Nice to see you again. The 9k will probably improve when you lap off some of the top layer. It is not a soaking stone. However, a short soak improves the feedback. These stones leave a unique scratch pattern at the apex. Under magnification it looks like shark teeth. So even after a 9k stone you will have some bite in the edge. I think you need to use the knife in practice to be able to judge the performance of the stone. Compared to a naniwa pro i think this one is closer to a 5k. I have the Morihei 1, 4, 9 and 12k. The 12k feels almost like using a Shiro suita. I use mine mostly for straight razor honing. For knife honing the 4k is my favorite in this series. Unless you are polishing the bevel plane for contrast, i would not use slurry with them. It just damage the apex (just a tip).
I usually lap the my other morihei stones, so i will give it a go, and have a look under the microscope in my next session. AS for the 4k, its in my shelf. And i will be testing it out in a few days i think. :)
Exactly the experience i've had with my 9k. Laping made it even better, i tend to soak it couple of mins as well. I really love the micro tooth, makes it a great last stone for kitchen knives imo.
@@sacoto98 Yes. I have not found any benefits of using slurry on synthetic stones, unless you are using it for polishing the bevel. Some stones can however benefits from a light slurry generated with a natural stone on the synthetic stone. Most of my sharpening is done with straight razors. For knifes it can be a little different, because what makes a straight razor edge good might not apply to a knife.
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 supposed to be one of the best 4k stones out there. I have a imanishi 4k but it's not the best just like my arato 220 which i will replace with a sueshiro 180 debado
Love my King Deluxe stones. I don't have the XL like you have here, but I do have the larger variety. I hadn't seen anyone use an XL Deluxe yet, but seeing this makes me want to get one just because.. Using that Naniwa 150, this King, and the Aotoishi Green Brick could be the "big boy stone" progression! lol Where did you get the Naniwa 150? I have actually looked recently, and found one on Amazon but required shipping from Japan and not local in the US. I am not sure where you are located, but was wondering where you got yours?
Interesting to see how you like it. I like Karasu. Hard stone but not too hard, good feedback and it leaves a nice finish. Not the most powerfull of ny 8-10k stones but definately on the better ones in my collection. I think one cannot go wrong with that one in 8-10k range. It works fine as splash&go. I tend to jump on it from 3-4k stone after 1k. I like to open it up a bit with 400 atoma to get a bit of slurry like with most stones that are not muddy.
They are a bit pricey yes. But a dream to work on. But you do get good stones for cheaper as well, if its any comfort 😀 the diamond plate is an atoma 140 😁
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 well, that shapton pro 120 and 220 was exactly what i had before. got a pink brick due to recommendations and it's everything i dont want lol. maybe i just have to buy the same old again😅
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Nice to see you again. The 9k will probably improve when you lap off some of the top layer. It is not a soaking stone. However, a short soak improves the feedback. These stones leave a unique scratch pattern at the apex. Under magnification it looks like shark teeth. So even after a 9k stone you will have some bite in the edge. I think you need to use the knife in practice to be able to judge the performance of the stone. Compared to a naniwa pro i think this one is closer to a 5k. I have the Morihei 1, 4, 9 and 12k. The 12k feels almost like using a Shiro suita. I use mine mostly for straight razor honing. For knife honing the 4k is my favorite in this series. Unless you are polishing the bevel plane for contrast, i would not use slurry with them. It just damage the apex (just a tip).
I usually lap the my other morihei stones, so i will give it a go, and have a look under the microscope in my next session. AS for the 4k, its in my shelf. And i will be testing it out in a few days i think. :)
Exactly the experience i've had with my 9k. Laping made it even better, i tend to soak it couple of mins as well. I really love the micro tooth, makes it a great last stone for kitchen knives imo.
When you say to don't make a slurry, you mean that for the 4k or the 9k?
@@sacoto98 Yes. I have not found any benefits of using slurry on synthetic stones, unless you are using it for polishing the bevel. Some stones can however benefits from a light slurry generated with a natural stone on the synthetic stone. Most of my sharpening is done with straight razors. For knifes it can be a little different, because what makes a straight razor edge good might not apply to a knife.
@@jpo31The shapton pro 5k is much better with its own slurry (generated using the atoma 400). A completely new experience.
Congratulations - you finally got it!
Finally :D
Welcome back, while I may not have need for the Karasu at the moment the 4k is calling my name, heard it is really good 4k stone.
Well I actually have one. I never tried it, and I just might do a first impressions on that as well 😁
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 Please do! I'm in the same boat as e30Birdy.
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 supposed to be one of the best 4k stones out there. I have a imanishi 4k but it's not the best just like my arato 220 which i will replace with a sueshiro 180 debado
Love my King Deluxe stones. I don't have the XL like you have here, but I do have the larger variety. I hadn't seen anyone use an XL Deluxe yet, but seeing this makes me want to get one just because.. Using that Naniwa 150, this King, and the Aotoishi Green Brick could be the "big boy stone" progression! lol
Where did you get the Naniwa 150? I have actually looked recently, and found one on Amazon but required shipping from Japan and not local in the US. I am not sure where you are located, but was wondering where you got yours?
Interesting to see how you like it. I like Karasu. Hard stone but not too hard, good feedback and it leaves a nice finish. Not the most powerfull of ny 8-10k stones but definately on the better ones in my collection. I think one cannot go wrong with that one in 8-10k range.
It works fine as splash&go. I tend to jump on it from 3-4k stone after 1k. I like to open it up a bit with 400 atoma to get a bit of slurry like with most stones that are not muddy.
Great to see you back!
Thanks man. Good to be back as well 👊
nice stone, lovely pattern. What about the morihei 4k? Can you do some wide-bevel polishing?
Definately. The 4k is on my shelf waiting for the next video. So pretty soon if i can get around to it :)
I’d love to try a Morihei stone but unfortunately they are a bit too pricey for me 😢 what grit diamond plate do you use?
They are a bit pricey yes. But a dream to work on. But you do get good stones for cheaper as well, if its any comfort 😀 the diamond plate is an atoma 140 😁
i need a new low grit repair stone that doesn't dish easily. 120grit range. any ideas?
Well the shapton pro's are pretty hard. So that could be worth looking into. I prefer the 320, but they do come in 120 as well 😀
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 well, that shapton pro 120 and 220 was exactly what i had before. got a pink brick due to recommendations and it's everything i dont want lol. maybe i just have to buy the same old again😅
@Michael Schwarz check out the suehiro LD 21. It's 180 grit and a really decent size if you want to try something else :)
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 have you tried the nanohone bonded diamonds yet? they have a 100micron plate that looks interesting 🤔
@@glashausAimz2 I heard expensive things about them, but unfortunately i havent had the pleasure yet.
I love it.
Loving it❤
Do you actually know if the Morihei 9000 has been discontinued ?
It doesn't appear so. I know this comment was 1 year ago, but I have seen it for sale recently and have thought about picking it up.
@@DroneShotFPV Thanks !
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