USS Forrestal (CV-59) - America's first Supercarrier
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- USS Forrestal, lead ship of a class of 56,000 ton aircraft carriers, was built at Newport News, Virginia. Commissioned in October 1955 as the U.S. Navy's first carrier of entirely post-World War II design, she was conceived as an operational platform for large, high-performance aircraft. After shakedown in early 1956 and a trip to the eastern Atlantic during the Suez crisis later in the year, Forrestal began the first of her many Mediterranean cruises in January 1957. She operated in the North Atlantic in September and October of that year and again cruised to the eastern Atlantic during the 1958 Lebanon crisis.
From 1958 to 1966, Forrestal deployed to the Mediterranean six more times. Closer to home, she also conducted aircraft trials, operated in the Atlantic and Caribbean, and was refitted with new aviation and command and control systems. In June 1967, the big carrier began her only Pacific Ocean cruise, to provide additional airpower to the Vietnam war effort. This was cut short when, on 29 July she suffered a huge fire that began among aircraft on her flight deck and spread into her hangar. After her crew, showing (in the words of her embarked flag officer) "far more acts of sheer heroism than I could count" had extinguished the blaze, the ship was left badly damaged. More than 130 of Forrestal's men lost their lives, 26 aircraft were destroyed and over thirty damaged. From this tragic incident, the Navy learned firefighting lessons that are still fresh more than three decades later.
Forrestal was repaired in time to begin her eighth Mediterranean tour in mid-1968. She returned regularly over the next twenty-three years, operating with that sea's Sixth Fleet for a career total of twenty separate deployments. During that period, Forrestal also was reclassified as CV-59 (in 1975), served as host ship for United States Bicentennial celebrations at New York City in July 1976, and underwent a massive Service Life Extension Program (SLEP) overhaul in 1983-85. Her Mediterranean visits included participation in Tunisian flood relief efforts in 1973, in the confrontation with Libya in 1981 and in protecting Iraq's Kurdish population in 1991. In 1982 and again in 1988, the carrier operated in the Indian Ocean. She was on "standby" duty in the Atlantic during the 1990-1991 Kuwait war.
Following her 1991 deployment, Forrestal received a new mission, to serve as the Navy's training carrier. She was redesignated AVT-59 in February 1992 and spent much of that year on training service out of Pensacola, Florida. In September, she entered the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard to begin a major overhaul. However, her long service was cut short by the post-Cold War contraction of the Nation's military power. USS Forrestal was decommissioned in September 1993 and stricken from the Naval Vessel Register.
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Was my home for several years in the mid 80's. She was a solid ship and would do what was asked of her. She answered all bells and didn't miss an appointment. Best command I ever served on.
She will be sorely missed by many of her former crew. Farewell old lady.....
It's a legend even General R Ford aircraft carrier doesn't come close to the Forrestal Class Aircraft carrier
Last class of carriers to be fitted with real gun's and not pom poms
She was my Dad's home 63/64. Dad was one of the Crash Crewman standing on the flight deck the day they landed the C-130. He had some awesome stories to tell about that. RIP Dad 1943-2017
I served when commissioned, a wonderful ship that should have been saved as a museum
V-2 Division, arresting gear, 1968-1970. Three Med. cruises and a lot of memories. I was a young man back then, now a senior citizen, where have the years gone...
This was my ship, the "USS Forrestal" (CV-59). I was on her from 1988 until 1991. I made a lot of good friends and ship-mates. I miss 'her' and all my contacts from and 'because' of her.
if you were there July 1988 you may have PTSD due to Iran Air 655. I was diagnosed with it due to my guilt and shame.
@@andrewkuoppala3925 liberal
Forrestal should have had a 2nd life as a museum. I was very fortunate my old ship USS Midway became a museum. I always had the highest respect for Forrestal and all of the people that served on her. She was a truly GREAT ship.
The 1 Million dollars a year maintenance was hard to acquire, so it was scrapped.
@@bigcatdaddy76016 She was sold to ship breakers for less than 1000$. Do you think that Her history was that cheap????
@@bigcatdaddy76016 and what about the sailors who lost their lives serving aboard Her?
Yea, 1 mil spent on cockroaches on coke is a much better investment! Or maybe give 1 mil a year so some third world sh*thole can pretend to be our friends?
I work on a carrier museum for 15 yrs now and I know the dollars it takes to man a Essex class museum let alone a ship twice it's size!! There was literally no place to put her where the public could safely come see her and be maintained. Too many things were pirated off her for the last conventional carrier's to stay in service!! Just think of her as an organ donor lol!! Long live CV-59!!
Thank you Sir, this was my home from 80 to 84. And again from 87 to 89. VA 83, G3WEPS, Ships Safety Dept.
I was with you V-4 Div
My dad was drafted into the navy in 1954. He was assigned to the Forrestal while still in dry dock. He was with her until he got out of the navy in 1958. He had some amazing stories about being on the flagship of the fleet at the time.
Thanks for this.. my mate was a Royal Navy exchange pilot on the USS Forrestal. 👍
My home away from home on her first Med cruise, plus England and Scotland, and finally crossing the Arctic Circle on Sept 21 at 6 degrees 6 mins East longitude. Proud to serve my country in this way.
My`home' from: 1960-`63, [3rd Div.]GREAT Ship/Crew,Had a ball,& learned/saw/ lots of good stuff/places! R.I.P. CVA-59.
My home from 1986 to 1990. Comm dept. Miss the old girl, best in the fleet!
I miss my ship. Fare thee well. Haze Grey, and Underway ... no more
My wife's cousin's husband was Flight Commander in May 1987. Lt. Commander Paul Skurske. We went out in the Atlantic 43 miles for Family Day. What an airshow!
Flight OPS Commander, excuse me.
Thank you for the wonderful tribute. I served in the decom-crew in '93.
They should have turned her into razor blades, but instead they transformed her into a training carrier by 1992. Imo she served well from 1955-1991...
damiion666 Actually, training carriers are essential for new aviators. The crew is more ready to deal w/novice mistakes than a crew that is used to "routine" traps, as if any trap is routine.
And she is being turned in to razor blades in Brownsville.
She should have been a museum as she was the first of her kind.
Elena G did you ever notice any strange phenomena while serving aboard her?
In 2001, we were docked alongside the vessel with one Chief that had been aboard her and he said that ship was haunted...
The first night in port, we were allowed to turn our thermal cameras towards her to look for any anomalies and you'd better believe that she wasn't right!
The next day or Captain was curious about what we, i.e. combat systems and the rest of the watch got to witness... asked the port authority about her state and whether she had power from the dock; however, she was devoid of all power!
Now, here's the real kicker! That ship was *HOT* in random patterns with areas reaching the maximum in thermal output. FC had to check the camera and it's was operational! The ship had thermal patterns of people on the deck, body patterns on the hull, and movement at the Quarter Deck! We literally had seen bodies moving on the decommissioned vessel that warranted a rover to be sent across the pier to see if someone was trespassing... not without the walkway being placed and there were zero contractors at the time were scheduled to be around the pier. The watch never recorded the event due to the nature of what couldn't be explained!
Any of your firsthand time aboard her would be great!
Thanks
CG-48 at Port in Rhode Island...
I apologize for any typos, Google's keyboard is atrocious!
I hate small keyboards, too.
My enlisted were convinced she was haunted, yes. One of them said he was down by cold stores when out of nowhere a Chief came and yelled at him. Then the Chief walked away and vanished down a blind passageway.
Legend has it that a CPO died while at sea, and his body was stored in cold stores on the 2nd deck until he could be sent home. It's his spirit that haunted the ship, so they say. I have friends who are adamant that the ghost was never part of the tragic fire in 1967. Most of them seriously doubt the ghost stories anyhow.
While I do not believe in ghosts, I do believe in unclean spirits as they are attested to in the Bible. As spiritual beings, they can appear to disappear at whim. They inhabit places which have known death and destruction, so there could well have been one or more aboard.
However, FID is razor blades now. They broke her at the Brownsville shipyard. a couple of years ago The ship breakers were to have photographed the bulkhead artwork done by crewmen and sent it to the FID historian or another. When we de-commed her, WTDs were tied open and other stuff like desks and chairs were tied down. Some stuff went off in tri-walls for "recycling."
if I remember correctly. the Forestall and her sister the Saratoga were initially laid down as straight deck carriers. buy due to there early construction. they were able to incorporate the angle deck into the build. the next set of carriers. the kitty hawk class were improved Forestall class. the biggest difference was in the layout of the elevators and catapults
You are correct in your understanding.
Actually that was CV 58 that was never built!! USS United States.
Video failed to mention Forrestal was off the coast of Libia in the Gulf of Sidra with the Nimitz battle group before we relieved her we the 2 mig 23's were shot down!! Also off the coast of Lebanon during the crisis for 45 day's straight. Protecting the no fly zone during Iran/ Irak war . Off the coast of north Africa through the suiez twice. North Atlantic with the British navy above the Artic circle prepping the Brits before they went to the Falklands!! I was aboard her then!!
I served on the Forrestal from 72 to 74. Radioman.
I've been waiting for this video CV 59
I am proud to have been a part of her history serving aboard with F14 squadron VF31 Tomcaters. She will always hold a place in my memory. Good times and bad ( Iraqi conflict and Desert Storm).
Got to see the world.
Forrestal Deserved a better fate. Shame on the beurocrats for they did to her.
The FID!!
My father served on the USS Forrestal during the Vietnam war.
i had a u.S.S. Forrestal model ship - written on the 78th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor at 9:32 PM Pacific Standard Time on Saturday, 7 December 2019
85-90, 2 main machinery room. The video said 33 knots. Being a throttle man I know that we ran alot faster. First super carrier, should have made a museum out of it.
The actual speed is classified. Ever been to the USS NAUTILUS in Connecticut? Most of her dials are plated over since a lot of the acual tech specs remain classified.
Aye mate!
Dean G
75-78. Watching videos like this still sends chills down my back.
1982 Med Cruise with VF-74.
I fueled your aircraft Commander Sam Montgomery
my dad served on this ship! 🥰
V-3 Division/Air Dept from July 1988 - January 1990. That was the most "interesting" part of my life. I have no regrets but wondered what it would have been like to serve aboard a Nimitz class carrier. FID was really showing its age and IMO it should have gone to SLEP in 1989 after taking quite the pounding on its 88 cruise.
When we completed my 2nd Med Cruise in (I believe) 1982, she was slated for a SLEP in Philly as soon as the crew and ship's equipment could be removed. I later learned the overhaul was cut short, basically putting the FID out to pasture.
@@andrewhall178
I was going to say I thought she went to SLEP after our 1982 cruise. They assigned air wing CVW17 to the Sara.
@@andrewhall178 I believe it. The '88 cruise was hell. 108 straight days at sea from the IO to the Arctic in a matter of weeks. The ship took a pounding and the crew was salty. After just two more cruises and a brief stint as the training carrier FID was sent back up to the yard in Philly in 1992 where it was soon decommissioned, stricken and put in mothballs. It was still there after I graduated from college and moved to Philly in the late mid-late 90s. It was sad to see it waste away. I was even sadder when efforts to make it into a museum either on the Delaware River or Baltimore's inner harbor were ultimately denied.
Yo tuve la suerte de subir a este coloso y conocer parte de su tripulación.una experiencia inolvidable.
Sad how it did not even get a chance to become a museum same with the kitty hawk class carriers.
I served on her (OE Div) from 72-73 with a delayed Med Cruise because of her second fire. All 3 of my ships are now gone :( (Waddell DDG-24, Chicago CG-11 and now the 'Zippo' (Flamin' 59 )
V3 from 84 - 88 , sorry she is gone wish I could have had the table from the blue shirt locker
Dad was on the first cruise (1957). He was one of two helicopter pilots, only one helicopter on that cruise.
Whats the music used?
Beutiful ship tho
My dad was air operations officer 1959-60
You left out about half of the aircraft types that operated from her. The EA-6B, F-8, E=1, E-2, and a bunch more.
F-8 was mentioned
Capt. Thomassy
My 2nd ship
Nearly destroyed by fire. July 67
2:35 when tomcats use wing angling as wing folding
I was diagnosed by VA for PTSD as a result of my feelings of guilt over our participation in the downing of Iran Air 655. If you have the same problem please reach out to the VA for the benefits they offer. It is helping me greatly.
Why would you feel guilty 🤷
My home 76-79
Hey John will you by chance in S2 Division if you were I was there to from 76 to 79
@@harrykmittle30924th Division and 1st Division
My father survived this
I was on her for the last med cruise in '91...and shortly after they turned it into a training carrier and started allowing women onboard. Biggest mistake. They would not pull their own weight, and every week you'd hear about a female becoming pregnant and on lite duty. I'm glad to have left the navy shortly after they sent her to the Philly shipyards in '92
1987-1990 S-9 division
Release the# key on all cash register
Release the# key on all cash register
Forrestal died on the 13 anniversary of 9/11 :o
Too bad "wet start Jonny" nearly destroyed it.
Time for a fact check, McCain had nothing to do with the fire.
You probably believe the Earth is flat too.
You are completely wrong and if you if don't know any about the US Navy aviation community---stop spreading false information
@@avfuels Have you ever been in the US Navy? Do you have any experience in naval aviation? If so you'd understand regardless of anyone's politics that John McCain was nearly killed in the USS Forrestal fire
We were taught about this fire when I was in US Navy basic at Great Lakes Naval Training Center in 1976. It became the reason that ALL sailors are trained in firefighting
Summary: an electrical mishap caused a Zuni rocket to launch from a F-4 Phantom across the deck starboard to port and strike an A-4 Skyhawk resulting in the explosion and fire
There were several A-4s parked port aft and several F4s parked starboard aft. Lt McCain was strapped in one of the A4s. Bombs and fuel tanks began to explode
This isn't Hollywood. You don't climb into an aircraft and turn the key. They are preflighted and turned up by an external source by flight deck personnel. So this "wet start" bullshit is internet b/s. McCain's plane was parked side by side with other A4s that were either burinng or exploding. Once he was able to unstrap himself which is not an easy task---he climbed onto the fuel probe an jumped breaking several bones
Don't take my word cause I served 4 years in the US Navy as an Aviation Structural Mechanic. I might know a little something about aircraft and aircraft carriers. There's really no margin for error in that environment---trust me. You have late teen early twenty somethings on the flight deck and mid twenty something aviators
Better yet---check out "Seconds From Disaster---USS Forrestal on RUclips. It was aired some years back on the History Channel I think. It's very informative. It goes really in depth. Be a little objective
Leon J Guisburg AMS3 USN 1975 1979
Don't spread falsehoods just because a person doesn't agree on politics. I didn't support John McCain---but I respected a Naval Aviator. I never heard of John McCain when I was in the navy. I didn't even know he served on the Forrestal until the 1990s and I got out the Navy in 1979
@@leonguisburg413. I said nothing about John McCain starting the fire on the USS Forrestal.
As to your questions, "Have you ever been in the US Navy? Do you have any experience in naval aviation"? Yes, as a matter of fact. I served aboard the USS Forrestal for 5.5 years. Worked on the flight deck refueling aircraft. I was also a Fire Fighting School instructor at FTC Norfolk.
Perhaps your comments were meant for someone else.
My Husband was aboard her during late 80s, nothing worked . Fires aboard were common. collisions were common on flight deck,during flight opps.Glad too get off that floating Hazard.
Incompetent crew???
I remember when the Forrestfire delayed deployment... before it relieved the Saratoga..
Did you hear all those ghost stories they used to tell? I hope they didn't cannibalize the parts, cuz. VP-30 and that training hangar (VP-62?) made one of those "America's most haunted" shows. What's with the ATV bit?
That cruise down the Mississippi was ..... smdh... and yeah, we spent a lot of time thinking of more constructive things the Navy could have been doing while it was holding up the internet.
BlaK Muze Lol tbh I was too damn tired the whole '91 med deployment to worry about ghosts. That Mississippi ride was something else too, lol
AVT - trainer designation to provide new aviators the skill set to make traps all over the globe in a real life environment. She relieved USS LEXINGTON (AVT 16) of WWII fame as the training carrier. CV/CVN - run combat ops at tempo w/not a lot of time to prep nuggets for battle let alone traps.
The FID received the Meritorious Unit Commendation and Navy E for flight ops safety after the 1988 deployment.
Wait was not the USS MIDWAY the first American SUPERCARRIER?
it can't be a super carrier. it wasn't LBGTQ friendly
@@andrewkuoppala3925 LMAO, I support USS Midway then😎😎😎
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we're lucky Traitor didn't give it to Putin!