Well, that was a success for me! I've never really looked into the Tithe Applotment Books because the National Archives website doesn't have them for County Antrim. So I guess I just ignored them. But because of your video, I went looking for them and there are transcriptions on Family Search and images on PRONI. (this website has instructions on how to access www.irishgenealogynews.com/2019/11/northern-irelands-tithe-applotment.html ). Anyhoo, like you, my ancestor's father doesn't show up in Griffiths (not sure if he died or immigrated before then). But guess who shows up in the Tithe Applotments? Now I am fairly certain which townland he came from! Yay! Thank you so much!
Omg! That's amazing! I didn't realize that the National Archives website was missing certain counties so I'm glad you were able to access them elsewhere. I'm so happy this worked for you!
About 10minutes, 45 seconds, you cannot find a particular land lot on the nice map with red lines for boundaries. This map dates from the 1870s. You are reading the printed primary valuation. To compare the map and primary valuation, you need to look at the earliest valuation map. I know the early maps are not as easy to read, having faint black lines complicated by inkblots, rips etc. Alternatively when you look at the revision books (aka "cancelled" books) in the valuation office, try to compare the red line map with the revised books of the 1870s /80s. As land holdings amalgamated or subdivided, the valuator would amend the map and denominations. Usually only in small ways but sometimes quite radically. As emigration had a substantial effect on north Donegal, considerable amendment may have been made between 1840s/50s and 1870s/80s.
I’m stuck at Thomas Pettigrew (married Jane Henderson) from Northern Ireland,b 1816, county Tyrone, Oghaloo parish.. will definitely give this a go. I’m stuck
Question - my 3rd Great grandfather was born in Clifden... around 1839 or so. I am under the impression that Clifden was created as a town...sometime around 1838... so I am trying to figure out where to look in the Tithe Applotment for the name Toole... since Clifden may not have existed as a designation in the 1820s... any idea?
It depends on the religion and the location. In the Layde parish of County Antrim, they only go back to 1838 or so. In Rosrea parish, County Tipperary, they go back to 1810s. Other counties go back further. This is for Roman Catholic records.
@@maryfitzlove Is there any difference between protestant and catholic records?, if the unmarried woman had a child, only her name was noted, the fathers place was left blank, and the child was noted as a bastard in protestant records. This practice have made many genealogists unhappy.
Well, that was a success for me! I've never really looked into the Tithe Applotment Books because the National Archives website doesn't have them for County Antrim. So I guess I just ignored them. But because of your video, I went looking for them and there are transcriptions on Family Search and images on PRONI. (this website has instructions on how to access www.irishgenealogynews.com/2019/11/northern-irelands-tithe-applotment.html ). Anyhoo, like you, my ancestor's father doesn't show up in Griffiths (not sure if he died or immigrated before then). But guess who shows up in the Tithe Applotments? Now I am fairly certain which townland he came from! Yay! Thank you so much!
Omg! That's amazing! I didn't realize that the National Archives website was missing certain counties so I'm glad you were able to access them elsewhere. I'm so happy this worked for you!
Really terrific presentation! Thanks!
About 10minutes, 45 seconds, you cannot find a particular land lot on the nice map with red lines for boundaries. This map dates from the 1870s.
You are reading the printed primary valuation.
To compare the map and primary valuation, you need to look at the earliest valuation map. I know the early maps are not as easy to read, having faint black lines complicated by inkblots, rips etc.
Alternatively when you look at the revision books (aka "cancelled" books) in the valuation office, try to compare the red line map with the revised books of the 1870s /80s. As land holdings amalgamated or subdivided, the valuator would amend the map and denominations. Usually only in small ways but sometimes quite radically.
As emigration had a substantial effect on north Donegal, considerable amendment may have been made between 1840s/50s and 1870s/80s.
I’m stuck at Thomas Pettigrew (married Jane Henderson) from Northern Ireland,b 1816, county Tyrone, Oghaloo parish.. will definitely give this a go. I’m stuck
Question - my 3rd Great grandfather was born in Clifden... around 1839 or so. I am under the impression that Clifden was created as a town...sometime around 1838... so I am trying to figure out where to look in the Tithe Applotment for the name Toole... since Clifden may not have existed as a designation in the 1820s... any idea?
I like this well organized system that brings the data to life.
Thank you for watching!
I’m just now interested in finding land grants and ownership of my 2great grandfather John Chitwood.
what is the year of the oldest church records
That's a great question, I'm not sure!
It depends on the religion and the location. In the Layde parish of County Antrim, they only go back to 1838 or so. In Rosrea parish, County Tipperary, they go back to 1810s. Other counties go back further. This is for Roman Catholic records.
@@maryfitzlove Is there any difference between protestant and catholic records?, if the unmarried woman had a child, only her name was noted, the fathers place was left blank, and the child was noted as a bastard in protestant records. This practice have made many genealogists unhappy.