Spirit of a Culture: Cane River Creoles
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2021
- In a story that pre-dates America, the multi-ethnic French Creoles of Cane River in Northwest Louisiana identify themselves as somewhere between white or black racial lines. This program recounts the Cane River Creole struggle: from colonial French Louisiana to today's Creole led multicultural renaissance-against the notion of race as a deciding feature of a population. The program is a collaboration between Emmy award-winning filmmaker Bill Rodman and Executive Producer Flo R. Ulmer.
I grew up in Chicago in the 1960s and went to Catholic schools in the so called "inner city". My school was all black, and we were taught by mostly Irish and German nuns and priests. In 1966 a bunch of new kids showed up at Holy Angels School. All were from Louisiana and had left that state after Hurricane Betsy. These Creole families brought with them Mardi Gras celebrations that we really enjoyed. Holy Angels was never the same again! I have very fond memories of the Creole families who settled in Chicago and brought their unique culture with them.
Hmm Hurricane Betsy was before I was born but growing up in & around New Orleans in the late 70's and 80's the damaged houses & camps people left behind were still all over, Hurricane Katrina in 05 finished them off.. That's a very interesting story now I'am curious about any information about Creoles that relocated back then.
The marxist fear truth.
My GGrandpa Lundford was a creole who migrated 🎉to the chi…you have me wondering if he too was displaced by the hurricane or was there before 🤔 ….anyhow he and his brother and another man I founded a church in the Go. It’s still there 😁🙏🏾🫶🥰
I love the culture of Louisiana. You could study it forever and never scratch the surface
I'm so glad I saw this. My dad was born and raised on Cane River before he came to Harlem in his teens. My great grandfather was a Remo but possibly decended from a Raymond Metoyer. I'm glad I finally know how to pronounce it the way they would. My dad made an effort to bring my brother and I to his home to see where we come from. I'm so glad he did that. We couldn't get to where the actual house was on Cane River because it's a fancy gated community now. That was sad. But we were on the road where he walked to get the school bus. There was an old general store there and a mill I think owned by the Lambre's. I recognized a lot of the surnames from the film. Many are on my still growing family tree.
A branch of the Metoyer family traveled up to Omaha, Nebraska which at that time offered employment opportunities with the railroads and the packing houses. The Metoyers were entrepreneurs by nature and they opened several successful businesses in the food and the entertainment business sectors. They went to Catholic schools and were very active in the local Civil Rights movement. I attended grade school and high school with a Raymond Metoyer Jr.
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@@williamwoods3277 I am from Omaha, Nebraska, and when I was a little girl, I remember seeing Mr. Victor Metoyer occasionally near his family owned barbecue business. he was older than my stepfather, whose father’s family were all Louisiana creole , but they were casual friends. Later, when I was a little older, I remember seeing Raymond Metoyer SR. In the kitchen of their barbecue business. And I remember Raymond Jr. When I was in high school, and he was attending a parochial high school. He played basketball.
My mama is Hawaiian I am born and raised Hawaii with family on every island . My mama always told us of the beautiful Creoles of Louisiana I’m 73 and my mama has passed on how she knew of the Creoles I can’t say but she always said you were a beautiful people
I'm a proud Creole woman with relatives from the 9th Ward in NOLA! Thank you so much for this documentary -- it was exactly what my soul needed. The people remind me of my family and that makes my heart so happy. 🖤💜🧿
I descend from these people, Im from Texas, I first became aware when I was student teaching and the teacher asked me after class if I was from LA, and I asked why and he said my last name was from a big family in LA, but it was spelled the "French Way" and I was like "I don't know, I always thought it was Spanish". Then I took a DNA test and was matched to Creole/Cajun people still living in LA then my brother began to dig into Geneology, we found matches to these Cane River Creoles. Im so happy as an ADOS to have an identity to such and amazing and beautiful culture, I find myself wishing I were back with my people on the Cane River speaking LA Creole. Ive never felt such a love and admiration for a people Ive never met. My goal is to visit them and reconnect.
What did company did you buy your DNA Kit from?
I, like the cousin in the film, am a direct descendant of Thomas Claude Metoyer and Marie Therese "Coincoin" and have family along Cane River. Some of us Creoles migrated from Louisiana to California. I'm the family historian and loved seeing this film. My generation is the first fully English only speaking generation. My grandparents spoke Creole French. I'd like to get the language back.
Oui, Couzin💜🙏🏽
I have some Metoyers in my Ancestry matches. 4th cousins at that. I'd be interested in comparing information if you are down. I'd like to get the language back & make some greater connections to my people as well.
My ancestors on my mother's side were free people of color in Louisiana. They came from the creoles of Madisonville near Lake Pontchartrain. This was an interesting documentary, but I do disagree with the man @44:16 who stated that all the contributions in La. from building infrastructure to carpentry, masonry, and iron-working was all done by creoles. African slaves came to La. knowing how to forge iron and work in masonry, and made a lot of contributions. Creoles were not the only ones who did this.
Thank you for letting us know about the important contributions of our African ancestors. I was born in Statesboro, Georgia (1 hour NE of Savannah), live in Cincinnati. Mostly all of my ancestors and current relatives are from Statesboro. In the 1940s, they migrated from GA to Ohio for better opportunities. As did many AAs from the south during that period. I pray that the younger generation realizes the importance of history - all history. History is who we ARE.
My family has been in Virginia and South Carolina since the 1700s. My DNA is more than 97% West African. I'm proud of my heritage.
Same
are you geechie
@@jayk7149 authentic gullah not just saying it on the internet 😆
Me too proud of who God made me but I’d like to also say I’m creole it’s a culture and I am a black woman!!!!!
@@sandybanks2865 planning to take a trip to return home to Sierra Leone soon I finally found them 🙌🏾 used 23 and me
Lived in new Orleans as a girl. People were so different in that state. All people. I like the creole food so much. Also the gypsies were interesting. Cajun, food great, too:) I am white irish italian. Loved learning about all different types of people in N.O. Never forgot it. It was soo interesting. I love being me and learning about other fascinating people. When I hear creole I smile with good memories.
My mother spoke French and was from Lousiana. My grandmother told me she was Creole andSo fun and sweet.
The reality of the post-civil war living for Creoles in Louisiana, sans their special status and the slaves to support it, saw an increased resentment toward the Black sector of society to which they had now been relegated. Those who could, passed for white. Those who could not, endeavored to maintain their special status by engaging in a peculiar form of prejudice. Sadly the resultant "Colorism" survives today. 🤔
Yes, it is so much ingrained in many cultures WORLDWIDE, I don't see human beings overcoming colorism. But there is always hope. Thank you for that bit of history.
Always continue to speak and teach your language and culture. Never assimilate. “They” will always keep you separate, you yourselves are not the only people that can tell. The ordeal of race in America wants no one to be in between. Stay Proud and continue to determine your identities for yourselves. So much has been irretrievably lost and that can happen quickly. We passed and assimilated but lost our languages and most of our distinctive culture. You are important and wonderful, and whether “they” realize it or not: we need everyone
You are absolutely right about being separate. Like the white man tried to take the Indian out of the Natives and make them white Christians. Many of the traditions of the different Nations have also been lost.
You are absolutely right...
Proud to be a Creole person by ethnicity and Black by race.
It's only the "White Supreme Racists" that made race to be a bad... Race!!
@@jossdionne9810 The only race is the human race.Everything is nationality.Racism was invented by american government mistreatment of people based upon color.
Absolutely, Sir!
@@razorsharplifestyle101hard9 Probably one of the most ignorant comment I’ve ever read. Racism and slavery existed long before Americans existed.
Do blacks accept non blacks? Do Mexicans accept non Mexicans? Do jews accept non jews? Do orientals accept non orientals?
You are a hypocrite bigot racist.
@@jossdionne9810 you really believe that?
Its how youve been programmed to think..
If you hate someone for their skin color .. thats racism.. Each race thinks they are Gods gift to the world.. racism and slavery existed since biblical times.. so how did Americans invent it?
This was absolutely amazing and necessary! My grandmother was a Chevalier from Cane River, St. Augustine Parish ...That was her church...I grew up making summer trips down to Cane River...Thank you for this Documentary!
This is my family. We had our family reunion in this church years ago. My grandmother grew up in Cane River. Thank you for posting this video.
Thankyou for sharing! I'm so glad to hear there are communities out there outside of the black/white debate. If you don't mind me asking though, has there been pressure for darker skinned Creoles to join the BLM movement?
Peace..who ya ppl'nem? Lol...Im from there but live in New Orleans
Sounds like my story. I am a Crimean Tatar but The Republic of Turkey want me to identify as a Turk or be Turkish, I as a Crimean Tatar, like the Creole, am multi-ethnic with Balkan, Slavic and Central Asian emphasis with some Greek, Sardinian, Caucuses, Armenian blends.
I’m born and Raised in Natchitoches La . I’m part of the Cane River people. I’m also part of the Natchitoches Indians. My French Creole side founded Natchitoches
My mother was born in Natchitoches.
@@thatonegirlelaine who is your mama
@@ashleybartels6457 She was a Hampton/Hamilton. My grandparents didn't live there long. They moved to Alexandria and my mom ended up living in Colfax with a relative.
@@thatonegirlelaine oh wow my Grandfather Tom Smith was from Colfax and Dad was Dr. Thomas Smith Sr. They had the old big white home in the middle of the Colfax
Was there an African side?
I myself am a descendant of Louisiana free people of color very similar to the Cane River creoles of color
Me too! ❤️❤️
I happy to know that there were free people of color, I have a question, would you people qualify for reparations? So you people are not descendants of America slavery? Please answer if possible, I am learning so many things I didn't know about, and my family has been here since slavery lol.
@@sandrastafford658 no black people will qualify for reparations... So the ambiguous ones have no need to worry.
@@TheRealist1.
Because "Black" actually means: Wan, Colorless, Void Of Color, Albino, and Pale. For the melanin-enriched inhabitants, it's only a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, but for the odd group of mountain people, it's their true identity.
The so-called Negroes are the Indigenous Indians of America -- not to confuse that with the "Natives" who became known as Natives after our grandparents marched for their Civil Rights. But for that, they were known as Mongolians.
These "Creoles" are a watered-down version of the original French dark-skinned people who moved down south during the 1700s.
@@sandrastafford658
who were the so-called: "Free People Of Color?" See, in Europe (which is named after a dark-skinned Princess named Europa) considered themselves to be Tawny while the other half were Swarthy. These are the "People Of Color" who had arrived here to conquer us.
Proud to be of Cane River Descent- Natchitoches is a dear, lovely, epoch of a hometown!
We are all God's children and all of us bleed red. I think that it is beautiful when we have joy with the way we are made.
Say it loud, I'm Creole and I'm proud!!!!!
Say it loud, I'm Creole and I'm proud.
I’m creole and proud!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M CREOLE AND I'M PROUD!!!!
Yes Louisiana Creole and proud!
Wanna hear something funny in like 1974 in high school they had black history month someone who was not creole made some gumbo for the potluck lunch it had bologna in it I went home and told my parents about it we laughed so hard my mom was a great creole cook and cook in general she had the bends she laughed so hard I remember it like it was yesterday I sure miss my parents….
I am a descendant of the Goudeau family so I have connections going back to Cane River. There was a migration of some Louisiana Creoles to Oklahoma so there are a lot of us descendants here in Oklahoma. This is great info that I am learning from this broadcast!
Emma Goudeau was my great grandmothers name from this area,She was married to a Darbonne
Hello Cuz! My kids are anyways....Goudeaus, Metoyer, Dupre, LeComte, LaCour, etc. Many in Phoenix area as well! Hope to visit Okmulgee and Tulsa in the not too far future.
Went to school with them
Some of my people are also in OK and AR. Now that explain it.
@@rachelstegman2916 Rachals too
Wonderful show and explanation of the Creole people. Enjoyed and was educated at the same time. Thank you
I've been Blessed to visit various parts of LA. I fell in love with the culture, the food and the Beautiful people. Took a tour of Cane River and saw one of the largest personal collection of paintings by the Incomparable Clementine Hunter.
I’m not creole but I love this culture I find it so interesting. There’s really nothing like it. This program does a great job of explaining things. Other videos I’ve seen basically just have very general information. This shows an in depth, day to day version of their lives
Yes it is,this is my family.If you're ever down in New Orleans,touch base..Ill show you some great places
@@OloRishaCreole504 that would be awesome! Thank you for the offer
Good job! From a Cajun. Thanks , Amy Gauthier
I have some Gauthiers not too far back in my line. Would you happen to have a family tree? I'm wondering if we might be relatives.
Hi, my name is Beverly Jean Stanford my mother is from Baton Rouge, LA and my father is from Eufaula, AL I am a decent of the Native African American Indian French Creole and Spanish Creola of South Louisiana, and Native African American Indian Mexican Mulatto on my father side of South Alabama. A mixed people of race, who believe that they cannot except or express one side of their mixed culture without excepting their. I am Creole Mulatto Black because of my parents.
The book Cane River by Lalita Tademy is amazing!! Philomene was everything to me in that book. My family is from Convent, Louisiana. This state is like a different country.
the tademys are my blood line lalita is my 3rd cousin, her grandfather and my 2nd great grandfather are brothers.
@@cjturner9688 do you get down home? That book… I’ve read and re-read it. I haven’t looked at the others she wrote yet but Cane River… there’s something about those women… idk it’s deep. I am a huge fan!!! Lol!!
This is my family! ❤️
I literally have 2 aunt's In this video
I love being a creole ive been to Cane River twice to visit my great grandmother Erniestine Brosset we all flew out there to give her a 100 years birthday bash in 1987 my first visit to Cane river at 15 the summer of 1975 in Cloutchiville I was used to Los Angeles the only place to go in that town was a place called the white elephant a pool hall I have fond memories of that trip there I loved nachitous it was so quaint.
What a well done documentary of a wonderful people. Beautiful!
Many thanks!
I've always wondered about The Creole people. I heard they were the Black & French mix & the Cajuns were the white French & Spanish. What I heard 🙂 I still didn't know. Just heard those Creole could really cook 🙂 & were a kind Spirited people. I see the African, French, Spanish & maybe even Native American. & I respect that 🙂 Beautiful Documentary & Beautiful People ❤
I just learned my kids are deep in these exact families. So exciting. I'm learning so much. Their tree and DNA matches have all the surnames! They are descendants of the "First Families" and Coincoin and Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer.....and Dominique.
I have some Metoyers in my line as well. Not too distant either.
This video has a phenomenal message. Keep and share pure cultures "For the World" ! Imagine the richness w would have if so many cultures were/are not downtrodden but rather embraced/ preserved
They are not downtrodden,,, and they are preserved… Americans are mixed,…almost all of us have native lines. But others teach they are all on a reservation somewhere …. No they are not,,, We are all Americans…
@@beverlybalius9303 🙏📿💕 🤗
Creole approved... multiple ethnic heritage...😎✔️💥💯🎶🌎🇺🇲
I too, am a proud Creole.⚜️💕💋
My is from natchitoches, Louisiana #CANERIVER
So proud to be a Creole and of my people. Taught my child about our culture and he is teaching his children. Hope we will never be forgotten people again.❤
This is a wonderful explanation of our culture. I’m from South Louisiana and of Creole culture and it has always been a struggle to define myself to others. I was always asked if I was Hispanic or Italian. I have lived in many places in the world and none compare to my culture from creole south Louisiana. It’s not what i look like, its who i am in my heart and soul. My culture defines me. I miss my culture everyday of my life and would love to be able to live out my elder years immersed in the culture that nourished my spirit and soul.
@@curlycocoa2239 hi Curly, Yes, there is no place like our beautiful Louisiana with all of its rich cultures. I guess I’m blessed to have grown up in a very large family (the creole way) and have first and second generation relatives that were from other cultures including French, Italian, AA, German, Hispanic and Syrian. Friends often comment that it must have been interesting on holidays and thinking back, they were right. It was interesting and loving. We gathered at my maternal grandma’s house on sundays and all of the accents and shades were just family and normal, until I was much older I thought everyone was like us.
Don’t get me wrong there were hardships. We were poor people but we got along and family helped family. We fished and hunted and grew food on top of jobs. Care of children for working families, care of the infirmed , sick and elderly was a family responsibility. Believe me, I would mutter under my breath about being the live-in babysitter, house cleaner and lawn mower, you know, normal immature teenage thinking, hahaha. As I look back I realize what a gift I was given and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
@@curlycocoa2239 Portugal is only considered part of the Mediterranean for diplomatic reasons, it is actually part of the Iberian Peninsula.
I get the same thing. The worst is when others try to tell me what Creole is as if I don't know who I am. We're the most misunderstood culture in America.
I have hard time identifying my race just like creole people don't want to be just black or just white I'm from south Louisiana to from great grandparents of Irish Italian French German Dutch! I do not to be Caucasian I m from 5 different countries five different cultures
@@lancesudberry209 yeah ya right. I'm probably the "weirdest" looking creole you can find. born & raised in N. O., male With Long, Naturally Blonde Hair, Blue-Green Eyes & I Have Tan Lines....But I'm "suppose" to Say I'm "black".
For those in here critiquing and wondering why Creoles don’t want to relegate themselves to the “black” label, why do you care? If you feel they’re selling outs then let that be it and move on lol. Live your life already, jeesh. It’s almost like y’all want validation.
Here’s the thing, the term “black” is a very vague yet confining designation. What exactly is black? What is it to be “black?” Really, what does that mean?? That term and what it connotes takes away from the diversity within what some would term “black” as a collective. Those in that designation are not all the same.
Creoles are not just their variety of skin colors. There is a there there in terms of cultural and social distinctions compared to other groups. I’m descended from Creoles myself, namely on my mother’s side whom most are cradle Catholic and the whole nine. Heard the french growing up and all that. If I showed some my old family photos quite a few would t believe I’m blood related to them lol. Creoles come in many skin tones. Shoot, a Creole family photo can easily look like an U.N. meeting lol. All that said, I don’t get caught up in the identity politics.
At the end of the day joust know that God made us all and we will all have to account to Him. He’s not a respect or of persons so culture and skin tone won’t save you. Remember that. God bless & peace.
Black isn’t a vague term. It is designated for people with West and Central African ancestry. A man said that they predate colonialism which is not true. Some feel that the”creole “ people were at a higher caste because of their lighter features than other African descendants. The culture is perceived to be exclusive by darker people wether that is a fair description or not. Their is a far smaller group of fair skinned African descendants in southern Maryland with names like “Proctors” that are rumored to even procreate with relatives to keep their features light to avoid being place in the darker caste. A man made concept is a facetious statement, all concepts are man made.
"Relegate" "validation"... Dark slimmed Creole people aren't really about all of that you're talking about. People are just calling it like it is. I've got some who pass, but they don't act like they don't know why black people tell them to be real about who they are.
The people in this video seem to be now concerned with culture than anything else.
We are White, here in Louisiana & America since 1600's & we MISS THE CREOLE CULTURE & are sickened to see it disappear. Its up to the Creoles to maintain their culture. WE LOVE OUR CREOLES, they are just like us only different. Really, though, here in New Orleans the Creoles were such a beautiful people & not 'separate' but distinct & rich & true. Folks not from here may not understand that it was all 'who' we were & one's character was relished. Ya know, its as though the colors enhanced the magical difference, but there was more to it all. Such a pretty people too these New Orleans Creoles. Its important to recognize one's cultural lineage. We Whites are losing ours too, as we have French, Flemish, Irish, German cultural tweaks that we're losing fast. Lots of New Orleans Creoles have Irish.
And I'd like for y'all to know, when we were small children we all had flip-dolls, one White one Creole, fabric with colorful skirts. The dolls were ours with names, we carried with us. Just flip & another friend is here. Creole, White. Tell ya what we all were, however which isn't necessarily true today, WE CHILDREN WERE WELL BEHAVED. The divide in children, as we see it, is a character difference from their homes. Poor character at home produces poor character in children, thats all there is to it.
We miss the Creoles as prominent aspiration. And these days, those delicious Creole restaurants are replaced by unidentifiable immigrants who get funding, while local White, Creole people do not! So we don't dine there. We support our own cultures & people... unfortunately, very few Creole eateries & restaurants... & all those who worked there. Now they call themselves Black or African American & have almost no class. Creoles had class & class is ones character, nothing to do with all that bling & distasteful, even vulgar manner. WE MISS OUR CREOLES & all their shades & cuteness & gracious manner.
So grateful we have an outlet to share our identity
I've learned more than I could've learned through conventional means.
My grand father was from Louisiana he looked like a white man to me. My mother told us he was Creole. He left Louisiana for Chicago and never really told them about his family in Louisiana and never looked back. My grandmother was dark skinned and she looked like Diahann Carrol and he made sure she never allowed their kids to say “good hair” or “faire skin”. I always wondered why he never discussed his culture. We can’t even find our relatives.
a lot of my grandmothers people moved to Chicago, theyre Balthazars and she was born in Cloutierville. I wouldve never known if i didn’t ask my mom its sad how some things are just lost to us this way
@@mariemcmuscles im related to Balthazar/Baltazars from Cloutierville aswell..Rachal,LaCour Metoyer...if u ever come down to New Orleans..hmu Coo'za
Multigenerational mixed people have always been set apart in white dominant societies and used globally through out history to maintain white dominance. North America is the only place that went by a one drop rule. I lived in Louisiana for several years and knew of a small Creole community where everyone had intermarried so much they were genetic and cognitive issues prominent there. I knew a woman who was adopted (she was biracial) to bring in new blood in the community. Her adopted parent's were cousins. She said many families did this especially in the 40s, 50s and 60s when white women gave up biracial children for adoption. I dated a woman whose creole father was basically disowned for marrying her black mother.
I totally believe you. Thank you for the history.
disowned - stuff happens- also when U say cousins- are u implying- close? FAMILIES WITH WEALTH AND PROPERTY-married cousins throughout history- example the Rockefeller's and the Roosevelts - married fifth and sixth cousins- goggle it-. your statements are not OF substance REGARDING COGNITIVE ISSUES. tHANK U
Not the 1950 etc. anymore- Is there some IRRATION from u now? Respectfully- Please Be More ACCEPTING- Note the tendency for successful Bruhs - to marry white women and Creoles- and some sisters to have blond extensions and adopt French names(trending-CURRENTLY)-- the
YOU TUBE has again deleted much of my posts- To summarize- I express the fact that the world is more tolerant and that live and let live - I will and just chill and be mmore accepting- I will be what and whom I want to be- regardless of color- let us see if the erase this- haha
Really insightful doc. For some time I've wanted to know more about. Cheers!
I never really got into this ( my) culture until I moved to Houston, Tx and I always had some “explaining” to do. They thought I was from the Caribbean because of my enunciation of some words. Also how I always referred to myself as dark skinned. It wasn’t until then that I realized that the creole culture is really segmented from the rest of the country.
Did you get people asking you if you were from "the islands?" I got that a lot when I was a child.
@@thegrandmasabrina yep… I still get asked that..
@@GlorytalkswithAmberJ It happens to my parents and especially my grandparents a lot. I'm like the interpreter.
When I was in Houston I told them I was Creole also. I’m white. They were confused. Apparently they are unaware that Creole is not a race or ancestry and that there are white Creoles, mixed race creoles and black Creoles in Louisiana. They were unaware that Creole in Louisiana means to be Louisiana born of old world race (Europe OR Africa OR Asia OR any combination of any of these) for people, or grown in Louisiana for produce (such as Creole tomato), or made in Louisiana for food cuisine and culture.
This was very well done. Informative and educational. I have family living on Cane River about a mile from the Catholic
Church. Though we are of Irish decent we have many creole friends. I think they are fascinating people. And I hold them in high regard.
Only so called Blacks, many of who were Indians, are said to be slaves? There were white slaves, called indentured.
The vast majority were Africans
@@d.d.sarason8749 the vast majority were Haitian which this documentary doesn’t mention at all, & also Native American. This is why we don’t like caucasians telling our stories. They omit & gloss over everything to appease a certain audience.
Haiti is made up of 95% African descendants
I have heard a lot of people criticize The way history is told by Caucasians. ( I myself have done this and I am A proud African American) but our ancestors didn’t have an alphabet before colonialism. Native Americans or West African. Our history is told mainly by stories. This happened after the invention of the printing press and media. I know that white folks have bent history, but somethings are pretty accurate
Wonderful history of ancestors 🙏⚕️🌟🕊
Some came out of SC, like one of my lines. In SC they were labeled Redbones, Portuguese, Turks, Brass Ankles, Buckheads. There is even a community called 'Creeltown', in SC, who identity as Native Indigenous. Some of these SC families migrated to Louisiana as well. Same bloodlines, different labels depending on the area. Some labels were derogatory and were created by some whites.
Not the same at all. Without the Cajun French heritage you're not a creole.
@@melissarobi. I have French heritage, but I'm not Creole. Let me clarify by saying similar bloodlines or mix.
@@melissarobi
Creoles in South East Louisiana dont have Cajun heritage
@@curlycocoa2239
You completely misunderstood me.
I responded to Life As a Cajun Princess saying "without Cajun French heritage you're not a Creole".
That's what's wrong!
Most Creoles in South East Louisiana dont have Cajun heritage because in River Parishes their mix was mainly German not French but they all spoke French amd the Crwoles in New Orleans were mostly directly from France not Canada. Maybe in Plaquemines amd St. Bernard they have more Canadian heritage, Im not sure.
So my point was that what she said wasn't true not that no SELA Creoles didnt have Cajun heritage.
@@curlycocoa2239
Whats the cultural differences between African Americans of New Orleans and Creoles?
I'am a descendant of Cane River Creoles, I also share a great grandfather with Marie Theresa Coincoin. Lt.Remi Poissot the man who raised her was her grandfather.
My mom is doing ancestry and I also think she said she’s related to her also, this is interesting history at its finest
Such beautiful people and my friends 😇
Louisiana's Creoles are obviously very different Creoles, My Maternal Granny was from Northeast Louisiana what is Indian Territory. She often spoke of the mixture amongst people in the northern part of the state as well. It seem to be a strong connection to Catholicism for many of the Creoles in Southern Louisiana now according to a number of historical documents the word Creole refers to anyone born in the colony of Louisiana.
Great documentary.
Being from Texas , though { we are from Texas on the Texas, Louisiana, border ) I myself are not creole, my best friends are Cajuns ...they taught me about their heritage food , and the love for Zeideco, creole music ...NO THEY , ARE not forgotten ..we will never forget what we have learned ...they will never ever be forgotten..lol plus the fact I was taught cooking from them , and I will teach this to my daughter and grandchildren also .
DALE. A very healthy, sane attitude. Accept the other person as an individual and learn from him or her
Golden Triangle?
Zydeco music?
My father is from cane river, Torbert to be exact. I love my creole!!❤️🎉
Good Evening to ALL ! I teach in the Monroe, La area.I am searching for a great Air B and B or bread and breakfast for December 8th-10th. My family plans to attend the Natchitoches Christmas Lights Festival, gospel and zydeco concerts, lighted boat parade, tour of homes, etc. Please share any leads. I sure would appreciate it. Monica P. Poole
And that is wear my Father was born in North Louisiana
Cane river is one of my favorite books
Ashley, finished it, rereading now. Odd this post comes up.
Me too! I loved the whole series.
I looked lovingly at a photo of my beloved late grandmother and creole immediately jumped to mind🙄💖💖 However, I was shot down quickly by my mother who said, "Oh no, she was not creole." I looked at her expecting an explanation but got none. Puzzles me to this day. I KNOW what I saw, and I saw creole.
You mean mixed race.
Angela - if not Creole, then what??? Gosh I want to know. I'm White & love & miss my Creoles & their culture, fading, being displaced by Spanish Latino too. We have got to keep our French on! French was spoken because it was a universal language, as English is now. So rich, beautiful French, old French too. Do you think her definition of Creole was different? You gotta get answers. Don't stop until you do. KEEP YA CREOLE ON, dawlin!
Such BEAUTIFUL people…..wow.
I love fishing Cane River...real fine people along its banks...
So, most of the Creoles won't be getting any Reparations in California if or when it is a done deal?
I am African American. My ancestors worked hard for everything they got. They had no advantages. I am proud of them and the descendants they made possible. I understand that Creole people want to b e recognized. They have my permission to be separate from African Americans.
African or "American"? There must be something more, A+!
There is documentation in Spain and other parts of the world that classified their African slaves as Creole and they were not of mixed race which is why you have blacks that also call themselves Creole. Some Haitian people call themselves Creole too.
@@iwazarlayahrevelationprodu4860 You are correct.... Original meaning Raised/Bred .. anyone born in Louisiana. Transitioned to mixed race French and African... Then cast/status. Has nothing to do with skin color or eye color
They don't need it.
Those SAME people are our ancestors too we just have several. Why is that hard to understand?
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I’m blessed with it and I love it
Creoles are a wonderfully culturally rich people. Very welcoming and very warm. While stationed in New Orleans in the Navy I had the privilege of being invited into their lives with open arms. Love the bayou and their music. I, for one, am a northerner from the North Coast of Ohio of Italian, Scott-Irish and Cherokee Indian heritage.
That is because you are WHITE. They wouldn't spit on a black non-Creole person even if they were on fire. Nice try though.
@@Dutchess80 What are you talking about? I know many creoles married to American blacks and I’ve met creoles of all colors and ethnic backgrounds especially since I’m a creole myself with two racially mixed parents. You sound jealous
Well thank you very much. I’m a white Louisiana Creole (white Louisianian of Creole heritage) and I take your compliment as an honor.
Here learning my heritage
Creole comes from the Spanish word Criollo= Mixed, Creoles seems in USA are White and Black Mixes which could also be called Mulattos or Métis.The Manitoba Métis are French-Canadian Voyageurs or Coureurs de Bois mixed with mostly Algonquin Natives. In Haiti Blacks speak French Créole it has nothing in common with Cajun or Acadien/Québecois accents.
Jurg Bangerter - Also, until not that long ago, French was a universal language used globally. Now its English. So the same applies, as just because we speak English doesn't mean we're English, any more than speaking French means one is French.
And was just reading on Algonquin near Roanoke claim they're descendants are European.
Yes, the French in the New World used Créole as a copied term from the Spanish in the New World that used Criollo for their white Spanish descendants born in the new world. The French used it for their white descendants born in the new world. In the French New World areas, mixed race people and black people also were included as Creoles the same as whites. Creole in Louisiana means to be a Louisiana born person of old world race (Europe OR Africa OR Asia OR any combination of any of these). To be a Louisiana Creole if any race, one must be born in Louisiana, that’s the prerequisite. Creole in Louisiana has always been a synonym for “local”.
My family is also mixed mainly from alabama though. We had an uncle trace our ancestry and located a relative of spanish ancestry who proves we are all connected, brothers and sisters if you will. My immediate family is also mixed and on my paternal grandfathers side and also mothers side " plenty of cherokee, blackfoot and one more i believe crow not certain but positive of " african amer." and So very proud of All my ancestry which i was told included perhaps polynesian.
The French owned parts of Alabama that were once part of the Louisiana Colony (La Louisiane) and Mobile holds a special place in that. In Mobile, there were white Creoles, mixed race Creoles and black Creoles just like other parts of French Alabama. When the British took over Mobile, a huge migration of Mobile Creoles (whites and blacks and mixed race) migrated to Louisiana. I’m a white Louisiana Creole from the New Orleans area and many of us have some ancestry from those French Mobile migrants including myself. Mobile and New Orleans are deeply connected all throughout history in the 1700’s and 1800’s and share culture, cuisine and blood.
I remember a Creole Lady from New Orleans,,, her name was Barbara,,,i was a little girl,,ms Barbara was a beautiful lady,,,, so tiny, with Blue/Black wavy shiny hair,,, she had about 13 kids,,, I always wonder where she is today …that was the 60’s,,,,
Interesting, that she can tell a Creole from a mile away, seeing that they go from white to black. Being a Creole from Louisiana myself, just saying
Art to heart!!
So this is where passing came from?
@@sandrastafford658 Oh well I wouldn't say that. People were passing for white up in the 13 colonies, before they ever purchased Louisiana.All you had to do was move where no one knew you. All the way back in Europe, before the racism stuff started,They were doing it
@@curlycocoa2239 First who are you talking about?Second who says the the majority of their bloodline was European?
@@curlycocoa2239 Your name implies something else, but are you one of the white French Creoles?
I'm from east Texas and luckily I can travel to the cane River area with just a 3 or 4 hour drive. I go every cpl years. If you get the opportunity, I highly suggest a vist.
I'm Puerto Rican and my family mixed between West African Black (congo), Taino (native) and Spaniard ain't us Puerto Ricans almost like the creoles and we have French influence in Mayaguez when the French plantation owners escaped the Hatian revolution and brought their slaves with them to West PR and East Cuba....we mixed 2 hundred years before Louisiana was a French colony...am I bugging to think that Puerto Ricans and Creoles of color are kind of similar?
I think you would be considered creole. During the colonial era, a creole was anyone born into the colony, and not from the mother land of Spain, France , Portugal, etc..
This man acknowledged his African ancestry. What in your other statement about no one caring about Africa is once again proven to be facetious
@@d.d.sarason8749 most Puerto Ricans we know we mixed cause these DNA test results prove it all of the time...btwn black, Indian and white
@Asaseya18 if new Orleans creoles are mixed with Indian, Black and White and Puerto Ricans are mixed with Indian, Black and White...than what's the difference? Besides one speaks french and the other speak Spanish....when they both speak English now
Fascinating
Important information for Public Historians whose expertise is the years 1750 ff.
Cajun/nior from Acadia/Mi'maw our rez is in Maine. 266 years & still being treated as 2nd class citizen within North America. Denied entry into Nova Scotia this spring time to amend the Canadian Bill of Rights to include Cajun...merci Quebec pour benvenue moi!!
My grandma was Louisiana creole and Filipino and black and Native American Portuguese and French before she died last year she was proud of it❤
I love the differences in these peopleI love to learn this
I guess Cane River Creoles are different then Creoles of SW La. I never heard the term white Creole in Acadiana whites are Cajuns
Yea I got family from natchitoches and it's the only place I've met white people who identified as creoles not Cajuns.
4:28 well said she's exactly right
What I see here is a denial of their African ancestry or to push it back as far as they can , they seem to be very proud of their French ancestry. Who cares if Creole built things, progressed, black skinned people did to. So you see how the race reminded these so creoles, mix race that the creole basically started from an African race. Keep saying they were French and totally neglecting African. I’m never going to my neglect my African ancestry, never and I’m 1/4 white, so glad the majority of my DNA is African. African what a great ancestry, what a great history.
Sad.....yes that black blood is beautiful
agreed
Those people only have French and Spanish ancestors because of slavery which means slaves did not consent. They were property and were used at the discretion of the owners. So what they are glorifying is rape. The lighter skinned creole were taught that they were better then the darker African slaves that they came from. Smh. I was raised in the 90's most creole identified as black.
Sigh!! The desire to be white is real........
It's not true that they started as African. Mu family started out as "white."
I am extremely proud to be creole
What the man said from abt 13:20 to 14:00 minutes in was a profound statement that needs to be heard in the times we live in today. We'll said.
The Creoles would probably be known mostly in Latin America as mulatos (the Spanish term for "mulattoes") because that's what they are for the most part: not entirely white and not entirely black. But Anglo Americans were always opposed to the mixture of races, which was considered to be illegal until recent times in the US.
Creole is not a race or ancestry. The term Creole in Latin America is known as Criollo and it also describes white Latin Americans as well as mixed ones and black ones. It’s the same in Louisiana, there are white creoles, black Creoles and mixed race Creoles. There are two types of mixed race Creoles in Louisiana, the mulatre (mulato) and métis (mestizo). Creole in Louisiana means to be a local Louisiana person. A Louisiana Creole is a person born in Louisiana of any old world race (Europe OR Africa OR Asia OR any combination of any of those). I’m a white Louisiana Creole. My ancestors were part of the Louisiana colony and I’m not mixed race at all. I’m white. What makes me Creole is my Louisiana birth and my old world lineage, not my race. Creole is not a race or ancestry.
I am from texas but i am a cane river creole. My last name is Balthazar and my great grandparents last names are, Balthazar and Daniel(Capone) , Llorens and Metoyer
My maternal grandmother is from Cane River. The family names were Delphin and Beaudoin.
I am a proud Louisiana Creole!❤
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beautiful and informative program. unfortunately, from some of the comments , haters abound.
Cool, so, like the Métis! Wish Louisiana and the States at large had a similar policy to Canada with regard to the Métis Nation and the Mitchif language. Great documentary, and I wish good vibes!
Genre, facque c'est comme les métis ! Hâte de voire l'implementation par la Louisiane pis le reste des États-Unis des politiques similaires aux telles canadiennes visant la nation métisse et la langue mitchif. Excellent reportage, pis bon courage dans l'avenir de votre culture !
edit : Bien sur pas exactement le même que les Métis. Les circonstances étaient ben trop différent là. Of course not exactly like the Métis. Their situations were/are totally different (juste, la similarité est striking)
Is this the story that the book Cane River ~ Lalita Tademy is based on?
Being Creole is similar to the Melungeons of Tennessee/Virginia/Carolina/Kentucky they are a mix of African/Native American/European. Many had European features with dark skin. Some have had DNA tests tracing genealogy back to the White Lion ship of 1619 in Virginia.
Respect- but no similarity
I very much enjoyed this documentary. Quite honestly, I love culture, and I really did not totally understand the diversity of the Creole people.
As a DESCENDANT I will be educating myself of what a creoles person is whatghey come to as a mixed race heritage and also how did the word creoles even come about
IAM A WOMAN OF COLOR AND PROUD OF IT
Creoles and Mestizos are the people formed by the union of Europeans, Native Americans and Africans. It happened all over America. It's anathema to Anglo Europeans that people can be more than one thing. These were the first Latinos. A mixture of American, European and African.
Marcello Orellana - Ohhh please, I'm White, American lineage to 1600's & WE LOVE OUR CREOLES because they share the same values as we do. They are high culture, Catholic Christian high standards. Its just nasty of you to assume Whites are the problem. Puhleez. The biggest enemy of Creoles that we experience are Blacks. Its the Blacks that are envious of Creoles. Creoles & Whites have the same values. Creoles have good strong character, would never be vulgar like Blacks have become, never would Creoles go so low as to abandon their children the way Blacks do. I think its their strong Christian Catholic faith which keeps them high above those who wish to tear them down.
Thank you for the reply which is right on point!
You’re describing mixed race creoles. I’m a white Louisiana Creole and my race is white. My ancestors were part of colonial Louisiana. A creole in Louisiana means to be a person born in Louisiana of any old world race (Europe OR Africa OR Asia OR any combination of any of those). Creole in Louisiana is synonymous with being a local or local food or local culture or local produce or local animals.
This was amazing! South Louisiana resident here also of French creole descent… the passion and wholeheartedness of this just made my heart smile!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Are you French Creole or Creole of Color or Afro-Creole? French Creoles are white people of French descent, Creoles of Color are mixed race people of European and African descent and Afro-Creoles are black people. Which are you?
@@IslenoGutierrez both! My mothers side of the family’s descendants are from Quebec. On my fathers side of the family his father is from Haiti and my grandmothers father & mother both had a Native American parent…
The creoles were successful planters and many had great plantations.
So much history about my family…shouts to my Metoyers…