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  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger 2 года назад +43

    So DnF Duel is out and about now, and its time for another video to help you out with the game! We already have a beginners guide on the channel(linked at the end of this video) but lets get a bit more into the weeds with a few concepts in this game why not! So Here is 7 essential tips for you(timestamped, natch) and hope this video helps you out! ***EDIT*** since it was brought up in the comments, yes you can kara regular throws as well! It doesn't just have to be a special move!

  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger 2 года назад +56

    I will say in making this video I was gonna use the grappler originally as a kara-grab example, but then I saw how it worked for the enchantress and the huge boost she gets and well, she took his place lol. Its some SF4 ken kara grab range stuff. Expect more DnF Duel coverage in the future and if you wanna learn more there's some links in the vid description for you to check out!

    • @tortillas4sale824
      @tortillas4sale824 2 года назад

      8i8

    • @pneuma4329
      @pneuma4329 2 года назад +1

      As a fellow Grappler enjoyer, what’s his kara move to cancel from?

    • @nowaylater6950
      @nowaylater6950 2 года назад

      @@pneuma4329 ruclips.net/video/cTvfgdRshEM/видео.html. This one explain the kara better than just through words.

    • @corinfgc
      @corinfgc 2 года назад

      @@pneuma4329 B works. You can do qcb B ~ MS.

  • @jihra
    @jihra 2 года назад +9

    The blocking info legit change my play style while on the toilet ty.

    • @ihatethisgame6827
      @ihatethisgame6827 2 года назад

      Yes! Especially since he showed it using my main. Now I can start approaching rangers and launchers now lol

  • @Trindall91
    @Trindall91 2 года назад +11

    Quick PSA for training mode! You can hold forward [6], back [4] or down [2] while pressing your Round Restart keybind (in my case, Select) in order to set your respawn to either wall or in the centre of the stage, respectively. I audibly gasped when I found this out! Super awesome and very sneakily hidden QoL.

    • @geremysorlini5283
      @geremysorlini5283 2 года назад +1

      It's a great quality of life in some arcsys games. Guilty Gear Strive also does the same thing. And I think *maybe* DBFZ does it too but I could be wrong.
      I wish it had the same character reaction options as the GGST training mode though

    • @not_ordnance
      @not_ordnance 2 года назад

      If you press up [8] I think you should swap sides as well

    • @ControlShifty
      @ControlShifty 2 года назад

      @@geremysorlini5283 yes DBFZ does it too, btw if you hold up or [8] you side switch

  • @luciddre4m
    @luciddre4m 2 года назад +30

    You made this video just to beat up on the Swift Master didn't you

  • @TheDjdeath45
    @TheDjdeath45 2 года назад +33

    No blocking in the air, prob the biggest thing to get use to for me, I already jump alot in other games which isn't advisable, but it feels safe, that'll get me killed here..........pain

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад +15

      yep its just not that kinda game. That said that makes jumps dangerous to do, which is something I am always a fan of

    • @gondola1637
      @gondola1637 2 года назад +2

      all of my other mains in every other fighting game rely on air dashing and jumping... this game feels like pain but im willing to learn it

    • @noboty4168
      @noboty4168 2 года назад +2

      I have a lot of guilty gear habits to shake off myself. I really miss the dash macro...

    • @Rationalific
      @Rationalific 2 года назад

      I agree. I like air-blocking in fighting games. It's okay to me if there are some select moves that can take out a blocking airborne opponent, but in this game, every move does. And it's not like the moves don't have a long reach. They reach half-way across the screen and often pretty far into the air as well. I knew this going in, and it's its own game, but it can be hard to get used to and definitely takes some options off the table.

    • @DShy96
      @DShy96 2 года назад +1

      Holy crap, I'm not the only one saying this. Thank you.

  • @bumpyface228
    @bumpyface228 2 года назад +4

    Roof as always great upload. I'm trying to get a few of my friends into fighters and I always send them your vids. Keep up the great work.

  • @charlesmanning7715
    @charlesmanning7715 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for the tips, me and my buddy played alot yesterday. I find it funny that Grappler and Swift Master are a lopsided match-up as well as my mains 🤣

  • @BruhChickenTho
    @BruhChickenTho 2 года назад +1

    Lmfaoo never lose that intro. It makes my day every time

  • @mademedothis424
    @mademedothis424 2 года назад +26

    I'm having issues with Striker dealing with zoners. I'll try using white health to cancel into getting closer, but man, it seems like some characters in this have infinite detached blockstrings. I must be missing something, but I'm genuinely not sure what.

    • @grapplermalegrindset5827
      @grapplermalegrindset5827 2 года назад +6

      I feel the same way playing grappler. I have armor but everbody just spams low light and I end up blocking the whole match trying to get my turn.

    • @mozealderman7812
      @mozealderman7812 2 года назад +3

      Use the guard button to dash and roll . UT makes it way easier. They have a tutorial that let's you practice it

    • @GoodGuyGamingNY
      @GoodGuyGamingNY 2 года назад +2

      Doesnt striker have invincible moves to projectile?

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад +7

      Striker can keep you locked down for a very long time. She is an example of a character you will have to start using the guard cancel on. Yeah she can "bait it" but only very early on, if she otherwise commits past a few hits its basically a free get off me.

    • @mozealderman7812
      @mozealderman7812 2 года назад +2

      she is super annoying to fight. And when she takes damage and gains more mp it feels so hard to get your turn back or to even know when it's your turn.

  • @The_Choob
    @The_Choob 2 года назад +1

    Great video, I played a few sets against people spamming counters last night and it was driving me crazy.

  • @jojounin
    @jojounin 2 года назад +3

    @rooflemonger, Just a little something I noticed you said at 1:25, Grappler actually CAN combo 5B into 2S (hold), there's a sweet spot when you release the S early and it DOES combo :)

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      yeah found that out not long after making this video actually!

  • @cpt.hebikurashota7545
    @cpt.hebikurashota7545 2 года назад +1

    Thank you sir for these tips.
    Actually wanted to ask if there is DLC planned for this game and if so what type (hopefully more character archetypes). Was kind of disappointed that there isn't a special physical edition (really want an art book for this beautiful artwork).
    Looking forward to more DNF coverage, hope you are staying healthy.

  • @mikeestill1672
    @mikeestill1672 2 года назад +10

    I had my first online matches last night using Launcher. My zoning was so savage that I got kicked from the room 🤣🤣🤣

    • @PiffSett
      @PiffSett 2 года назад +1

      Your cheezy gameplay was so savage you got kicked from the room…All of her normals are projectiles!! She takes absolutely no skill whatsoever all😩😩Thats probably right up your alley tho👍🏾

    • @mikeestill1672
      @mikeestill1672 2 года назад

      @@PiffSett I also play Dragon Knight too, soooooo

  • @AlkisGD
    @AlkisGD 2 года назад

    You're the man, Roofle! Thank you for rekindling my interest in this game!
    (I had completely forgotten about it, what with Elden Ring and stuff.)

  • @Mediamatix
    @Mediamatix 2 года назад +1

    Lows ALWAYS beat counters?! D:
    Geezuz, didn't realize that one! Thanks, this makes my Striker life way easier! :3

  • @phdbot4483
    @phdbot4483 2 года назад +1

    Dang! Good to know that Kara-cancel into grabs exist in this game too! I loved doing them ever since I played Potemkin in GGST!
    Back to #1, I forgot, does whiff-punishing throws result in a counter hit too like certain other games? (I'd find out myself if I had the game.) 🤔

  • @abelmelo6409
    @abelmelo6409 2 года назад +1

    Awesome content man!

  • @TJizzle82
    @TJizzle82 2 года назад

    A tip on how long the manna takes to refill. Since you were using the Kunoichi flame tornado, the time it takes to refill is based on how much manna you had. So you were doing it at 10 left, it sets the manna gauge at -80 and it has to recover that back before you see the positive gauge gain. Which is why at 70 manna, it refilled so fast because it only had to recover -20... Hope that makes sense

  • @TJTRIZZ
    @TJTRIZZ 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for making these videos much appreciated 👍

  • @Syr3
    @Syr3 2 года назад

    Best DNF tutorials on yt. Thx, teacher! :D

  • @tulegaming415
    @tulegaming415 2 года назад +1

    Rooflemonger will you have bread and butter combos? I learned marvel vs Capcom infinite and dbz fighterz combos from your channel.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      Combos are coming, literally working on grappler combo guide right now. More throughout the weekend into next week.

  • @gabegucker1222
    @gabegucker1222 2 года назад +4

    Love how its all examples of beating up Swift Master because all we want is to watch SM players get smacked around lmao

  • @Mene0
    @Mene0 2 года назад

    Grappler vs Swift Master, what a curious choice of player X training dummy from Roofle 👀

  • @rufus8694
    @rufus8694 2 года назад +1

    Could you make tips for defense? Ghostblade doesn't have a DP and it sucks having to guess whether I'm gonna get grabbed once someone decides to end their infinite block string.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      Ghostblade you gotta learn to do guard cancels. Sucks but thems the breaks

  • @sonicboom722
    @sonicboom722 2 года назад +1

    Loving DnF duel its a tone of fun but i noticed alot of characters have so much mid to long range spamable attacks its feels almost impossible to get in when playing either striker or Grappler. Especially vs Troubleshooter and Inquisitor

    • @danquaza9275
      @danquaza9275 2 года назад

      Striker feels like a great first character to learn the game but all those active frames don’t help in a game like this where everybody has big mid range moves. Mid range is hugeee in this game and striker just can’t fight against it

  • @yuyujackson7391
    @yuyujackson7391 2 года назад

    In DnF duel what happens if medium button and magic button is pressed when jumping; which button comes out first. Secondly if jump medium is pressed can it be quickly linked to air magic button or is the link height sensitive? Thanks

  • @FullmetalRoccia
    @FullmetalRoccia 2 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @Nimrod336
    @Nimrod336 2 года назад +1

    Keep up the content your a very good voice for the fcg

  • @malacara1335
    @malacara1335 2 года назад +2

    Can you kara cancel into normal throw?

  • @eastcoasttone3952
    @eastcoasttone3952 2 года назад

    Does Hitman have any kara cancel tech? I'm curious because his 6S moves him forward

  • @dotmelee
    @dotmelee 2 года назад

    Can Grappler use his charged moves that lunge him forward for kara stuff? If not, what moves do let him kara?

  • @requiem9167
    @requiem9167 2 года назад +3

    This game is so damn fun I can’t wait for more guides as it progresses!

  • @radhisghaier6394
    @radhisghaier6394 2 года назад

    Dnf duel is exactly what we needed before sf6
    They work kinda similar in meter management

  • @CasualMee
    @CasualMee 2 года назад

    The ps5/ps4 input delay, does it affect long combos or casual play? Thank you

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      its way overblown. ive been playing on ps5 im still doing just great, let alone at a casual level.

  • @sharksocks8130
    @sharksocks8130 2 года назад +4

    Man so far I haven’t won a single match lol, swiftmaster is hella busted that’s for sure but I did notice most players start combos always with ground attacks

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      Its a very grounded game in a lot of ways since you can't airblock in this game, jumping carries a fair bit of risk.

    • @sharksocks8130
      @sharksocks8130 2 года назад

      @@rooflemonger yeah I noticed that, I was relying on the reach of the inquisitor, but I always found myself losing my turn, amazing game tho

  • @matejstemberk8110
    @matejstemberk8110 Год назад

    How do you do the reversal ?

  • @dope4157
    @dope4157 2 года назад

    great content!

  • @telepotatoe8508
    @telepotatoe8508 2 года назад

    What’s the overall census of this game? Like a 8/10 score ?

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      I like it and its fun to play, with the best netcode of any modern fighter on the market. you can assign any number you want to that.

  • @androtaz2621
    @androtaz2621 2 года назад

    Still trying to get a hang of when to use conversions. Feels like a mini RC mechanic.

  • @sakuyarules
    @sakuyarules 2 года назад +2

    You can't tell me what to do! I'm gonna wake up super anyway!

  • @briepeterson9718
    @briepeterson9718 2 года назад

    can ppl LAND on supers? some games, it doesnt work

  • @Starrz88
    @Starrz88 2 года назад

    DK's forward advancing 5B can't be kara canceled to anything. or i'm bad idk

  • @MarkusSimm
    @MarkusSimm 2 года назад +1

    I played a Ghostblade in player match where i just...couldn't press anything. I just could not do ANYTHING no matter what i did, I couldnt break through, i almost thought it was a bot because the execution of every combo was completely flawless not a single whiff.

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      try guard canceling. it is very important in this game.

    • @MarkusSimm
      @MarkusSimm 2 года назад

      @@hmad898 I forgot about that :o even if I did though, I'd lose my mp and then he'd just zoom back in and get me in smother 25 hit combo :/

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      @@MarkusSimm Id recommend going in training move, and seeing which of his moves you can punish. start with the ones that really annoyed you. it also might've been that you just came across a really good player on his way up in ranked

    • @MarkusSimm
      @MarkusSimm 2 года назад

      @@hmad898 it was a player match and he had all his stats hidden that combined with the fact he NEVER dropped a combo was a little suspicious. Given me PTSD of that character xD still managed to get a few rounds on him though

  • @Kinos141
    @Kinos141 2 года назад

    This game should go to EVO. I am enjoying watching and playing it.

  • @shads123
    @shads123 2 года назад +2

    Didn’t know the charge was projectile invul

  • @dolphin2046
    @dolphin2046 2 года назад

    Exhausted till the proper mana builds up probably.

  • @rockryu1376
    @rockryu1376 2 года назад

    If it helps anyone, Conversion is similar to Baroque Cancels from Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom in the function

  • @sirEthereal
    @sirEthereal 2 года назад

    No Fighterz patch?

    • @EigoSensei
      @EigoSensei 2 года назад

      Nah. He said he wasn't doing it.

  • @foreverfirebird5712
    @foreverfirebird5712 2 года назад

    Does this game play like an airdasher or more like an anime styled traditional fighter?

    • @mademedothis424
      @mademedothis424 2 года назад +2

      Not at all an airdasher. No airdashes at all, in fact. One character has a double jump and a bunch of air lariats move you forward, but you can't airblock and you can't airdash. It's definitely a footsies-zoning game.

    • @EigoSensei
      @EigoSensei 2 года назад +4

      Weird mix of both honestly. Neutral is akin to a tradition fighter. But combos are long like airdashers. However, there are no air dashes or air blocks

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад +2

      This is def an anime fighting game, but a bit more grounded. No air dashing, no blocking while jumping. Leaving the ground has consequences you will have to accept if you get called out. That said in other ways the game is more anime than anything ever with how crazy some of the characters get

  • @megasupernewbie
    @megasupernewbie 2 года назад

    how do you block in this game?

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      back to block or hold block button, 2 ways

  • @Fluffledump
    @Fluffledump 2 года назад

    I know it's DNF season, but are you going to cover the latest balance patch on FighterZ?

  • @HZAres
    @HZAres 2 года назад

    every time i see that fighter i keep think oh they finally added jam to strive?

  • @silasmoreira7149
    @silasmoreira7149 2 года назад

    so What is The difference between punish and counter?

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      punish doesnt give you the extra hitstun.

    • @silasmoreira7149
      @silasmoreira7149 2 года назад

      @@hmad898 but How you get punish and How you get counter? On the video you can get both in the same situation (hit the opponent in the startup frames of his buttons).

  • @link1016
    @link1016 2 года назад

    Damn im trying to do that grappler counter full launcher into kick into another full charge launcher but it just wouldnt land

    • @TheSeventhChild
      @TheSeventhChild 2 года назад

      Yeah its pretty tight, I've only managed to get it a few times. If its too hard, full charge Steiner instead of the second kick is easier.

  • @nate5490
    @nate5490 2 года назад +1

    So very glad wake up super isn't an option. That's y i stop playing strive. Rams abused the hell outta it

  • @icannotthinkofaname6248
    @icannotthinkofaname6248 2 года назад

    Does anyone have a clue as to how to deal with dragon knight spamming the meteor thing? It has such a big blast radius, is safe after touching the ground so it cant lead to a full combo punish, can cancel into fly right after to be even safer
    i cant seem to get close every time, i tried teleporting with ghostblade but she just flies away, rolling in general has too much of a recovery that she gets enough time to jump and meteor again.
    Dragon knight is just kinda illegal imo she gets a large zoning slash, a dragon for set ups, a dp, good command normals, what cant she do?

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      play grappler and shoulder charge or something idk

    • @Slackerzz-
      @Slackerzz- 2 года назад

      Lost warriors forward magic attack destroys dragon knights who stay in the air and his forward heavy destroys ground zoners like ranger and launcher. Try him out!

  • @baronbeefcake4701
    @baronbeefcake4701 2 года назад

    I keep getting stuck in people's giant long combo strings and I can't do anything

    • @baronbeefcake4701
      @baronbeefcake4701 2 года назад

      This game is starting to piss me off. I literally can't do anything

  • @Cybermoonmage
    @Cybermoonmage 2 года назад +2

    tip one... DODGE!

  • @leonardocr506
    @leonardocr506 2 года назад

    Is this game based on some type of anime series or something?

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      a korean mmo.

  • @TheBlurReturns16
    @TheBlurReturns16 2 года назад

    Any Trouble Shooter mains out there? Thought I was gonna be maining Hitman or GhostBlade but man Trouble Shooter is just too fun! Swiftmaster and Crusader get on my nerves though 🤣

    • @ihatethisgame6827
      @ihatethisgame6827 2 года назад

      I started learning ts yesterday, but my main is grappler. I agree though, ts is so much fun!

  • @amiasg9305
    @amiasg9305 2 года назад

    Damn... I need to stop spamming reversals

  • @thoughtsonthings4095
    @thoughtsonthings4095 2 года назад +4

    Boop

  • @breezy8077
    @breezy8077 2 года назад +1

    Been playing grappler and oh my lord. Some matchups are like watching paint dry!

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад

      grapplers are always low tier in fighters for the most part. Especially in this game honestly he's probably the worst character. That said his damage is the overall highest so the hits you get are satisfying, but yeah you are gonna have to learn to block and like it.

  • @phaseshifter3d455
    @phaseshifter3d455 2 года назад

    Tip#1, Play the Crusader. Tip#2, Play the Crusader...

  • @youngdannyaye
    @youngdannyaye 2 года назад +3

    LTG gonna be mad af when he finds out DNF has crush counters LOL

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад +4

      maybe he should stop spamming reversal then

  • @walkergodeep1
    @walkergodeep1 2 года назад

    Where the new DBZ patch video

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад +5

      they picked a bad time to put that patch notes out, as dnf, an all new game is out. That and to be frankly honest my interest in DBFZ is at an all time low means there probably wont be a vid on it. Only 24 hours in a day and I gotta pick and choose which videos to make.

    • @pklifeupa7064
      @pklifeupa7064 2 года назад

      @@rooflemonger that patch came out way too late. Labcoat got to be annoying broken garbage, for too long.

  • @yesghbnnk8511
    @yesghbnnk8511 2 года назад

    You sound like Goku

  • @grapplermalegrindset5827
    @grapplermalegrindset5827 2 года назад +1

    Idk how y'all are even playing the game. I've got about 14 hours of playtime now and 13 hours of it has been blocking.

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      try using guard cancel more.

    • @TheRealTact
      @TheRealTact 2 года назад

      I swear I hate this game I’m getting destroyed online I can’t fight I don’t know when it’s my turn, it’s just block block block everytime I’m sick of this shit.

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      @@TheRealTact get better

  • @Nimrod336
    @Nimrod336 2 года назад

    Gd give it a month or 2 and people will be t.o.d off a punish

  • @DShy96
    @DShy96 2 года назад

    I enjoy this game but my only grip is not being able to block in the air. If they let air block happen, people like Launcher would be a non issue

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger 2 года назад

      Precisely why they won't do it.

    • @DShy96
      @DShy96 2 года назад

      @@MayHugger That's... Not a good thing. In fact, if that's the reason why(hypothetically), that just means she's a poorly made character.

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger 2 года назад

      @@DShy96 No, the game is fine without it, means you can't be safe while evading some stuff on the ground and being able to do mix, but if adding it makes a character bad, then they won't add it.
      I don't believe you can say a character is poorly made if a mechanic that doesn't exist in the game were to be added would make them trivial, since they were made without the mechanic in mind.

    • @DShy96
      @DShy96 2 года назад

      @@MayHugger Question- Do you know air reset do exist, right? That in turn means you can get locked out blocking and be forced to eat all the damage with no way to get out of it once it starts. Several characters (Inquisitor) can easily do that. So do you still think they shouldn't have air blocks? Do you really want ( technically) T.O.Ds in the game with little risk? Because I sure as hell don't.

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger 2 года назад

      @@DShy96 Then it's a kink to be ironed out, I don't think every single game needs air blocking.

  • @sharriffchaplin3733
    @sharriffchaplin3733 2 года назад

    I’m sorry this game is trash net code wise it great game play it trash its a shooter delight injustice 2 vibe it good in looks but fighter and judo dude gets shafted in this madness but all and all it needs some serious fixing for example when special grabs get knocked out by a simple jab it just useless I’m sorry it just two back dashes and get shot a lot from most of the cast especially if main is two of three people without a projectile.

    • @jackalknight8540
      @jackalknight8540 2 года назад

      Learn Defense, also grabs shouldnt go throw normals anyways, have you tried hugging a man whos punching you? also if there not zoners usually they have anti zoning moves. read the tooltips.

    • @sharriffchaplin3733
      @sharriffchaplin3733 2 года назад

      @@jackalknight8540 thanks I try that next time it was one of those weird moments in game where getting close was too tough and when I did jab right out of my moves. Once again don’t get me wrong I do like this game a lot and these tips and Videos help I just feel the balance is off character wise and I feel this is the new way that FGC will walk for awhile and I’m curious to see where this will take us.

  • @OwNAvenged
    @OwNAvenged 2 года назад

    I am begging you to pronounce "Mana" properly.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад +2

      im begging you to learn how its pronounced

    • @viscosity7893
      @viscosity7893 2 года назад

      No way you pronounce mana like “mawna”

    • @OwNAvenged
      @OwNAvenged 2 года назад

      @@viscosity7893 That is the correct way to pronounce it, yeah.
      You don't say "Legend of Man-uh"

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 2 года назад

      @@OwNAvenged he isnt. youtube does that when you say things the robot doesnt like. this has been a thing for a while.

    • @OwNAvenged
      @OwNAvenged 2 года назад

      @@hmad898 Ahh, alright. That makes a LOT more sense, I didn't think he was the type of guy to do that. I don't really comment on youtube often, so I didn't even know that was a thing. Thanks for letting me know.

  • @kogascool
    @kogascool 2 года назад +4

    I kinda regret buying the game. I got it for enchantress but she is sooooooooo bad. You have to work so much harder than other character and her matchups is lose to most of the cast. Ugggg

    • @dirtyfox5800
      @dirtyfox5800 2 года назад +2

      She is a puppet character after all...

    • @kogascool
      @kogascool 2 года назад +3

      @@dirtyfox5800 actually her puppet stuff is horrible. She a really bad puppet character and it is best to play her as range character with the puppet throw in. The puppet can be easy stun lock or dash threw, the puppet also is slow and doesn’t change direction fast enough. It loses to just about everything. The character puppet work is half bake.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger 2 года назад +4

      enchantress is a puppet character and was always gonna be harder than everyone else. Those characters take a lot more time and effort before you start seeing results

    • @kogascool
      @kogascool 2 года назад +2

      @@rooflemonger actually no her puppet stuff is just bad. It not about her be hard to play. It that fact that she doesn’t have to tool at all. Go ask a enchantress player. They will tell. I’m surprised you would even make that comment with out knowing the character. Oh and yes I play puppet character but they have set up and tool to win where enchantress doesn’t. I dare you to try and play her as a puppet character. You will get wash. The best thing about her is her projectile.

    • @dirtyfox5800
      @dirtyfox5800 2 года назад +2

      @@kogascool Too early to say honestly