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I'm the turbulent type and to be honest it's pretty exhausting at times because my head races with thoughts about my work, future, what others opinions are, even society events that I'm not part of. Anything bad that comes on the news can cause me to worry and try to think of solutions even though I have absolutely no power whatsoever to enforce them! Maybe if I was assertive I'd be way more focused on my own tasks, which would be an absolute gem at the moment
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. I appreciate it! And I can relate - although, I can seem to get hyper focused at times, so I seem to be a bit of a blend. 😁
the way you defined urself is exactly how I am people around me even called me out saying "I'm overthinking stuff" but I still cant help think abt it maybe I am but I feel like I'll regret it if I dont. I'm constantly thinking of how I should do certain stuff or what should I do in this particular situation and tbh, it makes me feel at ease otherwise I'd be anxious thinking of what can happen during that time.
I know the feelings. This is a common with turbulent INTJs. I'm an assertive INTJ and don't face the same problems as you've described but I feel some of them as well . This may be due to your Ni Fi Loop. To overcome this exhausting situation, you must find reliable solutions. Why don't you start today?
@@DreamChaserOne Hello yes I have begun starting on some solutions 1. I have decided what career I really want to do, something that's going to take a long time and a lot of research, which is what I typically like doing, and it keeps me on the ball. My mind was dragged in many different directions before, because I'm basically interested in most things, but couldn't decide what to focus on. Some things are just going to have to take a back seat for now. All about priorities. 2. I've learned to realise there's not much point trying to find solutions for things I really cannot change, which is one of the reasons I've come to dislike politics, and won't discuss it with anyone. Sure takes a load off your shoulders when you realise the vast majority of things that go on in the world have little to do with you 😁 I'll just focus on how I'm going to adapt to certain changes, which involves keeping my dignity and doing things my way. 3. I've gained great benefit from interacting with the mbti community, and I've gained a great understanding about what that silent force is in my mind, and learned to trust my intuition more in guiding me to do the right thing. The mbti community, knowing that there are others like me, has made that silent voice louder. Problem is a great deal of my thoughts don't really have words attached to them, so this helps. A lot. It's helped me realise what that loop really was that was holding me back for so long. I do love my solitude, though I try to keep in touch with the right people. That's the main thing. Anyway all the best, I'm now going to get absorbed in another book lol
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I hate being INTJ-T the pressure of not achieving my goals crushes me and makes me unproductive which crushes me even more because I lose time. Then the cycle repeats itself. I wish I could reamin calm like an INTJ-A.
I think I'm an INTJ-A. I'm very calm from the outside. Please just praise me for my calmness. But inside I've a huge storm brewing. Sometimes it feels exhausting. Also the thinking of not achieving stuff drains me. My parents and kins always try to remind me I've achieved what most dream of, still I'm not satisfied. In my analysis I've always underachieved
I'm a turbulent INTJ too. I hate being so stressed and anxious a lot of times when others would be chill💀 But yes as turbulents we tend to push ourselves and are often very successful in general because of that internal need
INTJ-A here 👋 I have the desire to do well but if I make a mistake, I'm ok with it. I prefer not to stress about it. My only issue is that I come across very arrogant because I don't care what people think. I'm more concerned about resolving the situation for the greater good than people's feelings or what they think of me. 😅
Same... I'm appreciated as a "natural born leader" wich i don't care, worst, it bother me. Because i just apply ISO 9001 the best way i can and what peoples don't get is that's a duplicable process...
I'm an INTJ - T. The cognitive part of being an INTJ is cool but unfortunately when you're a turbulent one you suffer a great deal. I love that I'm good at different things and hobbies but oh boy do I stress a lot. Anything can cause my stress and I always make plan A, B and C. I can't just "go with the flow". It's very tiring
INTJ-T here. Dislike stress (also very stress receptive) and being a perfectionist. Switched occupation several times when I felt stuck and to learn new things.
It's the INTJ-T who get along best with INFJ, we know how important it is for you to recharge and are the perfect friend to offload to because we 'get' you. You need to find one. But an INFJ can only handle one INTJ in their life, but that friendship is incredible.
The turbulent designation attempts to describe the seemingly stronger attachment to the past as well as a noticeably higher propensity for these types to ruminate. In other words, they struggle with letting things just go or roll right off their backs. As an assertive it has astounded me the level to which I can just get over things these days - a skill which seems to be maturing with age as well. Honestly, I don’t think one is better than the other - each can be a strength or a weakness depending on the context and the desired result vs the actual result. ❤️
INTJ Here. Watched your Assessment of the "A" and "T". As Befitting What I am I Listened to the Point of "BUT". "Attempting to further separate the INTJ Personality Type may not be Helpful" and "Depends More on a Person's Psychological State or Self Development Stage". Thank You for the Knowledge. Si Non Confectus, Non Reficiat. For the ESFJs Reading This... Loosely Translated, If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It!
I was an INTJ-A when i first took the test and just kinda go along with it while using that information to understand myself more, which i did. As years goes by, i took the test again recently and i get INTJ-T as a resultt. People on Quora discussed that the INTJ-T type to seem like it is about unhealthy INTJ compared to the INTJ-A..and i disagree with that. Knowing the actual facts and descriptions about both type of INTJ from this video give me much relief because i thought i had improved my growth and personality traits to a better state throughout these years, and more so i thought i'd became a resilient, calm, and a more reserved person that is not easily provoked even when in a stressful situation/workplace. So i don't see that INTJ-A type is better than INTJ-T type.. both have its own characteristics that we INTJs should embrace no matter which category you fall into, each to its own. I'm proud with my self growth and achievements so far. Thank you for this video! it's very helpful!
I suspect that gender also plays a role in differentiating the various types of INTJ. Men and women are different both biologically and mentally. We view the world differently and react differently to it. Of course, I'm generalizing when I say that, but it's commonly accepted that women tend to be more emotional creatures, whereas men are a bit more rational. Now, if you have a turbulent INTJ, it makes sense that such a person could be different depending on whether it's man or a woman. A turbulent INTJ is already more emotional than an assertive one, so if you add, say, a woman's emotional disposition into the mix, the turbulent INTJ might end up becoming even more turbulent as a result.
@@barry-michael33 yes i can admit now that i am indeed fall into the sigma female category, although i do not fancy being put into any boxes for that matter😄😄😄 at first i focused on the characteristics of alpha female but as time goes i kept on going back to relation to sigmas. A lone wolf. Too alien for the earth, too human for the outer space. But now I’m embracing myself being a “weirdo” and being different from others wholeheartedly, i understand now that i was never meant to fit in. And I don’t want to fit in anymore. 🌷🩵
INTJ-T The grind never stops. There's always more. Perfection is an illusion meant to distract and mislead. Life is a struggle, but it is full of ways to take advantage and change fortunes. Good and bad. Stressful but exhilarating. Like people, it's always dualistic. Life is a chaotic symphony. All we can do is dance until the music stops and hope we miss others' toes.
I'm INTJ-A and my son is INTJ -A too. We dont talk often and both having more time to our " me time" He's good in Mathematics,Computer and Music. While I'm good in Digital arts learning new languages and running a business. The funny part we're having different plans and goals. My son is only 16 but he already have a plans and backup plans for his future. So do I. We both craving for knowledge. We understand each other even we don't talk that much. We are partner in crime.
I'll stay gladly with my assertive side, even though I know that if I were turbulent I were much more successful by now, but I don't think it count for the future
I’m a combination of both, it depends on the current circumstances. I’m driven to always deliver excellence for my customers. And when I’m convinced my position is correct, I hold my ground. Being technically correct is more important to me than compromising for an inferior solution. I prefer to leave any compromises for my customer to make, though I will provide them with a range of detailed alternative solutions for them to choose from.
I’m definitely turbulent. My two biggest talents are finding/solving problems before they even show up. Most of the time people have no idea there was a problem to begin with, and I get satisfaction from being the “unseen magic fairy” protecting people without them knowing about it. My other talent is prediction. I just Know things before they happen. A lot of my actions make no sense to people, but they’ve learned to just let me do my thing. I got fired from a job once because my boss thought I wasn’t doing anything. But when I left, all of the problems I was solving turned into major disasters. Productivity dropped by 60%. My boss called me to come back. I got a massive raise.
Aloha! An INTJ-T here, right now I assessed the comment section and its pretty visible that most of the people (who commented) are the TURBULENT types which kinda proves about the cycle of improvement which is considered more in the T-types (Though I am not an A-type but I can say they would have the tendency to improve cuz at the end of the day no-ones content, everyone needs improvement atleast my INTJ dude and dudettes) , so the above theory that is portrait in this whole video can be considered true as most of the INTJs that came over here (most probably) to explore about themselves so that they'd be able to understand about the overall functioning of their brain, the difference between the two types and how they can implement it in their daily life or what they can learn from it. So yea! Enjoy your UNIQUENESS~
I guess I'm an INTJ-A of sorts. I don't need absolute perfection, I believe in "good enough". I can finish something and then walk away from it. I don't buy into "continuous process improvement" - I've seen too many cases of "if it ain't broke, fix it until it is". Also mistakes are OK, they can be fixed.
I used to be turbulent, but I've inched my way into assertive. Just barely. I'm at 53% assertiveness, so it's almost down the middle. What really helped was I stopped paying so much attention to how I'm feeling and just focused on my goal instead. It took practice, buts it's improved my confidence, capabilities and resiliency. Still have a long way to get to where I want to be though - Antifragile....All you turbulent INTJs out there... self improvement is what we do. Don't be too hard on yourself. When you focus on your goals it lessens entropy, because it creates structure for your life.
I was sitting here thinking the same. I may have been a Turbulent as child/teen but in maturity have become more Assertive. The Turbulent traits perhaps can be brought back to the surface, under the right stress conditions.
I was an INTJ-T several times when I took thé test in the past. I did a lot of personality work and therapy and I think I‘m in the middle of the process to turn into an INTJ-A at the moment. Especially since I know that thé emotional Level is so important for humans 🙈😅
Is Scorpio your sun sign? It maybe worth finding out your moon sign and rising sign. You never know, it might give you some interesting insight and perhaps you can draw a correlation between your personality type and astrological chart. I am INTJ-T, Taurus Sun, Pisces Moon and Aries Rising. And it makes sense in different ways.
Example: An INTJ-T with a Taurus Sun, Pisces Moon, and Aries Rising creates a fascinating blend of personality traits that both complement and challenge one another. Here’s a breakdown of what this might look like: Core Personality Traits (INTJ-T) • INTJ (The Architect): Analytical, strategic, and goal-oriented. You have a strong internal vision and value efficiency, logic, and independence. • Turbulent (T): The “T” indicates a more self-critical and perfectionistic nature, making you introspective and sometimes anxious about whether you’re achieving your full potential. Astrological Layers Taurus Sun (Core Self) • Grounded, practical, and determined. Taurus gives a love of stability, comfort, and material security. • You’re likely patient but can also be stubborn when you’ve made up your mind, aligning with the INTJ’s strong-willed personality. • You value tangible results, which works well with your strategic INTJ thinking style. Pisces Moon (Emotional Core) • Deeply empathetic, sensitive, and intuitive. This Moon placement makes you highly aware of emotions-both yours and others’. • As an INTJ, who is often perceived as detached, your Pisces Moon adds depth and softness to your emotional world, giving you a richer, more nuanced inner life. • However, the Moon’s sensitivity might clash with your INTJ tendency to suppress emotional displays. Aries Rising (Outer Personality) • Dynamic, assertive, and bold. Aries Rising makes you come across as confident, energetic, and proactive. • This placement adds fire and immediacy to your personality, which contrasts with the slow, steady Taurus Sun but complements the INTJ’s drive for leadership and independence. Does the Personality Type Contradict the Astrology Chart? No, it doesn’t contradict-it creates complexity! Here’s how: 1. Taurus Sun + INTJ: • Both align in being methodical, goal-oriented, and focused on long-term success. • Taurus’s need for comfort and consistency harmonizes with the INTJ’s love of structured plans. 2. Pisces Moon + INTJ: • Pisces Moon softens the INTJ’s usual emotional detachment by adding intuition and compassion. • The challenge: INTJs often struggle to process emotions openly, and a Pisces Moon might amplify this internal tug-of-war between logic and feelings. 3. Aries Rising + INTJ: • Both Aries and INTJ share a strong sense of independence and leadership. • However, Aries’s impulsive tendencies may sometimes clash with the INTJ’s calculated approach, creating an internal push-pull between acting quickly and planning carefully. What Does This Look Like as a Person? • Strengths: You’re a determined, ambitious individual who blends practicality (Taurus) with vision (INTJ). While emotionally perceptive (Pisces Moon), you project confidence and energy (Aries Rising). • Challenges: You may feel tension between your logical, forward-thinking mind (INTJ) and your deeply emotional side (Pisces Moon). Additionally, your Aries Rising might push for impulsiveness, which contradicts your Taurus Sun’s preference for caution. • Social Presence: You likely come off as bold and assertive (Aries Rising), but beneath the surface, you’re a more introverted, strategic thinker (INTJ) with a soft emotional core (Pisces Moon). Overall Compatibility Rather than contradicting, your astrology chart adds dimension to your INTJ personality, making you a unique mix of logic, emotion, and dynamism. Balancing these elements is key to thriving.
I guess I'm a bit INTJ-A and INTJ-T. I am always looking to improve myself, including fixing errors of my own. But I'm not stressed about what other people think. In fact, I'm not really stressed at all. If I find something about myself or my situation that I can improve upon, I'll do it. I put a lot of thought and planning into it, but except for concern for how my immediate supervisor views my work ethic, the majority of populace can go jump. I don't need their permission or approval.
Contend we're an intricate mix of both, one being dominant moreso than the other, depending entirely on internal processing of external situations: an A can flip to a T given the necessary pitch trigger to flip the switch, & vise versa: I'll illustrate using 2 different musicians I've followed & studied: Ritchie Blackmore & Neil Peart. Both are INTJs, but Ritchie is more a T expression whereas Neil was definitely more an A expression. Ritchie is completely absorbed into what he's doing, until an external trigger "flips his anger switch" & he vividly explodes his frustration outwardly, making him a challenge to work with, as many documentaries have illustrated. Neil, on the other hand, while also being completely absorbed into is craft, routinely walked away from even his bandmates, processing out his frustration level through extensive bike rides, intense reading, & deliberate isolation when not on stage... Both are utter genius at their respective instruments, but each processes out their frustration levels quite differently. I can relate to both. How I process frustration decides whether I'm more A or T in a given situation. Some things I've never completely settled in my mind, while others I walked away from, completely unscathed. I contend that capability to shift is also a unique trait... we may be predominantly one, but can be triggered to flip to the other... It's all contingent on how each of us minds our mind.🖤
@Secret Server No emotional engagement here: emotions are NOT logical. Emotions cloud judgment, thereby paving the way to decisions that further complicated the issue/situation.🖤
INTJ A I take test 4 times and I always INTJ A I don't care other people think about me. I dont like emotional people. Dealing with them is a waste of time.
I don't believe it's very theoretical when I am an INTJ-A, but have also met the criteria of a INTJ-T the calculations of the tests are so close I'm more in the middle of both -T and -A
I'm more of a Turbulent than Assertive. That said I'm a mix of both. I've always tried to better myself for myself and no for anyone else. I've never cared what others think of me. I did try to change for my first husband and we ended up hating each other and divorced. This was an interesting video. I had wondered what the -A and -T meant after INTJ. My only question is how do these relate to female INTJs which are even more rare.
INTJ-A but have some features of the INTJ-T in re goals. I don’t care about what others think about me because I can see people’s weaknesses miles away. In romantic relationships, I know exactly how the relationship will end before it gets started. What makes me an INTJ, period? I developed a comprehensive (grand) theory of social change in a few months when it took my professor 5 years to plagiarize his. I live between the abstract and empirical worlds. God is good. 👍
As an INTJ-T, it's hard when it seems the only worthwhile accomplishments are the achievements invented by our imagination. The Ni Dom sees the idea, the Te auxillary tries to figure out what the potential is and how to bring it to reality, the fickle Fi tertiary either motivates us to go all in or stop and question what the point of it all is, and the inferior Se puts us to a decision whether we should go through the trouble to display to the world a fraction of our idea that eventually makes it through all the red tape, or take no action and give ourselves a mental pat on the back for our reaching our imaginary goal
I think I am a mix of both. Shifting from one to the other depending on projects and life phases. I think it’s very much okay to do so. During my younger days, I was the T type, ambitious but has since mellowed now to the A type. I think wisdoms have freed some of the perfectionist thoughts and ideas. I am able to see more beauty in imperfections. Or emotions and relations over logics. Vibes over intelligence. I choose my stresses well. However, when situations require my T type, I can switch to it instantly.
I am INTJ-T I love the process of solving the issue I found out and am interesting to improve it And feel soooooo satisfaction when it gets improved It can be tired and stress at some point But I will feel depress if I dun take action. It is ok things may not get improve or resolve But it will be hard to me if I am not even try to take action I will even blame myself of not even try or give up easily
Can someone be 50% A and T because I am assertive but I do look back on my choices as well as learn new things in order to keep my confidence high. But I am confident.
I'm the turbulent type. I push myself too much, twice to burnout, control too much can't let go of dreams at expense of my bodily and mental health. I seek too much for validation and understanding which keeps me stuck to attracting narcissists in all life areas. In some situations I could display type A too. I've become very defensive for 4,5 years. I think I judge too much and oscillate to type A instead. For type A speaks the rebels, when someone at work or in private abuses me or touches me inappropriately they do it once. Type T can be very self-destructive when they people please too much😊 You can notice you oscillate from one type to the other, when you have different parts and several attachment styles, that's my case. 😮 Having been at both extremes, don't find any of the types good. A middle path is better for me
I've had some T times, but I've been working on meditation for a few years now and I'm transitioning to A type. I think it's nature and nurture both important
INFJ here, yep there is defo overlap but there are still major differences if you knew an INFJ!!!. My INTJ-T is my best friend. The T and the F provide balance.
I'm an INTJ-T and I can't say that I relate to a lot of things mentioned in this video. For example, I'm fully aware that my shortcomings are too great for me to overcome, so instead of using that knowledge constructively, I resign myself to a perceived fate of lifelong apathy. Not exactly the common result for this personality type, is it?
the -T and -A doesnt exist in typoloy, it is a made up thing by the 16p test. you are just an INTJ or whatever MBTI you are. or, you could get into ennegram if you wanna find out what type of Intj you are.
I got INTJ-A in various online tests with IQ ranging from 127-145. However the legitimacy of this MBTi is doubtful as there isn't enough data to prove that all these traits apply to one single person.
I’m an unapologetic INTJ-A 😁. Logic, facts, and reality over emotional feelings! People also waste valuable time thinking we give .00000001% about how they feel about us 😄. We either clap back and roast you harder or just shrug. You’re not going to win!
Intja equates to melancholy dominant, phlegmatic secondary, choleric third and Sanguine fourth Intjt equates to melancholy dominant phlegmatic secondary Sanguine third and choleric least
I took the test long back and now when i checked about my personality i found out that mine is the most dangerous personality. I want to change my personality so i took the test again and i am still the same. I am INTJ-A, How can i change my personality? Although i am happy that i share the same personality with some of my fav characters such as katniss Everdeen, lord bailish and the lennister father. But i don’t like elon and obama wife.
Some types can take years to mature. I underperformed at school because I was overly concerned with trying to fit into social groups and acting up in ways that weren't me (class clown for the first half of secondary then fell into drug use in the second). You have a powerful mind - it's a gift. Don't let social pressure get in the way of showing your intelligence. People used to call hard workers a 'keener' or whatever - fuck those people. Aim high.
I was doing so poorly in school that my parents gave up and sent me to a boarding school. I was content with just reading books because most of what I was learning was going to be useless to me. At the boarding school they made me do my work and pretend to care. If you make school a priority, and can convince yourself it's worth excelling at, then you will do fine.
Something needs to get your attention and interest you. You need to know why something is important, and what you can use it for. School admittedly forces you to study some things you will never use. To this day, I've never had a criminal point a gun at me and yell "Diagram a sentence right now, or else". I don't care how some dead guy interprets the writings of some other dead guy, I know how to read and infer. Besides, often the author himself will debunk the "scholar". JRR Tolkien: "it is NOT an allegory". I hated math UNTIL I started seeing a use for it , other than getting a grade. Now, I'm a retired electrical engineer. All this rambling is to say, you will find something that grabs you. You just haven't found it yet.
@@StephenGangi Work smart _and_ hard then you'll meet your goals quickly. Then once you've figured things out and made progress you don't have to work as hard.
I hope you can learn to embrace it. I’m a 71-year-old INTJ-T. I wish I’d known all this information when younger. It would have explained a lot. You are UNIQUE. Embrace and use your wonderful personality to the fullest. ♥ It’s beautiful, rare, and powerful, dear. Never apologize.
@@bunelladunella agreed, the younger the better. It could have saved me a lot of troubles... at the same time, the path we took contributes to our singularities.
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Please can you help how do i know if im INTJ A or INTJ T
I'm the turbulent type and to be honest it's pretty exhausting at times because my head races with thoughts about my work, future, what others opinions are, even society events that I'm not part of. Anything bad that comes on the news can cause me to worry and try to think of solutions even though I have absolutely no power whatsoever to enforce them! Maybe if I was assertive I'd be way more focused on my own tasks, which would be an absolute gem at the moment
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. I appreciate it! And I can relate - although, I can seem to get hyper focused at times, so I seem to be a bit of a blend. 😁
the way you defined urself is exactly how I am
people around me even called me out saying "I'm overthinking stuff" but I still cant help think abt it
maybe I am but I feel like I'll regret it if I dont.
I'm constantly thinking of how I should do certain stuff or what should I do in this particular situation
and tbh, it makes me feel at ease otherwise I'd be anxious thinking of what can happen during that time.
I know the feelings. This is a common with turbulent INTJs.
I'm an assertive INTJ and don't face the same problems as you've described but I feel some of them as well .
This may be due to your Ni Fi Loop.
To overcome this exhausting situation, you must find reliable solutions.
Why don't you start today?
@@DreamChaserOne Hello yes I have begun starting on some solutions 1. I have decided what career I really want to do, something that's going to take a long time and a lot of research, which is what I typically like doing, and it keeps me on the ball. My mind was dragged in many different directions before, because I'm basically interested in most things, but couldn't decide what to focus on. Some things are just going to have to take a back seat for now. All about priorities. 2. I've learned to realise there's not much point trying to find solutions for things I really cannot change, which is one of the reasons I've come to dislike politics, and won't discuss it with anyone. Sure takes a load off your shoulders when you realise the vast majority of things that go on in the world have little to do with you 😁 I'll just focus on how I'm going to adapt to certain changes, which involves keeping my dignity and doing things my way. 3. I've gained great benefit from interacting with the mbti community, and I've gained a great understanding about what that silent force is in my mind, and learned to trust my intuition more in guiding me to do the right thing. The mbti community, knowing that there are others like me, has made that silent voice louder. Problem is a great deal of my thoughts don't really have words attached to them, so this helps. A lot. It's helped me realise what that loop really was that was holding me back for so long. I do love my solitude, though I try to keep in touch with the right people. That's the main thing. Anyway all the best, I'm now going to get absorbed in another book lol
@@Englishsea24 Keep the good spirit up no matter what comes your way anyway...
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Good luck buddy
I hate being INTJ-T the pressure of not achieving my goals crushes me and makes me unproductive which crushes me even more because I lose time.
Then the cycle repeats itself. I wish I could reamin calm like an INTJ-A.
I think I'm an INTJ-A. I'm very calm from the outside. Please just praise me for my calmness. But inside I've a huge storm brewing. Sometimes it feels exhausting.
Also the thinking of not achieving stuff drains me. My parents and kins always try to remind me I've achieved what most dream of, still I'm not satisfied. In my analysis I've always underachieved
I take prescribed beta blockers to do just that. It helps, but not totally.
OMG! Me too! 😭
Im a turbulent INTJ. Dont worry...We're still more assertive than a lot of people.
I'm a turbulent INTJ too. I hate being so stressed and anxious a lot of times when others would be chill💀 But yes as turbulents we tend to push ourselves and are often very successful in general because of that internal need
Have you considered to be a sigma female...
INTJ-A here 👋 I have the desire to do well but if I make a mistake, I'm ok with it. I prefer not to stress about it. My only issue is that I come across very arrogant because I don't care what people think. I'm more concerned about resolving the situation for the greater good than people's feelings or what they think of me. 😅
Wow. Same here, grils.
Same... I'm appreciated as a "natural born leader" wich i don't care, worst, it bother me. Because i just apply ISO 9001 the best way i can and what peoples don't get is that's a duplicable process...
Thats exactly me!
Same
This! ☝️
INTJ-A 74% here life is pretty chill when you don't care abaut small stuff and never stress
Agreed. I've always asked overly stressed-out people how important a given topic is on the grand scale of things.
INTJ-A here 100℅ agreed. We think a lot. but we are pretty chilled😂
I'm an INTJ - T. The cognitive part of being an INTJ is cool but unfortunately when you're a turbulent one you suffer a great deal. I love that I'm good at different things and hobbies but oh boy do I stress a lot. Anything can cause my stress and I always make plan A, B and C. I can't just "go with the flow". It's very tiring
I am intj-t and have ptsd. i'm a blast at parties! But my head tires me tf out.
INTJ-T here. Dislike stress (also very stress receptive) and being a perfectionist. Switched occupation several times when I felt stuck and to learn new things.
I am turbulent INTJ, it's very exhausting sometimes.
It's the INTJ-T who get along best with INFJ, we know how important it is for you to recharge and are the perfect friend to offload to because we 'get' you.
You need to find one. But an INFJ can only handle one INTJ in their life, but that friendship is incredible.
I'm INTJ-T ❤ I do my best to keep the chaos inside while I process my feelings.
INTJ-A here. I didn't get it at first, but after researching that "A", it makes more sense.
The turbulent designation attempts to describe the seemingly stronger attachment to the past as well as a noticeably higher propensity for these types to ruminate. In other words, they struggle with letting things just go or roll right off their backs. As an assertive it has astounded me the level to which I can just get over things these days - a skill which seems to be maturing with age as well. Honestly, I don’t think one is better than the other - each can be a strength or a weakness depending on the context and the desired result vs the actual result. ❤️
As always, thank you so much for your input and you knowledge!
How I wish to be an A. I’ll go and study that a bit 🤣
I have learned to deal with my stress and get out of my head. It took growth.
INTJ Here. Watched your Assessment of the "A" and "T". As Befitting What I am I Listened to the Point of "BUT".
"Attempting to further separate the INTJ Personality Type may not be Helpful" and "Depends More on a Person's Psychological State or Self Development Stage".
Thank You for the Knowledge.
Si Non Confectus, Non Reficiat.
For the ESFJs Reading This... Loosely Translated,
If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It!
I was an INTJ-A when i first took the test and just kinda go along with it while using that information to understand myself more, which i did. As years goes by, i took the test again recently and i get INTJ-T as a resultt. People on Quora discussed that the INTJ-T type to seem like it is about unhealthy INTJ compared to the INTJ-A..and i disagree with that. Knowing the actual facts and descriptions about both type of INTJ from this video give me much relief because i thought i had improved my growth and personality traits to a better state throughout these years, and more so i thought i'd became a resilient, calm, and a more reserved person that is not easily provoked even when in a stressful situation/workplace. So i don't see that INTJ-A type is better than INTJ-T type.. both have its own characteristics that we INTJs should embrace no matter which category you fall into, each to its own. I'm proud with my self growth and achievements so far. Thank you for this video! it's very helpful!
I suspect that gender also plays a role in differentiating the various types of INTJ.
Men and women are different both biologically and mentally. We view the world differently and react differently to it.
Of course, I'm generalizing when I say that, but it's commonly accepted that women tend to be more emotional creatures, whereas men are a bit more rational.
Now, if you have a turbulent INTJ, it makes sense that such a person could be different depending on whether it's man or a woman.
A turbulent INTJ is already more emotional than an assertive one, so if you add, say, a woman's emotional disposition into the mix, the turbulent INTJ
might end up becoming even more turbulent as a result.
Have you considered to be sigma female.
@@barry-michael33 yes i can admit now that i am indeed fall into the sigma female category, although i do not fancy being put into any boxes for that matter😄😄😄 at first i focused on the characteristics of alpha female but as time goes i kept on going back to relation to sigmas. A lone wolf. Too alien for the earth, too human for the outer space. But now I’m embracing myself being a “weirdo” and being different from others wholeheartedly, i understand now that i was never meant to fit in. And I don’t want to fit in anymore. 🌷🩵
Im a terbulant type and it almost makes me dizzy at social gatherings like a party
INTJ-T The grind never stops. There's always more. Perfection is an illusion meant to distract and mislead. Life is a struggle, but it is full of ways to take advantage and change fortunes. Good and bad. Stressful but exhilarating. Like people, it's always dualistic. Life is a chaotic symphony. All we can do is dance until the music stops and hope we miss others' toes.
I'm INTJ-A and my son is INTJ -A too. We dont talk often and both having more time to our " me time"
He's good in Mathematics,Computer and Music. While I'm good in Digital arts learning new languages and running a business.
The funny part we're having different plans and goals. My son is only 16 but he already have a plans and backup plans for his future. So do I. We both craving for knowledge. We understand each other even we don't talk that much. We are partner in crime.
I'll stay gladly with my assertive side, even though I know that if I were turbulent I were much more successful by now, but I don't think it count for the future
There ya go! Most prefer one side or another however, many people float right on that edge 😁 thank you for taking a second to leave a comment! 👍🏻
I’m a combination of both, it depends on the current circumstances. I’m driven to always deliver excellence for my customers. And when I’m convinced my position is correct, I hold my ground. Being technically correct is more important to me than compromising for an inferior solution. I prefer to leave any compromises for my customer to make, though I will provide them with a range of detailed alternative solutions for them to choose from.
I’m definitely turbulent. My two biggest talents are finding/solving problems before they even show up. Most of the time people have no idea there was a problem to begin with, and I get satisfaction from being the “unseen magic fairy” protecting people without them knowing about it.
My other talent is prediction. I just Know things before they happen. A lot of my actions make no sense to people, but they’ve learned to just let me do my thing.
I got fired from a job once because my boss thought I wasn’t doing anything. But when I left, all of the problems I was solving turned into major disasters. Productivity dropped by 60%. My boss called me to come back. I got a massive raise.
Exactly. We see things multidimensional like a kaleidoscope. We are badass thinkers.
Aloha! An INTJ-T here, right now I assessed the comment section and its pretty visible that most of the people (who commented) are the TURBULENT types which kinda proves about the cycle of improvement which is considered more in the T-types (Though I am not an A-type but I can say they would have the tendency to improve cuz at the end of the day no-ones content, everyone needs improvement atleast my INTJ dude and dudettes) , so the above theory that is portrait in this whole video can be considered true as most of the INTJs that came over here (most probably) to explore about themselves so that they'd be able to understand about the overall functioning of their brain, the difference between the two types and how they can implement it in their daily life or what they can learn from it. So yea!
Enjoy your UNIQUENESS~
I guess I'm an INTJ-A of sorts. I don't need absolute perfection, I believe in "good enough". I can finish something and then walk away from it. I don't buy into "continuous process improvement" - I've seen too many cases of "if it ain't broke, fix it until it is". Also mistakes are OK, they can be fixed.
I used to be turbulent, but I've inched my way into assertive. Just barely. I'm at 53% assertiveness, so it's almost down the middle. What really helped was I stopped paying so much attention to how I'm feeling and just focused on my goal instead. It took practice, buts it's improved my confidence, capabilities and resiliency. Still have a long way to get to where I want to be though - Antifragile....All you turbulent INTJs out there... self improvement is what we do. Don't be too hard on yourself. When you focus on your goals it lessens entropy, because it creates structure for your life.
I was sitting here thinking the same. I may have been a Turbulent as child/teen but in maturity have become more Assertive. The Turbulent traits perhaps can be brought back to the surface, under the right stress conditions.
I have all the indicators of an intj-t type, but, I'm basically never stressed, nor do I really care what others think of me 😅
I was an INTJ-T several times when I took thé test in the past. I did a lot of personality work and therapy and I think I‘m in the middle of the process to turn into an INTJ-A at the moment. Especially since I know that thé emotional Level is so important for humans 🙈😅
I disbelieve the Briggs-Meyers system, because I am an INTJ. Likewise, I deny astrology, because I am a Scorpio.
@@nathanielhellerstein5871 Exactly the same here! 🙂
Odd, Scorpios are into occult knowledge. I’m an INTJ and a magnet for Narcissist Scorpios. But as a Gemini and INTJ, they were taken on a ride. 😂
Is Scorpio your sun sign? It maybe worth finding out your moon sign and rising sign. You never know, it might give you some interesting insight and perhaps you can draw a correlation between your personality type and astrological chart. I am INTJ-T, Taurus Sun, Pisces Moon and Aries Rising. And it makes sense in different ways.
Example:
An INTJ-T with a Taurus Sun, Pisces Moon, and Aries Rising creates a fascinating blend of personality traits that both complement and challenge one another. Here’s a breakdown of what this might look like:
Core Personality Traits (INTJ-T)
• INTJ (The Architect): Analytical, strategic, and goal-oriented. You have a strong internal vision and value efficiency, logic, and independence.
• Turbulent (T): The “T” indicates a more self-critical and perfectionistic nature, making you introspective and sometimes anxious about whether you’re achieving your full potential.
Astrological Layers
Taurus Sun (Core Self)
• Grounded, practical, and determined. Taurus gives a love of stability, comfort, and material security.
• You’re likely patient but can also be stubborn when you’ve made up your mind, aligning with the INTJ’s strong-willed personality.
• You value tangible results, which works well with your strategic INTJ thinking style.
Pisces Moon (Emotional Core)
• Deeply empathetic, sensitive, and intuitive. This Moon placement makes you highly aware of emotions-both yours and others’.
• As an INTJ, who is often perceived as detached, your Pisces Moon adds depth and softness to your emotional world, giving you a richer, more nuanced inner life.
• However, the Moon’s sensitivity might clash with your INTJ tendency to suppress emotional displays.
Aries Rising (Outer Personality)
• Dynamic, assertive, and bold. Aries Rising makes you come across as confident, energetic, and proactive.
• This placement adds fire and immediacy to your personality, which contrasts with the slow, steady Taurus Sun but complements the INTJ’s drive for leadership and independence.
Does the Personality Type Contradict the Astrology Chart?
No, it doesn’t contradict-it creates complexity! Here’s how:
1. Taurus Sun + INTJ:
• Both align in being methodical, goal-oriented, and focused on long-term success.
• Taurus’s need for comfort and consistency harmonizes with the INTJ’s love of structured plans.
2. Pisces Moon + INTJ:
• Pisces Moon softens the INTJ’s usual emotional detachment by adding intuition and compassion.
• The challenge: INTJs often struggle to process emotions openly, and a Pisces Moon might amplify this internal tug-of-war between logic and feelings.
3. Aries Rising + INTJ:
• Both Aries and INTJ share a strong sense of independence and leadership.
• However, Aries’s impulsive tendencies may sometimes clash with the INTJ’s calculated approach, creating an internal push-pull between acting quickly and planning carefully.
What Does This Look Like as a Person?
• Strengths: You’re a determined, ambitious individual who blends practicality (Taurus) with vision (INTJ). While emotionally perceptive (Pisces Moon), you project confidence and energy (Aries Rising).
• Challenges: You may feel tension between your logical, forward-thinking mind (INTJ) and your deeply emotional side (Pisces Moon). Additionally, your Aries Rising might push for impulsiveness, which contradicts your Taurus Sun’s preference for caution.
• Social Presence: You likely come off as bold and assertive (Aries Rising), but beneath the surface, you’re a more introverted, strategic thinker (INTJ) with a soft emotional core (Pisces Moon).
Overall Compatibility
Rather than contradicting, your astrology chart adds dimension to your INTJ personality, making you a unique mix of logic, emotion, and dynamism. Balancing these elements is key to thriving.
I was once took the test. The result was INTJ-A. But I know folks perceived me as INFJ.
I must be a turbulent assertive, or maybe an assertive turbulent. Probably depends on what day of the week it is.
It is possible to switch from T to A, takes a lot of work though.
Thanks for spending the time to create and share this content awareness/perspective
Definitely an INTJ-T here, this video helped a lot
I just taken a MBTI test and got INTJ-A this morning.
I’m an intj t
@@mani1o217 likewise
I guess I'm a bit INTJ-A and INTJ-T. I am always looking to improve myself, including fixing errors of my own. But I'm not stressed about what other people think. In fact, I'm not really stressed at all. If I find something about myself or my situation that I can improve upon, I'll do it. I put a lot of thought and planning into it, but except for concern for how my immediate supervisor views my work ethic, the majority of populace can go jump. I don't need their permission or approval.
Contend we're an intricate mix of both, one being dominant moreso than the other, depending entirely on internal processing of external situations: an A can flip to a T given the necessary pitch trigger to flip the switch, & vise versa:
I'll illustrate using 2 different musicians I've followed & studied: Ritchie Blackmore & Neil Peart. Both are INTJs, but Ritchie is more a T expression whereas Neil was definitely more an A expression. Ritchie is completely absorbed into what he's doing, until an external trigger "flips his anger switch" & he vividly explodes his frustration outwardly, making him a challenge to work with, as many documentaries have illustrated. Neil, on the other hand, while also being completely absorbed into is craft, routinely walked away from even his bandmates, processing out his frustration level through extensive bike rides, intense reading, & deliberate isolation when not on stage... Both are utter genius at their respective instruments, but each processes out their frustration levels quite differently.
I can relate to both. How I process frustration decides whether I'm more A or T in a given situation. Some things I've never completely settled in my mind, while others I walked away from, completely unscathed. I contend that capability to shift is also a unique trait... we may be predominantly one, but can be triggered to flip to the other... It's all contingent on how each of us minds our mind.🖤
@Secret Server No emotional engagement here: emotions are NOT logical. Emotions cloud judgment, thereby paving the way to decisions that further complicated the issue/situation.🖤
INTJ A
I take test 4 times and I always INTJ A
I don't care other people think about me. I dont like emotional people. Dealing with them is a waste of time.
I don't believe it's very theoretical when I am an INTJ-A, but have also met the criteria of a INTJ-T the calculations of the tests are so close I'm more in the middle of both -T and -A
I'm more of a Turbulent than Assertive. That said I'm a mix of both. I've always tried to better myself for myself and no for anyone else. I've never cared what others think of me. I did try to change for my first husband and we ended up hating each other and divorced.
This was an interesting video. I had wondered what the -A and -T meant after INTJ. My only question is how do these relate to female INTJs which are even more rare.
INTJ-A but have some features of the INTJ-T in re goals. I don’t care about what others think about me because I can see people’s weaknesses miles away. In romantic relationships, I know exactly how the relationship will end before it gets started.
What makes me an INTJ, period? I developed a comprehensive (grand) theory of social change in a few months when it took my professor 5 years to plagiarize his. I live between the abstract and empirical worlds.
God is good. 👍
As an INTJ-T, it's hard when it seems the only worthwhile accomplishments are the achievements invented by our imagination. The Ni Dom sees the idea, the Te auxillary tries to figure out what the potential is and how to bring it to reality, the fickle Fi tertiary either motivates us to go all in or stop and question what the point of it all is, and the inferior Se puts us to a decision whether we should go through the trouble to display to the world a fraction of our idea that eventually makes it through all the red tape, or take no action and give ourselves a mental pat on the back for our reaching our imaginary goal
Please can you help me how do i find out if im INTJ A or INTJ T
I think I am a mix of both. Shifting from one to the other depending on projects and life phases. I think it’s very much okay to do so. During my younger days, I was the T type, ambitious but has since mellowed now to the A type. I think wisdoms have freed some of the perfectionist thoughts and ideas. I am able to see more beauty in imperfections. Or emotions and relations over logics. Vibes over intelligence. I choose my stresses well. However, when situations require my T type, I can switch to it instantly.
I am INTJ-T
I love the process of solving the issue I found out and am interesting to improve it
And feel soooooo satisfaction when it gets improved
It can be tired and stress at some point
But I will feel depress if I dun take action.
It is ok things may not get improve or resolve
But it will be hard to me if I am not even try to take action
I will even blame myself of not even try or give up easily
Can you help me please how do i find out if im INTJ A or INTJ T
I'M INTJ-T BUT I PERCEIVE WE SHOULDA NOT GET COMPARED WITH OTHERS 👑
This is a bit like 5w4 and 5w6 differences
Yes, it's very much so like that. 👍🏻
Took meyers-briggs, I'm an intj-a-t.
I'd guess which type is prevalent is situational, in my case.
I'm intj, but I cannot tell which to be categorized. It's not up to me to decide but rather the tests themselves. Doesn't matter to me tbh
Can someone be 50% A and T because I am assertive but I do look back on my choices as well as learn new things in order to keep my confidence high. But I am confident.
I'm the turbulent type. I push myself too much, twice to burnout, control too much can't let go of dreams at expense of my bodily and mental health. I seek too much for validation and understanding which keeps me stuck to attracting narcissists in all life areas.
In some situations I could display type A too. I've become very defensive for 4,5 years. I think I judge too much and oscillate to type A instead.
For type A speaks the rebels, when someone at work or in private abuses me or touches me inappropriately they do it once. Type T can be very self-destructive when they people please too much😊
You can notice you oscillate from one type to the other, when you have different parts and several attachment styles, that's my case. 😮
Having been at both extremes, don't find any of the types good. A middle path is better for me
I've had some T times, but I've been working on meditation for a few years now and I'm transitioning to A type. I think it's nature and nurture both important
The worst thing for me is that half of the time my results show 51% Assertive/49% Turbulent and the other way around
They sound so different that intj-t has turned into a infj 😅😅
INFJ here, yep there is defo overlap but there are still major differences if you knew an INFJ!!!. My INTJ-T is my best friend. The T and the F provide balance.
INTJ-T and it's driving me nuts.
Im clearly T.
What if you have elements of both?
the reason why im intj-t is because of perfectionism. also have ocd so that doesnt help
I'm an INTJ-T and I can't say that I relate to a lot of things mentioned in this video.
For example, I'm fully aware that my shortcomings are too great for me to overcome, so instead of using that knowledge constructively, I resign myself
to a perceived fate of lifelong apathy.
Not exactly the common result for this personality type, is it?
You would be surprised. In an intj that isn't healthy mentally will do something like that,and the reason I know this is because I was also there.
they say: The world around you is falling apart. I say: Don't worry; things can get better or worse. Hehe
I'm 51% assertive and 49% turbulent according to 16 personalities. Does that mean I'm both?
the -T and -A doesnt exist in typoloy, it is a made up thing by the 16p test. you are just an INTJ or whatever MBTI you are. or, you could get into ennegram if you wanna find
out what type of Intj you are.
I love to say I eat with my mind
Nice! I may or may not totally steal that from you, now 🤣😁👍🏻 thank you for commenting, I really appreciate it
I got INTJ-A in various online tests with IQ ranging from 127-145. However the legitimacy of this MBTi is doubtful as there isn't enough data to prove that all these traits apply to one single person.
I am a mix of both for sure, separating them into A and T isnt that useful to me, I think!
And, I thought the test results were insulting me when it said I was turbulent.
I’m an unapologetic INTJ-A 😁. Logic, facts, and reality over emotional feelings! People also waste valuable time thinking we give .00000001% about how they feel about us 😄. We either clap back and roast you harder or just shrug. You’re not going to win!
I'm a little bit of both for sure.
Intja equates to melancholy dominant, phlegmatic secondary, choleric third and Sanguine fourth
Intjt equates to melancholy dominant phlegmatic secondary Sanguine third and choleric least
Thank you so much, Vern! 🙌🏻
Anyone else right on the fence?
Yes I am both but only a few things about both
I took the test long back and now when i checked about my personality i found out that mine is the most dangerous personality. I want to change my personality so i took the test again and i am still the same. I am INTJ-A, How can i change my personality? Although i am happy that i share the same personality with some of my fav characters such as katniss Everdeen, lord bailish and the lennister father. But i don’t like elon and obama wife.
I'm in the middle by the test. INTJ
I'm assertive
Thanks man
I'm a turbulent enfp. You think intraverted intuition is bad? Try being a walking idea generator, who's also sad
INTJ T🎉
75% A
INTJ: Obviously, there is nothing for me to learn here on RUclips, so it’s time to go outside.
INTJ t female
I do have intj personality but why i am dump at school does that means it's only for personality but not intellectual
Some types can take years to mature. I underperformed at school because I was overly concerned with trying to fit into social groups and acting up in ways that weren't me (class clown for the first half of secondary then fell into drug use in the second). You have a powerful mind - it's a gift. Don't let social pressure get in the way of showing your intelligence. People used to call hard workers a 'keener' or whatever - fuck those people. Aim high.
I was doing so poorly in school that my parents gave up and sent me to a boarding school. I was content with just reading books because most of what I was learning was going to be useless to me. At the boarding school they made me do my work and pretend to care. If you make school a priority, and can convince yourself it's worth excelling at, then you will do fine.
Something needs to get your attention and interest you. You need to know why something is important, and what you can use it for. School admittedly forces you to study some things you will never use. To this day, I've never had a criminal point a gun at me and yell "Diagram a sentence right now, or else". I don't care how some dead guy interprets the writings of some other dead guy, I know how to read and infer. Besides, often the author himself will debunk the "scholar". JRR Tolkien: "it is NOT an allegory". I hated math UNTIL I started seeing a use for it , other than getting a grade. Now, I'm a retired electrical engineer. All this rambling is to say, you will find something that grabs you. You just haven't found it yet.
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers The INTJ mantra - Don't work hard, work SMART.
@@StephenGangi Work smart _and_ hard then you'll meet your goals quickly. Then once you've figured things out and made progress you don't have to work as hard.
Can we get rid of the he and him? The other half of the species exist as well
Def INTJ-A 😂
misstyped :))
intj-t sucks
I hope you can learn to embrace it. I’m a 71-year-old INTJ-T. I wish I’d known all this information when younger. It would have explained a lot. You are UNIQUE. Embrace and use your wonderful personality to the fullest. ♥ It’s beautiful, rare, and powerful, dear. Never apologize.
No way!!! You just need a INFJ friend to share your thoughts with.
@@bunelladunella agreed, the younger the better. It could have saved me a lot of troubles... at the same time, the path we took contributes to our singularities.