I like to visualise a sound wave, the beautiful thing about that is if you zoom into a sound wave, all you see is one flat straight line (music producers will know this) Likewise, when you zoom into a thought, all you find is the flatline field of pure consciousness. Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother, and inspiring mine in return!
May he overcome his fear and his anger and let me in. May he reach out to me, very very very soon! May he recognize how amazing our friendship really truly is 🙏🏻. May he understand and realize how much he loves me and cares about me and misses me. Misses us.
WE don't have thoughts, thoughts are just taking place.. WE don't see things, seeing is just taking place WE don't smell things, smelling is just taking place.. The "i" does not exist... only reality exists, and all that is happening is that little samples of it is being experienced through our senses..
I see thoughts as images in color. If I think of my wife, I can see her image, her dress, background, etc. If I do math problems in my head, I see the numbers and sometimes I don't see them. Thoughts are neither here nor there. They are just flows of energy in the brain.
It's like thought or intelligence is a separate dimension we move through by thinking rather than moving and the thoughts we have are representative of our movement through the dimension
@@sajafendel kind of like how walking is moving around in the spatial dimension, I could see thinking being a method of moving around in some sort of invisible plane where you don't physically move from one space to another but rather you mentally move to a new perspective which is a new point in some sort of mental dimension rather than spatial. I picture each moment in time as moving to a new point in timespace rather than progressing forward on a timeline
You don’t feel a thought you feel a feeling, thoughts can’t be felt. Feelings and thoughts are contactless. They never bare in connection unless connected through another though that thinks they are connected.
I had this exact insight and idesveribe it in different words. I saw the title and ieas like fk man the algorithm understood what I've been upto and texting to people..
im not sure if i did it right😢.i dont know if this make sense but i still have this feeling that my thoughts are somewhat solid.can you recommend a book that explains this further?this is frustrating😔anyways thanks for the video♥️🙏
Where in wales you from. I live in Swansea. I’m pretty new on my spiritual journey and your channel popped up in my feed and glad that it did. Caught a new sub here.🙏
@@sajafendel just commented on another video of yours. I mentioned that I don’t know a single person in my life that’s into spirituality or on the spiritual path. Would love to have a chat with someone that’s shall I say spiritually aware. Or basically just someone that’s further down the road from where I’m at. I’m very new to this. If you’re ever in swansea I would love if you would come and say hi. You won’t miss me. Ive been the Dinky Donuts guy in Swansea for 24 years.👍🙏
@@nontimebomala779 you may like the community I’ve created, we are also planning a meetup/day retreat before the end of the year in Cardiff, so you’re more than welcome to join :) And yes, I’ll definitely say hey! Make sure you address me first because I don’t know what you look like haha 🙏
@@sajafendel thank you. I’m definitely interested in a retreat especially one so close by. Never been to one but it’s definitely something I’ve wanted to do. To be surrounded by like minded people would be amazing. And I will definitely check out your community.🙏 And dinky donuts trailer right in the centre of town. You won’t miss me
Sometimes I get stuck because it feels like the thought does have a feeling - ex. the tension in my neck that comes with a disturbing or intrusive thought. Although I ground myself in the awareness of that feeling - I know ultimately it doesn't belong to the thought. Any other way you'd address this?
Well, for all intents and purposes, i know the thought is there because i can imagine it. and the only thing that is actually real is what we experience in imagination. i can think of the word wave and see an ocean, smell the salt water, taste the salt water, feel the temperature of the water on my skin. so while all of that is happening, i'm experiencing a "word" on the inside regardless whether or not it is appearing on the outside. Maybe I misunderstand you.
On point. The mind starts to break down Thru presentation of VEDIC astrology 👁️. The order of chaos is organized. IT explains The ocean we call Life. On 🌎 As IT is in heaven. AKA As above so below As within so without your reality 👁️. As Enoch aka Man ascended he was introduced to the 😇 misinterpretation it's Angles astrology. Once you mastered it he became metatron aka life is metaphysical 👁️ The story in details ✌️
Hmm... In my seminars I give people a task that they can not acomplish physically. Then I let them think a specific thought and let them do exact the same task again and they can acomplish it with ease. Then I extend this excersize even further, but it is pointless to describe this here, because it is conceptually not explainable, only through experience you can grasp it. I would say I can proove that a thought exists.
Thoughts don’t come out of anywhere, think of it like a sound wave. When the sound wave is flat we call it silence (pure consciousness) when there is sound the sound waves “vibrates) meaning it simply moves itself. Consciousness is like the flat wave and a thought is like a contracted vibration & localisation of the flatline “silent” consciousness. We are never really “aware” of a thought, we are aware of awareness. That’s all that is present in the experience of a thought. So thinking is just pure consciousness vibrating - so to speak
@@mjr7991 neither are asked for! All thoughts are impersonal. We have this idea that thoughts are something we start thinking. There is no thinker just like there is no “waver” in the ocean that makes the water move.
Excuse my ignorance with this question, I’m really not trying to shoot this down because I actually love the message here, but is speaking or writing down a thought not evidence of thinking? The thought proceeds the action? I’m happy to be educated on this btw! 🙏🏼
Evidence has to be experiential, so the fact that we can write and speak is not experiential evidence that thoughts exist. Also, the point of this isn’t to make out that we don’t have thoughts, we DO have thoughts, they just don’t pose as much of a problem as we think. People have been commenting “no, I have proof a thought exists” they are completely missing the point of what I’m sharing. Blind to the significance of it completely. So I’m glad you asked this question and I thank you for sharing my friend. An example to explain this would be: A wave is real but only from a limited and illusory point of view. Why? Because a wave is simply a localisation and movement of water. Likewise, a thought is real, only from a limited and illusory point of view. Why? Because a thought is simply a localisation and motion of consciousness. What this means is that, yes they appear to appear, but they aren’t these real, solid, controlling objects that we all think they are. They are made of peace, made of freedom. They have no power because we are the ocean of peace from which they arise. Hope this brings clarity brother and thanks for asking a very open and curious question 🙏
@@sajafendel Deeply appreciate this response, thank you! My question was a little clumsy. There’s a level on which all resonates deeply but I’m aware that if I tried to explain this to someone else it’d fall flat. I look at thought and see its illusionary nature. I focus on the image my mind conjures of say, my late father or sister and see that it isn’t like a perfect picture on a movie screen. His face can appear younger then older, it’s always in motion, like how these AI generated videos have constantly changing faces and surroundings. It’s fascinating. But the mind can hold such a grip. I just have to remember it’s all impersonal. So glad I found your channel! I hope your sister can feel the same peace you do.
@@sajafendel You said thought doesn't have a colour or a shape, but if I imagine a pink elephant, then that's a thought that has a colour and a shape. I believe I get what you mean, that it does seem amorphous, but it still seems like in the background of something there is a pink elephant with some kind of substance. One of the things I've been noticing is that these imaginative visual thoughts can be as vivid as my normal visual input. It's like an AR system. Or maybe you meant non-visual thoughts. It's interesting too re: sounds, I can hear music as thought, it's a memory, so no shape to it though sometimes some visual imagery can be associated with it. The distinction between sound that is from my ear and the sound from the memory doesn't seem very clear like in the visual case.
@ yes you’re right man but for the sake of the experiment we’re using the traditional thought and not a visualisation. Because once we see it with a simple thought, we know that it’s not possible for a thought to be made of a different substance to a visualisation. There’s not two materials there. So it’s easy to experiment with thoughts because that then applies to all mind experiences.
We don’t ever really feel thoughts are personal, we think they are. Meaning that it’s simply another thought that thinks they are “my” Thoughts and therefore we create the experience of thoughts being our controllable thoughts. Really they appear and disappear as impersonally as the sounds around you. If you think about it, you have 0 control over the fact that you will hear everything around you unless you’re deaf, but we typical don’t mind that because we don’t identify with those sounds. Now what we’re doing with thought is simply giving more importance to particular thoughts. I’m sure you can imagine how chaotic it would be if we kept giving importance to all the negative sounds or conversations we heard through out the day. The difference with our thoughts is that they convince us that they are us and act like little voices directed at us.
@@sajafendel sorry I just read back over this and had a question about the last sentence if that’s okay? How is that they convince us that they are us and directed at us?
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Completely blown away in how you described awareness and for the first time it made so much sense to perceive it as a contraction. Thank you
Happy to hear this Anna! Thanks for the valuable feedback :)
Now that was a light bulb moment. Thoughts are compressed consciousness. Brilliant.
I like to visualise a sound wave, the beautiful thing about that is if you zoom into a sound wave, all you see is one flat straight line (music producers will know this)
Likewise, when you zoom into a thought, all you find is the flatline field of pure consciousness.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother, and inspiring mine in return!
After watching many videos on this very topic, I finally get it. Your explanation made it so clear. Subscribed. Thank you.
Thanks for the support my friend, I'm glad it helped 🙏
That is profound. Just incomprehensible peace.
Thank you.
And Thank you for the comment! 🙏🌅 appreciate the support :)
May he overcome his fear and his anger and let me in.
May he reach out to me, very very very soon!
May he recognize how amazing our friendship really truly is 🙏🏻.
May he understand and realize how much he loves me
and cares about me and misses me. Misses us.
I love how you explain this teaching with your own understanding. Good job 👌
🙏💚 appreciate the comment
This is a helpful pointer to what is. Thank you!!!!🙏🏻🍀⭐
My pleasure! Thank you so much for the comment 🌅🙏
WE don't have thoughts, thoughts are just taking place..
WE don't see things, seeing is just taking place
WE don't smell things, smelling is just taking place..
The "i" does not exist... only reality exists, and all that is happening is that little samples of it is being experienced through our senses..
Love it. Agreed.
another master
Something clicked with this, very clear, thank you🙏✨
Happy this is so, thanks Yvonne for sharing 🙏
Thank you; it was great and so clear!!!!
Happy to help 🙏 thanks for the comment!
I really enjoyed the way you described that.
Thanks for sharing Kerry 🙏🌅 I’m glad you resonated
I see thoughts as images in color. If I think of my wife, I can see her image, her dress, background, etc. If I do math problems in my head, I see the numbers and sometimes I don't see them. Thoughts are neither here nor there. They are just flows of energy in the brain.
What a beautiful visual mind you have 🙏
After realising of these through your meditation, thoughts have had much less grasp. Still in training 😅
i'm glad you've been having that experience Maitte! Thank you for sharing that valuable feedback.
Gratitude 🙏
Likewise 🙏🌅
It's like thought or intelligence is a separate dimension we move through by thinking rather than moving and the thoughts we have are representative of our movement through the dimension
Not sure I understand you but sounds interesting tho 🙏
@@sajafendel kind of like how walking is moving around in the spatial dimension, I could see thinking being a method of moving around in some sort of invisible plane where you don't physically move from one space to another but rather you mentally move to a new perspective which is a new point in some sort of mental dimension rather than spatial. I picture each moment in time as moving to a new point in timespace rather than progressing forward on a timeline
Thank you❤
A pleasure, thanks for the comment 🙏🌅
The problem is that people do not think. They believe they are thinking. Often people just act without thought.
I know my thought is there because I feel it
You don’t feel a thought you feel a feeling, thoughts can’t be felt. Feelings and thoughts are contactless. They never bare in connection unless connected through another though that thinks they are connected.
I had this exact insight and idesveribe it in different words. I saw the title and ieas like fk man the algorithm understood what I've been upto and texting to people..
Hahahaha. There’s only one universal algorithm 😉
im not sure if i did it right😢.i dont know if this make sense but i still have this feeling that my thoughts are somewhat solid.can you recommend a book that explains this further?this is frustrating😔anyways thanks for the video♥️🙏
I can only recommend my community where I can help you personally for free 🙏 as I haven’t read a book where this is fully explained.
Where in wales you from. I live in Swansea. I’m pretty new on my spiritual journey and your channel popped up in my feed and glad that it did. Caught a new sub here.🙏
That’s amazing! I’m from Bridgend so I’m just down the road! :) I live in Mexico but I’ll be back for the rest of the year in a month.
@@sajafendel just commented on another video of yours. I mentioned that I don’t know a single person in my life that’s into spirituality or on the spiritual path. Would love to have a chat with someone that’s shall I say spiritually aware. Or basically just someone that’s further down the road from where I’m at. I’m very new to this. If you’re ever in swansea I would love if you would come and say hi. You won’t miss me. Ive been the Dinky Donuts guy in Swansea for 24 years.👍🙏
@@nontimebomala779 you may like the community I’ve created, we are also planning a meetup/day retreat before the end of the year in Cardiff, so you’re more than welcome to join :)
And yes, I’ll definitely say hey! Make sure you address me first because I don’t know what you look like haha 🙏
@@sajafendel thank you. I’m definitely interested in a retreat especially one so close by. Never been to one but it’s definitely something I’ve wanted to do. To be surrounded by like minded people would be amazing. And I will definitely check out your community.🙏
And dinky donuts trailer right in the centre of town. You won’t miss me
@@nontimebomala779 Awesome man! I will pop by and say hey when I'm down that way for sure :)
You can write a thought down on paper, trace it in the sand, key it into a document, speak it out loud, to others....
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when I walk along the river I often see small whirlpools. Consciousness is a river and thoughts are whirlpools?🤔
Yes man, You can say the whole mind is like a whirlpool
damn man
Sometimes I get stuck because it feels like the thought does have a feeling - ex. the tension in my neck that comes with a disturbing or intrusive thought. Although I ground myself in the awareness of that feeling - I know ultimately it doesn't belong to the thought. Any other way you'd address this?
I would suggest this 🙏
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Well, for all intents and purposes, i know the thought is there because i can imagine it. and the only thing that is actually real is what we experience in imagination. i can think of the word wave and see an ocean, smell the salt water, taste the salt water, feel the temperature of the water on my skin. so while all of that is happening, i'm experiencing a "word" on the inside regardless whether or not it is appearing on the outside. Maybe I misunderstand you.
Yeah I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying?
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On point. The mind starts to break down Thru presentation of VEDIC astrology 👁️. The order of chaos is organized. IT explains The ocean we call Life. On 🌎 As IT is in heaven. AKA As above so below As within so without your reality 👁️. As Enoch aka Man ascended he was introduced to the 😇 misinterpretation it's Angles astrology. Once you mastered it he became metatron aka life is metaphysical 👁️ The story in details ✌️
But it's ALL nothing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ngz-v9l no-thing 🙏
👁️stand corrected 🤣🤣🤣no thing ❤️❤️❤️❤️😎
Hmm... In my seminars I give people a task that they can not acomplish physically. Then I let them think a specific thought and let them do exact the same task again and they can acomplish it with ease. Then I extend this excersize even further, but it is pointless to describe this here, because it is conceptually not explainable, only through experience you can grasp it. I would say I can proove that a thought exists.
What is the specific thought that you let them think?
Yeah what he said^
What do you think about your self.
What you think you are is just a thought
What do you think about your self.
What you think you are is just a thought
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you should remove that evil eye on the wall. its idolatry and opens doors. all the best
It’s My girlfriends grandmothers means more to her than to me
Thoughts are “pure reality” sounds like the antithesis of the rest of what you’re saying. Am I misunderstanding? ❤
Yes you understood 🙏
So is it like blocking my thoughts by just ignoring it when they rise?
Haha no not quite. Did you follow the investigation?
@@sajafendel no I’m a new subscriber
@@pixsiedoll2341 sorry I meant did you follow the investigation that i took you through in the video? If so what happened for you?
Where do thoughts come from? How and why are we aware of them? Im trying to understand but i really dont,im so confused, please help.
Thoughts don’t come out of anywhere, think of it like a sound wave. When the sound wave is flat we call it silence (pure consciousness) when there is sound the sound waves “vibrates) meaning it simply moves itself.
Consciousness is like the flat wave and a thought is like a contracted vibration & localisation of the flatline “silent” consciousness.
We are never really “aware” of a thought, we are aware of awareness. That’s all that is present in the experience of a thought.
So thinking is just pure consciousness vibrating - so to speak
What’s the difference between a thought where you are trying to say solve a math problem vs a random thought you didn’t create that is torturing you?
No difference apart from the one that tortures you, for some reason, you give more importance to
@@sajafendel so the source is the same, just one is asked for and the other is not.
@@mjr7991 neither are asked for! All thoughts are impersonal. We have this idea that thoughts are something we start thinking. There is no thinker just like there is no “waver” in the ocean that makes the water move.
@@sajafendelSee a doctor? You have a serious problem if you are incapable of consciously creating thoughts.
Excuse my ignorance with this question, I’m really not trying to shoot this down because I actually love the message here, but is speaking or writing down a thought not evidence of thinking? The thought proceeds the action? I’m happy to be educated on this btw! 🙏🏼
Evidence has to be experiential, so the fact that we can write and speak is not experiential evidence that thoughts exist.
Also, the point of this isn’t to make out that we don’t have thoughts, we DO have thoughts, they just don’t pose as much of a problem as we think.
People have been commenting “no, I have proof a thought exists” they are completely missing the point of what I’m sharing. Blind to the significance of it completely.
So I’m glad you asked this question and I thank you for sharing my friend.
An example to explain this would be:
A wave is real but only from a limited and illusory point of view. Why? Because a wave is simply a localisation and movement of water.
Likewise, a thought is real, only from a limited and illusory point of view. Why?
Because a thought is simply a localisation and motion of consciousness.
What this means is that, yes they appear to appear, but they aren’t these real, solid, controlling objects that we all think they are.
They are made of peace, made of freedom. They have no power because we are the ocean of peace from which they arise.
Hope this brings clarity brother and thanks for asking a very open and curious question 🙏
@@sajafendel Deeply appreciate this response, thank you! My question was a little clumsy. There’s a level on which all resonates deeply but I’m aware that if I tried to explain this to someone else it’d fall flat.
I look at thought and see its illusionary nature. I focus on the image my mind conjures of say, my late father or sister and see that it isn’t like a perfect picture on a movie screen. His face can appear younger then older, it’s always in motion, like how these AI generated videos have constantly changing faces and surroundings. It’s fascinating. But the mind can hold such a grip.
I just have to remember it’s all impersonal.
So glad I found your channel! I hope your sister can feel the same peace you do.
Why would you want to remove your thoughts? They can't hurt you.
That is the point of the video
I can imagine a pink elephant, that's a thought, no?
Yes but what’s your point man?
@@sajafendel You said thought doesn't have a colour or a shape, but if I imagine a pink elephant, then that's a thought that has a colour and a shape.
I believe I get what you mean, that it does seem amorphous, but it still seems like in the background of something there is a pink elephant with some kind of substance. One of the things I've been noticing is that these imaginative visual thoughts can be as vivid as my normal visual input. It's like an AR system.
Or maybe you meant non-visual thoughts. It's interesting too re: sounds, I can hear music as thought, it's a memory, so no shape to it though sometimes some visual imagery can be associated with it. The distinction between sound that is from my ear and the sound from the memory doesn't seem very clear like in the visual case.
@ yes you’re right man but for the sake of the experiment we’re using the traditional thought and not a visualisation.
Because once we see it with a simple thought, we know that it’s not possible for a thought to be made of a different substance to a visualisation. There’s not two materials there. So it’s easy to experiment with thoughts because that then applies to all mind experiences.
@@sajafendel I agree with you re: traditional thoughts.
Thanks for your videos and content, I appreciate it!
@ for sure man, thanks for the comment 🙏🌅
So you’re saying that the only reason thoughts feel personal is because we identify with them?
We don’t ever really feel thoughts are personal, we think they are. Meaning that it’s simply another thought that thinks they are “my”
Thoughts and therefore we create the experience of thoughts being our controllable thoughts. Really they appear and disappear as impersonally as the sounds around you.
If you think about it, you have 0 control over the fact that you will hear everything around you unless you’re deaf, but we typical don’t mind that because we don’t identify with those sounds.
Now what we’re doing with thought is simply giving more importance to particular thoughts.
I’m sure you can imagine how chaotic it would be if we kept giving importance to all the negative sounds or conversations we heard through out the day. The difference with our thoughts is that they convince us that they are us and act like little voices directed at us.
@@sajafendel thank you so much for replying! I’ve gained some clarity from this :)
@@Lex-j3r I’m glad! Always welcome :)
@@sajafendel sorry I just read back over this and had a question about the last sentence if that’s okay? How is that they convince us that they are us and directed at us?
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Hey man, no thank you 🙏
Thank you ❤
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