I did a refoam for the first time, hell I don't know when, within the year I guess. Went alright. I put mine in the oven on the lowest heat setting and let them sit in there for an hour. Glad you included clips of the desert party. That is cool.
I have a Cerwin Vega 18" woofer in an Acoustic Control Corporation bass guitar cabinet. The punchiest cabinet I've ever heard, even better than the classic Ampeg 8x10 fridge!
So those foam rings expand? Never seen that happen. Must be some bizarre reaction to your glue. I always use the white PVAC stuff, in fact that's 'ordinary' carpenter's glue. It comes in various grades. I use the strongest one.
I had a pair of Peavey Black Widows that needed re-coned and thought "Let's see if I can find a video on re-coning a speaker...Oh, okay. Let's just send them to someone that knows what they're doing" LOL I do on the other hand I have a pair of early 80's Infinity bookshelf speakers that need re foaming, I think I'll give that a try, I have the surrounds but haven't worked up the nerve to try it yet, rofl. Great video!
Good speaker...i refoamed a set worked great, then the whole paper cone blew out and riped to shreds. So i elmers paper glued it all back together and decided to go ahead and put glue all over the paper cone...still have them today. Still sound good!
One little tip: laquer thinner (nitro thinner) or acetone is your friend to remove the dust cap. Just apply a little bit with a small brush to the border of the cone and the dust cap, let it soak in and eat the glue for a minute, then moisten it again with the thinner and your dust cap can be removed without making zero tear on the cone and the dust cap.
I had to cut a section out of replacement speaker surround like that too when I refoamed my Realistic Mach Two speakers. Rotten foam has led me to get speakers for free that I normally wouldn't have gotten. :-)
Those kids are so mesmerized by the screen. "Look how bulgy this screen is! It's probably gonna explode! Let's sit closer! Oh look it's got lines that blink and go back and forth! It blinks faster than the brake lights on the back of our car! And see all that, I think I heard my dad call that "snow", they must have done that to make the picture fluffy! And it works on lightbulbs, so no wonder you can't buy those anymore!" In 20 years or so those kids are going to find this video in some fully automated face recognition search engine going "Yeah I remember that day", and "Yeah we recognize that foam at the beginning of the video, that's what the entire planet is covered with now".
Ive attempted refoaming Mcintosh and Klipsch woofers several times over the years and for some reason my new surround never stays attached to the cone,ive given up & now send out all woofers & mids to be rebuilt from the basket up ,i wish i could pull off a refoam as good as you did .
I bought a pair of Cerwin Vega 12 inch woofer, midrange and tweeter I dont remember those sizes but they were really good sounding speakers. Like everything else a 25 year old owns I swap them for a 500 watt lenear amp.
i think you did a fine job refoaming! I have a pair of those Vega's from the early 90s. One new in the box, its like new, but the other i put na speaker box it has foam-rotting. But parts of the foam is good...i think part of it might have got sprayed with ArmorAll or something because its ok? weird! Nice Desert Party! And it looks like the kids got home schooled on xrays and proper cyanide handling. Knowledge is power!
I love ya video buddy and love your exploering ones aswell with the mines and its crazy how u pulled all them tvs from there if that was over hear thay would of been smashed buy now and had graphiti all over them haha x
With speaker repairs, if it didn't work before, and it works properly when you're done, then it's a good repair.
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Words of advice: check the OHMS of the speaker before repairing.If the speaker has been used even though the surround is wasted-the VOICE COIL may be damaged from rubbing off center. An exact-o knife with pointed blade will help you remove the dust cap.Put a drop of white nail polish on it before you cut it off above the point where it was originally glued,to help you orient it again correctly.Always use the shims,some kits don't include them E-bay- not the best place to get those surround kits.You may wind up with the same problem(s) as Shango or worse
I wasn't aware that you could purchase replacement foam rubber for speakers! I have trashed old speakers due to this failure - grrrrrrr... I wish I'd known.
Great video as always! Glad to see the re-foam, I have yet to be brave enough to try that repair! Desert party clips, cool...wow, much more fanfare than our "parties in the woods" when I was much younger, in the late 70's, early 80's! 🤣😂😎 That TV looked and sounded great out there! Boxy Dan, was that you, DJ'ing!? 😊
Something about the foam Cerwin Vega used. It just does not last. I have a pair of Welton towers made in 1999. You can see them on my channel. Those are foam surrounds. And awesome ending!
We send ours to a place over in Dallas Tx that rework them. I tries DIY and it's not for me. I'd rather pay the pros to do it right because the speakers we have make us money several times a year. And what was that at the end some annual train hobo party in the desert??
Simply Speakers has a similar kit for around the same price but no shims or cover, but they have a pretty wide selection including replacements for the old Radio Shack subs.
I used one of their kits to re-foam my circa 1975 EPI 250s back in 2000. They fit correctly, but do go the extra step of shimming. I managed to do 3 out of 4 woofers without them rubbing though.
That's my success rate as well; I did 2 Fosgate 12" X series subs and 2 RS 8" woofers. The Fosgates were perfect, but one 8" would rub but only with heavy bass like the intro song for The Sopranos. Very annoying since it was hooked up to my entertainment center at the time.
I wonder if you could substitute shamois, or a soft leather, for those crappy foam suspension/surrounds? There were speakers made back in the 1930s that used it, rather then paper, and they are often still good. When he said he wasn't going to redo it properly I was picturing him cutting up an old flannel shirt and gluing it on the cone.
In the 90s I had some early 60s Acoustic research speakers from the early 60s... they had some type of moulded fabric suspension. The surround were in excellent shape but the paper cones began to dry rot and disintegrate.
Funny effect on the foam after applying glue...I wonder if the glue supplied by them allowed the foam to flop? It may now stretch a little after drying, though I doubt it would make a jot of difference. EDIT Oh the glue was the stuff they sent?? White?
Wicked content at that party. I used to work for my local Curtis Mathes as a young 18 year old electronics geek - I was the store tech for a summer before college - which means I barely knew enough to discharge things before I got shocked. And I still have some vintage Cerwin Vega D7s somewhere. Is that enough to get an invite to that party? :)
It is important to use shims on the hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented.
bought a pair of 3wy utah celestas ( actually triaxes in 71 mounted in cabinets i still use, a hundred bucks the pair,with a panasonic amfmcassettem total cost 200, bro had a sansui A 1000, receiver,turntable from okinawa 800 bucks,,he heardmy system,'man that sounds better than my set up',,,,,those utahs gave up the ghost not until 1988,,outlasting a pairiof goodmans achromat 2 ways ( 379 bucks bought in 1983
I no longer buy any speakers that foam drivers. I only look for Butal Rubber, which will last forever. Still very good video on how to repair those shitty things.
If I buy a speaker the first thing I look for is a foam rubber surround. If the speaker is made with I will not buy it. Butyl rubber surround, corrugated treated fabric or paper ( on classic units) is all I will buy. These foam surround speakers are the ultimate in built-in obsolescence.
I wish I could do that I have a pair of Realistic mach 3 and the foam on one is crumbling. I'm disabled now and I have problems with my right hand. The speakers look new. No scratches, and perfect grills.
Loved the party clips! The tv was great, the kids had probably never seen a crt!
volvo09 maybe a BPC at their grandparents house.
The kids are enjoying that big cool TV. Reminds me of me and my bother 40 years ago. All they need now is a Atari
It looks like those kids were really enjoying learning how to unload their sodium cyanide.
And learn about the turbo encabulator.
At FMC
the one hippie fellow at the party is quite a flamingo dancer!
lol
@@shiftedphase not in the desert. instead skinny girls are the substitute
Looks like fun.
We run a similar thing here in Aus out in the forest every year, just not with the retro stuff, but plenty of lights and sound!
These were good speakers I remember in the 90s these were the thing
I have a beer soaked pair in the garage they're great party speakers
I went to a WWE wrestling event here in the UK last night, their sound system was 22,000watts
Brah, Vega's were a 1988 thing that just so happened to spill over to early 1990 to those who didn't want to let go of the party.
I did a refoam for the first time, hell I don't know when, within the year I guess. Went alright. I put mine in the oven on the lowest heat setting and let them sit in there for an hour. Glad you included clips of the desert party. That is cool.
Thank you, I always wondered if the foam was repairable. It's good to know that that there's kits available and it's not to difficult to repair them.
You teach me to be less paranoic with all my stuff, and this is a good thing!
thats one cool party at the end , wish we had those in Ireland.
You were playing your health and safety videos. I binge watch that playlist.
I have a Cerwin Vega 18" woofer in an Acoustic Control Corporation bass guitar cabinet. The punchiest cabinet I've ever heard, even better than the classic Ampeg 8x10 fridge!
They're not too bad but aluminium drivers deliver the best sound
That's why I like my infinity SM-152s. Made in the early 90s and they are still in incredible condition.
Ha ha your console had some bass reinforcement. That was damn cool looking.
I love the dance party at the end.
So those foam rings expand? Never seen that happen. Must be some bizarre reaction to your glue. I always use the white PVAC stuff, in fact that's 'ordinary' carpenter's glue. It comes in various grades. I use the strongest one.
I feel like there was a strong potential for interesting drugs at this event.
"just grab your phone and make us your own reconing a big aZZ speaker video" LOL, hilarious
I had a pair of Peavey Black Widows that needed re-coned and thought "Let's see if I can find a video on re-coning a speaker...Oh, okay. Let's just send them to someone that knows what they're doing" LOL I do on the other hand I have a pair of early 80's Infinity bookshelf speakers that need re foaming, I think I'll give that a try, I have the surrounds but haven't worked up the nerve to try it yet, rofl. Great video!
The ending was giving me flashbacks man!
1:24 "It comes with shims"
Excuse me, but I believe the 2019 name for those is "ma'ams"
Nice video! And nobody told the kids that this CRT does not have a touchscreen *hrhr*
Wolfgang Mahringer they did not think it was a touch screen. They were trying to catch the moving Images like how a cat would do.
Mmm, thanks for the tip on re-coning as i have to re-cone one myself because my daughter's rabbit ate the rubber ring!
Love you shango xxoo
Nice woofer repair and the old big monster tv works nice aswel :-)
nothing like an orange sunshine desert party
Good speaker...i refoamed a set worked great, then the whole paper cone blew out and riped to shreds. So i elmers paper glued it all back together and decided to go ahead and put glue all over the paper cone...still have them today. Still sound good!
I lost it when I saw the tv playing the turbo encabulator video!
@jason9022 7:04 I believe that's the Rockwell Automation version of the turbo encabulator, but there it is.
@@madmanmapper Ive always had issues with my dingle arm lunar wanes dammit.
@@rancherfarmerguy Really? It's always the magneto reluctors for me.
Great party!
One little tip: laquer thinner (nitro thinner) or acetone is your friend to remove the dust cap. Just apply a little bit with a small brush to the border of the cone and the dust cap, let it soak in and eat the glue for a minute, then moisten it again with the thinner and your dust cap can be removed without making zero tear on the cone and the dust cap.
Wow I like that music at the party, would have liked to join and party with ya guys haha. Unfortunately I live far far away from that place :(
Mate - now I'm buzzing :)
Regards from UK england
hello 123 do this for your guy Fawkes night
Great work, and as always thank you, for the entertaining video :)
Disco Einstein On The Beach? I'm impressed.
I love the flamingo dancer!
Looks like a wild party
7:04 The Turbo Encabulator video! Love that video! Great for a technical class
I had to cut a section out of replacement speaker surround like that too when I refoamed my Realistic Mach Two speakers. Rotten foam has led me to get speakers for free that I normally wouldn't have gotten. :-)
I had a 15 inch pair of those they kicked ass
Those kids are so mesmerized by the screen. "Look how bulgy this screen is! It's probably gonna explode! Let's sit closer! Oh look it's got lines that blink and go back and forth! It blinks faster than the brake lights on the back of our car! And see all that, I think I heard my dad call that "snow", they must have done that to make the picture fluffy! And it works on lightbulbs, so no wonder you can't buy those anymore!"
In 20 years or so those kids are going to find this video in some fully automated face recognition search engine going "Yeah I remember that day", and "Yeah we recognize that foam at the beginning of the video, that's what the entire planet is covered with now".
While it lacked the punch of the 'Disco Inferno' monent, from last year, looks awesome. A high bar for next year!
Great fun refoaming speakers
Ive attempted refoaming Mcintosh and Klipsch woofers several times over the years and for some reason my new surround never stays attached to the cone,ive given up & now send out all woofers & mids to be rebuilt from the basket up ,i wish i could pull off a refoam as good as you did .
Nice work. Thanks.
Awesome video! Nice job on the speaker
I bought a pair of Cerwin Vega 12 inch woofer, midrange and tweeter I dont remember those sizes but they were really good sounding speakers. Like everything else a 25 year old owns I swap them for a 500 watt lenear amp.
i think you did a fine job refoaming! I have a pair of those Vega's from the early 90s. One new in the box, its like new, but the other i put na speaker box it has foam-rotting. But parts of the foam is good...i think part of it might have got sprayed with ArmorAll or something because its ok? weird! Nice Desert Party! And it looks like the kids got home schooled on xrays and proper cyanide handling. Knowledge is power!
Nice job on the speaker shango, it would have been a shame to waste good bass units.
Not sure what the people at the end were on, silly pills :-D
I love ya video buddy and love your exploering ones aswell with the mines and its crazy how u pulled all them tvs from there if that was over hear thay would of been smashed buy now and had graphiti all over them haha x
With speaker repairs, if it didn't work before, and it works properly when you're done, then it's a good repair.
Words of advice: check the OHMS of the speaker before repairing.If the speaker has been used even though the surround is wasted-the VOICE COIL may be damaged from rubbing off center.
An exact-o knife with pointed blade will help you remove the dust cap.Put a drop of white nail polish on it before you cut it off above the point where it was originally glued,to help you orient it again correctly.Always use the shims,some kits don't include them
E-bay- not the best place to get those surround kits.You may wind up with the same problem(s) as Shango or worse
Is this where the Big Girls are?
I saw none. The quest for the big girls continues :(
Shango Speaker refoams a speaker like a boss... i try starts on fire like homer making cereal LOL :p
P.S i would run that speaker all day
Fun Vid. I saw that Olds 98 with the 2 giant console TVs strapped to roof again. Veteram & Pico area.
Need to rewatch this because i'm going to refoam speakers out of a pair of Sony SS-U701AVs from a whole Sony stereo rack i didn't make a video on yet.
That is waaayy friggin' cool!!!
Maybe my friend skipped the step when you do the shims, his speaker sounds like its spitting after the refoam
I wasn't aware that you could purchase replacement foam rubber for speakers! I have trashed old speakers due to this failure - grrrrrrr... I wish I'd known.
cool job, cool party, love it ! people have fun ^^
Great video as always! Glad to see the re-foam, I have yet to be brave enough to try that repair! Desert party clips, cool...wow, much more fanfare than our "parties in the woods" when I was much younger, in the late 70's, early 80's! 🤣😂😎
That TV looked and sounded great out there! Boxy Dan, was that you, DJ'ing!? 😊
Doing a re-foam on a pair of American Accoustics Labs 15"s from 1978 this week!
I still have my Cerwin Vega's, they just sit because they did the same thing. A shame because they were Great speakers. Thanks.
Top man as ever good interesting stuff
Always tricky. Man, I wish they made those more repairable.
I love Midwest Speaker I live 20 minutes from them
I've noticed in my experience that the ones that comment with attitude are ones that have zero content on their channels, or usually very little.
So, did the console end up burning? :)
Love this desert party idea lol
Safety first! Pink flamingos second.
So thats how they get those retro audio clips into my musak.
I call dibs on the red mercury.
Was that Terrence McKenna at the end with the Flamingos? LOL! RIP TM!!
Something about the foam Cerwin Vega used. It just does not last. I have a pair of Welton towers made in 1999. You can see them on my channel. Those are foam surrounds.
And awesome ending!
👍 the 🐇 video
@@stanervin6108 LOL Yeah that was a bit of luck and timing, and I happened to have a camera handy.
Garrett Claridge will blow them up
@@manFromPeterborough Each tower probably weighs about as much as he does.
What song is playing around the 6 minute mark? Sounds pretty interesting
"Shango's at Burning Man. Shango's at Burning Man. Burning Man! Burning Man!"
Never even knew that was repairable. I just figured you had to toss it and get a new speaker.
We send ours to a place over in Dallas Tx that rework them. I tries DIY and it's not for me. I'd rather pay the pros to do it right because the speakers we have make us money several times a year. And what was that at the end some annual train hobo party in the desert??
Simply Speakers has a similar kit for around the same price but no shims or cover, but they have a pretty wide selection including replacements for the old Radio Shack subs.
I used one of their kits to re-foam my circa 1975 EPI 250s back in 2000. They fit correctly, but do go the extra step of shimming. I managed to do 3 out of 4 woofers without them rubbing though.
That's my success rate as well; I did 2 Fosgate 12" X series subs and 2 RS 8" woofers. The Fosgates were perfect, but one 8" would rub but only with heavy bass like the intro song for The Sopranos. Very annoying since it was hooked up to my entertainment center at the time.
Has a real nice picture for a "Burning Man" set
To bad you have to burn it when done. save the chassis
Damn that looks like a good time
I wonder if you could substitute shamois, or a soft leather, for those crappy foam suspension/surrounds? There were speakers made back in the 1930s that used it, rather then paper, and they are often still good. When he said he wasn't going to redo it properly I was picturing him cutting up an old flannel shirt and gluing it on the cone.
In the 90s I had some early 60s Acoustic research speakers from the early 60s... they had some type of moulded fabric suspension. The surround were in excellent shape but the paper cones began to dry rot and disintegrate.
I made new surrounds for an old Walsh OHM "F". I'll bet I have one of the few functioning OHM "F"s in America.
Funny effect on the foam after applying glue...I wonder if the glue supplied by them allowed the foam to flop? It may now stretch a little after drying, though I doubt it would make a jot of difference.
EDIT Oh the glue was the stuff they sent?? White?
i have two c ws heds great spks love them
Greetings from Phillipines
Party needed more chicks! The hippie flamingo dude really got down.
Nice 👍👍👍👍
Wicked content at that party. I used to work for my local Curtis Mathes as a young 18 year old electronics geek - I was the store tech for a summer before college - which means I barely knew enough to discharge things before I got shocked. And I still have some vintage Cerwin Vega D7s somewhere. Is that enough to get an invite to that party? :)
Miniature Burning Man event? Hey, where's all the pretty girls, fire breathers and sword swallowers?
So that's the desert party that you mentioned about. Did they run generators? If so, what kind were they?
I'm interested too. I hear those tiny Honda ones are really quiet and are good on gas.
It is important to use shims on the hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented.
@5:40 when the molly kicks in
bought a pair of 3wy utah celestas ( actually triaxes in 71 mounted in cabinets i still use, a hundred bucks the pair,with a panasonic amfmcassettem total cost 200, bro had a sansui A 1000, receiver,turntable from okinawa 800 bucks,,he heardmy system,'man that sounds better than my set up',,,,,those utahs gave up the ghost not until 1988,,outlasting a pairiof goodmans achromat 2 ways ( 379 bucks bought in 1983
I no longer buy any speakers that foam drivers. I only look for Butal Rubber, which will last forever.
Still very good video on how to repair those shitty things.
If I buy a speaker the first thing I look for is a foam rubber surround. If the speaker is made with I will not buy it. Butyl rubber surround, corrugated treated fabric or paper ( on classic units) is all I will buy. These foam surround speakers are the ultimate in built-in obsolescence.
I wish I could do that I have a pair of Realistic mach 3 and the foam on one is crumbling. I'm disabled now and I have problems with my right hand. The speakers look new. No scratches, and perfect grills.
I wouldn’t have done it that way... and I haven’t even watched the video yet! 🤪
That tv at the end was cool and strange. and the kid was having way too good of a time
PARTY great :-)
Cool
I need this done you charging for this service?