I know what you mean man, but honestly I wish they would take more time to do it so we can get DLC for Rebirth and even if they have to take longer I don't mind. It has been an amazing journey for the fans and I don't want it to end.
@@mtem7068of this caliber? Nah.. games are getting bigger and bigger. Devs cant make them in 1-2 years like before Also, rebirth is over 100 hours long thats not really a bad deal at all.
@@mtem7068 It depends. Looking back at the Mass Effect trilogy, that was about 6 years in one generation, but the third installment was heavily criticised. It would have been better for them to work on it longer, maybe one or two years more. I don't want that to happen to FF7 part 3. Also sometimes these things take a long time, something like GTA6 has taken years. FF7 - 3 will be another 200+ hour game, maybe close to 300+. I have no problem with that as long as they don't rush it and get it right.
Square Enix is on a ROLL and I'm so happy for them! The thing I REALLY want to see in Part 3 is when Vincent and Sephiroth FINALLY encounter each other! If they end up having some kind of conflict when they DO meet, that's going to be wild! I just PRAY and HOPE that Vincent can knock some sense into Sephiroth's head! The man is messed up and NOT in a good way! But I also heard that my favorite character may actually end up dying for real, but it's NOT confirmed yet by the devs themselves for Part 3. Thank God. 😌😌
I'm not sure why people think moving to multiplatform day1 release is only positive. No, that is not correct. Yes, it is positive in terms of more people can play it at the same time, but no, it is not absolutely positive from the actual development time AND the quality of the product. With more platform to target at the same time, you need more resource and also more time to do it, thus potentially something that can release sooner if you target 1 platform will probably all come out like a year later depending on how many platform they want to target and the quality they want to achieve. Also quality is not only about bugs but also optimization and performance target. Plenty of 3rd party games (especially those that use the latest features) nowadays run not so great on console and some of that has to do with the gulf between PC hardware and console hardware becomes bigger. Right now console is around $500 but 5090 is just released and it cost $2000. From what I observe, I feel like if you give devs a top end hardware, they can't help but want to maximize the quality based on that hardware, thus what you get is something that is made for these very expensive hardware and then they try to downscale it and console gamers and people with mid to low end hardware have a hard time to run the game or specifically for PC, they need to turn down settings even if they have new hardware (like 4060 or 7600 class GPU) and on some games, the lower settings doesn't look great, probably worse than some other games. Most people think that it is great for gamers, but the company didn't do it for gamers, they do it for the bottom line, for the money. And of course if they do it for the money, usually what ended up suffering is the quality. This doesn't mean the devs is doing it for money, but the higher up want more money sooner, thus pressure the devs to do it. While I don't have a PS5, I think I prefer games to be released on console first, thus they need to at least target their game to look and run good on console since it will be the first hardware where gamers can play their games. It will force them to make a more optimized game. Of course there are devs that can do good multiplatforms release, but it feels like nowadays it is more of the exception rather than the rule (again, mostly for games that using the latest tech in graphics, definitely those that use Unreal Engine 5).
Played the Steam version of Rebirth, and it is so amazing! Definitely the definitive edition for the game. I don't have the craziest of a rig. But my 3060ti is putting in work! As for Part 3. For someone who bought a PS5 for FFXVI, sold it. Then, I bought another for Rebirth. I do hope PT3 is a multi plat release. I primarily play PC and prefer to not to have to buy new hardware for games. Even though I will for Final Fantasy I know Square have some sort of contract obligation to have some exclusivity for the trilogy. But it's just not worth it for the consumers or the devs. I'd prefer if FFVII Remake Part 3 was able to be in the hands of all platform users including Xbox & Switch 2!
Part 3 most likely I imagine will be a Playstation exclusive (which will suck a bit but I think it will be understandable) as this will be one of the last exclusives Square does going forward on any platform as it will be a holdover from the earlier days when they were still doing exclusives, so Square might let this one pass because its part of a trilogy and might let Sony hold onto this one last time really temporarily. It's possible they could just go multiplatform on release now but I kind of doubt it for Part 3. I think it makes sense at this point to just do an even shorter exclusivity window on PS5 for even less time than Rebirth here when it came to PC today, 11 months later. I imagine Part 3 will be exclusive this time for the 3 months but the PC version for Part 3 might be out in 4-6 months next time around (including the Xbox and Switch 2 ports). I don't know, just making this up, but I imagine that will be the timeline for Part 3's porting schedule, but that won't be until 2027 at this point for the 30th anniversary of OG FFVII. Then when PS6 comes out including the next Xbox (if there will be one in traditional form), maybe a trilogy remaster in some form to cleanup some in-game assets on Remake and Rebirth for example.
@@tabbofii BC gave us Kalm retconned as another Nibelheim "destroyed/rebuilt fake town" which ruins the grey morality in the OG of Kalm benefiting from Shinra and liking them, as now they are not a neutral population with a valuable perspective but instead "employees as replacement civvilians" so an untrustworthy source. The pre-Barret AVALANCHE being either puppets of Rufus against his father or puppets of a second-rate Hojo wannabe really tarnish the organisation's competence and ideology, seemingly for the intention of raising up the Turks who instead of the mafia/Gestapo they are in the OG get treated as cutesy Men in Black pretty marketable assassins. Yuffie begins her slide down character-wise from the vengeful out-of-control teenager she was in the OG to being the likeable "genki girl"/little sister we see in AC, DC, CC and the remake trilogy. And BC also has a Weapon showing up long before the OG team give the Black Materia to Sephiroth at the Northern Cave. If a Weapon is even mentioned in passing in the Turks reports from BC, then the actions of President Shinra, Rufus, Scarlet and Hojo in the OG must be impacted. The one good thing in BC was seeing Elfe as a female leader of AVALANCHE who can stand up to Sephiroth. She had a pretty character design and aesthetic. But that gets undermined because of course there can't be a female strong character in the league of the SOLDIERS, the shonen self-inserts for the Japanese male audience, it has to be a piece of materia implanted in her that is the root of her strength, and of course that strength has to shown as a negative (i.e. it is slowly killing her) to reinforce Japanese gender roles. That's just BC. It gets so much worse in AC, DC and CC.
So it took Nomura 10 months to work this all out. No way it’s the same as og then and hopefully ac and dirge aren’t the future and remake was a sequel to them all along😊
I would say yes. The characters are very well written and performed and personally I really like the way they’re handling the story. The combat really shines too.
I don't know if I am in the minority here, whenever I read anyone's comments regarding this it's usually about 50/50 maybe 40/60, BUT, I REEEEEEEALLY hope they made the switch to Unreal Engine 5! I LOVED Part 2, but it really was missing the technological advancements that UE5 could bring, and is running on a really old and highly customized version of UE4 from what I've read, HOW customized could be exaggerated, but I really think Part 3 would highly benefit from UE5, from the LOD's/texture pop-in, the LIGHTING(omg how many complaints about the overall saturated lighting I've read) to the PS2 looking assets sprinkled in the world, to the terrible looking ocean texture to the blurry performance mode, I mean so much can be improved upon with UE5. ESPECIALLY since they stated they were struggling with making the Highwind truly explorable and open-work, but with UE5's fast streaming and bandwidth improvements mixed with the PS5's super fast SSD and I/O throughput speeds, they could make it totally possible. Yea, people are gonna complain and say "WeLL, hOw MAnY Ue5 gAMeS hAVe teCHniCAL iSSuES?" but those games were built off of the earlier UE5 build, it's already at version 5.5 and has had MAJOR upgrades and improvements, and even if there are still issues, I'd rather the benefits of UE5 along with those issues, than the old UE4 quality along with IT'S own issues. Also, it's much easier and feasible to improve and upgrade any issues in the future than to change the base of the game, if it's on UE4, that version is no longer getting support from Epic, so the devs are on their own and we're stuck with that build of the game, but with UE5, we can get all the bells and whistles, and if there's issues those can be updated in the future since the build is built on UE5 as a base and there's support from Epic. If this game comes out earliest in 2027 if not more than likely 2028, it's gonna be running on like a 10-12 year old version of an old engine, and this game is really important and special to so many people I want them to really focus on an innovative and quality experience, even if it means waiting a few months longer, big deal if it doesn't release for the 30th anniversary, they can still show off the trailer during the 30th anniversary to make it just as special. Anyway, regardless of what they chose to do(cause at this point it's decided already based on what he said in the article) I just hope it's wonderful, and I don't mind waiting for quality whichever route they took... And ALSO, even if they are using a customized engine, it doesn't mean they have to continue using that customized toolset if UE5 already comes with tools that address the same need/concern, as a matter of fact the tools in UE5 could be even more beneficial or efficient for the devs even if it means taking some time to learn them. My hope is they switch, give us an incredible finale, and then update part 1 and 2 to part 3's quality and re-release it as a trilogy package for PS, Xbox and PC for the rest of time.
It depends, mainly on how far on development the game is in. The team for part 3 has been working on it for X amount of years and the teams of remake and now rebirth are helping with development. And at the time they stated they'll try to go for a muti platform strategy, the contract with Sony Entertainment may still be in effect for the trilogy Am I predicting the future? No, just based on the current situation
A lot of people either don’t understand (or don’t respect) the concept of PLAYER AGENCY. That’s why they can’t accept that Cloud’s relationship will be left ambiguous permanently and on purpose (as it should be) precisely because the developers want to respect everyone’s head cannon. Like you said, it’s not THE POINT of the story; to make it such is very reductive on the part of certain fans.
I used to have the same thoughts, but if you press the story a bit further it's actually quite apparent that player agency has no role in Cloud after he regains himself in disc 2. The choices you make as Cloud only truly exist insofar as Cloud isn't his true self. Once he is back to normal post-lifestream sequence it's evident from the remaining game as well as compilation material that Cloud and Tifa are the intended romantic pairing, with Aerith's place in the love triangle serving as narrative red herring, since her primary role was always to be the external heroine who saves the planet. She was created first for that reason in the storyboarding process. Tifa was created afterwards to serve as the heroine for the internal plot revolving around the party members - primarily Cloud. She's the reason he joined SOLDIER, regained himself in the lifestream, and post-game is willingly living with her Denzel and Marlene as a family. Nojima has said that ambiguity will be reduced in the remake. And Hamaguchi saying that the game's content will do the talking couldn't be any more clear given that they have Cloud and Tifa just about to kiss in a main-story cutscene, then actually kissing in Gold Saucer. If it was about ambiguity and providing both sides fan-service then both heroines could've had. And this bonding between Cloud and Tifa is all taking place in part of the OG story where nothing really happens between the two, as next game is where their character relationship truly escalates based on the OG. There's no doubt that Aerith and Cloud develop a special bond but the story circumstances don't allow for it to actualize any deeper, by intention, since tragedy, grief, and dealing with loss were the primary themes Sakaguchi wanted to depict in FF7.
Oooo, that's actually kind of interesting. I was thinking Holy was exploring the lifestream to see if mankind was worth saving(there's a lot to this theory of mine but for times sake) I can see your theory though. Sephiroth at the edge of creation seemingly going over past events. Maybe even tying into the parts of himself he shed. Bro I can't wait for part 3!!!! I need to know!!
@@ocean_0602 Except you’re wrong, as Aerith literally calls Cloud her koibito in the novel set after her death, and also stated that there were many things she wanted to tell him, but she didn’t know what to say, or how. Even after the main story Cloud and Tifa aren’t in a relationship. They sleep in separate rooms and beds, and never do or say anything romantic in any novel, AC, or Dirge. In fact Tifa herself proves they aren’t a couple, as she states that she doesn’t know what she and Cloud are to each other. They live together as a family of friends, sharing the load of their guilt and wounds, which is another thing said by her. Cloud, Tifa, Marlene, and Denzel all live together during AC, while Barret returns to living with them after AC. Shelke begins living with them after Dirge. She takes advantage of a vulnerable Cloud, and tries to kiss him despite him not given her a reason to assume he’s romantically interested in him. They had a fight in Kalm, then make up in Junon only for her to spoil it by testing him. She had little or no reason to think he was interested. Also she was the only one trying to kiss, he was confused. The gondola kiss was out of character, it’s what Zack would do. But it’s irrelevant because it’s optional, and not canon. But the CA date at the end is not optional, and it’s also canon. The devs will never make either ship canon, they’ve proved that by having decades since the OG, and two full game’s to end the love triangle and haven’t. Instead they provided moments for them both, along with player choice.
FF7 was not really on my radar until 2020 when Remake came out. I had seen Advent Children because it was another cool looking CGI movie along with Spirits Within, but didn’t really understand what was going on
Please someone MOD the game to have the "Zero Chadley Run". All the same stuff is still there, you just don't get the annoying notifications and tasks. For example, when fighting regional bosses - Mindflayer, Quetzcoatl, etc,. - let the player roam around the map and happen upon the boss's arena. When near the arena make the screen shake to warn the player of an incoming Big Bad. If you keep walking forward the shake becomes more violent (controller vibrates) and once you reach the Event Horizon you consent to engage in combat. THE END. I can post some more Chadless ideas in your next video if need be.
Never underestimate the modding community ability to donthat kind of stuff, they did something like that in gow with atreas talking to much, im sure they can pull something like that off in ff7 rebirth
I don’t agree with that. I felt a goos deal pf emotion with Sephiroth now as an adult with his polygonal hand gestures, slow walks, & movements. As a kid. I always saw him as this shadowy figure.
You might want to borrow it back for a couple of months once part 3 comes out? I imagine it will still be a slightly staggered launch, even if only a couple of months. (Might only be like 3 months tho 🤞)
@Kean_Bean i can wait til it comes out later. Especially if we're like two years out from it. What's a couple more months to play it on something i prefer and to not have to deal with the weird ps5 controller.
@Kean_Bean yeah for sure especially since they have so much of the framework done for pt 3 now they just get to expand and refine. Def will be a hard wait if there is a long gap between sony release and other platforms. But i'd like to think square has had some chats with sony to make it less timegated.
@ Yeh that seemed to be narrower for Remake anyway. I think their internal policy shifted a little as well. Sounds like execs just expected it to outsell Remake on PS5 alone for some reason. I think they are a bit more urgent to get it on other systems asap from now on.
As a fan of both the OG and remake I know the last part is gonna make me cry, I first cleared the OG when I was 16, Im turning 30 this year.
I literally can not wait for the third part of the Final Fantasy VII remake trilogy
I know what you mean man, but honestly I wish they would take more time to do it so we can get DLC for Rebirth and even if they have to take longer I don't mind. It has been an amazing journey for the fans and I don't want it to end.
@@A203D10+ years is diabolical for a trilogy
@@mtem7068of this caliber? Nah.. games are getting bigger and bigger. Devs cant make them in 1-2 years like before
Also, rebirth is over 100 hours long thats not really a bad deal at all.
@@mtem7068 It depends. Looking back at the Mass Effect trilogy, that was about 6 years in one generation, but the third installment was heavily criticised. It would have been better for them to work on it longer, maybe one or two years more. I don't want that to happen to FF7 part 3.
Also sometimes these things take a long time, something like GTA6 has taken years. FF7 - 3 will be another 200+ hour game, maybe close to 300+. I have no problem with that as long as they don't rush it and get it right.
Square Enix is on a ROLL and I'm so happy for them! The thing I REALLY want to see in Part 3 is when Vincent and Sephiroth FINALLY encounter each other! If they end up having some kind of conflict when they DO meet, that's going to be wild! I just PRAY and HOPE that Vincent can knock some sense into Sephiroth's head! The man is messed up and NOT in a good way! But I also heard that my favorite character may actually end up dying for real, but it's NOT confirmed yet by the devs themselves for Part 3. Thank God. 😌😌
Dude, love your content and thinking around FFVII, please keep it up! ❤
I'm not sure why people think moving to multiplatform day1 release is only positive. No, that is not correct. Yes, it is positive in terms of more people can play it at the same time, but no, it is not absolutely positive from the actual development time AND the quality of the product. With more platform to target at the same time, you need more resource and also more time to do it, thus potentially something that can release sooner if you target 1 platform will probably all come out like a year later depending on how many platform they want to target and the quality they want to achieve. Also quality is not only about bugs but also optimization and performance target. Plenty of 3rd party games (especially those that use the latest features) nowadays run not so great on console and some of that has to do with the gulf between PC hardware and console hardware becomes bigger. Right now console is around $500 but 5090 is just released and it cost $2000. From what I observe, I feel like if you give devs a top end hardware, they can't help but want to maximize the quality based on that hardware, thus what you get is something that is made for these very expensive hardware and then they try to downscale it and console gamers and people with mid to low end hardware have a hard time to run the game or specifically for PC, they need to turn down settings even if they have new hardware (like 4060 or 7600 class GPU) and on some games, the lower settings doesn't look great, probably worse than some other games.
Most people think that it is great for gamers, but the company didn't do it for gamers, they do it for the bottom line, for the money. And of course if they do it for the money, usually what ended up suffering is the quality. This doesn't mean the devs is doing it for money, but the higher up want more money sooner, thus pressure the devs to do it.
While I don't have a PS5, I think I prefer games to be released on console first, thus they need to at least target their game to look and run good on console since it will be the first hardware where gamers can play their games. It will force them to make a more optimized game. Of course there are devs that can do good multiplatforms release, but it feels like nowadays it is more of the exception rather than the rule (again, mostly for games that using the latest tech in graphics, definitely those that use Unreal Engine 5).
Good to hear that progress on part 3 is still going well so far and I still hope it'll release a little sooner like sometime next year in 2026.
I start drooling uncontrollably when I think about the finale... it's gonna be berserk
Played the Steam version of Rebirth, and it is so amazing! Definitely the definitive edition for the game. I don't have the craziest of a rig. But my 3060ti is putting in work!
As for Part 3. For someone who bought a PS5 for FFXVI, sold it. Then, I bought another for Rebirth. I do hope PT3 is a multi plat release. I primarily play PC and prefer to not to have to buy new hardware for games. Even though I will for Final Fantasy
I know Square have some sort of contract obligation to have some exclusivity for the trilogy. But it's just not worth it for the consumers or the devs. I'd prefer if FFVII Remake Part 3 was able to be in the hands of all platform users including Xbox & Switch 2!
Part 3 most likely I imagine will be a Playstation exclusive (which will suck a bit but I think it will be understandable) as this will be one of the last exclusives Square does going forward on any platform as it will be a holdover from the earlier days when they were still doing exclusives, so Square might let this one pass because its part of a trilogy and might let Sony hold onto this one last time really temporarily. It's possible they could just go multiplatform on release now but I kind of doubt it for Part 3. I think it makes sense at this point to just do an even shorter exclusivity window on PS5 for even less time than Rebirth here when it came to PC today, 11 months later. I imagine Part 3 will be exclusive this time for the 3 months but the PC version for Part 3 might be out in 4-6 months next time around (including the Xbox and Switch 2 ports). I don't know, just making this up, but I imagine that will be the timeline for Part 3's porting schedule, but that won't be until 2027 at this point for the 30th anniversary of OG FFVII. Then when PS6 comes out including the next Xbox (if there will be one in traditional form), maybe a trilogy remaster in some form to cleanup some in-game assets on Remake and Rebirth for example.
10:51 RIP Final Fantasy VII (1997-2027)
They will find a way to bring it back spinoffs etc
Don't you mean 1997-2003, as everything since BC sucks.
@@Ranben. Maybe. Haven't played BC. But I can agree the compilation was the downfall.
@@tabbofii BC gave us Kalm retconned as another Nibelheim "destroyed/rebuilt fake town" which ruins the grey morality in the OG of Kalm benefiting from Shinra and liking them, as now they are not a neutral population with a valuable perspective but instead "employees as replacement civvilians" so an untrustworthy source. The pre-Barret AVALANCHE being either puppets of Rufus against his father or puppets of a second-rate Hojo wannabe really tarnish the organisation's competence and ideology, seemingly for the intention of raising up the Turks who instead of the mafia/Gestapo they are in the OG get treated as cutesy Men in Black pretty marketable assassins. Yuffie begins her slide down character-wise from the vengeful out-of-control teenager she was in the OG to being the likeable "genki girl"/little sister we see in AC, DC, CC and the remake trilogy. And BC also has a Weapon showing up long before the OG team give the Black Materia to Sephiroth at the Northern Cave. If a Weapon is even mentioned in passing in the Turks reports from BC, then the actions of President Shinra, Rufus, Scarlet and Hojo in the OG must be impacted.
The one good thing in BC was seeing Elfe as a female leader of AVALANCHE who can stand up to Sephiroth. She had a pretty character design and aesthetic. But that gets undermined because of course there can't be a female strong character in the league of the SOLDIERS, the shonen self-inserts for the Japanese male audience, it has to be a piece of materia implanted in her that is the root of her strength, and of course that strength has to shown as a negative (i.e. it is slowly killing her) to reinforce Japanese gender roles.
That's just BC. It gets so much worse in AC, DC and CC.
23:01 Deep Birdman cut. Next you gonna tell me you fly in any weather
Nomura is the creative director so he would have control and influence over the project. Story writers would be under him.
We need another movie or give us a serious after thr game concludes. Maybe not live.
So it took Nomura 10 months to work this all out. No way it’s the same as og then and hopefully ac and dirge aren’t the future and remake was a sequel to them all along😊
Up to what part does the rebirth end? After the forgotten city? After you get the highwind? after aeris’ death?
yes after aeriths death and u fight sephiroth. then the final cutscene does show you leaving on the highwind but you can’t control it
@ cheers mate
If they release the finale on consoles and pc at the same time $$$$$$ if not, then $.
I'm calling it now. PC version for part 3 will come 6 months after the PS release. Post your predictions down below.
I've played the original, but i haven't played Remake or Rebirth yet. Is it worth it?
I would say yes. The characters are very well written and performed and personally I really like the way they’re handling the story. The combat really shines too.
YESSS SIRRRR
I don't know if I am in the minority here, whenever I read anyone's comments regarding this it's usually about 50/50 maybe 40/60, BUT, I REEEEEEEALLY hope they made the switch to Unreal Engine 5! I LOVED Part 2, but it really was missing the technological advancements that UE5 could bring, and is running on a really old and highly customized version of UE4 from what I've read, HOW customized could be exaggerated, but I really think Part 3 would highly benefit from UE5, from the LOD's/texture pop-in, the LIGHTING(omg how many complaints about the overall saturated lighting I've read) to the PS2 looking assets sprinkled in the world, to the terrible looking ocean texture to the blurry performance mode, I mean so much can be improved upon with UE5. ESPECIALLY since they stated they were struggling with making the Highwind truly explorable and open-work, but with UE5's fast streaming and bandwidth improvements mixed with the PS5's super fast SSD and I/O throughput speeds, they could make it totally possible. Yea, people are gonna complain and say "WeLL, hOw MAnY Ue5 gAMeS hAVe teCHniCAL iSSuES?" but those games were built off of the earlier UE5 build, it's already at version 5.5 and has had MAJOR upgrades and improvements, and even if there are still issues, I'd rather the benefits of UE5 along with those issues, than the old UE4 quality along with IT'S own issues. Also, it's much easier and feasible to improve and upgrade any issues in the future than to change the base of the game, if it's on UE4, that version is no longer getting support from Epic, so the devs are on their own and we're stuck with that build of the game, but with UE5, we can get all the bells and whistles, and if there's issues those can be updated in the future since the build is built on UE5 as a base and there's support from Epic. If this game comes out earliest in 2027 if not more than likely 2028, it's gonna be running on like a 10-12 year old version of an old engine, and this game is really important and special to so many people I want them to really focus on an innovative and quality experience, even if it means waiting a few months longer, big deal if it doesn't release for the 30th anniversary, they can still show off the trailer during the 30th anniversary to make it just as special. Anyway, regardless of what they chose to do(cause at this point it's decided already based on what he said in the article) I just hope it's wonderful, and I don't mind waiting for quality whichever route they took...
And ALSO, even if they are using a customized engine, it doesn't mean they have to continue using that customized toolset if UE5 already comes with tools that address the same need/concern, as a matter of fact the tools in UE5 could be even more beneficial or efficient for the devs even if it means taking some time to learn them. My hope is they switch, give us an incredible finale, and then update part 1 and 2 to part 3's quality and re-release it as a trilogy package for PS, Xbox and PC for the rest of time.
Part 3 will probably be pc and ps5
It depends, mainly on how far on development the game is in. The team for part 3 has been working on it for X amount of years and the teams of remake and now rebirth are helping with development. And at the time they stated they'll try to go for a muti platform strategy, the contract with Sony Entertainment may still be in effect for the trilogy
Am I predicting the future? No, just based on the current situation
A lot of people either don’t understand (or don’t respect) the concept of PLAYER AGENCY. That’s why they can’t accept that Cloud’s relationship will be left ambiguous permanently and on purpose (as it should be) precisely because the developers want to respect everyone’s head cannon. Like you said, it’s not THE POINT of the story; to make it such is very reductive on the part of certain fans.
I used to have the same thoughts, but if you press the story a bit further it's actually quite apparent that player agency has no role in Cloud after he regains himself in disc 2. The choices you make as Cloud only truly exist insofar as Cloud isn't his true self. Once he is back to normal post-lifestream sequence it's evident from the remaining game as well as compilation material that Cloud and Tifa are the intended romantic pairing, with Aerith's place in the love triangle serving as narrative red herring, since her primary role was always to be the external heroine who saves the planet. She was created first for that reason in the storyboarding process. Tifa was created afterwards to serve as the heroine for the internal plot revolving around the party members - primarily Cloud. She's the reason he joined SOLDIER, regained himself in the lifestream, and post-game is willingly living with her Denzel and Marlene as a family.
Nojima has said that ambiguity will be reduced in the remake. And Hamaguchi saying that the game's content will do the talking couldn't be any more clear given that they have Cloud and Tifa just about to kiss in a main-story cutscene, then actually kissing in Gold Saucer. If it was about ambiguity and providing both sides fan-service then both heroines could've had. And this bonding between Cloud and Tifa is all taking place in part of the OG story where nothing really happens between the two, as next game is where their character relationship truly escalates based on the OG. There's no doubt that Aerith and Cloud develop a special bond but the story circumstances don't allow for it to actualize any deeper, by intention, since tragedy, grief, and dealing with loss were the primary themes Sakaguchi wanted to depict in FF7.
@ I hope you’re not discarding all the clues that the Remake trilogy is taking place post Advent Children from Sephiroth’s point of view
Oooo, that's actually kind of interesting. I was thinking Holy was exploring the lifestream to see if mankind was worth saving(there's a lot to this theory of mine but for times sake) I can see your theory though. Sephiroth at the edge of creation seemingly going over past events. Maybe even tying into the parts of himself he shed. Bro I can't wait for part 3!!!! I need to know!!
@@ocean_0602 Except you’re wrong, as Aerith literally calls Cloud her koibito in the novel set after her death, and also stated that there were many things she wanted to tell him, but she didn’t know what to say, or how.
Even after the main story Cloud and Tifa aren’t in a relationship. They sleep in separate rooms and beds, and never do or say anything romantic in any novel, AC, or Dirge. In fact Tifa herself proves they aren’t a couple, as she states that she doesn’t know what she and Cloud are to each other. They live together as a family of friends, sharing the load of their guilt and wounds, which is another thing said by her. Cloud, Tifa, Marlene, and Denzel all live together during AC, while Barret returns to living with them after AC. Shelke begins living with them after Dirge.
She takes advantage of a vulnerable Cloud, and tries to kiss him despite him not given her a reason to assume he’s romantically interested in him. They had a fight in Kalm, then make up in Junon only for her to spoil it by testing him. She had little or no reason to think he was interested. Also she was the only one trying to kiss, he was confused.
The gondola kiss was out of character, it’s what Zack would do. But it’s irrelevant because it’s optional, and not canon. But the CA date at the end is not optional, and it’s also canon.
The devs will never make either ship canon, they’ve proved that by having decades since the OG, and two full game’s to end the love triangle and haven’t. Instead they provided moments for them both, along with player choice.
@ocean_0602 yes Inquisitor, this is the Cloti fan right here
FF7 was not really on my radar until 2020 when Remake came out. I had seen Advent Children because it was another cool looking CGI movie along with Spirits Within, but didn’t really understand what was going on
Please someone MOD the game to have the "Zero Chadley Run". All the same stuff is still there, you just don't get the annoying notifications and tasks. For example, when fighting regional bosses - Mindflayer, Quetzcoatl, etc,. - let the player roam around the map and happen upon the boss's arena. When near the arena make the screen shake to warn the player of an incoming Big Bad. If you keep walking forward the shake becomes more violent (controller vibrates) and once you reach the Event Horizon you consent to engage in combat. THE END.
I can post some more Chadless ideas in your next video if need be.
Never underestimate the modding community ability to donthat kind of stuff, they did something like that in gow with atreas talking to much, im sure they can pull something like that off in ff7 rebirth
11:52 I freaking wish dude
part 3 will inevitably be called reunion. I can bet on it.
They have already confirmed that it won't be called reunion because they have already used that name for Crisis Core.
gonna be return
It will be return. Go through the OG script, and the Remake/Rebirth scripts and see how many times the word return is used.
I don’t agree with that. I felt a goos deal pf emotion with Sephiroth now as an adult with his polygonal hand gestures, slow walks, & movements. As a kid. I always saw him as this shadowy figure.
Happy endings with a sad side note are best for FF games. Look at FFIX and VIvi's death.
Look if Cloud kissing Tifa in that Gondola date isn’t going to convince you that they’re the defacto romantic couple… *NOTHING WILL.*
Unfortunately, free cam proved it to be a cheek kiss...
@@heri_gss give it a rest already.
@ I don't really care. Just clarified it in case you didn't know, and you clearly didn't since Yuffie has a cheek kiss, too.
@@heri_gss I saw the freecam. It’s not a cheek kiss if the lips are in contact with each other.
@@holitinne And they're not in contact. Tifa's lips are literally at full display, her head even turned away from Cloud.
Ah you also got a ff7 rebirth machine i dumped mine off to a friend after insulting it for not being worth it now that a pc port exists 😂
You might want to borrow it back for a couple of months once part 3 comes out? I imagine it will still be a slightly staggered launch, even if only a couple of months. (Might only be like 3 months tho 🤞)
@Kean_Bean i can wait til it comes out later. Especially if we're like two years out from it. What's a couple more months to play it on something i prefer and to not have to deal with the weird ps5 controller.
@ lol true, it isn’t so long and I think the wait will be much shorter next time.
@Kean_Bean yeah for sure especially since they have so much of the framework done for pt 3 now they just get to expand and refine. Def will be a hard wait if there is a long gap between sony release and other platforms. But i'd like to think square has had some chats with sony to make it less timegated.
@ Yeh that seemed to be narrower for Remake anyway. I think their internal policy shifted a little as well.
Sounds like execs just expected it to outsell Remake on PS5 alone for some reason. I think they are a bit more urgent to get it on other systems asap from now on.
i see CC has read some clerith tweets lately 😂😅 poor guy
The FYP on Twitter sneaks up on me sometimes 😂
don't have a ps5 and pc can't run it, lmao. I'll wait to play 2 and 3 together, I guess.
Exclusivities are not bad especially if they are timed
giving the fact that rebirths ending was disappointing, i dont have much faith for the 3th ending.