something about imagining one of the hypest fgc creators being so chill and just telling someone else "cool shirt" with the straightest face is just so fucking funny to me
My confidence against the Swiftmaster Match-Up before watching this video: extremely low My confidence against the Swiftmaster Match-Up after: somehow lower
Swiftmaster is the only character where I can know exactly what he is going to do and still lose. He has the best everything in the game bar health which isnt a downside if he doesnt make major mistakes. Absolutely needs toning down. Low health does not excuse a character for being broken because it relies on the player making mistakes rather then the character having a downside that you have to contantly work around.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Bruh Akuma was banned originally and every iteration of him has been heavily nerfed in comparison. Not only that nowadays Akuma has always had weaknesses besides just low health.
Best at everything? Pls, he is not even the best doing mixups. His passive is not even top 10, he is not the best breaking guard, for almost every area there is someone better than him in that area. He is good/decent in every area but not the best.
@@raymondcampusano2991 Dude he is at worst the second best Guard Break character in the game. His mixups are better then 90% of the cast due to the orb and privileged frame data/buttons. His passive isn't the best but like that doesn't really matter when his kit is 3x as loaded as nearly every other character.
Good mobility is a bigger edge in a game where most of the cast doesn't have it, and he is up there for sure. The only other characters that can compete with him there are Striker and Dragon Knight, maybe Kunoichi or frenzy-mode Berserker, and he leaves them all in the dust if he gets awakening.
I don’t know why some people can say swift master has bad mix when half of the cast’s high-low mix is pretty lackluster in comparison. Some characters have zero overheads or just rely more on hard-to-guard-cancel pressure, but I feel like both swift and berserker have access to both decent mixes (high/low and strike/throw) and strong pressure. Swift just doesn’t need to sacrifice his own health constantly for it.
Didn’t know he had an airtight Guard Crush blockstring until now. Yeah, no, fuck this character lol. It’s vanilla BB all over again with the top 3 but this character is a few tiers above the other top tier. I play Kunoichi and she basically feels like a budget Swift Master lol.
My friend plays Swift Master and destroys our whole friend group when I tell him that Swift the best character in the game he goes and rants about why he isn't that good of a character and it just gets annoying (especially since I play Inquisitor).
As launcher this MU is nearly impossible. Wind Twist invalidates 90% of her moveset, he can outzone her with Storm Strike and get much more damage than she does full screen, and the threat of 5B against her slow buttons makes him hard to challenge in neutral/roundstart. It also doesn't help that her health is only slightly above his so make one mistake and you're losing at least 40% from an unoptimized route.
You know this character is busted when the only counterplay is 1 gap in a blockstring, a character dependent 50/50 on round start or the player messing up. It's so crazy
For me the most broken things about swifty are his tap, his 5B and his speed. Seriously tap destroys fireballs, goes full screen, gives a hard knockdown, is plus on block and requires NO MANA? Wtf. The only way they could balance him in his current form would be to give him 350-500 health so that even glancing blows can delete him.
I knew I wanted to play Swift Master as soon as he was announced. Love his character design and who doesn't want to play an air bender? That being said I'm dog water at this game and can't do combos for shit xD
HA "Blown away" that's actually clever. But other than that yeah I agree and the other 2 I can think of thats almost top tier next him is Hitman and Crusader.
If wind orb is the spinning tornadoes, wall does not beat that. Every wall takes 2 of the tornadoes away, but he gets to move forwards for free. You have to spend 100 meter AND they just have to sit at fullscreen just to cancel the install. Additionally, crusader’s only low is 18 frames, and his 5A is 10 frames. He can’t really preempt swiftmaster to stop him from getting in at mid range. Dash up 5B is just a jumpscare that will counterhit you for free. You could try whiffing moves from farther, but SM also has plenty of tools to whiff punish you for that. The only reason crusader does well-ish into the MU is because you have some tools that work well on read, and you can 2 touch SM real easily. 5MS beating projectiles and 4S beating physical hits and both taking like 30+% is really good, if you’re in the other guy’s head and can make the read without dying. That combined with high damage means you get really good reward off of their mistakes and your good reads, but that’s about it.
I main ranger and if you dont catch swift master as soon as he starts up the tornadoes with stand 1, then none of rangers moves can hit swift master. Additionally like a lot of charactersn ca run straight under the stand 1 gunshots which usually means I get hit with a big combo. Swift masters m' range on his normal is crazy too. Especially swift masters crouching 1
I really like Swiftmaster a lot probably my fifth favorite in the game but that character is the definition of unfair. Really great neutral, really great damage and his awakening makes him faster which makes him even more greater. I love playing him but hate playing against him and if this keeps up you can bet that the next tournament will have plenty Swfitmasters in top 8 which will be MORE of a problem.
I really hate how none of swiftmasters strenghts have weaknesses. Great buttons and high combo damage? that must mean it's awkward to get a combo off of them in a certain situation but it isn't. Again great combo damage from everything? Surely he must be super mana hungry? Again no, he has some of the best filler moves in the game.
Playing Grappler vs Swift Master feels like a penalty, definitely at least 8-2 matchup. His 5B 2B string in combination with his movement speed makes him zoom in neutral and completely win neutral game. Impossible to armor fast enough and he can always pull up just with 2B which is prone to move him further which makes [M] and [M]~6 miss completely allowing him to punish you for the whiff. Yeah i'm gonna go now and lab out the best conversion options for Grappler, nice video!
I was already probably not gonna play this game, it's just not for me personally, but when I first saw go1 stream wiftboy I knew for sure I was out lmao. It's fun to watch tho, mostly.
as a swift master main yeah can confirm character is absolutely nutty. the only other characters that come to mind that have a decent matchup are striker and berserker (imo) and even then you can very easily deal with both of them. if they nerf his damage and ability to link anywhere on screen then i’m sure he won’t be nearly as busted but still very strong
They seriously need to tone down his 5B. Its the best normal in the game, basically a 5A with almost Vanguard range or better with a micro dash. Catches rolls with 0 effort and mid screen-ish gives you a free blockstrings to crank up the guard bar.
It's interesting. Roll'd Striker for my DNF endeavours. 3 sessions to Diamond IV. Hardest matchup? Vanguard. I can see where SM would be a problem for many characters. Though, not once have I thought: "Oh no, a Swift'mun!". The HP really is enough for me to not be bothered by the blatant strengths. Slow or rapid rounds. I really enjoy fighting everyone.
Jumping can let you punish wind twist > roll more reliably but I don't find doing it after backdash particularly hard either. Roundstart, moves that low profile or become active are similarly good at dealing with 5B as opposed to taking the risk with 2 on roundstart (though I guess you could also do 2>4 to cover 5B and 5S assuming no delays? idk).
Need to increase his mana cost on skills or decrease his regen. He can do so many combo hits that keep buying him time to regen mana in between specials the damn things never end lol. If he had to end combos sooner because he taps out of mana then it would give people more chances to take their turn back.
I've been saying to everyone complaining about Striker Guard Break pressure that she's not the only character who can do it. I wasn't even aware of Swiftmaster. I've already seen Dragon Knight do it. It's just a matter of time in the lab before someone makes most of the cast do it.
Pretty sure Berserker can do it too during Frenzy and with Conversion. If his isn’t air tight then at the least it’s hard to contest due to his huge Frenzy buttons.
He needs to set you up first, while he is doing it your MP is recovering so by the time I start doing that set up you can guard cancel before it finishes, that is just to force you use your bar, but it is really difficult for him to break your guard, unlike Striker. If you have 30% MP against her, you wont be able to reach 100% before she breaks your guard and gives you a TOD
His passive along with Dragon Knight, Lost Warrior and Hitman stand out the most to me. +50% movement speed applies to his confirm range, his survivability and his overall neutral game. You can't kill what you can't hit, but he's able to pull up on you from full screen.
]Y[ is the most eSports move in the game I hate it. It feels like it goes against his design too because the fast character should use their movement and fast buttons to play around the other character (which he can also do) but that move is just a fullscreen threat and even if they're ready for it it doesn't matter. Give it enough recovery so if you roll it or somehow jump it you can actually get a punish and if you block it like, point blank maybe you even get a punish. As the fast character there's no good reason they should accidentally be using it there anyways lol The crazy thing is even if you did that it'd still be a super strong tool. Pipe dream is they drag the hitbox down so it usually loses to jumps too.
I’ve been playing dnf since it came out and I played swift master 1 time and got a perfect at diamond rank btw always thought this character was ss glad to see someone agreeing with me
Yeah, Swift Master's my 2nd favorite character to play (after my main, Dragon Knight), but I'm still totally in agreememt that he's too good and needs nerfs. His overall toolset just overwhelms most of the cast. That said, Hitman still needs to lose that safe DP, too. :P
We need to talk about Swift Master. Everytime I see videos of him, he's ridiculous. Good video. Hope I see more people using these techniques, but I still think he needs to get some adjustments (not really nerfs, just bring his gameplan in line with other characters. Maybe some more pushback on hit and block? Playing with the spacing would fit his character while letting people play? Maybe adjust mp consumption?)
I feel like berserker does pretty well against him too. Berserkers 5B will beat swiftmasters main roundstart options, although won't lead to a combo really, but can set up frenzy. And the blood twister is excellent at catching swift trying to set up swords or running in.
DNF is a mess right now with balance. Swiftmaster has way too much and his skills don't cost anything. Striker is braindead and built around guard break. Hitman is unpunishable for most of the cast, awakening is so broken he shoots up to SSS tier. Crusader has more health than he knows what to do with. Ghostblade is a visual clutter nightmare. Inquisitor is just unfun to sit in wheel in. Vanguard is boring Grappler is just RPS. LW is only good if your opponent doesn't know the MU and the game doesn't register orb half the time. And...... Launcher is trash. Legitimately the worse character in the game once you understand matchup.
Does Hitman have any bad matchups? His awakening def helps late game but Im having major problems against Ranger. The angles on Hitmans normals and startup of mana abilities get me countered/crumpled a ton. Im at Terranite rank and its a struggle. Just curious.
Swift master is so fucking cool, character design, animations, and playstyle are perfect. Honestly even as a SM main i can't wait for him to get nerfed, he'll be a lot more fun when he's more interactive and in line with rest of cast
Honestly I think two(three technically, but two are the same)would probably bring him more in line with the rest of the cast. 1/2. Wind Orb and Twist either take longer to begin MP Regen or pause it outright while out. He already skips neutral with these buttons, why should he be able to circumvent the MP system too? This might also need to apply to characters like Crusader/Inquisitor but they aren't nearly as much of problems so 3. ]S[ isn't + on block. If they make it 0, less pushback. Otherwise make it -. I don't want it to be like...-12 but something reasonable because it IS 100 frame charge. That's not SUPER fast
I'm playing Dragon Knight who i will acknowledge is a very strong character, i still havent beaten a Swift Master online lmao. Genuinely dont get how you can lose as Swift Master unless in a mirror match
I honestly don’t know what they were thinking by not allowing air jump when moves like Vanguard 5B exist (it covers a huge amount of horizontal and vertical range). Hopefully they add the option to air block in a future patch some day.
@@RX7jkr that means play grounded dude 😐. That button is anti jump what's wrong with playing grounded neutral? Most of his tools is supposed to prevent you from jumping. If you could air block or whatever most of the cast becomes irrelevant.
@@amare7430 you are dumb if you think there is no footies in this game. use your tools. whiff punish, Roll, Guard cancel, Conversion i play characters who are not that super good in this game or are really hard to use Diaphone uses Enchantress I use her and Berserker. i can whiff punish and play footies against the cast and i do great. what is your excuse? lol I can name so many strong players who can do footies in here and not complain about not being able to block shit in the air. just stop.
Feels like the wind punch could be played around better if there was a visual indication when it’s charged, and maybe a maximum amount of time that charge can be held. Other than that, I’d prefer all the other characters be buffed up in a way to address him, rather than him getting hit hard by the nerf bat. I kind of like this modern-kusoge style of game, lol.
Guard break needs nerfed. If you get guardbreaked you can stiil block or do whatever but all moves do chip damage and moves that did chip get extra chip. As soon as someone guardbreaks a timer appears for when guardbreak state ends. If you hit with a move other than guard cancel guardbreak state ends and guardbreak gauge gets back to full
``if you hit with a move other than guard cancel guardbreak state ends and guardbreak gauge gets back to full`` refers to the one who got guardbreaked not the one who did the.guardbreaking
As a Crusader main, I think Swift Master is very strong, but also kinda predictable. He's probably among the best competitive picks (I still think Berserker is the best), but he's got sweaty combos, very easy to drop and punish. One wrong move and he's facing an easy 50% dmg combo, so while he can kill you in two complex touches, he can die in two simpler counters.
@@Tonm077 Holy Nova for pokes/starter, into wall. Wall combos are pretty basic even 5S->wall combos into itself a couple times. 2S if you want to put up shield, JM->wall->2M->5M->wall->2S is also good, pretty mana efficient too. Some of the basic tutorial combos work really well, too. Just don't poke with 5S much and don't use 5MS on block, because they're super punishable.
I wish Kunoichi had more to work with and wasn't so predictable. I just dont see her being meta ever because of how slow she is and how little damage she can deal.
Definitely think swift master is the best character in the game. But I think hitman is the least fun/most frustrating to play against, swiftmaster is ridiculously annoying tho and his combo pickups and dmg is really stupid
i do agree swiftmaster is really strong but a lot of characters are strong in this game. Swiftmaster loses to a lot of thing on round start. I need to test it more but I know berserker can 2B round start and that will not just hit swift but you low profile swift 5B. I think I tried 5S(5C or whatever) when berserker does 2B and I think I remember getting hit. Need to start testing those round start options but this game is 100% a MU game similar to ggst. some characters are godly always and some you need to change your pick or the MU is bad. I can say the one thing I think needs to be changed on swift is his charge punching leading to a combo when fullscreen. maybe they should change that or make it so you can only combo with wind orb and not 5MP too so it forces a large amount of meter to combo. Great vid though, wish I was still in SoFlo so I could compete >_
Berserker 2B is a super risky roundstart, the move is quite slow with a bunch of recovery. There are plenty of roundstart options that swift master has that punish it. Just because you can't just auto pilot 5B roundstart doesn't make the match up bad lol, and the fact that berserkr has to commit to a riskier option like 2B just to beat your 5B actually says a lot.
@@alexanderdenison2950 umm dude I never said berserker was a bad match up for swift. The topic changed to just bad match ups are a thing in this game 🤦🏻♂️ all round starts are risky if they miss. The reason why swift is so good at the start is because of how many options he has at round start which you have to guess from the different options to beat it. That randomness is why ppl try to avoid the fight together. This is nothing new in fg’s though, there is always one or more characters that are godly on round start. If you are talking frame data at round start assuming both react swift 5C is 16 frames so the same as berserker 2b. As a swift main(before he was even announced I wanted him in the game) I actually just jump back from berserker since I rather be safe than risk a bad choice even if I have a better chance to win most options.
Didn't know you could run jump over double tornado. May not be super game changing but the swiftmaster matchup doesn't seem as dire near the corner anymore
I think the swift master can also slight delay the double tornado to catch roll/jump in, but not sure In the end when the SM know you will try roll/jumping he can end the blockstring with other move that beat the jump lol, but I guess making them do the rps is better than sitting on the corner untill guard break
As soon as I started seeing full screen conversions into 80% damage combo's I knew hits character was just silly. The whole game, in fact, is kinda silly. Was dissapointed at first this wasn't at evo but after having it for awhile I'm not sure it's really a competetive type of game tbh... Not without some major changes anyways. Hitman 2 touching you off a DP is not ok, for example.
I absolutely despise the people that pick broken characters on purpose. It’s one thing if you just really like the design, it’s another if you want easy wins. That’s just gross to me. It means you don’t value an even playing field or the spirit of competition. You just want to dominate people while also putting in a lower amount of effort. Yuck.
Im only about G1-G2 so im not too sure how much my word means here, but Swiftmaster is one of those characters that I just straight up dont like. I dont like how he looks or how he plays, I have no interest in learning him, I hate fighting him with every character I use (Inquisitor, Berserker, and Ghostblade are my main 3) and while his combos may be tricky to execute, they're some of the most boring combos to sit through and watch. It could be because of the rank I play in and people doing the same combos and pressure strings over and over, but in my experience Swiftmaster just isnt fun to play against. Im still hitting that rematch button tho
I just subscribed cuz im a hitman main as well and id love it if u did videos on how to counter other characters like launcher or troubleshooter. I have such a hard time getting close to them thanks to their long range attacks
The guard break combo doesn't work with full gauge... I tested it. And then I tested it with 99 % gauge and then it worked. The thing is that you can't see the different on the gauge itself so it looks like it's full but I guess it is not. Try it yourself I could not do it with full gauge and I set the dummy to instantly dp when there is a gap.
Yea you can dash through the double tornado, but there's also the fact it hits twice and goes into full combo. Ntm even on block he can get in and attack before you do anything. This character is so broke and cheap. Good look on the video tho. Gotta work on beating this character.
I agree Swift Master is very very good; however, I do not want the character to get nerfed substantially. I wouldn't mind minor tweaks, but I would mainly prefer to see buffs to others so every character still feels incredibly powerful. If we start nerfing characters substantially it will just ruin the identity of the game. I want every character to be doing 40-50% off of a stray hit if you have the presence of mind and execution. Recommended nerfs to SM: 5b: 9f->10f awakening active at 20% rather than 30% increase wind orb MP cost by 10 reduce neutral MS MP cost by 10 DP shouldn't have suction effect Charge punch should be 0 on block Increase Wind Twist initial MP cost, but reduce the cost of Vortex Hurricane to compensate. Nothing too crazy here other than the awakening (which would never happen, since it's a universal mechanic), but I think these changes would make SM more on par with the rest of the cast if some others get buffs.
I've been enjoying swift master since the game has launched, but I agree that he needs to be toned down. At least so that he's not just great at everything.
Somehow I beat majority of swiftmasters online and it boils down to they ALL do the exact same shit xD. Like no jk fishing for the exact same 2 combo sequences so every round starts with them getting DPed immediately, then I bait their wakeup dp which they always do 95% of the time leading to a full combo and due to swifts very low health they are practically dead at this point so they get scared and either use the wind orb to try and suck you in, use their charged S if you are full screen, or lastly if you are medium to close range its either that dumb ass dash punch which gets dped to death or they do that double reppuken bs which as you said you just dash jump over ggez. Now im not saying the character is bad not even close, but the way a lot of ppl play him online is bad with the exception of Diety players who actually mix things up.
Game is bleeding players due to poor balance and bugs. Don't wait till the scene is dead to patch. Fighting games almost all have this problem and it's worse the more niche the game is.
Grappler is way too high. As a grappler main, he’s B tier at best. I went to hit an as a pocket character and I just run over everybody. Grapplers kit just doesn’t work and needs re-tooling
He does not have good mix on blockstring but the people are also saying on oki he has every option imaginable that a character wants Left/right , high/low vice versa. Thoughts ?
Ss imo and the only one but for me as a DK if I hit him he still can take a mix and die and if I am in awakening he dies off anything but its still hard tho
cool shirt
Be a detective jm
something about imagining one of the hypest fgc creators being so chill and just telling someone else "cool shirt" with the straightest face is just so fucking funny to me
"the mountain you can't climb, the river you can't cross" LMAO I love it
My confidence against the Swiftmaster Match-Up before watching this video: extremely low
My confidence against the Swiftmaster Match-Up after: somehow lower
Swiftmaster is the only character where I can know exactly what he is going to do and still lose. He has the best everything in the game bar health which isnt a downside if he doesnt make major mistakes. Absolutely needs toning down. Low health does not excuse a character for being broken because it relies on the player making mistakes rather then the character having a downside that you have to contantly work around.
Works for Akuma, works for swiftmaster
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Bruh Akuma was banned originally and every iteration of him has been heavily nerfed in comparison. Not only that nowadays Akuma has always had weaknesses besides just low health.
Best at everything? Pls, he is not even the best doing mixups. His passive is not even top 10, he is not the best breaking guard, for almost every area there is someone better than him in that area. He is good/decent in every area but not the best.
@@raymondcampusano2991 Dude he is at worst the second best Guard Break character in the game. His mixups are better then 90% of the cast due to the orb and privileged frame data/buttons. His passive isn't the best but like that doesn't really matter when his kit is 3x as loaded as nearly every other character.
Inquisitor has the lowest health lol
I think one of his obvious but understated neutral tools that you left out is that he is FAST and when he is in awakening he gets FASTER
Seriously 😩😩 as an Inquisitor, he really is God 😭
Good mobility is a bigger edge in a game where most of the cast doesn't have it, and he is up there for sure. The only other characters that can compete with him there are Striker and Dragon Knight, maybe Kunoichi or frenzy-mode Berserker, and he leaves them all in the dust if he gets awakening.
yeah in awakening he can run fullscreen and seemingly 5b bersereker gorecross on reaction
@@Zevox87 hitman gives swift a hard time too but i feel like between the two its knowledge check
I don’t know why some people can say swift master has bad mix when half of the cast’s high-low mix is pretty lackluster in comparison. Some characters have zero overheads or just rely more on hard-to-guard-cancel pressure, but I feel like both swift and berserker have access to both decent mixes (high/low and strike/throw) and strong pressure. Swift just doesn’t need to sacrifice his own health constantly for it.
swift high-low mix definitely is not on the level of berserker's.
Ranger players wondering why a rat and the big boy have better full screen presence than them
Didn’t know he had an airtight Guard Crush blockstring until now. Yeah, no, fuck this character lol.
It’s vanilla BB all over again with the top 3 but this character is a few tiers above the other top tier. I play Kunoichi and she basically feels like a budget Swift Master lol.
My friend plays Swift Master and destroys our whole friend group when I tell him that Swift the best character in the game he goes and rants about why he isn't that good of a character and it just gets annoying (especially since I play Inquisitor).
Question: does he still rant about SM? At this point, he has no right.
Swift master is like taking Taeger’s magnets and sticking them on Taokaka. You can not run, only pray.
As launcher this MU is nearly impossible. Wind Twist invalidates 90% of her moveset, he can outzone her with Storm Strike and get much more damage than she does full screen, and the threat of 5B against her slow buttons makes him hard to challenge in neutral/roundstart. It also doesn't help that her health is only slightly above his so make one mistake and you're losing at least 40% from an unoptimized route.
You know this character is busted when the only counterplay is 1 gap in a blockstring, a character dependent 50/50 on round start or the player messing up. It's so crazy
For me the most broken things about swifty are his tap, his 5B and his speed. Seriously tap destroys fireballs, goes full screen, gives a hard knockdown, is plus on block and requires NO MANA? Wtf. The only way they could balance him in his current form would be to give him 350-500 health so that even glancing blows can delete him.
I knew I wanted to play Swift Master as soon as he was announced. Love his character design and who doesn't want to play an air bender?
That being said I'm dog water at this game and can't do combos for shit xD
relatable comment lmao
It's ok, you're playing swift master. Go from dog water to luke warm water and you'll still mollywhop people 🤣
Diaphone out here solving problems instead of malding hard. Good video
until today I hadn’t played against a good swift master since I bought the game. I’m blown away by how absurd the character is
HA "Blown away" that's actually clever. But other than that yeah I agree and the other 2 I can think of thats almost top tier next him is Hitman and Crusader.
If wind orb is the spinning tornadoes, wall does not beat that. Every wall takes 2 of the tornadoes away, but he gets to move forwards for free. You have to spend 100 meter AND they just have to sit at fullscreen just to cancel the install.
Additionally, crusader’s only low is 18 frames, and his 5A is 10 frames. He can’t really preempt swiftmaster to stop him from getting in at mid range. Dash up 5B is just a jumpscare that will counterhit you for free. You could try whiffing moves from farther, but SM also has plenty of tools to whiff punish you for that.
The only reason crusader does well-ish into the MU is because you have some tools that work well on read, and you can 2 touch SM real easily. 5MS beating projectiles and 4S beating physical hits and both taking like 30+% is really good, if you’re in the other guy’s head and can make the read without dying. That combined with high damage means you get really good reward off of their mistakes and your good reads, but that’s about it.
I main ranger and if you dont catch swift master as soon as he starts up the tornadoes with stand 1, then none of rangers moves can hit swift master. Additionally like a lot of charactersn ca run straight under the stand 1 gunshots which usually means I get hit with a big combo. Swift masters m' range on his normal is crazy too. Especially swift masters crouching 1
I really like Swiftmaster a lot probably my fifth favorite in the game but that character is the definition of unfair. Really great neutral, really great damage and his awakening makes him faster which makes him even more greater.
I love playing him but hate playing against him and if this keeps up you can bet that the next tournament will have plenty Swfitmasters in top 8 which will be MORE of a problem.
Looks like you were wrong about tournaments
"Nah, that's not going in the video!"
Leaves it in on purpose. LOL
SM is 100% in his own tier
Still, saying he is SSS id BSSS
I really hate how none of swiftmasters strenghts have weaknesses. Great buttons and high combo damage? that must mean it's awkward to get a combo off of them in a certain situation but it isn't. Again great combo damage from everything? Surely he must be super mana hungry? Again no, he has some of the best filler moves in the game.
Playing Grappler vs Swift Master feels like a penalty, definitely at least 8-2 matchup. His 5B 2B string in combination with his movement speed makes him zoom in neutral and completely win neutral game. Impossible to armor fast enough and he can always pull up just with 2B which is prone to move him further which makes [M] and [M]~6 miss completely allowing him to punish you for the whiff. Yeah i'm gonna go now and lab out the best conversion options for Grappler, nice video!
Ranger and swift feels llike some of grapplers worst matchups
I was already probably not gonna play this game, it's just not for me personally, but when I first saw go1 stream wiftboy I knew for sure I was out lmao. It's fun to watch tho, mostly.
as a swift master main yeah can confirm character is absolutely nutty. the only other characters that come to mind that have a decent matchup are striker and berserker (imo) and even then you can very easily deal with both of them. if they nerf his damage and ability to link anywhere on screen then i’m sure he won’t be nearly as busted but still very strong
They seriously need to tone down his 5B. Its the best normal in the game, basically a 5A with almost Vanguard range or better with a micro dash.
Catches rolls with 0 effort and mid screen-ish gives you a free blockstrings to crank up the guard bar.
Dont listen the wall being a counter. Swords eats the wall in neutral even on reaction.
It's interesting.
Roll'd Striker for my DNF endeavours.
3 sessions to Diamond IV.
Hardest matchup?
Vanguard.
I can see where SM would be a problem for many characters. Though, not once have I thought: "Oh no, a Swift'mun!".
The HP really is enough for me to not be bothered by the blatant strengths.
Slow or rapid rounds. I really enjoy fighting everyone.
Jumping can let you punish wind twist > roll more reliably but I don't find doing it after backdash particularly hard either. Roundstart, moves that low profile or become active are similarly good at dealing with 5B as opposed to taking the risk with 2 on roundstart (though I guess you could also do 2>4 to cover 5B and 5S assuming no delays? idk).
Diaphone chat trying to set man up for failure lmao
woah nice video, id love to hear your thoughts on other character strengths/ weaknesses too
looove your videos so much brother i learn alot from you! definetly got that noti bell on for sure!! keep on being awsome
just use your counter on reaction from full screen to beat the wind punch. Yours truly, a grappler main
Need to increase his mana cost on skills or decrease his regen. He can do so many combo hits that keep buying him time to regen mana in between specials the damn things never end lol. If he had to end combos sooner because he taps out of mana then it would give people more chances to take their turn back.
I've been saying to everyone complaining about Striker Guard Break pressure that she's not the only character who can do it. I wasn't even aware of Swiftmaster. I've already seen Dragon Knight do it. It's just a matter of time in the lab before someone makes most of the cast do it.
Pretty sure Berserker can do it too during Frenzy and with Conversion. If his isn’t air tight then at the least it’s hard to contest due to his huge Frenzy buttons.
Afaik DK route is very limited compared to striker for the true guard break blockstring where striker can start the sequence from any kind of hit
@@m1rasantika DK can get a tod off of it though
An Awakened Inquisitor can also do it if she gets you locked down in the corner, and that's not a hard thing for her to do.
He needs to set you up first, while he is doing it your MP is recovering so by the time I start doing that set up you can guard cancel before it finishes, that is just to force you use your bar, but it is really difficult for him to break your guard, unlike Striker. If you have 30% MP against her, you wont be able to reach 100% before she breaks your guard and gives you a TOD
His passive along with Dragon Knight, Lost Warrior and Hitman stand out the most to me. +50% movement speed applies to his confirm range, his survivability and his overall neutral game. You can't kill what you can't hit, but he's able to pull up on you from full screen.
]Y[ is the most eSports move in the game I hate it. It feels like it goes against his design too because the fast character should use their movement and fast buttons to play around the other character (which he can also do) but that move is just a fullscreen threat and even if they're ready for it it doesn't matter. Give it enough recovery so if you roll it or somehow jump it you can actually get a punish and if you block it like, point blank maybe you even get a punish. As the fast character there's no good reason they should accidentally be using it there anyways lol The crazy thing is even if you did that it'd still be a super strong tool. Pipe dream is they drag the hitbox down so it usually loses to jumps too.
I’ve been playing dnf since it came out and I played swift master 1 time and got a perfect at diamond rank btw always thought this character was ss glad to see someone agreeing with me
Yeah, Swift Master's my 2nd favorite character to play (after my main, Dragon Knight), but I'm still totally in agreememt that he's too good and needs nerfs. His overall toolset just overwhelms most of the cast.
That said, Hitman still needs to lose that safe DP, too. :P
As a spectator I hate Swift Master because he fills the screen with visual clutter.
We need to talk about Swift Master.
Everytime I see videos of him, he's ridiculous.
Good video. Hope I see more people using these techniques, but I still think he needs to get some adjustments (not really nerfs, just bring his gameplan in line with other characters. Maybe some more pushback on hit and block? Playing with the spacing would fit his character while letting people play? Maybe adjust mp consumption?)
My thing with him is like why does the speed character fucking two touch you
because they thought it would be okay if he had 850 hp. they were wrong
I feel like berserker does pretty well against him too.
Berserkers 5B will beat swiftmasters main roundstart options, although won't lead to a combo really, but can set up frenzy.
And the blood twister is excellent at catching swift trying to set up swords or running in.
Swift mAster literally lockdown the entire screen and that’s the match after that. The most broken character in game
Weaknesses and Swiftmaster only works if the sentence says "Swiftmaster has no weaknesses"
DNF is a mess right now with balance.
Swiftmaster has way too much and his skills don't cost anything.
Striker is braindead and built around guard break.
Hitman is unpunishable for most of the cast, awakening is so broken he shoots up to SSS tier.
Crusader has more health than he knows what to do with.
Ghostblade is a visual clutter nightmare.
Inquisitor is just unfun to sit in wheel in.
Vanguard is boring
Grappler is just RPS.
LW is only good if your opponent doesn't know the MU and the game doesn't register orb half the time.
And......
Launcher is trash. Legitimately the worse character in the game once you understand matchup.
Vanguard isn't boring 😥
@@FrozenFacade it's fun till you get bored of RPS
@@xXcheapdeathXx It's the shoto of the game.
What about Ranger, Troubleshootet, Dragon Knight, Berserker and Enchantress?
@@nowaylater6950 whataboutism
Does Hitman have any bad matchups? His awakening def helps late game but Im having major problems against Ranger. The angles on Hitmans normals and startup of mana abilities get me countered/crumpled a ton. Im at Terranite rank and its a struggle.
Just curious.
I believe hitman cant get in against zoners easily
Swift master obviously lol
Props for calling them "spiral swords"
Long live mvc2!
Swift master is so fucking cool, character design, animations, and playstyle are perfect. Honestly even as a SM main i can't wait for him to get nerfed, he'll be a lot more fun when he's more interactive and in line with rest of cast
great sweetspot with the editing once again
hit man and swift need nerfs but swift needs it more. actually feels unplayable some times when you play against him, super lame.
Honestly I think two(three technically, but two are the same)would probably bring him more in line with the rest of the cast.
1/2. Wind Orb and Twist either take longer to begin MP Regen or pause it outright while out. He already skips neutral with these buttons, why should he be able to circumvent the MP system too? This might also need to apply to characters like Crusader/Inquisitor but they aren't nearly as much of problems so
3. ]S[ isn't + on block. If they make it 0, less pushback. Otherwise make it -. I don't want it to be like...-12 but something reasonable because it IS 100 frame charge. That's not SUPER fast
I'm playing Dragon Knight who i will acknowledge is a very strong character, i still havent beaten a Swift Master online lmao. Genuinely dont get how you can lose as Swift Master unless in a mirror match
My biggest issue with the game is lack of jumping viability…so many moves remove that completely like trouble shooter
I honestly don’t know what they were thinking by not allowing air jump when moves like Vanguard 5B exist (it covers a huge amount of horizontal and vertical range).
Hopefully they add the option to air block in a future patch some day.
@@RX7jkr that means play grounded dude 😐.
That button is anti jump what's wrong with playing grounded neutral? Most of his tools is supposed to prevent you from jumping.
If you could air block or whatever most of the cast becomes irrelevant.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 play grounded... and do what? your grounded movement is slow, and its not the game is designed for footsies
@@amare7430 you are dumb if you think there is no footies in this game. use your tools. whiff punish, Roll, Guard cancel, Conversion
i play characters who are not that super good in this game or are really hard to use Diaphone uses Enchantress I use her and Berserker. i can whiff punish and play footies against the cast and i do great.
what is your excuse? lol I can name so many strong players who can do footies in here and not complain about not being able to block shit in the air. just stop.
will they be doing balance changes to this game? I want to buy it but the balance seems not great.
Yea I’m sure they will
Still baffled that dustloop says 5B is 9f yet somehow my fastest move as troubleshooter (8f) loses roundstart, coz he fucking runs past my hitbox
Feels like the wind punch could be played around better if there was a visual indication when it’s charged, and maybe a maximum amount of time that charge can be held.
Other than that, I’d prefer all the other characters be buffed up in a way to address him, rather than him getting hit hard by the nerf bat. I kind of like this modern-kusoge style of game, lol.
Guard break needs nerfed. If you get guardbreaked you can stiil block or do whatever but all moves do chip damage and moves that did chip get extra chip. As soon as someone guardbreaks a timer appears for when guardbreak state ends. If you hit with a move other than guard cancel guardbreak state ends and guardbreak gauge gets back to full
``if you hit with a move other than guard cancel guardbreak state ends and guardbreak gauge gets back to full`` refers to the one who got guardbreaked not the one who did the.guardbreaking
are people talking about crusader in a similar way also?
Agreed with you and great vid
As a Crusader main, I think Swift Master is very strong, but also kinda predictable. He's probably among the best competitive picks (I still think Berserker is the best), but he's got sweaty combos, very easy to drop and punish. One wrong move and he's facing an easy 50% dmg combo, so while he can kill you in two complex touches, he can die in two simpler counters.
Any good crusader tips or combos also my main
Probably the best take here. Most of the cast are characters that can delete a healthbar off one mistake if you know how to use them.
@@Tonm077 Holy Nova for pokes/starter, into wall. Wall combos are pretty basic even 5S->wall combos into itself a couple times. 2S if you want to put up shield, JM->wall->2M->5M->wall->2S is also good, pretty mana efficient too. Some of the basic tutorial combos work really well, too.
Just don't poke with 5S much and don't use 5MS on block, because they're super punishable.
@@saterdei thanks bro
I wish Kunoichi had more to work with and wasn't so predictable. I just dont see her being meta ever because of how slow she is and how little damage she can deal.
You probably use the wrong combo? Lot of terranite kuno i fought can deal 40% DK hp+corner carry lol
Honestly I wished the lesser characters Launcher and Enchantress gets something to make them playable.
On his negative edge punch if you get a successful roll on it your plus
Definitely think swift master is the best character in the game. But I think hitman is the least fun/most frustrating to play against, swiftmaster is ridiculously annoying tho and his combo pickups and dmg is really stupid
And he doesn't spend meter
i do agree swiftmaster is really strong but a lot of characters are strong in this game. Swiftmaster loses to a lot of thing on round start. I need to test it more but I know berserker can 2B round start and that will not just hit swift but you low profile swift 5B. I think I tried 5S(5C or whatever) when berserker does 2B and I think I remember getting hit. Need to start testing those round start options but this game is 100% a MU game similar to ggst. some characters are godly always and some you need to change your pick or the MU is bad.
I can say the one thing I think needs to be changed on swift is his charge punching leading to a combo when fullscreen. maybe they should change that or make it so you can only combo with wind orb and not 5MP too so it forces a large amount of meter to combo.
Great vid though, wish I was still in SoFlo so I could compete >_
Berserker 2B is a super risky roundstart, the move is quite slow with a bunch of recovery. There are plenty of roundstart options that swift master has that punish it. Just because you can't just auto pilot 5B roundstart doesn't make the match up bad lol, and the fact that berserkr has to commit to a riskier option like 2B just to beat your 5B actually says a lot.
@@alexanderdenison2950 umm dude I never said berserker was a bad match up for swift. The topic changed to just bad match ups are a thing in this game 🤦🏻♂️ all round starts are risky if they miss. The reason why swift is so good at the start is because of how many options he has at round start which you have to guess from the different options to beat it. That randomness is why ppl try to avoid the fight together. This is nothing new in fg’s though, there is always one or more characters that are godly on round start.
If you are talking frame data at round start assuming both react swift 5C is 16 frames so the same as berserker 2b. As a swift main(before he was even announced I wanted him in the game) I actually just jump back from berserker since I rather be safe than risk a bad choice even if I have a better chance to win most options.
Didn't know you could run jump over double tornado. May not be super game changing but the swiftmaster matchup doesn't seem as dire near the corner anymore
I think the swift master can also slight delay the double tornado to catch roll/jump in, but not sure
In the end when the SM know you will try roll/jumping he can end the blockstring with other move that beat the jump lol, but I guess making them do the rps is better than sitting on the corner untill guard break
Each time I play against fartmaster I feel like I'm being violated.
A game with so many screen filling moves needs jump block.
He has movement speed in a game with subpar movement/buffer, so his advantages before getting in to frame data is already real.
As soon as I started seeing full screen conversions into 80% damage combo's I knew hits character was just silly. The whole game, in fact, is kinda silly.
Was dissapointed at first this wasn't at evo but after having it for awhile I'm not sure it's really a competetive type of game tbh... Not without some major changes anyways. Hitman 2 touching you off a DP is not ok, for example.
Wind orb pulling u from over half screen is bs
I played against a swift where I didn't leave the air
Legend has it that Otaku Leo is still somewhere dancing on air to Swift Masters attacks.
@@oOYourdadOo He turned me into a space launch program sent me to the moon
I absolutely despise the people that pick broken characters on purpose. It’s one thing if you just really like the design, it’s another if you want easy wins. That’s just gross to me. It means you don’t value an even playing field or the spirit of competition. You just want to dominate people while also putting in a lower amount of effort. Yuck.
this is hilarious, is this a copy+paste?
"Pick Swift Master for easy life." --Sun Tzu
Im only about G1-G2 so im not too sure how much my word means here, but Swiftmaster is one of those characters that I just straight up dont like. I dont like how he looks or how he plays, I have no interest in learning him, I hate fighting him with every character I use (Inquisitor, Berserker, and Ghostblade are my main 3) and while his combos may be tricky to execute, they're some of the most boring combos to sit through and watch. It could be because of the rank I play in and people doing the same combos and pressure strings over and over, but in my experience Swiftmaster just isnt fun to play against. Im still hitting that rematch button tho
I just subscribed cuz im a hitman main as well and id love it if u did videos on how to counter other characters like launcher or troubleshooter. I have such a hard time getting close to them thanks to their long range attacks
If they just nerf his 5b and other buttons while also nerfing double reppuken, I wouldn't even mind him.
The guard break combo doesn't work with full gauge... I tested it. And then I tested it with 99 % gauge and then it worked. The thing is that you can't see the different on the gauge itself so it looks like it's full but I guess it is not. Try it yourself I could not do it with full gauge and I set the dummy to instantly dp when there is a gap.
Maybe you didnt know this but not every character has the same amount of guard gauge.
@@Uooooooooooooh I really didn't know this! Thank you for telling me ☺️
Also his wind vacuum if u know it’s comin like ur catching patterns if u jump med kick he will kick himself in the teeth basically
Yea you can dash through the double tornado, but there's also the fact it hits twice and goes into full combo. Ntm even on block he can get in and attack before you do anything. This character is so broke and cheap. Good look on the video tho. Gotta work on beating this character.
I think Swiftmaster is really cool! And a bit overtuned.
10:47 lol
Swift master, Striker. My bane.
I'm a swift master but I have so much trouble with crusader 🤦🏾♂️
His wind punch is perryable
HE IS THE SWIFT MASTER WHAT DID YOU EXPECT
I agree Swift Master is very very good; however, I do not want the character to get nerfed substantially. I wouldn't mind minor tweaks, but I would mainly prefer to see buffs to others so every character still feels incredibly powerful. If we start nerfing characters substantially it will just ruin the identity of the game. I want every character to be doing 40-50% off of a stray hit if you have the presence of mind and execution.
Recommended nerfs to SM:
5b: 9f->10f
awakening active at 20% rather than 30%
increase wind orb MP cost by 10
reduce neutral MS MP cost by 10
DP shouldn't have suction effect
Charge punch should be 0 on block
Increase Wind Twist initial MP cost, but reduce the cost of Vortex Hurricane to compensate.
Nothing too crazy here other than the awakening (which would never happen, since it's a universal mechanic), but I think these changes would make SM more on par with the rest of the cast if some others get buffs.
I've been enjoying swift master since the game has launched, but I agree that he needs to be toned down. At least so that he's not just great at everything.
leave mah man alone, its HARD out here QnQ
the only character with actual movement lmao
Kuno and DK would like to have a word with you
@@Gamma0_0 Awakened Swiftmaster would like to know why hes being compared to such slow characters.
Swift master is op, but isnt hitman too,plus wayy too easy?
Hitman waaay easier for sure… but swift has high power level for sure
I love his design and how he plays, I hope he get readjusted and not nerfed to the ground though.
I find its always the people with 6+ rollback frames playing this character so i cant even see whats hitting me
Somehow I beat majority of swiftmasters online and it boils down to they ALL do the exact same shit xD. Like no jk fishing for the exact same 2 combo sequences so every round starts with them getting DPed immediately, then I bait their wakeup dp which they always do 95% of the time leading to a full combo and due to swifts very low health they are practically dead at this point so they get scared and either use the wind orb to try and suck you in, use their charged S if you are full screen, or lastly if you are medium to close range its either that dumb ass dash punch which gets dped to death or they do that double reppuken bs which as you said you just dash jump over ggez. Now im not saying the character is bad not even close, but the way a lot of ppl play him online is bad with the exception of Diety players who actually mix things up.
Hes strong but the game just came out, i would wait a little longer until the nerf.
Game is bleeding players due to poor balance and bugs. Don't wait till the scene is dead to patch. Fighting games almost all have this problem and it's worse the more niche the game is.
@@apertureb2247 exactly
Grappler is way too high. As a grappler main, he’s B tier at best. I went to hit an as a pocket character and I just run over everybody. Grapplers kit just doesn’t work and needs re-tooling
Lol I still don't get why Inquistor has the same health as him and she is wearing literal plate and chainmail...
He does not have good mix on blockstring but the people are also saying on oki he has every option imaginable that a character wants Left/right , high/low vice versa. Thoughts ?
I think swift master and crusader are tied for stupid neutral abilities
Ss imo and the only one but for me as a DK if I hit him he still can take a mix and die and if I am in awakening he dies off anything but its still hard tho
let me get a guide on how to counter keep away as grappler :3