When Are We? - The Destiny of Western Civilization

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @emanuelpetre5491
    @emanuelpetre5491 Год назад +34

    I love how well you weave together and articulate bits and pieces that popped into my mind over the years since I discovered Jung, Spengler, Gebser, etc.

  • @starxcrossed
    @starxcrossed Год назад +31

    Today I stopped myself from going on a tangent into morphic resonance starting with someone mentioning memory transfer through organ donation. I was going to start with rna memory, slip into bioelectricity, then boom, find myself yelling about us all being trillions of cells and then start asking unanswerable questions. But I’m really proud of myself that THIS TIME I didn’t, and no one got scared away 😂

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +16

      Save that energy for when your interlocuters are about halfway through a blunt

    • @starxcrossed
      @starxcrossed Год назад +5

      @@Formscapes genius 😂

  • @mjwolf9529
    @mjwolf9529 Год назад +13

    What have I been listening to all my life? I’m home.

  • @Nalhek
    @Nalhek Год назад +61

    Algorithm comment on my own video bc I have no shame lol.

    • @2013Arcturus
      @2013Arcturus Год назад +16

      Based and comment pilled

    • @mjwolf9529
      @mjwolf9529 Год назад +9

      Whoa, I can’t believe you guys have no shame here, too. We should hang out.

    • @justinyoungs6100
      @justinyoungs6100 Год назад +1

      If you had no shame your self comment would say. “Wow I can’t stop thinking about my greatness, I must be Jesus... “

    • @GammaAuObsidian
      @GammaAuObsidian 10 месяцев назад

      Nor should you

    • @shara1979
      @shara1979 4 месяца назад +1

      Shame, what's that? I'm liking my own comment as we speak.

  • @robertoperez2579
    @robertoperez2579 Год назад +15

    I appreciate what you do.

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +1

      😎👉👉

    • @robertoperez2579
      @robertoperez2579 Год назад +3

      If ever in Puerto Rico, you have a place to stay...guest house on our farm

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +4

      @@robertoperez2579 Bruh I need a vacation so bad you have no idea. Puerto Rico sounds amazing right about now lol

  • @nadietomatoful
    @nadietomatoful 10 месяцев назад +6

    WHY is your voice and accent so fucking relaxing to me

  • @naas_the_serpent
    @naas_the_serpent Год назад +9

    Thanks for your contribution to the process - Avantgarde of meta consciousness

  • @FraterMerovius
    @FraterMerovius Год назад +3

    Brilliant work. Even after 60 plus years of seeking and studying, I find you have much to impart to me. I am devouring your videos at as rapid a pace as I can process and integrate them. Thank you for your efforts and insights. They have arrived in my life at just the right time.

  • @emanuelpetre5491
    @emanuelpetre5491 Год назад +13

    babe wake up Formscapes new video just dropped

  • @ZannaWeems
    @ZannaWeems 20 дней назад

    I’m so happy this channel found me! 🤗

  • @kristinak2211
    @kristinak2211 Год назад +5

    49:18 ..absolutely LOVE this explanation!! 👏💞🙌

  • @markcounseling
    @markcounseling 8 месяцев назад +2

    This is profound, and you are very, very good at synthesis, integration and explication -- so much so that you're able to create an analysis of an idea that is so evocative it feels like a song, or even a symphony sometimes ... and one feels that your development as this sort of artist just continues, and that you're still working at your craft. What next?!
    Thank you for your work and for the vivid experience of meaning you unfold -- for free -- to people like me who don't have the intellectual gifts to do work like this.

  • @davieboy3814
    @davieboy3814 8 месяцев назад +2

    Connecting the dots of time and space, one video at a time.

  • @JamesTWood
    @JamesTWood Год назад +6

    lots to say so I'll try to be succinct:
    - consciousness philosophers discuss the brane separating the Buberian 'I' and 'Thou' and correlate the thickness of the brane to the liminal space between beings.
    -- therefore increasing the spatiotemporal consciousness (i.e. moving towards brahaman consciousness) aids in creating balance
    - Spirit is linguistically the same as Breath in nearly every ancient language, and gives a tangible understanding of the mystical spirit. we literally share breath with all life, our spirits intertwine in a very physical sense!
    -- it's aslo understood in many non Western cultures that our words and songs are manifestations of the spirit/breath, and through the spirit-word the physical and psychic (psuche is the Greek for soul) come into contact, make the voice the liminal bridge (literally where the body and spirit comingle a vocal chords are vibrated by breath).

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +1

      The relationship between spirit and breath is interesting bc it shows how these concepts mutated over time. In tribal/magical thinking, spirit is more often associated with water and blood - the Mesopotamian creation myth illustrates such associations. In Greek, pneuma is spirit, but psyche is associated with fire. The Egyptian Ba is associated with air (and birds), but is more akin to Soul than spirit - The Ka is also associated with breath but is considered to be a vital essence; spirit. I suspect that Sekhem was associated with water, and thus served a similar purpose as the Mesopotamian conception of spirit, but there isn't much evidence related to that as far as I know, unfortunately.

    • @MrCman321
      @MrCman321 Год назад

      @@FormscapesAs I was watching this I was perplexed as I conceptualize the soul as water and the personal, and the spirit as transcendent like air… not sure if this is just semantics or if I’m confusing them.

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад

      @@MrCman321 So this is something which gets a bit confusing bc ancient concepts get translated as the modern words "soul" and "spirit" in a very clumsy and inconsistent way, but insofar as we are regarding the "soul" as pertaining to personal identity, then Soul would be more affiliated with wind and fire bc the Soul is a form which transcends matter and particular events. It is "Higher" up, towards the realm of pure forms.
      Spirit is impersonal and fluid, like how raindrops and rivers flow seamlessly back into the ocean. Identity is pre-individual, and thus would be associated with the ocean, the underworld, etc

    • @MrCman321
      @MrCman321 Год назад

      @@Formscapes Ah okay that makes more sense, thanks!

  • @TheMagickianCarolynElliott
    @TheMagickianCarolynElliott 11 месяцев назад +4

    Gosh darn you are GOOD - I had no idea I was yearning for someone to dose me with heavy hits of German metaphysics & ancient Hermeticism kissed with weird science & delivered with that sweet sweet McKenna-esque diction.
    Thank you sir for scratching this itch-of-the-mind that I didn’t even know I had. 😊

  • @personalizedroaches3653
    @personalizedroaches3653 10 месяцев назад +3

    Splendid!

  • @BlackestSheepBobBarker333
    @BlackestSheepBobBarker333 Год назад +6

    I've been waiting until I can watch this whole vid uninterrupted and can dedicate time to fully take it in. Well, here we are and let's begin!
    This channel has a ton of potential imo, you never disappoint Formscapes. Let's do this

  • @futureproof.health
    @futureproof.health Год назад +6

    Well done

  • @Charlie-Em
    @Charlie-Em Год назад +3

    You're doing real good with this

  • @muliefriend4785
    @muliefriend4785 Год назад +6

    It’s like Terrence McKenna has come back to life❤❤❤

  • @THURMAN3
    @THURMAN3 Год назад +2

    Gratitude

  • @danielwales7108
    @danielwales7108 11 месяцев назад

    Liminal percepttions have no Label.
    Therefore no Words.
    Therefore no objectifying Thought.
    This is what stimulates the now relatively silent mind reach into our most ancient Human reaction to perceiving an object for the first sign.
    No Label,
    No Words,
    No thought'
    No activity.
    Hey Presto! The Fullness of Emptiness perceived. Love your work, simple, elegant, empathic and compassionate for all.👣

  • @liamv9556
    @liamv9556 Год назад +6

    Incredibly based channel and content

  • @PvtSchlock
    @PvtSchlock Год назад +5

    Liminal space is uncomfortable for humans and when we occupy it for prolonged periods we get nutty (or to be more exact, we experience stress and disorientation). So if one is stuck between child and adult indefinitely it will result in absolute chaos for the individual. In the case of a congregation the effect is magnified. I would have to go into my notes to dig out the sourcing, but there's an obscure anthropologist who's written on this and developed a theory (as a bonus, I know for a fact that you can suffer grade retaliation for bringing it up, so it's worth examination for heretical nature and the ideas).
    I think "current year" and "current thing" are indeed reaction to our "priesthood's" manipulation of our imposed liminal conditions. It's fuzzy logic personified in a sense. Men are women are non gendered are children are persons ad infinitum. There is no up, there is no down and the cycle rate is adjusted to suit. I might quibble a bit as to how accurate "capitalism" is accurate or whether "corporate syndicalism" might be better, but perhaps I should pony up (assuming the discord is for members) with a view towards a better arena to discuss the matter.
    Spengler is great translated and I really really regret not being able to read a dozen languages. Taken with some of Schmittian decisionism and some of Carlisle's ideas I think a certain picture of the Western trajectory can be traced.
    Thanks for the fine video!

  • @ArtificiallyVirtuos
    @ArtificiallyVirtuos Год назад +1

    Be fully present, relaxed, skillful and compassionate with what is simply given in each moment. Let go and flow with the present. Be aware of your conditioning and particular reactivity to stimuli. Then act with skill and wisdom.

  • @regulator9leorise629
    @regulator9leorise629 Год назад +3

    Your content is phenomenal

  • @2013Arcturus
    @2013Arcturus Год назад +8

    Context for "current year" tho.
    Back in 2016 during the Gamer Gate era, one of the reliable go to's for leftists was "Are we still doing racism in 2014?" Or like, "its 2016 and we still have an Electoral College??" as if, somehow the the "current year" was justification enough to replace long standing cultural and political structures.
    In response, the anti SJWs started saying, oh well if its the "current year..." as yes, an in joke. Idk how old you are but its a relic from those days. I dont think your analysis is wrong on the face of it, just theres a concrete, linear reason for the appearance of the phrase.

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +9

      Yeah I'm aware of the origins, but explaining all that would have been a huge detour. I'm 31. I was there when the deep magic was written

    • @2013Arcturus
      @2013Arcturus Год назад +3

      @Formscapes Shadilay

    • @Skyblu77789
      @Skyblu77789 Год назад +1

      Are u a racist?

    • @MrCman321
      @MrCman321 Год назад +3

      @@Formscapes”do not cite the deep magic to me, witch, I was there when it was written!” 🤣

  • @jamesridener3573
    @jamesridener3573 Год назад +4

    Part 2 coming up or did I somehow miss it? This was fascinating, as is your other content.

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +9

      Part two is the recent-ish video titled "Archetypal Dynamics of History" (I've basically decided to stop doing the "part 1, part 2, etc" thing because people are less likely to watch the video unless they have seen the first one already)

    • @dgreenthumb8114
      @dgreenthumb8114 10 месяцев назад +1

      This was helpful:)

  • @Lover-of-wisdom.
    @Lover-of-wisdom. Год назад +2

    Great stuff on this channel 👍

  • @kristinak2211
    @kristinak2211 Год назад +4

    Part 2 please!! 🙏

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +1

      😎👉👉

    • @kristinak2211
      @kristinak2211 Год назад +1

      Part 2?? ❤️

    • @kristinak2211
      @kristinak2211 Год назад +1

      @@Formscapes ⤴️

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +1

      @@kristinak2211 Nobody watched this video so I did something different last week but part 2 of this is still in the works.

    • @kristinak2211
      @kristinak2211 Год назад +2

      @@Formscapes awww.. i want to see a part 2 if u get the time! Please and thank u!! ❤️

  • @claironaut
    @claironaut 9 месяцев назад +1

    formscapes videos are my favorite song

  • @bobsebbo
    @bobsebbo Год назад +3

    excellent

  • @navirobayo
    @navirobayo Год назад +2

    Very interesting, specially the magical aspect of technology. (It is not magical but yes, we seems to rely on it in a magical way, most of the population I would say). Thanks for sharing!

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +2

      Glad you liked it. The video I just uploaded is basically the long-awaited part-2 of this episode so be sure to check that out when you get a chance. (People are less liekly to click on a video with "part 2,3,etc" in the title so I've tried to do that less lol)

    • @navirobayo
      @navirobayo Год назад

      @@Formscapes Hahah yes. I will check it 🗿

  • @Mustachioed_Mollusk
    @Mustachioed_Mollusk Год назад +3

    If you’re reading this comment you might like a RUclips series called, Interface. Bio electricity plays a big part of that story and takes form as the soul/spirit.

  • @vu4y3fo846y
    @vu4y3fo846y Год назад +1

    Awesome 😎

  • @smugmonkey6147
    @smugmonkey6147 Месяц назад

    This reminds me of “The Crow and The Raven”. The great mother and such…

  • @faithfulfaustian
    @faithfulfaustian Год назад +1

    Spengler’s Decline could also be changed to “Destiny” and his title would read “Fulfillment of the West”

  • @glenliesegang233
    @glenliesegang233 Год назад +2

    The "progress" towards integral consciousness has been hijacked for immediate gratification and, ultimately profit for the few.

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +1

      There is an efficient and deficient mode of Integral awareness, as there is a deficient and efficient mode of all other structures. The efficient mode initially emerged in the late 18th and early 19th century German Idealism movement.
      The deficient mode emerged initially in Nietzsche, and subsequently germinated in France in the 1960s as the French Existentialism and Post-Structuralist movements. Deficient integral awareness is the perfect compliment to Globalist disfigurement of the human soul through information technology and consumer capitalism.

  • @shaahnii
    @shaahnii 10 месяцев назад

    3:10 in and I'm called out viciously

  • @orcjob
    @orcjob 7 месяцев назад

    For the first time in a long time, I feel as though I’m hearing something thats True.
    With that said, this is a part one that seems to have no part two?

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  7 месяцев назад

      The video titled "archetypal dynamics of history" picks up where this one left off.

  • @shawnvaughn3693
    @shawnvaughn3693 Год назад +2

    Technically the current year should be 1023 due to the church made the i at the beginning of the way they used to portray the year back in ad 380 I think.

  • @Arcessitor
    @Arcessitor 9 месяцев назад

    Untergang literally means 'below' or 'down' or 'under' + 'going.' So a '(down)fall' would be an accurate translation, as would be 'going under' or 'defeat.'

  • @PravdaSeed.
    @PravdaSeed. 18 дней назад +1

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  • @2013Arcturus
    @2013Arcturus Год назад +5

    Sorry it took me a day to click, i shoulda clicked yesterday for algorithm lol

  • @PrehistoricVendingMachine
    @PrehistoricVendingMachine 11 месяцев назад

    42:46 the image of the civilization life cycles, wouldn’t it be more accurate if the size of the cycle was shrinking in a fractal manner and overlapping via conventional means ( as one bleeds into on another) but if the perspective of time is changing perhaps civilization isn’t such a linear organism.

  • @SSolemn
    @SSolemn 4 месяца назад

    Kinda like our current Western myth is based on "Conquest", and that is why in our culture most things are seen as a "resouce".

  • @starxcrossed
    @starxcrossed Год назад +4

    Your soul is the dna algorithm your spirit is the bioelectricity
    Help me out with that 😂

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +4

      Bioelectricity is a kind of spirit, though I think there's more to spirit than just that. It's a bit more nebulous.
      DNA is just the information which individual cells use to create the correct proteins. DNA is only really significant when it fucks up and then certain cells stop being able to function properly; Sickle cell anemia for example.
      The Soul is very hard to describe. Carl Jung spent his entire life trying to nail down exactly what it is, but it's whatever underlies the continuity of your identity and the shape of your life-trajectory. It's the center of conceptual/narrative gravity which weaves one's psyche together into a unified whole.
      Obviously that's painting with a very broad brush but maybe I'll get around to a more detailed explanation if I get around to doing some videos on Aion and Libra Novus.

  • @dagon99
    @dagon99 Год назад +5

    Algo comment

  • @ronnysmobilephone
    @ronnysmobilephone Год назад +2

    Tell me you don't understand what Historical Materialism is without telling me....

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +3

      Has it ever occurred to you that maybe noone can tolerate Marxists bc you are all exceptionally belligerent, dogmatic and insufferable people? Just a thought

    • @Silent_Depths
      @Silent_Depths Год назад +1

      @@Formscapes I've no clue what you two are on about but doesn't being belligerent and dogmatic come with having subscribed to any ideal though? Insufferable... that's the base standard for every one of us, better learn to tolerate, no?

  • @millabasset1710
    @millabasset1710 7 месяцев назад

    I'm not typing this as a negative comment, but I believe Islam is destined to evolve in Western Europe due to the fact white Europeans are simply exploring the religion and giving it a chance. Islam sees the highest rates of conversion for non Arabic peoples and eventually will surpass Christianity. Eastern Europe will retain its Orthodoxy beliefs. The United States is so unpredictable anything can happen.

  • @starxcrossed
    @starxcrossed Год назад +2

    Is Sleep Token liminal?!

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +2

      maybe but Knocked Loose and Oathbreaker are 1000x heavier fr fr

    • @starxcrossed
      @starxcrossed Год назад +2

      ⁠@@Formscapesoh yes no doubt, sleep token is my palette cleanser lol I normally listen to deathcore/metal. But I think ST has explicitly highlighted the fact that music has somewhat replaced religion and religious experience while blending genres. They are reallllly liminal!

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  Год назад +4

      @@starxcrossed Oh absolutely. It's also really interesting that music has become a kind of "religion" which is very Dionysian and visceral in character. It has a much more pagan/folkish/shamanic aura than Christianity, and really it's been that way since the Blues came about.

  • @ians.mozdzen3012
    @ians.mozdzen3012 Год назад

    All those liminal places look PRIME for dance.

  • @StephenDix
    @StephenDix 10 месяцев назад +1

    Part 2?

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  10 месяцев назад

      Part 2 is "archetypal dynamics of history" and "integral consciousness" is basically the part 3
      [I stopped labelling videos as part 1, 2 etc, bc noone clicks on videos titled like that]

  • @Neuromancer2310
    @Neuromancer2310 9 месяцев назад

    Fade into obscurity

  • @intellectually_lazy
    @intellectually_lazy 8 месяцев назад

    omg! that's what i've been telling escatological xtians about the great disappointment for decades now

  • @FirstNameLastName-tm4tg
    @FirstNameLastName-tm4tg 8 месяцев назад

    Screw hydroelectric dams

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  8 месяцев назад +1

      Finally someone gets it

  • @growinglifeorganic940
    @growinglifeorganic940 9 месяцев назад +1

    Mentioned nobody, noice.

    • @Formscapes
      @Formscapes  9 месяцев назад

      I have a whole playlist of his dark-ambient/liminal stuff that i put on shuffle while writing these lol

  • @julianpaulson283
    @julianpaulson283 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing video. But your enunciation needs just a little more chill lol