only at the lower levels of diamond tbh, there are a lot of pro players that are in diamond just because they prefer scrims than solo queue or players in diamond that will become challengers if they just put more effort, since both ranks can sometimes play at the same queue but, of course, challengers are better because of minor things that will make a huge impact at the end of the game
@@MichaelChen-xk3gjthe ones that are in diamond are actually either decayed or don’t play soloq on said acc that often but have challenger mmr As a pro player atleast on NA the team MAKES the players climb in soloq to be challenger and if they fall below it they basically aren’t allowed to play or get scolded by the managers
@Shonkhor you loose because you are not good enough to carry. Every single gold player can climb out of this elo within 10 games. If you start on a new account you wouldn't get placed in bronze at all if you are playing at gold level or above
I completely agree with Shonk, i feel like i play like a gold+ but i'm hardstuck in low elo because of either bad teammates who feed, or enemies who play really stupidly and don't get punished
I am smurfing with new account like 2-4 times a year and I have to tell you... times have changed drastically. When I started in season 5, bronze and silver players didnt even know what a ward is. Now you can see silver players actually doing macro rotations, 131, objective callings and other things and generally speaking the level of knowledge has improved in all divisions over the years. I know low elo players are still really bad in the game but Its not so tragic anymore and you can test it on your own. Its interesting to see it.
Maybe you're getting rusty, I boosted my friend from hardstuck bronze last season (9lp per win in the beginning) to gold 4 in less than 50 games, winning 45 of them and playing offrole champs I don't usually play. And I'm just diamond. The difference between gold 4 and plat is massive. Before I hit diamond this season, having a gold 3-4 player in lobby full of plat2+ players (it happens, shit matchmaking) is trully sad to watch. The guy is completely lost and you can tell it's not fun for him
It's just the trickle down effect in action, the better players get at the high elos, low elos will see it and emulate it which in turn makes the low elos better. Knowledge in everything from video games to sciences is and will always be trickled down.
Kinda hate you for smurfing since smurfs are one of the reasons this game is getting ruined (I'm getting a carrying smurf every 3 ganes out of 5 basically). But I completely agree. Back when I started I was bronze and didn't know anything (like everyone else). Now (even if I gathered some skill and knowledge) I face stronger opponents than what I see in gold/plats games, even in the same elo (bronze). I think macro things like freezing and roaming should be from low gold onward tbh, but a lot of people here in low elo manage to pull them out
8 tips for climbing from someone who has done it since season 1: But first: Getting a lot of comments asking, "what rank are you", and ones specifically arguing with the points I've made. I mentioned it in the comments, but I'm master this season on my main (it's linked in the comments below if you care to look), I've taken a step back from League recently to focus on IRL things, so I won't be climbing much going forward, will probably decay a lot. I've been as high as Grandmaster before. As for your disagreements, I don't care what a hard stuck silver thinks, and no, you aren't high elo if you are gold/plat, and you aren't good at climbing. These tips are aimed for Iron - Silver players who make up the vast majority of ranked players, things that I've seen as common issues in their play. If you think you are above these tips in some way, then fine. But that doesn't mean they aren't correct. For everyone else who just wants to read some tips about climbing, these are for you: 1. Make sure you can run the game at 60fps AT LEAST. If you can't, consider an upgrade to your PC. It doesn't take much to run league at 60. 2. Use hard wired ethernet connection, wifi is significantly worse. (this is probably the biggest offender for a lot of players). 3. The game is ALL about macro, this means decisions you make around objectives/lanes. study lane freezing/pushing, rotating, roaming, jungle paths, ward placements, etc. If you are lost on this topic watch high elo streamers play and see what they do. 9 times out of 10 they are doing the right thing in this regard. Look at how the game reacts to that play vs how your games play out. How did the minion waves look. Watch where they stand in lane during times they have great warding in the side bushes compared to when they don't. This is far more important than being able to kill your opponents in lane, riot killed that part of the game YEARS ago. It's a passive macro game to climb now. This follows into the next tip, which is even more important. 4. LOOK AT YOUR MINIMAP. constantly. I mean ALL OF THE TIME. Every few seconds glance down at it, check your wards and see if you see anybody, then check the other lanes where your teammates are and see if you can account for all of the enemies. If you can't see the jungler and you haven't seen him for a while, play safe. Even if you have a potential kill on your hands. This goes for the other enemy laners as well. This game is so snowball-y that all it takes is for you to get caught slipping ONCE during an enemy roam/gank and you lose your tower, and then the game. 5. Itemization. This is the BIGGEST one. Don't just follow cookie cutter builds online. Those builds are pointless to look at because 9 times out of 10 they are general purpose builds that don't account for what you could be facing. For example, as a marksman, don't build kraken into an enemy team full of assassins, even with the nerf shieldbow will save your life. But if you don't see assassins and they have more tanks. For the love of all that is holy build a kraken. If you see the enemy team is bopping with a ton of auto-attack damage, build that damn steelplated boots. Be willing to pivot your build to counter your opponents champs. Oh, and if you are the one with the gold/kills. Please build an IE/Rabadons. These "damage booster" items are NECESSARY to carry. They are worth at least 1 and a half items at least. I would get these items 3rd if you can. DO NOT BUILD BLOODTHIRSTER 1ST OR SECOND ON ANY CHAMP FOR ANY REASON. That item is great later on for sustain, but it has no attack speed, and only OK ad. It gives you very little damage for it's cost. You hit like a wet noodle with it and you might as well not even be attacking. If you need lifesteal that badly pick up a bork. It's slightly less but it gives attack speed AND a damage proc. It might be not have crit but it has enough innate damage to make up the difference. Still, if you listened to my early advice you would already have a shieldbow for survivability in these games and you could focus on getting damage items at this point. 6. Your teammates are going to be bad. That's normal. You can't stop them from making bad plays, but you might be able to save those bad plays from being worse. If your team is going to group for an objective that they obviously can't win think of what your next decision should be. Do you have access to a nearby objective you can take by yourself to offset what's about to happen? 4 deaths (1200 gold) and a lost objective, maybe a dragon/baron are big losses but if you can take a tower or 2 in a lane and open up the game that forces the enemy to send players to stabilize that lane, effectively stripping some of that loss away for your team. If you don't think you can have that kind of impact, aka the towers are too high health you aren't a great tower/killing champ then go help your team, be the reason they win that stupid fight. 7. Play the meta. It's meta for a reason. Look at the best meta champs, find the ones that are simplest/ you are most comfortable on and stick to them. Don't play the flashy high skill champs, even if you think are you good at the game you won't always be playing at 100% and then those games YOU will be your team's liability. No need to bring on extra losses you can avoid by simply picking easy champs. 8. And finally, play a LOT of games. Climbing involves a lot of RNG due to bad players being placed on your team, and some games you won't be playing well. That's all fine and normal. You have to play a lot of games to climb. Even Tyler1 took multiple months of playing all day every day to climb to challenger and he's actually already good at the game. If you only play a game or 2 a day, you won't climb. If you don't think you can dedicate the amount of time I'm talking about here to the game, climbing in ranked probably isn't for you, and that's ok. I have way more fun playing ARAMs than I EVER have playing ranked, and a ton of people are only aram these days. Remember, if climbing isn't fun for you it probably isn't FOR you. And that's ok. It's definitely not a healthy lifestyle. Playing the game for fun is definitely more rewarding anyway. Edit: The meta is the meta for the reason, ignore it if you wish but it won't end well for you. The amount of people who successfully one trick non-meta champs are few and far between, and if you are at the level where you need these tips, respectfully, you aren't one of those few players. At least not yet. Edit 2: Seeing a lot of hot takes in these comments, if you are seriously interested in climbing, I wouldn't read them. They are incredibly short sited.
I like all your points, but not the Meta pick one, thats the classic temp elo players. I think its more important to just have your 2-3 Champs maybe something for any Enemy Set-up, you wont be able to carry a game as an Assassin if the enemys have 3 tanks. And just spamm your 2-3 Champs you will learn all the matchups and the way you have to play them.
@@dmi6778 respecting meta is definitely a crucial part of playing ranked games. Hard spamming 2-3 champs is also crucial for most players. Combining them, you get the result of spamming 2-3 meta champs.
I started playing on bronze account when I transfered my main on Thailand server for free loot. Gold wasn't all that bad but bronze and silver... Their mental strenght is so low they'll either start trolling or go afk as soon as someone takes 2 minions from their lane.
They freeze the lane then the jg decided to face check grubs even tho top has no prior dies and then top gets 3 man dived, mid decided to gank bot while top gets dived and just gets triple killed by jhin
@@Charuid The difference here is that silver are mostly casuals players, they dont play very often, don't take the game seriously and some have pc/connection issues (quite the same thing as what was said about irons) while platinums are mostly the opposite They are more likely to have players who play 5+ games per day without climbing
@@reyxo4657 I mean, platinum is indeed a hellish elo, you need to be considerably better than your peers to get out of it since everyone there dominates the basics of the game, except macro. Game used to change a lot in diamond but Idk cause I played there when there were no grandmaster bullshit so climbing diamond wasn't as "easy" as today
@@mafioso_nicho Depends. Most people won’t improve by playing enough Aram because they are playing Aram for fun 90% and barely focusing in it. Nonetheless, if you actually play Aram mindfully and with the focus to improve at your gameplay, it does help you mechanically a lot. Even TheShy said this.
@@SirArtorias The problem is that by playing ARAM, map awareness goes down as mechanics go up - I'm seeing it from experience now that I'm returning to normals. I also often find it difficult to assess potential damage in 1v1 and 2v2, I keep losing lane because I underestimate damage from both me, my allies and my opponents, so I'm overly passive and tend to not fight when I should because I can't recognize when I can actually pick kills.
As a Silver player that has played in iron, i can say, iron is way better than silver, in silver everyone thinks its a pro player that cant climb because got bad teammates, but in iron? Nobody cares, the players pick whatever it likes and focus on fun instead of blaming everyone, i much prefer the iron rank than the silver that i belongs now =(
i played some games in iron and bronze because thats probably my rank (havent played enough to know where i would be stuck) but they mostly think they are better than what they are.
As someone who recently started playing ranked again and landed in bronze it's the same here lmao. Literally players standing at base telling other people how to play their champs while their lane is being pushed in. It's like somehow the increase in game knowledge has everyone hooked up to turn the in game chat into a discord debate instead of playing the game.
The lack of map awareness is very significant in silver based on my experience a lot of my teammates have and had “map blindness” meaning the don’t look the map often for champions and pings or not at all. No matter how many times I try to make a cross map play [taking towers and dragons (if I am bot side)] or try for a roam or flank it’s simply not enough because of “map blindness” for the most part and not knowing what to do or knowing but not doing for whatever reason (griefing).
Yeah, this. I recently started playing ranked and it’s painful that laners don’t ping when the enemy roams, or the supports don’t put up vision on objectives/gank angles. And they’re definitely not helping with objectives (even though I play a champion that can’t solo them early on)
This is pretty accurate. However, two things worth noting: Mental; Not everyone has a strong mental. Some Master players Might be Grandmaster or even Challenger level, but they have terrible mental are easily tilted, and crack under pressure. This is a VERY big deal. - Champion one tricks; One tricks are a problem. I've had one guy who was Platinum (In normal draft pick game) Absolutely stomped my team and gave me hell. Next match his champ got banned. Guess what? I felt like i was fighting a new player... He had no idea what he's doing The combos were terrible, he couldnt gank for shit, and just like that we won one of the easiest games ever. - Which is why many people will always tell you, reduce your champion pool as much as you can but dont stick to just one champion. you should have AT LEAST 2 champions you are confident with and have two roles you can play well. And finally, YOUR MENTAL... Don't tilt easily, keep calm dont perma ff over anything and everything, dont flame your teammates OR yourself. Besides that, enjoy the game friends, and remember, it really is just a game, dont let a defeat ruin your day! :)
@@Illuminat-ve5ue it is. im "One tricking" Viego at the moment. About 700k~ mastery scattered over accounts, with 500k ish in main. but i can play Morde and Volibear really well, so with 2 reliable, and one i excel at im in a good spot basically. that is of course if you care about "ranking" and not just enjoying your game xD
@@Illuminat-ve5ue feel like one tricking is mostly fun because having a big champion pool isnt rewarded in solo queue setting, being basicaly unbanable is a true power feeling, but something u would only experience in pro or maybe clash
Gold player here. Hi, I am in gold. It's rough out here to witness your team throw late game because everyone is trying to be the hero, dies, then creates an unwinnable 4v5 or 3v5 scenario because the end game death timers are like 45 seconds +.
@@zalibassga competitive in Brazil is known to be the one that produces the most content, there are channels on youtube that only serve to summarize the competitive matches with memes
Last year, they chose a day to call it Robsday, and many people on twitter posted a picture of a pro player (called Robo, also known as Robs) to cheer for their team
I was watching a podcast of broken by concept 2 great coaches and they were explaining how hard it is to get a master elo student and push him to challenger, all this year before listening to they're words i just thought master to chall is like a little Push from plat 1 to d4 but they said imagine taking a student at iron 4 and push him to gold 1 thats the LP equivalent but it's actually 10 times more difficult cause you already fighting amazing player's to win . Whoever is trying to get challenger or is already challenger has my respects
Well yeah, that's called the learning curve. The difference between a master and challenger is miniscule - there's a bigger gap between Iron 3 and Iron 4 - but to make up for that difference takes a gargantuan amount of time. And it isn't a stationary target: the guy ahead of you is also improving his game. Given the tiny player base at that level, it is way harder to climb from master to challenger than it would be to go from Platinum to Diamond.
Depends. Games are hella coinflip nowadays. You can be doing god's work and 1 loser on your team can throw the entire game out of his own ego and you can be the worst on your team and still win because you've got carried. The higher you climb the more team dependent the game gets.
Plat in my experience has been where everyone has mastered mechanics. I've had a lot of matches where I underestimate someone, and then suddenly I get my teeth kicked in and think "they champion can do that wtf?" Map awareness is still bad most games but you can tell many people made it to plat through sheer mechanics alone
That's also my experience. People play just outright brainless with way too much ego in plat. Sometimes their mechanics carry them but especially after laning phase you see how clueless about macro managing a lot of players are. I mean small things like recalling at the right time or freezing only starts at mid plat constantly.
@@derKischda dawg high plat and low plat are pretty much exactly the same, high plat just got lucky and got good teams to climb. once you get out of plat there's a difference
@@derKischda the ego in plat is insane dude I agree. Everyone thinks they're diamond and are being held back by their teammates, while displaying the WORST macro the world has ever seen
@@hayden6700 In my experience as a professional plat surfer (":D"), the difference between low and high plat is insane when you take into account that the difference in percentage of players is quite small. Low plat macro is often abysmal while high plats are often very comparable to dia players who already have okay macro (as well as mechanics, of course).
He forgot to mention the egos of the diamons player, it's truly a sight to watch. On a first blood for the ennemy team, half of your team leaves the game. Now this is another universe 😂
im a mid master tier player playing with my friends in plat on a smurf account and let me tell ya plat has WAY BIGGER ego issues than diamond... these pisslows think they are actually good at the game they cant play towards their wincon everyone tries to be a carry there everyone is perma typing every fucking draven in plat decides to run it after they get 2v2d and so on... plat is just a different breed
@@johandrunkbaba Hell naw. Low diamond is living hell 💀💀💀. Dudes lose their sanity from the smallest sh1t. Like they are absolutely never wrong and if you don't do as they say or play alongside their egos they will intentionally throw without a second thought
Fr the game without ranked is more fun, normal games and aram 🛐🛐🛐 edit: my opinion changed, i'm a low elo player and when i go into rankeds i see many funny shi
EUW Plat is where the Kassadin, Talon and Evelynn mains go to have a mental breakdown every few weeks or so just to do it all over again and again and again and again until the one day they actually reach 100 games before a permaban
I like that he suggests that for most ranks, the ranks below them are low ELO. Sadly I started out as a support main, and never learned how to farm so the highest I've ever gone is Silver. Hello from near the bottom.
@@paulb5571 All it takes to climb is just playing better than your role opponent more often than worse than them. Stay strong if you wish to climb. The results will come as you improve your fundamentals.
For those who say that the gap between lets say D2 and Challanger is massive are at the same time wrong and correct. How? Well, if you look at rank and skill progression you will notice that they are huge gaps between each ranks from iron up to low diamond, but those are gaps that can be easily improved on by fixing a major gameplay issue each player has. In D2 to Challenger its a little bit different. Since the mastery of the game is already on a high level everything that is left are just minor improvements that eventually can give big results (for example a jump in rank from D2 to Masters), but this obvsly doesnt mean that those are easy things to do, especially since its really hard to spot those gameplay failures on your own in the first place.
I hit gm this season but my map awareness needs some work. Only when I tryhard on my main I look at the map and track the enemy jg . When I'm playing with friends it's indeed a different game
what?? there is NO WAY you are telling me that you hit gm as a JUNGLER with BAD map awareness and unless you tryhard you dont even track the enemy jungler???? "A JUNGLER" with bad map awareness
silver is a mine field, im the s3-4 area its either 50% someone who just started and got lucky to not be placed in bronze, 25% someone afk or dcs 15% actual silver player 10% someone whos probably gold 1/2 or above skill level
Ur getting bullied only by miserable plat peakers or smth. My friend was top 50 chall like 5 years ago and every time someone recognized the backpack he got nothing but respect
every season I fight to get into gold IV, then take a break before falling back into silver. It's always this huge win streak that gets me in, and then I go into limbo going back and forth between gold and silver, or silver I and silver II
The thing with lower ranks such as silver is that they watch micro and macro guide vids on youtube, and immediately after then spam the actions of said videos. These actions sound and seem high leveled but 9 times out of 10 it was in the wrong situation and doesn't go as planned most of the time.
Becoming a jg main has been my greatest decision for climbing, since all i do is watch the map, and play my One trick, skarner, who is one of the top 5 best JG's in my elo.
Just your average Diamond player with S+ mechanics, nothing out of the ordinary! Matter of fact, I think peak mechanical competence is achieved around Gold III. I once saw Faker playing Vladimir get solo-killed by a G4 Brand with Ignite, so my theory is pretty much confirmed at this point. I also agree with map awareness being the only other relevant indicator of skill, although 'copying professional players without applying critical thinking' could arguably be added as a third category.
Honestly as a low elo player, I think my map awareness and decision making is better than my mechanics. i usually lose or go even in lane but then catch up later cuz i play with my buddies who are higher elo and it’s easier to pick up on map awareness versus mechanics from others.
As a measly 100 lp master peaker , the gap between top 50 chall and master is bigger than the gap between plat and master imo. I managed to gap players up to GM , chall players however it feels like they play a different game ( in scrims , i realise they run it down in solo Q from time to time just like anyone else )
your statements about platinum is perfect, been there 7 years ago and for now I just want to play for fun but sometimes I like to play in competition which is rank since I lost my main acc
I came back after like 4 years of no league. My peak was gold 1. Im now hardstuck silver 1-2 Tbh the game feels the same. Just theres always 1 player on your team or the other that is clearly a tad bit ahead of the curb. And people are very prone to fighting for no reason. Its likely due to map awareness. If 5 are alive and your alone bot, the top laner is top, and 4 of them are missing and your midlaner based, you probably shouldnt even think of pushing the wave unless you got some deep vision lmfao.
for me it's been 2 years as a platinum player, I really can't climb the diamond because it's kinda a maze or prison, 70% bad team, and 30% my bad gameplay, someday I will get out of that elo.
thats why you're hardstuck "bad team" you're just not good enough you watch players who are ACTUALLY good like TFBlade he does a lot of 99% wr challenges and he's practically living proof that even the worse teams can be carried if you're good enough
@@thetrollerinc4943 why u compare to tf there are some games that are uncarriable for the average player it's probably a small percent of games you ll likely have but still
Iron: there is a fourth option, qualification didn't put you hier because bad luck, and you are forced to play with other players that fit first 3 problems
Will happily trade silver accounts for a bronze account with you - there isn't that much of a baseline in bronze so you only need to be good at a few things to climb. Becomes a lot more annoying when you have coin flip games in gold+ where enemies start to play around the fed carry
I am a low gold mmr player (sometimes silver 1) and I suck mechanically compared to my peers. But watching content online has helped me so much to climb to this rank.
As someone who started 2 seasons ago, but only played like 15 ranked games my first season and got placed in iron 3, then last season i really started playing and got placed iron 2 went to iron 3 again and ended the season in silver 3. Now this season i'm 35 ranked games in and got placed bronze 4 cause i played my placements on day 1 of the season (rookie mistake), just casually playing some games i'm already back to bronze 1 about to hit silver 4 with ease. I can see the big difference in how i've improved and also the big difference in bronze to silver lol. I know i'm low elo but its a big difference between bronze and silver is pretty crazy, i feel in most of my low elo bronze matches, i have to babysit a lot and damn do people hate listening to others (ignoring pings, ect..) Everyone is so egotistical for no reason lol.
I mean yeah, i can tell you are low elo, you have obvi improved if you could make it to silver since like you said the difference is pretty noticable where i personally think the difference between bronze and iron is non-existing but if you want to reach gold firstly you will notice that the difference between g4-g3 is not very different from s1-s2 but VERY different from low silver, another thing is that it sounds a lot like you are playing jungle since you are talking about babysitting, but as a jungle main myself I can ensure you that you should never do that, playing for your team as the jungler ussually isnt the best. And if you happen to not play jungle then still dont babysit play for yourself and dont trust your bad team ofc giving a kill or 2 is not bad if they are palying a carry champ and you are not, this is also unless you play supp ofc
When they say challenger is a whole another game you have to believe it. It's why there is a "SUPER SERVER" that exists in China only to house the very top. Because their knowledge, mechanics, macro and micro play are nearly impeccable. The very high summit of skill in this game takes HOURS to analyze their games to full extension, as they play almost like bots, making no mistakes whatsoever and almost every time they engage it's a toss up who will win. Seeing that is pure beauty.
Lots of people saying about macro being the major difference between lower and higher elo players... Well, macro in league is quite easy, especially in random soloq games, it really is mechanics that makes most difference between like challenger and diamond player. If you look at the replays of games you lose, you can tell SOME mechanical mistake you make in pretty much every fight, a mistake which probably decided if you end up winning or losing the game. Sure, you can't see macro that easy, it's not so obvious, but macro only requires simple solutions of you, it's mostly mechanics that determines if you lose your game or not. And by mechanics I obviously mean more things than just landing your skillshots, it's also positioning, kiting, remembering enemy cooldowns, losing minion aggro, jungle clearing, camera control and many more. This is why korea is so much better at the game, they tend to open games early on if only someone dies so they must have great mechanics in order for their team not to lose morale. Many streamers who played in korea (e.g, thebaus, tyler) also said that their macro is actually average but their mechanics are great, even in lower ranks like plat or diamond. One thing that makes huge difference tho is wave management, but I wouldn't be so certain to call it macro since it doesn't really change the way you move around the map
As someone who is playing league for the first time and just ranked gold at level 30, I can tell you that people of this rank seem to think that their team doesn't matter and we're all enemies.
Only change I would make is that map awareness is generally lower in plat than gold. Most onetricks peak here because of mechanical skill, not game sense.
The worst thing about low elo, is that every match is a coinflip. It doesn't matter, how good you are, faker couldn't carry an iron game, because it depends on the enemy team. How stupid they are, how many smurfs are there...
Bronze and Iron truly are on another level of enlightenment. Just living life enjoying a game for fun goofing around doing whatever, whilst everyone else in higher ranks tryhards until they diehard.
I fluctuate high gold low platinum and I can tell you the reason is because I exclusively play on the weekends when drinking and refuse to go out on a loss.
As a gold player, definitely the players dont understand that they need the entire team to win the game is very true. Like most of my games, my teammates, mostly top and jungle always go solo even in mid to late game. They always play depends on what they want to do and usually doesn’t have any participation in objective control and teamfights. If they got lucky they usually 1v9 the whole game but thats very rare.
As someone that played in average 400lp master lobbies last season and is currently master 1lp (Swapped role from jg to supp) i can say that d1 till gm is basically all the same games, like same errors and same players
Bcs elo and player distribution arent complementary. Elo is ur skill and game knowledge made into a number. The higher the elo is, the bigger is the difference in skill between them. For example the difference between plat and dia is 100x smaller than between dia and masters. Even tho plat players are in like 15% of player distribution that doesnt change the fact that their understanding of the game is bad. For example d4 and d1 are technically the in the same rank but the difference in skill is so large that some high elo players even consider d4 low elo while d1 is respetable. For example g4 and g1 are literally the same thing cuz the elo is so low that a few hundred points up ir down doesnt change much
I've been playing this game for 3 years, and I've never used ranked, I only play normal mode, because there I can play with the characters I want instead of having to play meta and other ridiculous things
This depends on server to server today. Before, Gold felt like... Gold. Today, Gold, Plat and even Emerald feels like I'm playing together with Bronze and Silver players.
plat is like a wizard organization, their techniques are fucking insane. I play top and got to diamond in season 10 and promoted to masters for about a few weeks before inting my way back. During the time i have seen so many plats in my games (might be because of my fucked up elo) who dance using champs like lee sin and shit as if it was something they have been doing for 30 years
It's not just that gold players (by and large) haven't yet figured out that they have to play as a team to win, they actively resist the idea and are out to prove that no they don't. The whole concept still offends them.
A very good supp is usually more stronger of it's rank (a bronze can be strong as a gold rank) , you get walled hard in bronze/silver if you are a main supp bc you need your team to win, you can't do much alone in many games, even if you try your best or you pick a champ that can do damage
As a Diamond 2 player i think you gave to much credit to the lower elos mechanical skills, i 100% agreed that until diamond 3 everybody is trash, this is my 3 season and im ayming to get to masters and i problably will because at this point i think that your macro is what wins u games if u improve that u will climb
i think they should add more ranks like stone , rubble, dirt :D and maybe paper . it would be only fair if you think about the player counts in the lower ranks (like 60%+ iron-gold)
I'm usually around bronze because I end up quitting lol for months/years every now and then. What annoys me most is that most matches are decided by 1-2 players on a team going afk, running it down on purpose, picking champs they can't play at all and so on. The elo being what it is, it's also very unrewarding to play supports which heavily rely on their adc to get things done compared to ones that can get kills on their own (and farm if the adc does stupid recalls, dies etc.).
So true, I'm stuck in platinum 1 for like 5, 6 seasons, that sucks, but, the thing is that I feel there is a huge wall between platinum 1 and diamond 4, like if I wanna climb I must play like a diamond 2, think that I'm not. I'm saying this because in platinum 1 I was matched with diamond 4 and 3, and felt like regular platinum to me (until disaster strikes and the matches just get really hard and quite unfair) And you are right the difference between a diamond 2 and 3 is so huge
Honestly im a player who probably in all honesty has Diamond mechanics and Macro game, but lacks slightly in map awareness, yet is hardstuck silver/gold since S5 and its awful. I have to say these are good assessments lmao
As an average iron rank enjoyer i confirm my pc is indeed a toaster
No offence but if you’re iron you’re ret@rded
Same. Unfortunately I cannot cook toasts with it. But I've tried to.
How many fps?
@@lobertrox72 Mine is seconds per frame
And your teammates always feeding
i think that the gap between a diamond and a challenger its massive
only at the lower levels of diamond tbh, there are a lot of pro players that are in diamond just because they prefer scrims than solo queue or players in diamond that will become challengers if they just put more effort, since both ranks can sometimes play at the same queue
but, of course, challengers are better because of minor things that will make a huge impact at the end of the game
@@apheliosgaming there is not a single pro player in diamond
@@MichaelChen-xk3gj there are lots
@@MichaelChen-xk3gj not true at all
@@MichaelChen-xk3gjthe ones that are in diamond are actually either decayed or don’t play soloq on said acc that often but have challenger mmr
As a pro player atleast on NA the team MAKES the players climb in soloq to be challenger and if they fall below it they basically aren’t allowed to play or get scolded by the managers
As a bronze player i am both offended and surprised by how true and accurate this was
@Shonkhor you loose because you are not good enough to carry. Every single gold player can climb out of this elo within 10 games. If you start on a new account you wouldn't get placed in bronze at all if you are playing at gold level or above
@@Xy-gx8ou yep I agree
@Shonkhor Do you watch too much Neace?
@Shonkhor just accept you are currently bad and try to get better bro
I completely agree with Shonk, i feel like i play like a gold+ but i'm hardstuck in low elo because of either bad teammates who feed, or enemies who play really stupidly and don't get punished
I am smurfing with new account like 2-4 times a year and I have to tell you... times have changed drastically. When I started in season 5, bronze and silver players didnt even know what a ward is. Now you can see silver players actually doing macro rotations, 131, objective callings and other things and generally speaking the level of knowledge has improved in all divisions over the years. I know low elo players are still really bad in the game but Its not so tragic anymore and you can test it on your own. Its interesting to see it.
Maybe you're getting rusty, I boosted my friend from hardstuck bronze last season (9lp per win in the beginning) to gold 4 in less than 50 games, winning 45 of them and playing offrole champs I don't usually play. And I'm just diamond. The difference between gold 4 and plat is massive. Before I hit diamond this season, having a gold 3-4 player in lobby full of plat2+ players (it happens, shit matchmaking) is trully sad to watch. The guy is completely lost and you can tell it's not fun for him
It's just the trickle down effect in action, the better players get at the high elos, low elos will see it and emulate it which in turn makes the low elos better. Knowledge in everything from video games to sciences is and will always be trickled down.
Kinda hate you for smurfing since smurfs are one of the reasons this game is getting ruined (I'm getting a carrying smurf every 3 ganes out of 5 basically). But I completely agree. Back when I started I was bronze and didn't know anything (like everyone else). Now (even if I gathered some skill and knowledge) I face stronger opponents than what I see in gold/plats games, even in the same elo (bronze). I think macro things like freezing and roaming should be from low gold onward tbh, but a lot of people here in low elo manage to pull them out
True i still remember in old season they banned yasuo alot and dont even know to go for a roam and steal other laner role
Time pass so fast man
bruh im master 150LP and i dont even watch map that pften its actually very easy to climb xD
8 tips for climbing from someone who has done it since season 1:
But first: Getting a lot of comments asking, "what rank are you", and ones specifically arguing with the points I've made. I mentioned it in the comments, but I'm master this season on my main (it's linked in the comments below if you care to look), I've taken a step back from League recently to focus on IRL things, so I won't be climbing much going forward, will probably decay a lot. I've been as high as Grandmaster before. As for your disagreements, I don't care what a hard stuck silver thinks, and no, you aren't high elo if you are gold/plat, and you aren't good at climbing. These tips are aimed for Iron - Silver players who make up the vast majority of ranked players, things that I've seen as common issues in their play. If you think you are above these tips in some way, then fine. But that doesn't mean they aren't correct.
For everyone else who just wants to read some tips about climbing, these are for you:
1. Make sure you can run the game at 60fps AT LEAST. If you can't, consider an upgrade to your PC. It doesn't take much to run league at 60.
2. Use hard wired ethernet connection, wifi is significantly worse. (this is probably the biggest offender for a lot of players).
3. The game is ALL about macro, this means decisions you make around objectives/lanes. study lane freezing/pushing, rotating, roaming, jungle paths, ward placements, etc. If you are lost on this topic watch high elo streamers play and see what they do. 9 times out of 10 they are doing the right thing in this regard. Look at how the game reacts to that play vs how your games play out. How did the minion waves look. Watch where they stand in lane during times they have great warding in the side bushes compared to when they don't. This is far more important than being able to kill your opponents in lane, riot killed that part of the game YEARS ago. It's a passive macro game to climb now. This follows into the next tip, which is even more important.
4. LOOK AT YOUR MINIMAP. constantly. I mean ALL OF THE TIME. Every few seconds glance down at it, check your wards and see if you see anybody, then check the other lanes where your teammates are and see if you can account for all of the enemies. If you can't see the jungler and you haven't seen him for a while, play safe. Even if you have a potential kill on your hands. This goes for the other enemy laners as well. This game is so snowball-y that all it takes is for you to get caught slipping ONCE during an enemy roam/gank and you lose your tower, and then the game.
5. Itemization. This is the BIGGEST one. Don't just follow cookie cutter builds online. Those builds are pointless to look at because 9 times out of 10 they are general purpose builds that don't account for what you could be facing. For example, as a marksman, don't build kraken into an enemy team full of assassins, even with the nerf shieldbow will save your life. But if you don't see assassins and they have more tanks. For the love of all that is holy build a kraken. If you see the enemy team is bopping with a ton of auto-attack damage, build that damn steelplated boots. Be willing to pivot your build to counter your opponents champs. Oh, and if you are the one with the gold/kills. Please build an IE/Rabadons. These "damage booster" items are NECESSARY to carry. They are worth at least 1 and a half items at least. I would get these items 3rd if you can. DO NOT BUILD BLOODTHIRSTER 1ST OR SECOND ON ANY CHAMP FOR ANY REASON. That item is great later on for sustain, but it has no attack speed, and only OK ad. It gives you very little damage for it's cost. You hit like a wet noodle with it and you might as well not even be attacking. If you need lifesteal that badly pick up a bork. It's slightly less but it gives attack speed AND a damage proc. It might be not have crit but it has enough innate damage to make up the difference. Still, if you listened to my early advice you would already have a shieldbow for survivability in these games and you could focus on getting damage items at this point.
6. Your teammates are going to be bad. That's normal. You can't stop them from making bad plays, but you might be able to save those bad plays from being worse. If your team is going to group for an objective that they obviously can't win think of what your next decision should be. Do you have access to a nearby objective you can take by yourself to offset what's about to happen? 4 deaths (1200 gold) and a lost objective, maybe a dragon/baron are big losses but if you can take a tower or 2 in a lane and open up the game that forces the enemy to send players to stabilize that lane, effectively stripping some of that loss away for your team. If you don't think you can have that kind of impact, aka the towers are too high health you aren't a great tower/killing champ then go help your team, be the reason they win that stupid fight.
7. Play the meta. It's meta for a reason. Look at the best meta champs, find the ones that are simplest/ you are most comfortable on and stick to them. Don't play the flashy high skill champs, even if you think are you good at the game you won't always be playing at 100% and then those games YOU will be your team's liability. No need to bring on extra losses you can avoid by simply picking easy champs.
8. And finally, play a LOT of games. Climbing involves a lot of RNG due to bad players being placed on your team, and some games you won't be playing well. That's all fine and normal. You have to play a lot of games to climb. Even Tyler1 took multiple months of playing all day every day to climb to challenger and he's actually already good at the game. If you only play a game or 2 a day, you won't climb. If you don't think you can dedicate the amount of time I'm talking about here to the game, climbing in ranked probably isn't for you, and that's ok. I have way more fun playing ARAMs than I EVER have playing ranked, and a ton of people are only aram these days. Remember, if climbing isn't fun for you it probably isn't FOR you. And that's ok. It's definitely not a healthy lifestyle. Playing the game for fun is definitely more rewarding anyway.
Edit: The meta is the meta for the reason, ignore it if you wish but it won't end well for you. The amount of people who successfully one trick non-meta champs are few and far between, and if you are at the level where you need these tips, respectfully, you aren't one of those few players. At least not yet.
Edit 2: Seeing a lot of hot takes in these comments, if you are seriously interested in climbing, I wouldn't read them. They are incredibly short sited.
Damn only 3 likes
I like all your points, but not the Meta pick one, thats the classic temp elo players. I think its more important to just have your 2-3 Champs maybe something for any Enemy Set-up, you wont be able to carry a game as an Assassin if the enemys have 3 tanks. And just spamm your 2-3 Champs you will learn all the matchups and the way you have to play them.
@@dmi6778 respecting meta is definitely a crucial part of playing ranked games.
Hard spamming 2-3 champs is also crucial for most players.
Combining them, you get the result of spamming 2-3 meta champs.
Sorry, ill continue playing Yone jungle and Nasus Ap
thanks for the tips!!!
I'm gold 2 and the amount of games that I lost because someone quits and/or the entire teams surrenders at 16 with scaling champions is astounding 💀
I started playing on bronze account when I transfered my main on Thailand server for free loot. Gold wasn't all that bad but bronze and silver... Their mental strenght is so low they'll either start trolling or go afk as soon as someone takes 2 minions from their lane.
The only difference between your team and the opponent's team.. is you. Riot isn't sabotaging you by planting quitters into your team.
The master one is pretty accurate, you see the same 10 people depending at which time you play.
As if you would know 🫠
@@MathiasGr. as a matter of fact, i do. im D1 right now "afgani jihadi" on eune.
@@darknessdash1853 that’s like plat4 on euw
@@MathiasGr. sure keep coping...
I'm master on multiple accounts and it's very true, my porofessor mostly shows the "recently played with" icon on all 9 players
I don't think bro realised that iron players nowadays be freezing lanes and shi
They freeze the lane then the jg decided to face check grubs even tho top has no prior dies and then top gets 3 man dived, mid decided to gank bot while top gets dived and just gets triple killed by jhin
i'm surprised how you've been able to detail every elo with the most reasonable and consistency speech, i sub on this video
Cmon look at how he rubbed the back of low elo to then increasingly only talk about the problems of higher elo + useless shit. Dont get baited ^^
@@intuition_lol1 Yeah lmao. And saying plat has the most hardstuck players when most people are silver? Like wth.
@@Charuid maybe he talk about %
@@Charuid
The difference here is that silver are mostly casuals players, they dont play very often, don't take the game seriously and some have pc/connection issues (quite the same thing as what was said about irons) while platinums are mostly the opposite
They are more likely to have players who play 5+ games per day without climbing
@@reyxo4657 I mean, platinum is indeed a hellish elo, you need to be considerably better than your peers to get out of it since everyone there dominates the basics of the game, except macro.
Game used to change a lot in diamond but Idk cause I played there when there were no grandmaster bullshit so climbing diamond wasn't as "easy" as today
i can confirm the plat elo ego theory
And then there is "no rank" people like me try to play league of legends just for fun with my 4 premade
And we either play shit or grandmaster-like theres no in between
@@LuridAlchemist trueeee
@Rekkles That’s not even remotely correct.
@@mafioso_nicho Depends. Most people won’t improve by playing enough Aram because they are playing Aram for fun 90% and barely focusing in it. Nonetheless, if you actually play Aram mindfully and with the focus to improve at your gameplay, it does help you mechanically a lot. Even TheShy said this.
@@SirArtorias The problem is that by playing ARAM, map awareness goes down as mechanics go up - I'm seeing it from experience now that I'm returning to normals. I also often find it difficult to assess potential damage in 1v1 and 2v2, I keep losing lane because I underestimate damage from both me, my allies and my opponents, so I'm overly passive and tend to not fight when I should because I can't recognize when I can actually pick kills.
As a Silver player that has played in iron, i can say, iron is way better than silver, in silver everyone thinks its a pro player that cant climb because got bad teammates, but in iron? Nobody cares, the players pick whatever it likes and focus on fun instead of blaming everyone, i much prefer the iron rank than the silver that i belongs now =(
i played some games in iron and bronze because thats probably my rank (havent played enough to know where i would be stuck) but they mostly think they are better than what they are.
As someone who recently started playing ranked again and landed in bronze it's the same here lmao. Literally players standing at base telling other people how to play their champs while their lane is being pushed in. It's like somehow the increase in game knowledge has everyone hooked up to turn the in game chat into a discord debate instead of playing the game.
I agree 100%. Iron players are better than silver players.
It's never too late to take up drinking and join the special squad.
The lack of map awareness is very significant in silver based on my experience a lot of my teammates have and had “map blindness” meaning the don’t look the map often for champions and pings or not at all. No matter how many times I try to make a cross map play [taking towers and dragons (if I am bot side)] or try for a roam or flank it’s simply not enough because of “map blindness” for the most part and not knowing what to do or knowing but not doing for whatever reason (griefing).
Yeah, this. I recently started playing ranked and it’s painful that laners don’t ping when the enemy roams, or the supports don’t put up vision on objectives/gank angles. And they’re definitely not helping with objectives (even though I play a champion that can’t solo them early on)
@@carazy123_ you should not rely on teammate pings anyways just look at the minimap
This is pretty accurate. However, two things worth noting:
Mental; Not everyone has a strong mental. Some Master players
Might be Grandmaster or even Challenger level, but they have terrible mental
are easily tilted, and crack under pressure. This is a VERY big deal.
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Champion one tricks; One tricks are a problem. I've had one guy who was Platinum (In normal draft pick game)
Absolutely stomped my team and gave me hell. Next match his champ got banned.
Guess what? I felt like i was fighting a new player... He had no idea what he's doing
The combos were terrible, he couldnt gank for shit, and just like that we won one of the easiest games ever.
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Which is why many people will always tell you, reduce your champion pool as much as you can
but dont stick to just one champion. you should have AT LEAST 2 champions you are confident with
and have two roles you can play well. And finally, YOUR MENTAL... Don't tilt easily, keep calm
dont perma ff over anything and everything, dont flame your teammates OR yourself.
Besides that, enjoy the game friends, and remember, it really is just a game, dont let a defeat
ruin your day! :)
one tricking is fun tho
@@Illuminat-ve5ue it is. im "One tricking" Viego at the moment. About 700k~ mastery scattered over accounts, with 500k ish in main. but i can play Morde and Volibear really well, so with 2 reliable, and one i excel at im in a good spot basically. that is of course if you care about "ranking" and not just enjoying your game xD
@@Illuminat-ve5ue feel like one tricking is mostly fun because having a big champion pool isnt rewarded in solo queue setting, being basicaly unbanable is a true power feeling, but something u would only experience in pro or maybe clash
This is that meme, "Holy shit, I'm high elo" guy while being gold 4
Gold player here. Hi, I am in gold. It's rough out here to witness your team throw late game because everyone is trying to be the hero, dies, then creates an unwinnable 4v5 or 3v5 scenario because the end game death timers are like 45 seconds +.
in Brazil it's D in all ranks, according to the proplayers/streamers
Didn't even know Brazil had its own server - any known pros from there?
@@zalibassga competitive in Brazil is known to be the one that produces the most content, there are channels on youtube that only serve to summarize the competitive matches with memes
Last year, they chose a day to call it Robsday, and many people on twitter posted a picture of a pro player (called Robo, also known as Robs) to cheer for their team
@@zalibassga Robo, Brtt (famous ex-pro) , Brance, TitaN, Tinonwns, Croc, Ceos all these brazilian pros played in a few worlds championships already.
@@anaxagoras9812 yeah all randoms
I was watching a podcast of broken by concept 2 great coaches and they were explaining how hard it is to get a master elo student and push him to challenger, all this year before listening to they're words i just thought master to chall is like a little Push from plat 1 to d4 but they said imagine taking a student at iron 4 and push him to gold 1 thats the LP equivalent but it's actually 10 times more difficult cause you already fighting amazing player's to win . Whoever is trying to get challenger or is already challenger has my respects
Hello, can you please give me the link for the podcast?
It also depends on the region, challenger can be 900 lps... in LAS is 550 lps but in Brasil is 900 LPS 🤠🤠
Well yeah, that's called the learning curve. The difference between a master and challenger is miniscule - there's a bigger gap between Iron 3 and Iron 4 - but to make up for that difference takes a gargantuan amount of time. And it isn't a stationary target: the guy ahead of you is also improving his game. Given the tiny player base at that level, it is way harder to climb from master to challenger than it would be to go from Platinum to Diamond.
@@valentinbonchev7485 its called broken by concept, you can search it up on youtube
Depends. Games are hella coinflip nowadays.
You can be doing god's work and 1 loser on your team can throw the entire game out of his own ego and you can be the worst on your team and still win because you've got carried.
The higher you climb the more team dependent the game gets.
Plat in my experience has been where everyone has mastered mechanics. I've had a lot of matches where I underestimate someone, and then suddenly I get my teeth kicked in and think "they champion can do that wtf?"
Map awareness is still bad most games but you can tell many people made it to plat through sheer mechanics alone
That's also my experience. People play just outright brainless with way too much ego in plat. Sometimes their mechanics carry them but especially after laning phase you see how clueless about macro managing a lot of players are.
I mean small things like recalling at the right time or freezing only starts at mid plat constantly.
@@derKischda dawg high plat and low plat are pretty much exactly the same, high plat just got lucky and got good teams to climb. once you get out of plat there's a difference
@@derKischda the ego in plat is insane dude I agree. Everyone thinks they're diamond and are being held back by their teammates, while displaying the WORST macro the world has ever seen
yeah, there are some Riven one tricks, that don't know how to play league, but they win their lane almost every game.
@@hayden6700 In my experience as a professional plat surfer (":D"), the difference between low and high plat is insane when you take into account that the difference in percentage of players is quite small. Low plat macro is often abysmal while high plats are often very comparable to dia players who already have okay macro (as well as mechanics, of course).
Challenger: The dream of every kid. But everyone has to grown up, and accept reality.
Pathetic...
Embrace the Asian side.
"Gold players could 1v1 someone with a higher elo and win, if they understand the matchup"
Yeah, I know how to mash warwick q, how could you tell?
Why, because of your impeccable hold Q of course
He forgot to mention the egos of the diamons player, it's truly a sight to watch. On a first blood for the ennemy team, half of your team leaves the game. Now this is another universe 😂
plat has extreme more ego than dia.
im a mid master tier player playing with my friends in plat on a smurf account and let me tell ya plat has WAY BIGGER ego issues than diamond... these pisslows think they are actually good at the game they cant play towards their wincon everyone tries to be a carry there everyone is perma typing every fucking draven in plat decides to run it after they get 2v2d and so on... plat is just a different breed
@@johandrunkbaba Hell naw. Low diamond is living hell 💀💀💀.
Dudes lose their sanity from the smallest sh1t. Like they are absolutely never wrong and if you don't do as they say or play alongside their egos they will intentionally throw without a second thought
@@angelg3642 thats why i quit once i reach dia 4, just pain in the ass if i play more. play under 100 games, reach dia 4, leaves, doesnt elaborate
yeah remember the spike in flaming after getting to d3 like years ago hahaha kinda funny
Being a lol player who doesn't rank and who prefers to enjoy the game I see this as an absolute victory 😂
Fr the game without ranked is more fun, normal games and aram 🛐🛐🛐
edit: my opinion changed, i'm a low elo player and when i go into rankeds i see many funny shi
I’m pro at league of legends, but I don’t like playing ranked games that simple, and I’m pro and I don’t play rank
@@irs_mvxxrank destroyed the game, now people are always asking for rank, that why I hate ranked games people their are just toxic
@@khalilalhawai5800 A very large amount of players, including myself would not want to play if there was not a ladder to climb
EUW Plat is where the Kassadin, Talon and Evelynn mains go to have a mental breakdown every few weeks or so just to do it all over again and again and again and again until the one day they actually reach 100 games before a permaban
I like that he suggests that for most ranks, the ranks below them are low ELO. Sadly I started out as a support main, and never learned how to farm so the highest I've ever gone is Silver. Hello from near the bottom.
What prevents you from going higher than silver as a support, then?
@@Charuid I lack the skills to truly carry a game myself. Supports take a little more to do so than other roles.
@@paulb5571 All it takes to climb is just playing better than your role opponent more often than worse than them. Stay strong if you wish to climb. The results will come as you improve your fundamentals.
@@paulb5571 you dont have to Carry the game... You just have to be better than the other support.
For those who say that the gap between lets say D2 and Challanger is massive are at the same time wrong and correct. How? Well, if you look at rank and skill progression you will notice that they are huge gaps between each ranks from iron up to low diamond, but those are gaps that can be easily improved on by fixing a major gameplay issue each player has. In D2 to Challenger its a little bit different. Since the mastery of the game is already on a high level everything that is left are just minor improvements that eventually can give big results (for example a jump in rank from D2 to Masters), but this obvsly doesnt mean that those are easy things to do, especially since its really hard to spot those gameplay failures on your own in the first place.
i been saying this forever. a plat player would beat the hell out of silver or below player. like 4 division gap of any rank is monstrous
I hit gm this season but my map awareness needs some work. Only when I tryhard on my main I look at the map and track the enemy jg . When I'm playing with friends it's indeed a different game
what?? there is NO WAY you are telling me that you hit gm as a JUNGLER with BAD map awareness and unless you tryhard you dont even track the enemy jungler???? "A JUNGLER" with bad map awareness
@@saiboT805dNice
silver is a mine field, im the s3-4 area its either 50% someone who just started and got lucky to not be placed in bronze, 25% someone afk or dcs 15% actual silver player 10% someone whos probably gold 1/2 or above skill level
"cool jacket"
Bro if you ever show up in any public place with a challenger jacket and people know what it means, you are definitely getting bullied
Ur getting bullied only by miserable plat peakers or smth. My friend was top 50 chall like 5 years ago and every time someone recognized the backpack he got nothing but respect
every season I fight to get into gold IV, then take a break before falling back into silver. It's always this huge win streak that gets me in, and then I go into limbo going back and forth between gold and silver, or silver I and silver II
and then there is Agurin who is flamig his challenger teammates for being shit while almost having 2k lp
he probly needs to play in a better server
@@anonymouspornstar1039 he is playing in EUW which lacks a little from KR.
@@anonymouspornstar1039 there is only korea and the chinese super server so he doest have many options
@@kronos4806 he has pro play if he wants good teammates
Lmao
The thing with lower ranks such as silver is that they watch micro and macro guide vids on youtube, and immediately after then spam the actions of said videos. These actions sound and seem high leveled but 9 times out of 10 it was in the wrong situation and doesn't go as planned most of the time.
Becoming a jg main has been my greatest decision for climbing, since all i do is watch the map, and play my One trick, skarner, who is one of the top 5 best JG's in my elo.
"Jungle is the best role and it is the worst players playing it" - some bald guy
Just your average Diamond player with S+ mechanics, nothing out of the ordinary! Matter of fact, I think peak mechanical competence is achieved around Gold III. I once saw Faker playing Vladimir get solo-killed by a G4 Brand with Ignite, so my theory is pretty much confirmed at this point. I also agree with map awareness being the only other relevant indicator of skill, although 'copying professional players without applying critical thinking' could arguably be added as a third category.
iron is high elo what are you talking about. its just so high that it loops back around so most people just think its trash
challenger: you have depression
Honestly as a low elo player, I think my map awareness and decision making is better than my mechanics. i usually lose or go even in lane but then catch up later cuz i play with my buddies who are higher elo and it’s easier to pick up on map awareness versus mechanics from others.
Exactly the same here. I'm just low elo because my mechanics are shit and somethings like farm, and wave managment are not so good.
I wish if anyone can add the effect of Internet quality on the rank, as it seems to be neglected past Iron ranks.
As a challenger player it cracked me up when you rated diamond mechanics as s+.
As the president of USA, you're not a challanger player.
@@Micha-cn9py As the dad of this young lad, I can confirm he is adopted.
@@Micha-cn9py if he plays this game for at least 3 years high chance hes challenger
@@kelvinholaranja6038 what are you saying
Want to 1v1 me, as a Diamond 1? Come on, bro! Let's go!!!
As a measly 100 lp master peaker , the gap between top 50 chall and master is bigger than the gap between plat and master imo. I managed to gap players up to GM , chall players however it feels like they play a different game ( in scrims , i realise they run it down in solo Q from time to time just like anyone else )
As a Master player I mostly agree
Me playing 2000 games last season in iron II on my 20 fps 150 ping potato:
how a kennen mid got to challenger with 20 fps
💀
I mean many people reached diamond + with low fps and high ping so its kinda bad excuse, sorry man
your statements about platinum is perfect, been there 7 years ago and for now I just want to play for fun but sometimes I like to play in competition which is rank since I lost my main acc
I came back after like 4 years of no league.
My peak was gold 1.
Im now hardstuck silver 1-2
Tbh the game feels the same. Just theres always 1 player on your team or the other that is clearly a tad bit ahead of the curb. And people are very prone to fighting for no reason. Its likely due to map awareness. If 5 are alive and your alone bot, the top laner is top, and 4 of them are missing and your midlaner based, you probably shouldnt even think of pushing the wave unless you got some deep vision lmfao.
Anything below grandmaster is low elo since you can just abuse duo queue to master.
for me it's been 2 years as a platinum player, I really can't climb the diamond because it's kinda a maze or prison, 70% bad team, and 30% my bad gameplay, someday I will get out of that elo.
"70% bad team"
Holy god the copium
i think that mindset is the reason you're hardstuck as a platinum player
thats why you're hardstuck "bad team" you're just not good enough you watch players who are ACTUALLY good like TFBlade he does a lot of 99% wr challenges and he's practically living proof that even the worse teams can be carried if you're good enough
I’m also p1😂 playing against diamonds in promos is impossible to win.
@@thetrollerinc4943 why u compare to tf there are some games that are uncarriable for the average player it's probably a small percent of games you ll likely have but still
tbh master - challenger you can start bossing people around, you're the top dog
Iron: there is a fourth option, qualification didn't put you hier because bad luck, and you are forced to play with other players that fit first 3 problems
Will happily trade silver accounts for a bronze account with you - there isn't that much of a baseline in bronze so you only need to be good at a few things to climb. Becomes a lot more annoying when you have coin flip games in gold+ where enemies start to play around the fed carry
but enemies also fit the 3 problems so normal players in iron should have like 99% win rate
Brother if you got put in iron because of "bad luck" you would climb out of it in one single day
I am a low gold mmr player (sometimes silver 1) and I suck mechanically compared to my peers. But watching content online has helped me so much to climb to this rank.
love the persona effects
As someone who started 2 seasons ago, but only played like 15 ranked games my first season and got placed in iron 3, then last season i really started playing and got placed iron 2 went to iron 3 again and ended the season in silver 3. Now this season i'm 35 ranked games in and got placed bronze 4 cause i played my placements on day 1 of the season (rookie mistake), just casually playing some games i'm already back to bronze 1 about to hit silver 4 with ease. I can see the big difference in how i've improved and also the big difference in bronze to silver lol. I know i'm low elo but its a big difference between bronze and silver is pretty crazy, i feel in most of my low elo bronze matches, i have to babysit a lot and damn do people hate listening to others (ignoring pings, ect..) Everyone is so egotistical for no reason lol.
I mean yeah, i can tell you are low elo, you have obvi improved if you could make it to silver since like you said the difference is pretty noticable where i personally think the difference between bronze and iron is non-existing
but if you want to reach gold firstly you will notice that the difference between g4-g3 is not very different from s1-s2
but VERY different from low silver, another thing is that it sounds a lot like you are playing jungle since you are talking about babysitting, but as a jungle main myself I can ensure you that you should never do that, playing for your team as the jungler ussually isnt the best. And if you happen to not play jungle then still dont babysit play for yourself and dont trust your bad team ofc giving a kill or 2 is not bad if they are palying a carry champ and you are not, this is also unless you play supp ofc
Like about 2 years I was bronze, yesterday I got silver (after 100 games) :) guys I feel good, it's like a drug
And most of the 100 games were in bronze 1 :/
My team is full of animals sometimes, but God, 2-3 days ago, my botlane mf and Leona destroyed the game lmao, can't foget
When they say challenger is a whole another game you have to believe it. It's why there is a "SUPER SERVER" that exists in China only to house the very top.
Because their knowledge, mechanics, macro and micro play are nearly impeccable. The very high summit of skill in this game takes HOURS to analyze their games to full extension, as they play almost like bots, making no mistakes whatsoever and almost every time they engage it's a toss up who will win. Seeing that is pure beauty.
Lots of people saying about macro being the major difference between lower and higher elo players... Well, macro in league is quite easy, especially in random soloq games, it really is mechanics that makes most difference between like challenger and diamond player. If you look at the replays of games you lose, you can tell SOME mechanical mistake you make in pretty much every fight, a mistake which probably decided if you end up winning or losing the game. Sure, you can't see macro that easy, it's not so obvious, but macro only requires simple solutions of you, it's mostly mechanics that determines if you lose your game or not. And by mechanics I obviously mean more things than just landing your skillshots, it's also positioning, kiting, remembering enemy cooldowns, losing minion aggro, jungle clearing, camera control and many more. This is why korea is so much better at the game, they tend to open games early on if only someone dies so they must have great mechanics in order for their team not to lose morale. Many streamers who played in korea (e.g, thebaus, tyler) also said that their macro is actually average but their mechanics are great, even in lower ranks like plat or diamond. One thing that makes huge difference tho is wave management, but I wouldn't be so certain to call it macro since it doesn't really change the way you move around the map
As someone who is playing league for the first time and just ranked gold at level 30, I can tell you that people of this rank seem to think that their team doesn't matter and we're all enemies.
Only change I would make is that map awareness is generally lower in plat than gold. Most onetricks peak here because of mechanical skill, not game sense.
There's a lot of differences between each rank
The worst thing about low elo, is that every match is a coinflip. It doesn't matter, how good you are, faker couldn't carry an iron game, because it depends on the enemy team. How stupid they are, how many smurfs are there...
I would rank my map awareness like gold and my mechanical skills like iron IV.
"It is rare to see new master players"
*Laughing in 15k Master Players in EUW*
It's also important to note that diamond 1 and above numbers are slightly inflated. Quite a few of the people there have multiple accounts.
lol i have 3 master accs and 5 d3 to d1 i need help
actually it's true
as a gold player, I'm always focussed on myself and finding a way to solo carry
After 10 years yesterday i left gold division and rank up to platinium
Bronze and Iron truly are on another level of enlightenment. Just living life enjoying a game for fun goofing around doing whatever, whilst everyone else in higher ranks tryhards until they diehard.
I fluctuate high gold low platinum and I can tell you the reason is because I exclusively play on the weekends when drinking and refuse to go out on a loss.
As a gold player, definitely the players dont understand that they need the entire team to win the game is very true. Like most of my games, my teammates, mostly top and jungle always go solo even in mid to late game. They always play depends on what they want to do and usually doesn’t have any participation in objective control and teamfights. If they got lucky they usually 1v9 the whole game but thats very rare.
the reason im stuck at bronze is im too impatient to wait for the queue, i mean it took nearly 10 minute every time i queue.
I like how there are 0 actual advises after gold elo. Makes you think about the author.
you've got a like for mentioning jacket from season 6, btw you can see jacket in Baka prase - otp yasuo remastered song
As someone that played in average 400lp master lobbies last season and is currently master 1lp (Swapped role from jg to supp) i can say that d1 till gm is basically all the same games, like same errors and same players
Diamond and Platinum being middle ranks is interesting, considering plat 4 alone is too 10% of the player base.
Bcs elo and player distribution arent complementary. Elo is ur skill and game knowledge made into a number. The higher the elo is, the bigger is the difference in skill between them. For example the difference between plat and dia is 100x smaller than between dia and masters. Even tho plat players are in like 15% of player distribution that doesnt change the fact that their understanding of the game is bad. For example d4 and d1 are technically the in the same rank but the difference in skill is so large that some high elo players even consider d4 low elo while d1 is respetable. For example g4 and g1 are literally the same thing cuz the elo is so low that a few hundred points up ir down doesnt change much
This is certifiably his most controversial video yet
I've been playing this game for 3 years, and I've never used ranked, I only play normal mode, because there I can play with the characters I want instead of having to play meta and other ridiculous things
This depends on server to server today.
Before, Gold felt like... Gold. Today, Gold, Plat and even Emerald feels like I'm playing together with Bronze and Silver players.
plat is like a wizard organization, their techniques are fucking insane. I play top and got to diamond in season 10 and promoted to masters for about a few weeks before inting my way back. During the time i have seen so many plats in my games (might be because of my fucked up elo) who dance using champs like lee sin and shit as if it was something they have been doing for 30 years
honestly biggest part of league is just try to learn, all materials to learn you need are already on the internet
"se o seu pc fosse um micro ondas ele não rodava nem o prato"
-some challenger to a iron
It's not just that gold players (by and large) haven't yet figured out that they have to play as a team to win, they actively resist the idea and are out to prove that no they don't. The whole concept still offends them.
masters rank seems like from the POV of someone whos never been masters or talked to a masters player ngl
As a challenger I confirm that i have the jacket and i lost 1v1 to a gold elo player
I can't help but feel like the gold elo rating should have been a bit higher in mechanical skill but have the map awareness of C or D.
Yeah some people in gold have insane mechanics
@@sickii_It's still a a long way from dia
As a hard stuck plat player, I can confirm our egos are massive
The gap between dimoand 1 and challanger is bigger than iron to diamond
A very good supp is usually more stronger of it's rank (a bronze can be strong as a gold rank) , you get walled hard in bronze/silver if you are a main supp bc you need your team to win, you can't do much alone in many games, even if you try your best or you pick a champ that can do damage
As a Diamond 2 player i think you gave to much credit to the lower elos mechanical skills, i 100% agreed that until diamond 3 everybody is trash, this is my 3 season and im ayming to get to masters and i problably will because at this point i think that your macro is what wins u games if u improve that u will climb
After becoming the top player in challenger rank, you will unlock the next highest rank which is herald.
i think they should add more ranks like stone , rubble, dirt :D and maybe paper .
it would be only fair if you think about the player counts in the lower ranks (like 60%+ iron-gold)
imagine being in paper rank haha
@@claudeheinrich3613HAHAHAHA that would be funny as hell
Just imagine they added team wide voice chat....
As a platinum player I can confirm that I'm indeed hardstuck plat for 4 years
I'm usually around bronze because I end up quitting lol for months/years every now and then. What annoys me most is that most matches are decided by 1-2 players on a team going afk, running it down on purpose, picking champs they can't play at all and so on.
The elo being what it is, it's also very unrewarding to play supports which heavily rely on their adc to get things done compared to ones that can get kills on their own (and farm if the adc does stupid recalls, dies etc.).
So true, I'm stuck in platinum 1 for like 5, 6 seasons, that sucks, but, the thing is that I feel there is a huge wall between platinum 1 and diamond 4, like if I wanna climb I must play like a diamond 2, think that I'm not. I'm saying this because in platinum 1 I was matched with diamond 4 and 3, and felt like regular platinum to me (until disaster strikes and the matches just get really hard and quite unfair)
And you are right the difference between a diamond 2 and 3 is so huge
If I knew for the jacket in S6 I would have been challenger
i like that from description - platinum is just THE worst (i would assume there's some personal drama involved)
Most of the time i like to blame my addiction to diver champs and my lack of cool when i get jump scared by the jg.
Plat and Gold are fun, Diamond is more toxic than a nuclear waste pool
Honestly im a player who probably in all honesty has Diamond mechanics and Macro game, but lacks slightly in map awareness, yet is hardstuck silver/gold since S5 and its awful. I have to say these are good assessments lmao
You missed one: The normal game elo where everything is a mess. Thats my elo because I only play to get to gold to the skin in the end of the year
"they doesn't know" Well, no idea don't play the game but I like the grammar, it makes it way more fun to watch also while applying to Valorant.
the gap between diamond 4 and masters is the same as the gap between silver and diamond
League is played by 100 million people every month. Kinda weird to say that only the 10,000 players with the highest rank are high elo
Idk about masters all knowing each other, there are actually a lot of
Master tier players. I guess it depends on if you queue really late at night.