart. What I found after doing that was that I didn't make any more money than if I had run out my 70 and took a 34. What I also found out was that I was seriously burnt out after doing that. Our bodies need that rest. I'll do it here or there now and then, but I don't suggest running on recaps regularly.
Well running recaps help keep me sane lol I hate sitting around forever and don’t like spending money just to get out truck unless I’m at home lol
@@roadroostertransport9339 I say don't even go OTR. Find something with a work life balance if you can.
I just drove steady, never hurried up. Took my time off when I needed to. The money stayed the same.
@@TTVZicaZachh I personally couldn’t stand being local and I have plans and goals I’m aiming for
i never ran on recaps , when i was a rookie a dispatcher said i could drive everyday if i did recaps and i thought he was crazy but ive met guys who say thats what they do all the time and like it , i guess otr to only work 8 hrs a day would be easy
This is a very hot debate! I would prefer to work everyday (i'm out for 1 month) because I get stir crazy sitting at a truck stop in the middle of nowhere for a long time. But that's me. Yeah it blows doing laundry after a long day but the month sees to go by faster. Good video 👍
This is how I feel too
Thanks so much will most definitely save this video for TNT assist, thanks
Good video, thanks
Thanks bro need this one
Thank You! Got It!!!
Thank you for the video, very helpful. Be safe out there. Roll’ON
Easy explain 👏🏼
Thanks
Just don't excede 9 hrz in total, drive/on-duty combine and you'll be able to do such each n' every day.
Providing outsource ELD service 24/7
Long story short, you can work 8.75 hrs per day (drive + on duty) in perpetuity and not go over 70 hrs per 8 days, however that assumes that you are at a place where you can park. The only leeway you have is if you park at say, the 8.25 hr mark, you could work 9 hrs the next day, etc. In actuality, trucking schedules, loads, + unplanned delays no one would actually work exactly 8.75 hrs per day. Hard running drivers would benefit by running hard during the week + get the 70 hrs in as soon as possible, then a 34hr reset can be done before the aforementioned schedule would catch up with you, allowing extra hours of work.
Yeah except when you conserve your clock most days you can shave off and save enough time that running every day without a reset works well. Especially when you’re not chasing miles.
I have a question, do you recommend me getting a 4.5 size fridge and micro as soon as I get my own company truck?
Because I'll be doing OTR. This l Friday I'll take a test on what my lead has trained me on .
Mostly a recap yard backing,45 ,90 and close corners. I'll get back to you if I have a question about the clock. I do split time if I'm getting unloaded for more than two hours on my last stop.
I think a microwave and fridge are a great investment. It helps to keep you from relying on fast food and truck stops every meal and lets you keep food selection on the truck. Plus it let’s it be easier to find parking when you aren’t as dependent on finding a place with food and drinks.
trip planing, nobody think about it, but do it it saves a lot of time looking for a rest stop, use the paid parking if you work for mega carriers , try to make it to your stop before 4pm
Or drive through the night lol
I only put myself “ON DUTY” if I’m doing a pre-trip or a DOT Inspection. Not going to waste my time.
I mean you do you, but you have to show on duty time for the work that you do otherwise, your logs just looks suspicious, fueling unloading loading. You have to show some type of time because you are not just driving constantly.
The problem is you get your times back after midnight, and sometimes it not good if your on a load that has to be in within 2 days, now if you have a load that delivers within 4 days from when you pick it up, then working with recap hours is good.
I’ve never ran into a issue with recaps messing up a load. But I also trip plan it and if I think there will be issues I get another load or work something out. I see what you are saying though
nice vid bud... How much time do you log in under PC a day or week?
I barely ever would use PC unless I was dropping the trailer at a drop yard. I would use PC to go home which was about 100 miles away but that was just because I’m not gonna sit at a drop yard when I’m trying to go on my hometime.
Other than that, I might use it for 30 minutes to an hour a week or every other week if I needed to drop my trailer and go to Walmart if I couldn’t find a truck friendly one on my route
Will u gain your hrs too be gained while driving hrs you have
Personally i avoid personal convaience because if not done properly could get you in trouble this is for the first timers out there i know i got my butt nailed for it when i first tried it my mistake waa not going back to where i first started my personal convaience my safety maneger and fleet manager pulled me into their office when i got back to the main terminal and told me about it from that mistake i learned how to better manage my time But now that i got my gramps truck restored i no longer work for that company since my truck is a 1979 kw k100 i do paper logs which i prefer
Just run 10 hours a day for 7 days and never run out of time on the 79 hour clock
This makes me miss the Qualcomm. My company forced the Maven on me and its a pain in the ass!
On your 8th day at midnight when your hours come back on to cycle, can that happen while driving or do you have to be stopped?
Yes it comes automatically while you are driving. At midnight no matter what you’re doing the hours become available.
@@roadroostertransport9339 just remember. You still have the 10 hr sleeper rule. So don't expect to drive 9 hours that and cone midnight expect to drive whatever recap hours you gained back. You will only be able to take advantage of 2 more hours of driving.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 yea you still only get 11 drive hours before having to take a break
I have a question can you go off dutty went you unloading and loadings.or i need to be
On duty.
If you are free from resposibility of the load while at the dock, (they will call you when it is done) you can log sleeper birth to be safe, Off duty means you are free from all resposibility to legally log off duty. If you have to be on the dock or sit in a waiting room, you legally need to log on duty.
Sorry I never saw this notification but it’s basically exactly what has been said. After I finish my responsibilities for work (usually about 15-30 minutes unless I’m on the dock) I hop in off duty and go lay down or watch tv in off duty.
if i start driving close to midnight will my recap hours be add to my drive time while driving?
Yes your recap hours will automatically add to your clock at midnight
You can drive if you have a rap even if you use up your 70 hours you don't have to get a 34 restart
How can I save time, when I drop early, and I will go next pickup, but not ready pickup, I sit at the warehouse but time is going no stops ???
You can do a split break like a 8/2 or a 7/3. You can pause your clock by going off duty for at least two hours then drive out when you have left and the bigger number must be spent in sleeper berth.
I’ll make a short video to explain and post it to try and explain with some examples soon. But basically you make sure will pair is selected and then go off duty for however long your sitting then you’ll not loose out when waiting extended periods. Then drive your clock like normal and finish your break in the sleeper. Hope this helps some and that the video can do more
Can u do video about save time, when you waiting long time, cus time going even I put off duty or sleep.
@@sherlockholmes1636 yes I will get one up soon. It’ll be my next video for you bud
@@sherlockholmes1636 video is being uploaded right now for you my friend
So what if your 70 hour clock runs, can you personal conveyance?
Only use pc for personal use of the truck not under a load and not moving for work. Or if an officer asks you to move or having to move from a shipper or receiver to complete your break but only to the next available safe place to park…. Never run on pc to advance a load or get farther towards something work related
It is very possible to run on log recaps, not at 11 hours a day though ,I drive in the oilfield, two things are different here , number one, they use a 24 hour reset and number 2, ever hear of a 5 line log book ? ,
Stephen Doughty please tell me what a 5 line log book is cause I've ran illegal most of my career and doing ignorant shit till I had kids then elogs came about so I'm interested what a 5 line book is lol
They do exist and used extensively in the oilfield, the 5th line effectively stops your time from ticking away while you're on location waiting ,it is totally legal ,check into it , your company won't allow it ,but here they do
Why do you guys not like the reset? Kick ass for 6 days and take a 34. That’s laundry, haircut, and maybe a movie day. Relax and get away from the truck. Also what you guys don’t get is that by running recaps, you are limited to certain loads if you only have 8 hours today and gain 6 at midnight. It doesn’t make sense to do this. My advice is you max every day, take no more than 10 hours off and go again. Don’t be taking 12 to 14 hours off. You are away from your family so make it count and make some money.
Because I can kick ass and make money for seven days a week and I don’t want to sit for 34 hours straight at a truckstop or have to get a hotel or what night you’re right I’m out here to work and to make money sitting for me is not a good thing. Very rarely do I have to sit longer than a 10 hour break. And sitting for 11 or 12 hours getting that little bit of extra sleep and being able to have time todo stuff
However to each their own for people that preferred to take a 34 hour reset it works for them that’s great the only time I really want to take a 34 hour reset is if I am somewhere near my home so that I can spend the day with my family if not I’d rather run these roads
He's basically showing how to run off the clock without reaching the 70 HR Mark... That applies to most new drivers that are "drones" that are working for the big carriers which in terms are the bottom feeders of the industry. The same carriers that run the newbie drivers to exhaustion over their time, causing accidents etc. In no way shape or form a veteran driver will go with no 34 HR. restart ! None that I know of...
In no way shape or form should you run or do it if your exhausted or not able to perform effectively, efficiently, & safely. I don’t know how you choose to do things but only way I’m taking a 34 is if I’m able to spend it with my family or I have enough time before a delivery while on a load or waiting on a load. I don’t need or want to sit at a truck stop or somewhere for 34hrs every week. Not only that but during the downtime there’s plenty of time to rest for me personally. By running every day and using recaps I’m able to maximize my revenue. There’s more than one way to skin a kitty cat my friend and mine does not include a 34. I know of many that think the way I do including family as well as ones that take 34s. But whatever works bud you have a great day
@@roadroostertransport9339 I agree w u brother. However I don't run wknds. at all I do well financially to only run Mo. thru Fri. Most wknds. I'm at home and if out of state I end up hanging out at relatives' houses. For instance now at my cousins' around Charlotte, N.C. over this wknd. I live in MI. So that's cool every time I get a chance 2 visit relatives in different states. I rarely hang out in truck stops to take my 34 hrs. restart anymore. It's been years... Been driving since '93 and the last 14 yrs. been doing specialized hauls btw. How about u ?
@@sebastiangarla8558 been about two years but my dad was a driver and stepdad both being drivers didn’t take them and I have friends that have been in it longer than me that doesn’t take them. I also know many that take 34s every week or every other week.To each their own I personally don’t have family to visit besides people that live within a few hours of me. I haul reefer, & I choose to run on recaps because it works best for me and for my mental health. I’m not saying it will always be this way but I’m working towards goals and plans and so far my way has gotten me further than I’ve ever been. Coming from being on the farm and from past work experiences and business ventures I find myself most productive when I’m working every day and taking advantage of my time to the best of my ability. The entire point of this video was just my explanation of how it works and how I do things to help people asking or trying to figure it out. At the end of the day everyone needs to do their research and do works best for them and how they choose to operate and be effective and efficient to the best of their own ability.
@@roadroostertransport9339 right on. As I said everybody w their thing. Years ago I learned that running off the recaps, u eventually burn out. I did twice when I was younger. However if u r young and u can still do it, then more power 2 ya. I'm not necessarily refering 2 u. Just an overall thing. And w these stupid ELDs some drivers have no choice but 2 run of recaps and keep going I guess. Again, everybody have their own limits, stamina, style of running, preferences, etc. Not everybody is built the same u know
@@sebastiangarla8558 10/4 I hear that. Like I said everyone needs to research both side find their path and take it. I just put information out from my side. If it’s helpful great if it’s not that’s cool to. I am not trying to force anyone 😂 these videos are mainly for me to look back on in the future and if I can help anyone along the way that’s a added bonus. Also if when looking back I have different opinions or choices on how I do things there will be videos on that as well. I appreciate your opinion and comments on the video and am glad to have the conversation with ya. Thanks for stopping by and checking it out.
I still don't get it I went 4 mins over the 70 hour clock does that mean I'm stuck for 34 hours. I don't care anymore I've been out here for 7 days at this point I just want to go home and get a regular fucking job
Well go back and edit some of your on duty time so that you can run if that happens. Unfortunately it is a violation and will stay showing on your logs for 8 days that a trooper could look at. Keep your head up things get easier and you will find the ways to save time on your clock and make it work. It’s not a lifestyle for everyone but give it a shot.
Home base why. Not ?
If I’m near home I’d take a 34
how to get rid of the 70 reset is for every trucker to take in home until the laws change.
Well that’s not gonna happen and I got bills 😂
I don’t get it
I run 10 to 11 hrs then 34 and back at it. Hot shot tho.
Right on… everyone has a preference that works best for them
So basically. Keep it under 70 hours for 8 days and I can run everyday?
Yes basically
That’s what I do. I run 7 days a week 3-4 weeks at a time.
About to head out off tnt In a week just to make sure i got it right
15-pretrip
15-fuel
Drive 7 hours
Take 30 min break
Drive 30 more minutes
Then hit sleeper for 10 hours?
@@Officiallomein you can take your 30 minute break any time after 5 hours to gain back the three you have left... and with the way the rules are currently you can use that 15 minutes in fueling on duty with another 15 minutes of off duty directly after it and count that as a 30 minute break
@@Officiallomein also after your shift you need 5-10 minutes in off duty before you go into sleeper berth same thing coming out of sleeper berth. Shows you didn’t roll out of bed and get behind the wheel
I hate the 34 hour reset it shouldn’t be mandatory as long as you rest 10 hours a day you should be good to go there’s nothing more stressful than being in the truck for 34 hours without moving is the stupidest idea …
You forget that most companies require drivers to go as close to the maximum drive time every day! So why risk getting fired because you only drive 8 or so hours a day🤔
Well I wouldn’t be at a place like that lol
You're not really avoiding a 34 hr reset. You're just breaking it down a little every day. Plus if you have 32 hr long trip. You would have to leave a day earlier. Because running 8.5 hrs a day is not the same as running 11 hrs.
Yea if you had a 32 hour trip but when I’m solo it is more feasible to not take a 34 with all the time at shippers and receivers you can shave off the clock… I can run indefinitely until I go home for time off
Dude stop it. 34 is Not your issue- running is.
Use your time wisely, do your dang work - try to run about 700 miles a day, 500 on the load and unload days… And take your rest of your time 0FF.
Do what I said and you’ll make a lot more money.
That’s a negative ghost rider… if I could be off at home sure… if appointments were no issues sure but that’s not the case… I have no problem running I have problems with sitting in the truck doing nothing 34 hours
I do a 34 EVERY WEEK I'm on the road 3-4 months at a time , I can Disprove any argument against this with 2nd grade math, recaps are paycheck Cancer, duh, Unless you go home every 2-3 weeks which is annual income cancer for a truck driver, i run 6 days hard and do a 34, i get rested ,restocked, and im ready to bang out another 4,000+ mile week, if you have lots of hours on your 70 all the time you get longer runs and less time sitting at docks, companies make alot of money on short runs and Love having drivers on recaps with only a few hours ,just enough to do this here run lil ol 2-400 mile BS, they save on fuel driver pay and still make plenty meanwhile drivers end up with 2000-2500 mile weeks thats Rookie BS , i knock down $150k as a company driver i got 1,000,000+miles in less than 6 years, No recaps Here , Again Disprove with second grade math, add up down time and compare You Shall SEE,,10hr break daily is 70hrs a week + all the other time sitting cuz you aint rollin, again duh
Ya forgot to let folks know making that kinda income you probably haul specialized freight lol
Don’t drive your life away, get out of that truck take time off
Yea I get out when I take home time if not I’d rather be running and making money. I feel ya though!
I am just curious how us old drivers survived without boobtube to guide us through life. And by the way it’s 8 3/4 hours to not do a restart, or if you want to work more do the restart and you can work more than 70 in 8 days.
Just worry about driving so you can pay the owners dings and they are some stupid ones
I wish it only took 15 minutes to get fuel.
😂 hell 9/10 times I’m done and back in the truck changing it in 14 😂 but DOT is looking to see about 1 minute every 10 gallons approximately you just can’t pattern log
I do know I prefer pumping in the middle of the night so I don’t have to deal with waiting on drivers when it’s busy 😂
You sound sleepy
Dude how do you even make money running 8.5. I give you props for the video but learn 8-2 or 7-3 And PC is for personal convenience. (i.e. it’s convenient for me to make more money) quick tip pull your ez pass down for weigh stations and run. These fuel prices are bs and you never get ahead keeping the rules. Btw on your break do your inspection. You have a great path but muddy the water a bit and make some coin. At 62 or 65 prime really brain washes you about fuel economy. They purposely turn these trucks down on power just to prove their point. Smaller turbo spools sooner better eco decrease exhaust diameter better back pressure and yep more eco or just order the different gears 2:91 blows and you can’t pull a hill. Try explaining the mechanical side to the ACE teacher. Omg she was pissed when she had no idea what I was explaining.
I put a clamp on reducer on my truck and yep I take it off for my inspection but I get better fuel
I’m very familiar with the split and with using pc. I appreciate your information and another good time for inspection is any time you can loop it in with loading unloading or fueling 😆 and yea 65 is a bit annoying but I just keep it at it and coast when I can lol until I’m able to move on down my path
You dont drive a lot according to you clock
I might not have when I made this video. 🤷🏼♂️ it was a long while ago. I know I drive a lot more miles now 😂
dont listen t this.......he just made a easy thing 10x more complicated
Do you have a video?
Thanks for your opinion. I know it might be confusing to some people but I am just trying to help people through things in trucking as I go on my journey. If someone has questions or concerns suggestions whatsoever I’m alway willing to talk to them about it either comments, email, or phone when I’m available.
@@roadroostertransport9339 i understand thank you😅😅😅