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Any more news about those speed upgrades we are supposed to get at the end of year or have they canned that? I'm still stuck on HFC 100 speed, 500 proposed speed increase would be great but even 250 would make a big difference, 3 heavy users in house all trying to stream RUclips at once.
@@TechManPat My friend in Sydney also told me recently that very surprisingly their HFC is now eligible for a FTTP upgrade, which is not what NBN initially plans to do. However, it is still very limited to some suburbs but I could say that NBN DOES want to get rid of HFC very slowly in the future.
Yep, same experience here - Since the fiber switch I’ve had FAR better reliability. I think we’ve had one unexpected outage and even that was very short.
@@flipacoin331I hope so. Our HFC connection (half our suburb has FTTP while we get crappy HFC) has been troublesome and so damn slow. Uploading anything takes too long, sometimes days! It’s unproductive! It’s unfair many of us don’t have FTTP.
Funny how they say there is a demand for FTTP yet we got rolled out a vomit mix of copper and fibre. If only someone could have foreseen this a long time ago.
That wasn’t NBN CO’s fault, blame Rupert Murdoch for that, and various governments for being bribed by him. NBN Co had to rollout the policy of the day
@@mibberz1 wasn't cheaper though. They made the change for political and ideological reasons. For them they managed to turn something that was a no-brainer into a great wedge issue.
@@cragonaut yes , Labor said it will cost 49billion and liberals said 46billion, the liberal mix solution ended up costing 57 billion due to the cost of all the mixed technology that was needed, some of it hadn't even been invented at the time of the election, and it will cost over a extra $20billion to get 80% of homes updated to fttp, currently it is only around 34% when a party offers something nation building and the other party offers the red dot solution, well we got what we voted for, and I remind every Liberal voter of how we went from 3rd fastest internet to 82nd so thankyou, and any of you kids who didn't vote back then, that is what the Liberal Party has always offered.
Found out in mid week in June it was available , spoke to my isp launtel to arrange the upgrade as I was flapping my gums too much with the launtel CSR I missed a friday appointment , had to book it in on the monday. Tech turned up and 3 hours later 1 gig fibre. Happy with the result now need to upgrade my wifi infrastructure to take full advantage. Wire is on spec very happy
I had mine upgraded in May. It works well. I wonder if there'll be more of an effort to replace satellite connections in less remote areas? I know of an area where one side of the street has FTTN and now eligible for an FTTP upgrade, the other side of the street is satellite only. Semi rural sure, but hardly remote.
Found out my location wont be going onto FTTH until after December 2025. I'm in a suburb about 30 km south east of Perth. Its even annoying that I can't even get 5g at home but houses 2 streets away, even in the shopping area there is no 5g and some areas drop to 3g.
Dec 2024 was the date initially, got an email in June that fibre was available. Ordered it, took 4 weeks for the techie to come out, he put the box in, just waiting for another appointment for the trench guy to come to put fibre in from street to house. Seen a few guys the other day installing his starlink dish...obviously he doesn't know he can get a free fibre upgrade lol
After a 2 month shit show since my first appointment i finally got it installed. NBN was meant to send the civil remediation team and they never arrived. They booked a second appointment and amazingly the tech pulled fibre through the blockage the first guy couldn't. Gigabit download is amazing. But the upload is still slow in comparison :(
Yet still the fact that people were screwed over when the NBN started has not been addressed. I had 100mbt cable and when the NBN came in and I was forced onto it, Telstra down graded me to 50mbt and continued to charge me for 100mbt. So I ended up with SLOWER internet. After years of complaints, F all has happened. I am sure I am not the only one who was ripped off by the NBN. It is an f-ing disgrace.
Meanwhile in NZ.. While NBN started its official roll out in 2011, and NZ lagged with its FTTH (officially) in 2014. I was lucky enough to be in a new suburb in 2009 that was a FTTH trial. I doubt I could go back to copper feeds/adsl these days
I have to count myself lucky to have full fiber at my primes for over a year now and pay $100 Per Month. I believe that is is the technology of the future and we should just get as much fiber into the ground the as we can.
I've had nbn since 2013. I just want better upload speed for the love of god. Aussie broadband does offer up to 250mbps up but they charge $200 for it....
@@TechManPat ahh that's a shame to hear. If I upgrade from 50mbps to 1000mbps will the full speed come through on HFC? Or capped at what other amount? Thanks for your assistance.
@techmanpat I'm in near the hills east of the airport and ever since they started putting in the fibre, upgrade scheduled for 2025. Our DSL has been playing up. This shouldn't happen should it?
It shouldn’t no, but they are also moving the cables through the same conduits so they could have damaged or done something along the way, not sure… sorry
This upgrade shows why monopolies are bad and government monopolies the worst. They can lay out whatever they want care of the taxpayer and add the cost to our national debt. I suspect NBNCo is worried about competition from 4G and 5G. After 5G there is 6G. After 6G there is 7G. Hence the upgrade to the NBN.
@@anth5189 NBNCo quote $4,200 to install FTTP and $2,400 to install FTTN. And FTTP takes much longer to build. It requires an underground conduit and many homes do not have one
Just imagine if the Government had the forethought of using fibre in the first place. With all these fibre upgrades, surely they can give us 1000/1000 like every other country with fibre.
The Labor government did, but Australia is full of idiots who voted for the Liberals, they thought we would never need more than 10MB/sec was Malcom Turnbull words
@@beercooler Yeah courtesy of the taxpayer. Destroying any competition. And NBNCo is running at a loss thanks to the taxpayer, destroying any opposition.
First Lower & Lower & Lower 🤔😕 we were told over a decade ago it was Fibre to the premises then Telstra sold its ancient slimy Green Copper to NBN WE HAVE THE SLOWEST AND COSTLIEST INTERNET IN THE WORLD......HELL EVEN N.Z. has better❗
There are ~10,000,000 households in Australia If they could continue at the "high" rate of 10,000 households per week, it would take ~1000 weeks to upgrade every household WHICH IS ALMOST 20 YEARS! 🤦♂ "10 year program" is obviously BS
Actually 12,000,000. You can see now why Turnbull wanted a inferior system up and running rather than a Rolls Royce version costing who knows what finished who knows when. During the pandemic half the country would have been on the previous system- ADSL
@@Neil-yg5gm BS; "the poor man pays twice" >10yrs in and they're still sending poorly trained 3rd world level technicians out to do dodgy installs. The guys who rocked up here had home brand bunnings kit and the workmanship is shocking. It's sad when the homeowner has higher quality tools than the "skilled" tradesmen on a >$50b project.
@@scod3908 Anyway i left the NBN. TPG offered me a deal to switch to 4G wireless. So for $49.99/month i get unlimited downloads at 20Mbps. So far no problems except i lost my landline.
@@scod3908 don't worry man even the 3rd world countries North to Australia are switching to fiber, at an even faster pace... pretty soon it's just gonna be Australian level installers
10,000/week? With 12 million premises in Australia that would be a 20 year build if nothing went wrong. Plus we have the unknown cost. Most people do not want to send emails at the speed of light if it costs $250/month
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Any more news about those speed upgrades we are supposed to get at the end of year or have they canned that?
I'm still stuck on HFC 100 speed, 500 proposed speed increase would be great but even 250 would make a big difference, 3 heavy users in house all trying to stream RUclips at once.
10,000!? Didn't realise you could fit that many people in a single home.
Then again, housing crisis....
I could speculate that Internet in Australia will no longer suck after 2030. I have never had a single unexpected outage after upgrading to fiber
That’s the hope, I can finally rest.
@@TechManPat My friend in Sydney also told me recently that very surprisingly their HFC is now eligible for a FTTP upgrade, which is not what NBN initially plans to do. However, it is still very limited to some suburbs but I could say that NBN DOES want to get rid of HFC very slowly in the future.
Yep, same experience here - Since the fiber switch I’ve had FAR better reliability. I think we’ve had one unexpected outage and even that was very short.
@@flipacoin331I hope so. Our HFC connection (half our suburb has FTTP while we get crappy HFC) has been troublesome and so damn slow. Uploading anything takes too long, sometimes days! It’s unproductive!
It’s unfair many of us don’t have FTTP.
Funny how they say there is a demand for FTTP yet we got rolled out a vomit mix of copper and fibre. If only someone could have foreseen this a long time ago.
That wasn’t NBN CO’s fault, blame Rupert Murdoch for that, and various governments for being bribed by him. NBN Co had to rollout the policy of the day
@@jjcoolaus that was not Murdoch it is 100% the Liberal Party that offered mixed technology to make it cheaper,
@@mibberz1 wasn't cheaper though. They made the change for political and ideological reasons. For them they managed to turn something that was a no-brainer into a great wedge issue.
@@cragonaut yes , Labor said it will cost 49billion and liberals said 46billion, the liberal mix solution ended up costing 57 billion due to the cost of all the mixed technology that was needed, some of it hadn't even been invented at the time of the election, and it will cost over a extra $20billion to get 80% of homes updated to fttp, currently it is only around 34% when a party offers something nation building and the other party offers the red dot solution, well we got what we voted for, and I remind every Liberal voter of how we went from 3rd fastest internet to 82nd so thankyou, and any of you kids who didn't vote back then, that is what the Liberal Party has always offered.
@@mibberz1 liberal and labor same same...Labors project they're in government but decided to agree with libs and Murdock.
Can’t wait for my upgrade in {null}
Haha oh boy
Found out in mid week in June it was available , spoke to my isp launtel to arrange the upgrade as I was flapping my gums too much with the launtel CSR I missed a friday appointment , had to book it in on the monday. Tech turned up and 3 hours later 1 gig fibre. Happy with the result now need to upgrade my wifi infrastructure to take full advantage. Wire is on spec very happy
I had mine upgraded in May. It works well.
I wonder if there'll be more of an effort to replace satellite connections in less remote areas? I know of an area where one side of the street has FTTN and now eligible for an FTTP upgrade, the other side of the street is satellite only. Semi rural sure, but hardly remote.
I actually don’t have nbn active due to price. I wonder if they will upgrade fiber to premises that don’t have active connections???
Found out my location wont be going onto FTTH until after December 2025. I'm in a suburb about 30 km south east of Perth. Its even annoying that I can't even get 5g at home but houses 2 streets away, even in the shopping area there is no 5g and some areas drop to 3g.
I disconnected my NBN for starlink, they have zero idea on when my suburb will be done
Dec 2024 was the date initially, got an email in June that fibre was available. Ordered it, took 4 weeks for the techie to come out, he put the box in, just waiting for another appointment for the trench guy to come to put fibre in from street to house.
Seen a few guys the other day installing his starlink dish...obviously he doesn't know he can get a free fibre upgrade lol
Still far too expensive for internet in Australia. Check all prices overseas. Australia does poorly.
Not everyone in major cities like Sydney/Melbourne has FTTP yet remote little towns do. WHY? It’s pathetic.
After a 2 month shit show since my first appointment i finally got it installed. NBN was meant to send the civil remediation team and they never arrived. They booked a second appointment and amazingly the tech pulled fibre through the blockage the first guy couldn't. Gigabit download is amazing. But the upload is still slow in comparison :(
got our upgrade the other week upgraded to 250 megabits per second
the upgrade went flawlessly
Yet still the fact that people were screwed over when the NBN started has not been addressed. I had 100mbt cable and when the NBN came in and I was forced onto it, Telstra down graded me to 50mbt and continued to charge me for 100mbt. So I ended up with SLOWER internet. After years of complaints, F all has happened. I am sure I am not the only one who was ripped off by the NBN. It is an f-ing disgrace.
Meanwhile in NZ.. While NBN started its official roll out in 2011, and NZ lagged with its FTTH (officially) in 2014. I was lucky enough to be in a new suburb in 2009 that was a FTTH trial. I doubt I could go back to copper feeds/adsl these days
For as long as its free people will continue to upgrade. I got mine last week works great
I have to count myself lucky to have full fiber at my primes for over a year now and pay $100 Per Month. I believe that is is the technology of the future and we should just get as much fiber into the ground the as we can.
I am in Melbourne and only 8km from CBD and they have no plans for fibre. Go figure.
I've had nbn since 2013. I just want better upload speed for the love of god. Aussie broadband does offer up to 250mbps up but they charge $200 for it....
Can hfc be upgraded to fibre to the premise? Is NBN or retailers doing it automatically when you go to a higher price level?
@@Phil124 no, you can already order a 1000 megabit service on HFC, this is only for FTTC and FTTN where you order a speed they can’t do.
No sorry mate HFC is not on the list, and won’t be for a long time.
@@TechManPat ahh that's a shame to hear. If I upgrade from 50mbps to 1000mbps will the full speed come through on HFC? Or capped at what other amount? Thanks for your assistance.
when will HFC get fiber?
@techmanpat I'm in near the hills east of the airport and ever since they started putting in the fibre, upgrade scheduled for 2025. Our DSL has been playing up. This shouldn't happen should it?
Oh and the node FTTN is 20meter across the road.
It shouldn’t no, but they are also moving the cables through the same conduits so they could have damaged or done something along the way, not sure… sorry
This upgrade shows why monopolies are bad and government monopolies the worst. They can lay out whatever they want care of the taxpayer and add the cost to our national debt. I suspect NBNCo is worried about competition from 4G and 5G. After 5G there is 6G. After 6G there is 7G.
Hence the upgrade to the NBN.
So my question is.
Why didn't this happen in the 1st place ?
Malcom Turnbull.
Because it would create a divided country. Those with FTTP and those with the previous system -ADSL. Plus FTTP is double the cost and slow to build.
@@Neil-yg5gm No it would not be double the cost and it is no slower to build than any other system.
@@anth5189 NBNCo quote $4,200 to install FTTP and $2,400 to install FTTN. And FTTP takes much longer to build. It requires an underground conduit and many homes do not have one
Just imagine if the Government had the forethought of using fibre in the first place.
With all these fibre upgrades, surely they can give us 1000/1000 like every other country with fibre.
The Labor government did, but Australia is full of idiots who voted for the Liberals, they thought we would never need more than 10MB/sec was Malcom Turnbull words
Labor went for a full fibre install, the LNP got into power and went with the multi technology shit. If only Labor stayed in power
@@beercooler And if no changes were made, they would still be building a FTTP-NBN and when finished we would have to pay $250/month for basic internet
@@Neil-yg5gm They are still installing fibre🤦🏼♂️. And the price of fibre and installation have gone down from when they started.
@@beercooler Yeah courtesy of the taxpayer. Destroying any competition. And NBNCo is running at a loss thanks to the taxpayer, destroying any opposition.
The upgrade that shouldn't have been needed.
$13k quote for NBN fibre in a unit block, nope FttDP it is then
I was going to get the fibre upgrade but they need to cut my driveway it would be free to cut it but I would need to pay for it to be repair.
Oh wow that’s interesting.
@@TechManPat And I can only get up to 25 Mbps.
First Lower & Lower & Lower 🤔😕 we were told over a decade ago it was Fibre to the premises then Telstra sold its ancient slimy Green Copper to NBN WE HAVE THE SLOWEST AND COSTLIEST INTERNET IN THE WORLD......HELL EVEN N.Z. has better❗
There are ~10,000,000 households in Australia
If they could continue at the "high" rate of 10,000 households per week, it would take ~1000 weeks to upgrade every household
WHICH IS ALMOST 20 YEARS! 🤦♂
"10 year program" is obviously BS
Haha yes
Actually 12,000,000. You can see now why Turnbull wanted a inferior system up and running rather than a Rolls Royce version costing who knows what finished who knows when. During the pandemic half the country would have been on the previous system- ADSL
@@Neil-yg5gm BS; "the poor man pays twice"
>10yrs in and they're still sending poorly trained 3rd world level technicians out to do dodgy installs. The guys who rocked up here had home brand bunnings kit and the workmanship is shocking.
It's sad when the homeowner has higher quality tools than the "skilled" tradesmen on a >$50b project.
@@scod3908 Anyway i left the NBN. TPG offered me a deal to switch to 4G wireless. So for $49.99/month i get unlimited downloads at 20Mbps. So far no problems except i lost my landline.
@@scod3908 don't worry man even the 3rd world countries North to Australia are switching to fiber, at an even faster pace... pretty soon it's just gonna be Australian level installers
that is only 5 in every town little slow
Free upgrade....with a $110 a month plan...
No thanks.
go with leaptel , 100/20 for 65 AUD a month and free fibre , this 110 a month is a myth and false , stop paying for dickheads cunts called TELSTRA
10,000/week? With 12 million premises in Australia that would be a 20 year build if nothing went wrong. Plus we have the unknown cost. Most people do not want to send emails at the speed of light if it costs $250/month