@Mazzel Tov real deal? Anyone who feels entitled to sort people, and especially recognized masters, and label them 'rubbish' or 'real deal' just because of their subjective preference, demonstrates immaturity and bad manners. I doubt anyone would be impressed by your rude attacks and blunt judgementslism. Calling people's opinion rubbish just because they appreciate the music and performance of a great pianist... Learning some manners is more important than learning the correct fingering. Rubbish is what fits your comment way better.
@Mazzel Tov you even attacked Ravel personally. And your comments are plain rude and don't make any sense. Try to look in the mirror before barking at others. I'm not interested in what you say, I'm here to enjoy the video of a great master. And your petty attempts will not change anyone's worldview, because people come here to listen to Perlemuter's words, not to your toxic utterings.
@@aivarasz Hi.I have been following these arguments between you and Mazzel Tov. I must say that you Sir, are a pathetic prick. Back to your milk bottle.
7:58 - He talks about the changes Ravel himself made in his copy of Ondine, also known as the "version Perlemuter". That's so interesting and important as well!
C'est un document inestimable et si précieux dans ce qu' il contient d'enseignement authentique sur cette œuvre formidable de Ravel, la plus belle de tout le répertoire à mon sens (et peut-être de toute la musique toutes époques confondues ). Merci de la mettre en ligne et de la laisser pour les générations futures.
Thanks for posting this, it brings back a lot of memories. This was filmed in the Royal Conservatory of The Hague. The name of the Dutch student was probably Paul Huijts, but I'm not 100% sure about it.
I see! Well I don't think we've met, because I started studying at that institute one or two years later...anyway, thanks for replying. And you played it really well, also quite fearlessly!! Perlemuter was such a great Ravel authority - and by the way, I posted his earliest recording of the Gaspard (1951) on my channel.
Ravel marked the beginning of Ondine "PPP." In most cases this would mean extremely quiet, an enormous challenge for any pianist. The master and the student here played no quieter than mezzo forte or mezzo piano. But I saw no discussion of this. I'm not saying that PPP is easy or even possible in Ondine, or that Perlemuter was a bad player, or even that Ravel was a bad composer. Au contraire! Just saying that I wanted some discussion of the dynamics, that's all.
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It's such a treasure and privilege to learn from a direct descendant of Ravel, who knew the real intents of the composer better than anyone else.
@Mazzel Tov real deal? Anyone who feels entitled to sort people, and especially recognized masters, and label them 'rubbish' or 'real deal' just because of their subjective preference, demonstrates immaturity and bad manners. I doubt anyone would be impressed by your rude attacks and blunt judgementslism. Calling people's opinion rubbish just because they appreciate the music and performance of a great pianist... Learning some manners is more important than learning the correct fingering. Rubbish is what fits your comment way better.
@Mazzel Tov you even attacked Ravel personally. And your comments are plain rude and don't make any sense. Try to look in the mirror before barking at others. I'm not interested in what you say, I'm here to enjoy the video of a great master. And your petty attempts will not change anyone's worldview, because people come here to listen to Perlemuter's words, not to your toxic utterings.
@Mazzel Tov I hope you will recover soon from being unwell. If you do, please seek some professional assistance.
@@aivarasz Hi.I have been following these arguments between you and Mazzel Tov. I must say that you Sir, are a pathetic prick. Back to your milk bottle.
@Mazzel Tov you are just letting everyone see what you are. I won't be stopping you from it. Can't be mad at a person who needs help.
Oh, my goodness - what an amazing blessing to see this man teaching - so much to learn from a direct Ravel pupil!
7:58 - He talks about the changes Ravel himself made in his copy of Ondine, also known as the "version Perlemuter". That's so interesting and important as well!
C'est un document inestimable et si précieux dans ce qu' il contient d'enseignement authentique sur cette œuvre formidable de Ravel, la plus belle de tout le répertoire à mon sens (et peut-être de toute la musique toutes époques confondues ). Merci de la mettre en ligne et de la laisser pour les générations futures.
This is musical GOLDUST!
39:40 "To play Ondine like that and then make such a blunder"....LOL
pianopera what? What are you playing?
@@kevinhartmemes3821 the pupil didn't even know the right notes haha, he put a g in the a minor arpeggio!
Thanks for posting this, it brings back a lot of memories. This was filmed in the Royal Conservatory of The Hague. The name of the Dutch student was probably Paul Huijts, but I'm not 100% sure about it.
I see! Well I don't think we've met, because I started studying at that institute one or two years later...anyway, thanks for replying. And you played it really well, also quite fearlessly!! Perlemuter was such a great Ravel authority - and by the way, I posted his earliest recording of the Gaspard (1951) on my channel.
@drrdrddr Thank you for being the catalyst through whom other people can learn - and very well done!
The pianist was me, Derk Pik. It was a wonderful experience.
@@derkp.9818 you played wonderfully! I do hope you continued to play
@@derkp.9818 How old were you during this taping?
44:34 “you must play that (reemergence of the main theme) as if nothing happened”
Mon ancient prof!
"ancien"
Je deteste l'autocorrect!
@@frankdaykin6268 D'accord.
0:37 he thought that the student left. That was funny.
“You are like Scarbo, disappearing and reappearing!” 😆
Quelle leçon !!!
35:55 hallucinant ce passage
That Le Gibet performance was great lmao
The student is about 60 years old now.
He must be 62 today, since he said in the comments that he was 22 years old at the time.
I wonder if he became a concert pianist@@j.vonhogen9650
Ravel marked the beginning of Ondine "PPP." In most cases this would mean extremely quiet, an enormous challenge for any pianist. The master and the student here played no quieter than mezzo forte or mezzo piano. But I saw no discussion of this. I'm not saying that PPP is easy or even possible in Ondine, or that Perlemuter was a bad player, or even that Ravel was a bad composer. Au contraire! Just saying that I wanted some discussion of the dynamics, that's all.