Evan Rachel Wood on Joining 'Frozen 2' and LGBTQ Representation in Disney Films
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Evan Rachel Wood voices Queen Iduna, the mother of Elsa and Anna, in "Frozen 2." She talks about how she cried when she got the role and weighs in on when we'll see an LGBTQ lead character in a Disney animated movie.
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the interviewer looks like the old guy from Up.
BLOOP haha
i'm sorry. Do you know what Disney Films Evan love? With Tim Curry. i didn't hear (
3:23 "There isnt a villain, the villain is just us getting in our own ways" NEW FAV ANIMATED GENRE 😭 (honorable mention: wreck it ralph 2)
I think that if Disney wants to create a Lesbian lead in a movie, they should just make a whole new movie and character up. I love the way Frozen 2 ended without Elsa wanting or needing a love interest. It’s been really refreshing seeing that theme in Frozen, Brave, and Moana and I’d be disappointed to see them suddenly change that. Children don’t really need the romance at young ages.
THATS SO TRUE. Especially ur last sentence. Totally agree 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I cannot disagree.
Non gay Frozen is for ordinary ppl like us.
*cough* *cough* well see ... *cough*
agree.. and not everything has to be LGBT.
I think what's being failed to mention here is that representation comes in all forms. Why can't we talk about the fact that Elsa ALREADY represents women who are uninterested in romance - who are happy being single? It's hard to grow up and become an adult and realize that romance just isn't your thing, especially in such a romance-obsessed world. Elsa is GREAT representation for women like this, and yet people assume she's a lesbian (which there were NO hints at - not even implications) in order to fit the "reality" they want to see it. I agree there should be a lesbian princess, but she needs to have her own special story. Elsa is not it. She's already great representation for women who may feel self-conscious about being single, despite being happy otherwise. Assuming she's a lesbian to fit a narrow narrative squashes all other perspectives and undermines the ability of many people to be cool with being single.
I think not only women, but all people who feel like this are represented by her.
It could even apply to just people who are single. To tell any man or woman that it’s OK if you don’t have a lover, so long as you’ve accepted yourself.
@@Stinger913 I agree
Yesss 🙌🏻 why take representation form one group just to suddenly give it to another when it makes no sense with the story line? Totally agree, I love Elsa the way she is and I got total closure of everything in that movie. People just trying to push and make a point as usual though 🙄
Because Elsa represented self love for 2 movies, and now she could find out shes gay its fucking obvious. why are u against giving elsa a love interest as if there havent been disney main leads without a love interest before ie Moana. Now when gay ppl ask for rep u want to take it away from them? Also it fits Elsa's story arc perfectly for her to have a romantic love interest in the next movie. she finally accepts herself which means she can accept others in her life romantically
So... Just because a female character in a Disney movie doesn't have male love interest, the assumption is that she's a lesbian (see the reference to Mulan in the video)? Does every character need a love interest to be complete? I realize that Disney has set their own standard for this going back to Snow White and Cinderella. But must we reinforce the completeness of human value being found in whether or not a person has a romantic love interest? Can't a character just be a strong person without us demanding to know the production company's intent behind their sexuality?
Ikr? I see a lot of contradiction because the same people that claim that a woman has to be independent and needs no man assume that Elsa is a lesbian just because she is single and wants her to have a gf, why cant she be alone? no man and no woman, it triggers me that they say she needs no man but somehow she needs a gf, like no, she can be alone, she doesnt need a love interest, also it can teach kids that they dont need to have a gif o bf to feel complete or something, the rom love part in the movie is for Anna and Kristoff, for Elsa is selflove
I would go so far to say it’s not even self-love. I’m not a huge fan of that term, but that’s another discussion for another day. I put it more along the lines of just being secure in one’s own personhood apart from sexuality. We overvalue and idolize sexuality. Plus, simply put, in Frozen 1 & 2, it’s just not part of the storyline. It’s not the point of the movie so it doesn’t matter.
People talk about this because it's an opportunity for representation and representation is important. Showing kids it's ok to be gay or trans or ace or whatever they feel they are is important.
@Joshua Stringer
Agreed. Well put!
100% agree. I think Disney should be keeping things more child-appropriate and ditch the romance in every single princess movie because there are so many other lessons to be learned. I really loved that it wasn’t included for Elsa in Frozen 2, or in Moana! It was refreshing, kids don’t need to focus on romance. It’s the only time in life where it has little to no relevance.
Just because Elsa doesn't have a male love interest doesn't mean she's into women. I support the LGBTQ and all but don't you think all Elsa needs is self-love? If you really dig deep into her character, there are a lot of people who loves her, who looks up to her and the last love she needed to receive from someone to close that final gap in her heart is herself. Take "Show Yourself" as an example, the song was about Elsa trying to find the person she's waited for, the person who is able to answer her unanswered questions and the the part where her mom sings, 'You are the one you've been waiting for" and Elsa replies "All of my life" this lyric resonates so much about self-acceptance and to be able to finally love yourself all these years. Those scars and fears she gained for the past years, turns out that the only person who can fix that was herself.
I disagree ppl always say that Elsa cant be lesbian bc they want her to be alone but no one ever said this after the 1st movie, theyre only saying it now bc they dont want elsa to be gay. if ur intentions were pure i would agree, but telling gay ppl to fuck off after they have a SLIGHT chance of having gay elsa is so damagaing. .
@@kingkylie9655 I think you misunderstood me. I never ever intended to ask those gay people to back off. In my opinion I think the whole part of the fandom asking Elsa to have a girlfriend is too forced at this point. Wether you've seen the first movie or the second Elsa clearly just don't show interest in romance. Even the director of Frozen stated that 'Elsa isn't ready to be in a relationship just yet'. I just mentioned I support the LGBTQ right? OKAY! basically what I'm trying to say is that regardless of who Elsa ends up with a guy or a girl having her get a romantic interest ruins her reputation as the iconic strong independent Disney princess/character. I don't know where you got offended but there is nothing wrong with being queer/asexual
@@idontevenhaveapla7224 in my opinion it isnt about homosexual and heterosexual anymore. Can't people who wants to stay single or asexual not have their own rights? Personally I think the creators from the beginning had intended Elsa to stay as that strong and independent character and i think its best to stay that way. If Disney really wants to have an LGBTQ princess then they can always start it from scratch.
I completely agree with elsa it doesn't really matter her sexuality her story is already giving a great message, but It piss me off when people say we don't need lgbt representation in animated movies because kids don't need romance n politics, like hello!! All disney movies are about love only difference its all straight so its just some bullshit homophobes say, in my opinion kids movies should be more like frozen where self love and family love is the main thing, kids shouldn't be taught that the most important love they'll have is with a prince or a princess, but since anyways this is not happening and all kids movies has love i don't see the harm of having lgbt representation as well cause its just love at the end
@@undertheseatv can you stop saying strong independent because that doesn't mean single, my mom is a strong independent women so is my sister they're both married, independent literally just mean she's not dependent on someone else to save her provide for her etc, it doesn't mean single!!
Love love love her. Been a huge fan since thirteen and across the universe which is still a favorite of mine.
As a person who is bi, I personally believe that the idea of her having an interest in women feels kinda forced. I mean if Disney wants that go for it but I'm just saying that if you want an LGBTQ+ character, work from the ground up. Now it doesn't have to be the plot of the story but just give us aspects of their experience throughout the whole story. However, the real reason why I feel it's kinda forced is because it feels like they're just putting it in there so that they don't have people protesting that there isn't one, and how they just want to do it just for the sake of people not getting mad. I'm just speaking from my own opinion so don't attack me for it, plus there is freedom of speech, so legally I can say this.
Lana Villegas I so agree, people like to forget freedom of speech and the freedom to have opinions and beliefs. They just say “you are homophobic” to shut people up 🙄 which clearly you aren’t, and neither am I. I hate how you even have to put “I am bi” to defend yourself from the crazies.
In my opinion, I think Elsa is far off better being single. Not saying that she doesn't deserve love but saying that Elsa's whole character development is about self love and self acceptance. I think giving her a love interest regardless of gender would ruin her iconic character. I fully respect LGBTQ+ cause I am one of them, and I think Elsa is a queer at this point, which means Q in the LGBTQ+ society. She just isn't interested to be in a relationship and is unsure of her gender. Yes I do think there should be more shows that should tell the audiences that its okay to be gay or bisexual or transgender or etc. but I think there should also be more shows that represents self respect and learning to overcome your insecurities as a person and just learn to love yourself for who you are and I think Elsa is the best representation of that. I'd be excited to see Disney pull off an gay princess but I just don't think Elsa is cut out for that role, if she does get a love interest (again, regardless of gender) that doesn't give her justice. She's just going to be another Anna. From my point of view, Elsa never gave me lesbian vibes though, she was just trying to fit in the world and the only person who she could open up to was Anna at first at least. Then she learned to love and accept more people in her life but to really fix the scars and trauma she got from her past was accepting love from herself. What I think Frozen 2 was trying to sell wasn't to tease fans that Elsa is going to get a love interest in the sequel but about self discovery and self esteem. I'll admit that I've been a Jelsa shipper since 2013 but I do respect the Elsamaren shippers out there but after watching Frozen 2 it made me realise that the only partner Elsa needed in her life was herself.
Musix Magix examples of Elsa questioning her gender please?? I didn’t see one in either movie, she seems very happy in her femininity. The pants part was so that she could run, which overcomes the typical “princess stereotype” like Mulan also did.
Angela D. Okay let me rephrase that “Not interested in exploring her sexuality nor be in a romantic relationship”
Musix Magix gotcha, I definitely agree
I'm just waiting for the interviewer to start singing What A Wonderful World
I feel like Shang is more likely to be bi rather than Mulan lol.
It's not that I want specifically Elsa to be queer. But I just wish someone was. No one will ever see a gay character on TV and _turn_ gay. Rather kids will learn that this is a character that they love who just happens to be gay. And it's absolutely fine. Disney has been such a huge part of our childhood. An lgbt character will help kids learn compassion and grow up to be decent human beings. What's wrong with that?
Ipshita LMAO... REACHING! Shang was definitely not bi... don’t make the story something it wasn’t. He fell in love with Mulan AFTER he found out she was a female, and fell in love seeing her loyalty and courage to her family and to China. He hated Mulan the majority of the time she was dressed as a man until she proved she could make the cut. There was no hidden meaning.
I am really curious why people try to bend character to the way they like??? Why we have to forcefully make existing characters gay even this means ruining the characters? What made it so “difficult” to just create a new gay character anyways??? Just leave the existing characters as they are. I am really sick of the race/gender/sexual orientation swapping trend in the film industry
I totally agree that we shouldn't assume these characters' sexuality when they are shown as straight in the movies. The thing is Disney has about 200 movies with zero important characters in the sexuality/gender spectrum. Almost 4.5% of the world population (which is more than 300 million people) are out and visible lgbt+ and there are millions of people living in the closet all around the world. So 200 Disney films should've had a queer character. Now I also agree that I would be great if they would just make a new princess who is gay. But we don't see Disney working on that. So we look for representation wherever we can. It's not ideal and we know it. I don't get why you think that Elsa being gay will 'ruin' her character. Other princesses fall in love with guys and beasts and frogs, and you think two women falling in love will ruin character? The existing characters around you, your family members, friends who you've know for years, some of them are lgbt+, whether they told you or not. No one 'forcefully makes them gay', they just are.
Ipshita 4.5% is actually a U.S. percentage, not the “world population” percentage. And there are a lot more than 300 million people in the world. You might want to check your numbers before writing them as facts. Lol. I’m cringing.
The problem with that is it just recently became legal & socially acceptable (to some people- not everyone in the world) to identify as lgbtq. The percentages have also grown since its become accepted. So to say that all those movies should’ve included an lgbtq character is ridiculous considering people would’ve protested it.
Ipshita im pretty certain that’s who she was referring to. THAT BI ENERGY THOOOO!!! Bless.
I want a love story between iduna and agnarr. A short movie! 😭❤️❤️ My Favorites ❤️❤️
i'm sorry. Do you know what Disney Films Evan love? With Tim Curry. i didn't hear (
Sadly, there aren't any films about them yet but, if you're interested, there is a book about Agnarr and Iduna. It's called "Frozen 2: Dangerous Secrets". :)
One of the great actors of her generation
When she said clue I was like aww just a week ago I starred in it on stage
Clue is definitely a re-watchable movie over and over. You know how the night pans out but there's always that subtle act or phrase that arises that you haven't caught on before.
Ok that's enough. There has been a big war on web since 2016 when people asked to Disney to give Elsa a girlfriend in Frozen 2. This didn't happen because Jennifer Lee said that Elsa needed to focus on herself. She probably won't make another sequel. So now let Elsa be single, peace and love. I'm sure that Disney will make another movie with LGBT character
i never get bored of first Mulan Movie XD
All of a sudden people are against "gay elsa" because they think having a love interest will ruin her character? Its so funny how if Elsa were straight everything would be fine! But the single time anyone mentions Elsa should have a girlfriend its "NO!! SHE SHOULDNT BE LOVED! NO I WANT HER SINGLE! MAN OR NO ONE! CHINA IS AGAINST IT!" nigga what.... Anna has Kristoff but since Elsa went through self-love character development for 2 movies out of the franchise if her story centres around accepting OTHERS into her life romantically and it possibly being a WOMAN (clearly, elsa has major gay vibes) why isnt that okay? Nevermind all the hate and homophobia, and censorship Disney will face because to be honest that will just go away after a year or 2, but it would mean the world to gay people who have never had a lgbt main in a Disney movie for over 70 years. If ur against it bc u hate the idea "story wise" well suck it up, gay people deserve rep at the expense of fucking up a story tbh and it WOULDNT EVEN mess up the story too like thats the part that kills me!
I agree with this soooo much you have no idea. Thank you for voicing this out because a lot of people have been saying how "not everything has to be gay" yet they fail to realise that the majority of everything is straight and that we are the ones that are lacking in representation. Therefore we are the ones that should be saying "not everything has to be straight"
@@idontevenhaveapla7224 that is perfect too, no one is saying no to that. Myself for example, im just open to all of the possibilities. I will be okay with elsa being herself truly no matter what her sexuality is. Although i will say that in my opinion, frozen 2 was written very beautifully the way it is and did not need any romance on elsa's behalf written in the plot because that wasn't the point of the movie.
@@idontevenhaveapla7224 also i wanted to say that if somehow there is a frozen 3 and elsa turns out to be in a relationship, that wouldn't ruin her character or her independence or anything. Her being in a relationship does not define who she is and i think refraining her from being in a relationship just because you don't want her iconic self image to be lost will be ridiculous. If she turns out to be an asexual character then i would most definitely understand and be completely okay with it because no one is refraining her from anything and she's the one making the call. If she simply just doesn't want to be in a relationship i would also be okay with it. As long as she's the one making the call. I mean, that has always been her character's personality anyways since she discovered self love. I don't see how the way other people look at her and judge her should control her character in any way. If that's the case only then her character will be "ruined". Because her character wouldn't be true to her character anymore.
Omg shut up please, you sound so petty 🙄 It would take away representation from people who choose not to marry, who are asexual. Is that not okay? You are so obsessed with the idea of “eLsA NeEdS tO bE gAY” that you forget that some people are happy without a love interest.
But you probably think you’re so damn inclusive 🙄 she’s already that way and people are invested in the series. Everyone loves the way she is, it’s not all about “meaning the world” to one minority’s group. Start a new one for people who want a gay character to invest in. 🤦🏼♀️
@@ad4029 I mean, asexuality isn't a choice and it doesn't mean not getting married, but you got the gist. And also, I mean... Elsa gives off no gay vibes, whatsoever, at all? Everything she does and everything she says expresses no sexual or romantic interest, and she even explicitly says so multiple times. Forcing her to be gay would just mean retconning her whole character so far.
She's ok by herself. Gay princesses can definitely exist and be a thing, but they should also show romantic interest in other women. Not just be lesbians because they maybe don't care for being paired up with men. Actually, if I was a lesbian I'd take that as an insult. A lesbian character is going to be pining and wanting to be in a romantic relationship with another woman. They're not going to reject romantic expectations over and over and say explicitly "I'm the one I was waiting for because nobody else was able to fullfill my most primary emotional needs, because nobody else can - no matter how hard they may try". Like, that's not a lesbian experience.
She is a great actress.👍
Often times when a studio has limitations on how it can represent a character it will leave it up for interpretation. You can see Elsa either way, she was left up to audience interpretation there is no one way to interpret her so y'all are fighting eachother for no reason. But it is useful to expose homophobes tho
max s In the official Disney comics, Elsa was seen dancing with a man and enjoying it, but she isn't one for relationships, so it didn't go any further than that. Plus, what do you mean by "expose the homophobes"? I genuinely think Elsa should stay single and without a girlfriend, so am i homophobic?
@@yurikatsuki5130 I doubt that's what was meant, and think it's more along the lines of finding homophobes who say that it'd be inappropriate for Elsa to have a girlfriend. If she stays single or gets a girlfriend I'd be happy either way, though I hope it's the former as well
Emily Clark technically, I think it's inappropriate for Elsa to have a storyline since it teaches children that only strong women are lesbians. If you look at the media, all they do is praise strong independent princesses as lesbians.
Aww! She's so down to earth.
She is beauty❤️
Well Frozen and Elsa are really huge right now, millions of people look to this franchise and anything with such influence MUST BE HANDLED WITH CARE. I support LGBT+ but with a source of influence as big as this franchise, it's best not to give Elsa any label. Besides, stories dont have to always end with the main character settling with a love interest to have a happy ending, people ask for progess yet they still stick with this "couple ending" stereotype.
Agreed! I also don’t understand why being LGBTQ makes people feel as though they need to be included in Disney movies to be a part of society and have self-worth though. I don’t live the “normal” life of other people my age but I don’t feel at all insulted that I don’t have representation in Disney movies. It’s all for entertainment, I don’t think it’s done to deliberately include or exclude people, and it doesn’t mean people will suddenly include or reject people whether they are represented in Disney or not...
Yeah. Also there is a sexual orientation that fits Elsa to a T: asexuality. She shows no interest nor any attraction to anyone, and that's the definition of what asexuality means. She's asexual, and aromantic.
Damn, this comment section...
I love the aurora part
i love her ❤
Omg, wanna know what I realized the interviewer guy look like that old guy from a Up!!
1:47 it's like my star wars! I love it!
Oh god why doesn't it matter if character is LGBTQ...is the characters good that's most important
Yea you would watch HiTop films wouldn't you
@@Smurfkobain10 just one video and didn't finish it yet...it was the EndGame one
Ikr? So fucking ridiculous.
Representation is important. Showing kids it's ok to be gay or trans or ace or whatever they feel they are is important.
@@tedwards1025 I get it...but if it's force or flat out poorly written then all is lost and it will fail.
PRINCESS CLOAK PANTS FOR EVANNNN
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#TEAMDOLORES
In case anyone wants Clif Notes on the comment section:
Rational people: “Elsa is great the way she is, let’s just create a new character if people want a gay Disney character.”
Irrational people: “wELL tHaT mEaNs yOu”re hOmOpHoBiC”
Random others:
“We hate straight people”
“We hate gay people”
“This guy looks like the guy from Up!”
This is so accurate, I’m dying!
It is a play lol my school just did it I was mrs white 🤙
But she’s gunna swim in the icy freezing ocean. I should hope she wears pants!!
Wow! You are an AMAZING woman Evan Rachel Wood!!!
LGBT and Disney don't go together.
Underrated actress❤️
Oh, I loved this interview
Mulan was literally straight in canon ........
I don't think she was talking about Mulan
not much, he just lies around on his back all day
Create your own lgbtq centric projects and see how that plays out, and stop appropriating characters to serve the gay agenda.
Fuck off you homophobic bitch Scot.
"Gay Agenda" LOL
Scot i agree %100 . A way to take a good program and gay it up. Damn make there own channel leave are's alone,.,.
Yeah. The LGBT community need to make their own cartoons and characters.
I didn't realize you could appropriate fictional characters. Headass.
Ok 🙄 virtue signaling
Well at least Iduna is bi.
OK. So I hope if frozen 3 comes, I would love to see the past of their PARENTS. PL E ASE
Please don't connect Frozen with LGBTQ, it's disgusting! Elsa is too pure for that!
Hell yeah you're right. Who cares about romance anyway? As long as the story is good, I don't care about romance in Frozen. They can't just ruin my favourite movie of all times. Right?
They have a good thing so why change it anyways? It’s not very kind to call people disgusting though. You can disagree without insulting, we are all human beings. This is what’s wrong with today’s world in a nutshell. People on here calling people “homophobic” on one side and then calling gays “disgusting” on another side 🤦🏼♀️
for the love of God make it stop 🤦🏼♀️
@batsha Sorry, but facts don't care about feelings.
@@ad4029 You are right, I wasn't paying attention to my words. I didn't mean it to insult people, just the actions of "promoting LGBTQ in Frozen". I'm sorry, but I actually got a cold shoulder from friends who loved LGBTQ, and all I did was simply not celebrating with them ;/
cat lover
it actually is rude, it’s name calling. Who are you to decide how people feel about being labeled?? People do take offense to that, just like they would being called disgusting.
If someone called you heterophobic or acephobic because you can’t handle a straight or ace Elsa you’d probably think they were annoying too.
PS “homophobia” doesn’t really exist. It’s a made up term to divide people: Not many people are truly “afraid” of gays. That’s absurd. Treat everyone the same, even if you don’t agree with them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and not everyone has to agree. If the lgbtq movement isn’t someone’s cup of tea, suck it up and don’t label them.
I have 4 children myself, and if you didn’t agree with having that many kids and even didn’t like kids, I wouldn’t call you “pedophobic” (that’s a real word btw- lol), I just wouldn’t care and keep going with my life with my 4 kids. Labeling is stupid and dividing. Maybe if we all didn’t label each other and realize that we can all have different beliefs the world wouldn’t have such disgusting division.
Why do you want me to show homosexuality to kids ? To confuse them about sexuality ? .... Disney should not be involved into gender identity and politics and just focus on story telling and cartoons for kids....
Yves Benini its more confusing to be a kid and liking someone “you are not supposed to” and grow up with fears. Like being hated by your family or friends. The fear of never being “normal”
Because homosexuality is a part of life.
@Revel Heir But portraying homosexuality is not "sexualizing children", or no different than "portraying heterosexuality", specially when we are talking DISNEY movies, which I wouldn't call out for being the sexiest thing. No one's trying to make everyone gay. Except me, studies show.
@Revel Heir "The majority of people in world aren't white therefore white people are abnormal and we shouldn't make movies with them in" your logic
@@Patmorgan235Us Skin color can't change, whereas one can be nurtured or nurture themselves over time to become attracted to, well, pretty much anything nowadays.
The hard truth is that disney won’t make a gay Disney lead until China changes their ways.
#teamDolores #Iduna #Evan Rachel Wood great actress #frozen2
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Urghhh Stop.
1st comment?
No
Guys lets not push elsa as gay cuz it ruins the mood for a queen that says u cant marry a person you just met.. Another movie will do guyz
she can be gay stfu
they dont have to get married though
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Great actress it’s a shame that’s she’s so pro lib etc.
It's a shame you're a conservative.
So ? It's not she's hurting you ..such a shame you're ignorant
@@tedwards1025 Can you take your pride flag and shove it up your ignorant ass