How to Listen to Classical Music: Motifs and Seeds

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @shtef2010
    @shtef2010 6 лет назад +113

    Wonderful video, man! I can't wait to show your works to a couple of friends who would like to get into classical music. Hoping you'll do a video on musical semantics similar to the Berstein lectures.
    Anyway, I'm subscribed, keep up the great work!

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  6 лет назад +11

      Wow - thanks, glad you enjoyed! I love the Bernstein lectures, but Semantics is a SUPER complicated topic! I'll make my own way I think - Bernstein has been a huge influence and I'm hoping some of these videos can represent my own thoughts and feelings on music, for other people to learn from. Semantics and Semiotics would be great to cover, but in what guise I'm not sure, because a proper semantics of music is a terrifying thought! Glad you enjoyed!

    • @bencostello7435
      @bencostello7435 6 лет назад

      Inside the Score
      Yes, but musical semiotics is one of the most fascinating topics on earth, and in a way, you don't really need much theory to start with

    • @ignacioclerici5341
      @ignacioclerici5341 3 года назад

      @@bencostello7435 what is musical semiótics and semántics?

  • @b00i00d
    @b00i00d 5 лет назад +99

    When people simply theorise I switch off yawning... But when someone does what you do, backing their explanations with actual examples I'm on! And I particularly enjoyed the fact that you go "this piece could simply go like … but instead [Chopin, Beethoven] does this..." Just wish the vid was a bit longer (something I rarely say - usually I wish the opposite!) with more examples. Good job! :)

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  5 лет назад +5

      Thanks - I'd forgotten I'd done that with this

  • @maxwellroache
    @maxwellroache 6 лет назад +63

    As a long standing pop/rock musician I have always struggled with how to listen to classical music - I’m so used to simple verse/chorus stuff. Got up this morning with a view to googling sonata form etc and trying to find a way in! Found your videos and they are helping for sure so thanks so much. Carefully explained, professionally presented. A lucky find!

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  6 лет назад +7

      Thanks so much - so glad they could be of help

  • @ToastedCigar
    @ToastedCigar 5 лет назад +33

    To me, motifs and creating pieces based on them is one of the most exciting areas of musical composition. The fact that you can tell a story with carefully placed musical motifs is truly fascinating - I think I developed my interest in this style of writing as a child, as I was watcing LOTR in awe back then, and started to notice connections between the music and the appearing characters, places etc.

  • @malcolmbojangles265
    @malcolmbojangles265 4 года назад +44

    "Preludes are simple"
    Bach: *laughs in BWV 548*

  • @FutureStoics
    @FutureStoics 5 лет назад +11

    I tried listening to that swan lake finale but just couldn’t make it to the end, I got too much goosebumps and eargasm game was too strong so I paused and reflected on what just happened. No judgement or bias of the vibrational qualities but pure simple present appreciation. Thanks for this.

  • @davidmintzer3743
    @davidmintzer3743 6 лет назад +21

    Keep them coming--wonderful stuff.

  • @abeltshimbalanga1333
    @abeltshimbalanga1333 2 года назад +1

    You have put into words exactly why I like classical music. It is literally an expression of my character, made manifest. From seed to the endless possibilities, and counterpoints. God I had no idea that's what they were doing and now I have the word for them

  • @abergavennypeal
    @abergavennypeal 4 года назад +1

    Please don't stop making these explainers. I have learnt more in 20 minutes than I have in two years trying to teach myself.

  • @perfectlyadaptable
    @perfectlyadaptable 5 лет назад +11

    I love this channel. I just discovered it and it is exactly what I've been wanting for years. I've always wanted to enjoy classical music but I never knew where to start or, more importantly, HOW to listen to it; I felt there is a particular way one should listen to it but I was at a loss of how. I would pick up some insights here and there but a lot of it was still a mystery. Classical music has a language - preludes, sonatas, motifs, etc - and I knew I only knew a few words of it. Thank you so much for these lessons.

  • @danielopolot4198
    @danielopolot4198 6 лет назад +2

    I started on the piano when I was 8 or so, but then dropped the lessons when I was 11. It's the only regret I have in my life so far. Though I continued to play the piano through those years, I never went back to learning theory and how to sight read. I'm 19 now and going off to uni in the next academic year; I'm at a great point in my life for me to learn new things comprehensively, I have the enthusiasm and the time. These videos are a great accompaniment to my learning!

  • @MaxZ_FX
    @MaxZ_FX 5 лет назад +6

    OH I love your channel , I’m currently mastering Beethoven’s 1st Sonata and your videos just help me understand the music better than I have ever before.
    Thank You

  • @danaianastasiou6146
    @danaianastasiou6146 28 дней назад

    Than for that...honestly...i feel like someone came and opened my heart

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 6 лет назад +10

    I am planning to write a sonata that sounds kind of neo-Beethoven if you will. In other words, it sounds like a Beethoven piece without being a Beethoven piece. I am practicing playing 2 of Beethoven's piano sonatas. I also listen to Beethoven quite often, usually his 5th symphony or Pathetique sonata.
    Here is what I want to get across movement by movement:
    First movement:
    Feels like night
    Exposition:
    Quiet
    Triplet rhythm
    Slow
    Sleepy quality
    Development:
    Fugetto or little fugue(this will perhaps be the most difficult part of the sonata to compose)
    Uncertainty about when the sun will rise
    Not knowing if it is safe or not to continue sleeping
    Minimize number of forte moments
    Recapitulation:
    Same as exposition
    Second movement:
    Feels like morning
    Beginning with a creschendo and an accelerando(represents the sunrise)
    Getting livelier as the creschendo progresses
    Forte and lively towards the middle of it
    Third movement:
    Feels like afternoon
    Forte but not as lively as the day gets hotter and you feel more tired
    Ritardando as you start looking for shade
    Ends slow and peaceful
    Fourth movement:
    Feels like evening
    More lively than the third movement
    Near the middle a diminuendo and ritardando as the sun starts to set and you find a place to sleep
    And I want to capture this all in sonata form.

    • @niccolopaganini4268
      @niccolopaganini4268 5 лет назад

      Just wanted to tell. If the sonata is in 4 movements, then the 3rd movement is the slow movement in most cases.

    • @niccolopaganini4268
      @niccolopaganini4268 5 лет назад

      How did it go after 5 months?

    • @caterscarrots3407
      @caterscarrots3407 5 лет назад

      @@niccolopaganini4268 I got sidetracked from composing this sonata. But I did end up finishing a piano sonata. I'm also working on a waltz but I'm finding the melody writing hard.
      My brain by default thinks in 4/4 time when improvising but a 4/4 melody obviously won't fit into a waltz.

    • @josezavala9256
      @josezavala9256 5 лет назад

      Have you uploaded any of your compositions? It sounds like something people would enjoy watching

    • @caterscarrots3407
      @caterscarrots3407 5 лет назад +2

      @@josezavala9256 Yes. I have uploaded 3 of my compositions. If you click on my profile name or search for the channel Caters Carrots, among the first few videos to pop up would be the 3 compositions I have uploaded. Here they are in chronological order:
      Nocturne in Bb
      Turkish March(which is a rondo but with the commonalities between Mozart's rondo alla Turka and Beethoven's Turkish March)
      And
      Canon in Bb
      I haven't uploaded my finished piano sonata yet because, well it is 15 minutes long and even though yes, this sonata was dedicated to Mozart, I still have no idea whether I should upload my sonata or not. Thankfully, the Musescore site makes it easy to upload my pieces not only to the site but to RUclips as well.
      I have also thought of perhaps making a RUclips channel dedicated to my compositions but moving my already uploaded composition videos there would mean downloading the video, copying the description, and then reuploading. I could delete my older videos from years ago since those have stopped getting views but would I then be able to change the channel name? RUclips is so complicated when it comes to uploading or moving videos or making a second channel under the same account.

  • @abigailsy2129
    @abigailsy2129 5 лет назад +2

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for making these videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! much love

  • @beautyandthefaith
    @beautyandthefaith 8 месяцев назад

    Great video. We need to let more people understand enough to enjoy classical music... everyone loves it, they just might not know about it yet.

  • @owenmcgee8496
    @owenmcgee8496 5 лет назад +1

    Changing chords around a set melody: when it is done, the emotional impact is such that one might not hear that is what is happening: one is simply "blown away". I've never thought of this until hearing this video. Film music example: love theme from cinema paradiso (Andrea Morricone). Ennio Morricone themes too...

  • @Paul77374
    @Paul77374 5 лет назад +5

    3 seconds of lord of the rings, you minx! Haha great informative vid. Loving the way you juxtapose the theory with actual examples. Super helpful.

  • @whaddup5417
    @whaddup5417 6 лет назад +20

    I showed this one to my friend and he said he sort of understood the concept, but wanted an example of the kind of argument a piece would be making. What I think he means is "how does the structure of the musical argument parallel a verbal one?". Do you think it would be possible to make a video to provide an example illustration of a verbal argument alongside the musical one?

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  6 лет назад +15

      Hi - check out my Video on Sonata Form. That compares the famous argument structure set out in Hegel's Dialectic, with the Sonata Form - probably the most used structure in Classical Music. But moreover, it's an analogy, not a strict parallel. A musical 'argument' is kind of a way of saying that the music shows off its material with logic, ingenuity, and coherence, like a good verbal argument would. We could even say the composer is showing us how worthy of development his material is. But obviously it's different from an argument in other ways - it's not literally based on disagreement and its chief aim isn't to convince us to change our mind. It's just a terminology you'll find often, and one I find quite useful in certain kinds of music - musical argument, meaning it develops itself with logic -
      Think the great Greek/Roman school of Rhetoric and the Rhetoric argument - the concepts of Rhetoric are very analogous to musical arguments!!!

  • @moonchild.7645
    @moonchild.7645 13 дней назад

    This is the most beautiful video I have seen in a while

  • @vencheangheng405
    @vencheangheng405 2 года назад +1

    I learn so much from this series! Thank you for your work

  • @Lee_music249
    @Lee_music249 2 года назад +1

    This is a great video. As an aspiring composer myself, this really explains a lot of what I've been doing for the past few years, which is planting the seeds. However, with some of my most memorable (to me) seeds that I've written thus far, I'm struggling to find the right form to put them in, or how to develop them effectively. Thank you for your enlightening and inspiring videos.

  • @FutureStoics
    @FutureStoics 5 лет назад +4

    This is fire on a whole other level🔥🔥🔥

  • @lilysthapit2222
    @lilysthapit2222 5 лет назад +1

    I'm really glad I found this video and channel. I've used your tips on a basic counterpoint fugue, and it sounds better than my last 4 pieces!

  • @pspspsps9848
    @pspspsps9848 4 года назад +2

    Could you make a video to inform us more about each musical forms? Love your videos a lot

  • @MemphiStig
    @MemphiStig Год назад

    As dry as it sounds, I've always found musical analysis, both aural and visual, in any style or genre, to be essential to understanding what you're hearing and feeling; And it really deepens your appreciation of a piece and the ideas it's conveying. And if you're a musician, it enhances your ability to perform a piece if you understand its structure and use of its ideas. These are excellent explanations of the fundamental concepts. Music is always better with education.

  • @lisali2865
    @lisali2865 5 лет назад +1

    Great video! I loved it. I showed few non classical lovers and they at least finish watching it. That's a progress.

  • @cosmicnomad8575
    @cosmicnomad8575 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video! It is a bit of work actually trying to listen properly but it definitely pays off!

  • @maryblackwood2868
    @maryblackwood2868 5 лет назад +3

    These videos are so helpful, thank you!

  • @Honoringlife108
    @Honoringlife108 Год назад

    This channel is a gift to humanity. Excellent!

  • @AliTori
    @AliTori 4 года назад

    I don't know how to express my thankfulness and respect to you and your sophisticated learning material. Thank you

  • @FellipeEduardoBrito
    @FellipeEduardoBrito 5 лет назад +2

    Dude, such an amazing work. Thank You!

  • @ryanh4975
    @ryanh4975 Год назад

    This is helping me understand how to play lead guitar more.

  • @alvinprettyman1802
    @alvinprettyman1802 5 лет назад +2

    thanks for posting

  • @joannerondell5099
    @joannerondell5099 5 лет назад +1

    Wonderful. Very helpful. Explanations with demonstrations/examples greatly clarify. This should greatly improve the quality of my listening. Subscribed and would like to see more videos on form.

  • @elaineblows2193
    @elaineblows2193 5 лет назад

    I recently discovered Beethoven Diabelli variations and I'm fascinated by how this unassuming theme is manipulated so thrillingly. I'd love to understand better what's happening in some of the less obvious ones. Great work on these videos, they're such a joy to watch!

  • @bartondisplay
    @bartondisplay 6 лет назад +6

    I really, really like the video! You might want to produce the voice a bit less harshly in the future though. I was having some trouble focusing because of the character. Hope you don't mind the feedback!

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  6 лет назад

      Used a different mic on this one due to necessity. Won't be using it again. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @LanceClark
    @LanceClark 5 лет назад

    I love watching your videos. I feel inspired to listen to more classical music each time I finish one. I greatly appreciate your work. Thank you!

  • @connorb.5368
    @connorb.5368 4 года назад

    This is my favourite channel on youtube

  • @modernmozart813
    @modernmozart813 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent

  • @MLM_EC
    @MLM_EC 2 месяца назад

    very useful channel...i could understand a lot abt WM

  • @johncarton8005
    @johncarton8005 8 месяцев назад

    wonderful...thank you💜💜💜💜

  • @Paljk299
    @Paljk299 6 лет назад +2

    Good work with the video keep em coming!

  • @bboy6ify
    @bboy6ify 5 лет назад +1

    Enlightening!

  • @Emilioh888
    @Emilioh888 6 лет назад +1

    Very good video. Thank you

  • @sharonerhuchannel1223
    @sharonerhuchannel1223 3 года назад

    Your explanation is clear and impressive! I get more ideas about composition! Great work!

  • @Cocoodla
    @Cocoodla 6 лет назад +1

    Keep it up! you deserve more subscribers, I´ve learned a lot with your videos :)

  • @alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897
    @alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897 5 лет назад +1

    How about a series on the different periods. Romantic, Classical, Baroque, etc. Showing variations in styles and techniques of each period in contrast with the other period.

  • @hughesthere
    @hughesthere 4 года назад

    Life changing stuff. Really loving this!

  • @mmccrownus2406
    @mmccrownus2406 4 года назад

    All your stuff is superb. I just always wish you went into uch more detail, much longer presentations. God bless America and all.

  • @gobbledygoook
    @gobbledygoook 4 года назад +1

    Watched all the videos in the series and enjoyed it a lot, thank you very much for sharing your understanding of classical music with everyone.
    I am starting to like classical music more and more and I would like to plant the seeds of loving classical in my daughter was well. Do you have any ideas how I could achieve that ?

  • @frikkiejacobs8858
    @frikkiejacobs8858 3 года назад

    Thank you for doing these videos.

  • @ankitsinha5365
    @ankitsinha5365 5 лет назад

    Thank you man! Truly, thank you so much for this! I wish better and better ideas come to you!

  • @ajmittendorf
    @ajmittendorf 5 лет назад +1

    Cool! With MY "like" the video went from 1.9K to 2K. It's like the golden click.

  • @Vincent-ct7ik
    @Vincent-ct7ik 2 года назад

    Merci !

  • @joseph.r1122
    @joseph.r1122 3 года назад

    Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @ping-enhungmusic3341
    @ping-enhungmusic3341 3 года назад

    Please more !! (Although I found this video after 2 years)

  • @sergio_slzar
    @sergio_slzar 5 лет назад +1

    Great channel, keep it up!

  • @BenjaminKallestein
    @BenjaminKallestein 6 лет назад +1

    This channel is amazing! Keep up the good work!

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  6 лет назад

      Thank you - means a lot. Needed to hear that today, been wondering whether it's worth making more :P

    • @BenjaminKallestein
      @BenjaminKallestein 6 лет назад +1

      Of course it's worth it! Though, musical analysis might be a bit of a niche market as far as youtube is concerned. You could try to explore Jazz, pop and rock to maybe secure a bigger audience? Just a thought. Either way, you've got my attention and subscription! :)

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  6 лет назад +1

      Not gonna happen - not my areas. I'll stick to Classical and Film Music for now

  • @jasonyan7697
    @jasonyan7697 4 года назад

    Such a wonderful video!

  • @sassounsassoun7068
    @sassounsassoun7068 4 года назад

    So inspiring thank you

  • @timjohnson2186
    @timjohnson2186 2 месяца назад

    Ty

  • @adelinesim7613
    @adelinesim7613 4 года назад

    Great video! Hope for more!

  • @LordesQ
    @LordesQ 5 лет назад

    Great video, thank you!

  • @RD-ANGELIAFOROSS
    @RD-ANGELIAFOROSS 4 года назад

    Don't know if you're religious-if not don't take this the bad way please-but trough classical i can pursuit the virtuos path of true beauty, and the knowledge that you give away from free is echacing this metaphisical experience. Sorry for the divagation, but, the poit is:Thank you for all this, you don't have idea how this been helping me...

  • @shayanyadegari811
    @shayanyadegari811 Год назад

    Generally I love the classical music the most, but after watching this video I feel like next time I'm gonna listen a lot more effectively.

  • @almuel
    @almuel 5 лет назад

    This was great. I’m glad I subscribed :)

  • @djtomt
    @djtomt 25 дней назад

    Amazing. Who ARE you? Where did you come from? I want to know more... Your videos are GREAT!

  • @selftaughtmusicguide
    @selftaughtmusicguide 5 лет назад

    Awesome!

  • @filharmonix
    @filharmonix 5 лет назад +1

    I compose classical pieces myself, and I must say I have used musical seeds without even knowing I was.

  • @jameswebber-salmon7105
    @jameswebber-salmon7105 6 лет назад +2

    Hi there, these are some wonderful videos you post. Thanks for sharing and being a content creator :) I'm a content creator also, and I know how hard it can be, and how rewarding.
    I am getting into composing full scores, and am especially insterested in film scores and classical music, particularly the specific techniques and theory each uses. I know this is a broad area, so I am looking for something that would cover it broadly. Will you recommend some books to read to get really in depth into these areas? I would appreciate it hugely. Thanks

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  6 лет назад +1

      Oof. I don't think I'm the man to advise you. I mean yes, that is a broad area. As for theory and composition techniques in Classical music, I LOVE the Taruskin Oxford History volumes, particularly volumes 3 and 4. Some people resent them because it's very much 'Taruskin's' view of music history, but I think they're a great blend of history and analysis.
      As for film music, there are great videos online. The Spitfire Audio channels have tutorials, and there are loads of other channels with film analyses. Also Think Space Education - I just discovered this channel and its great. Don't know about books to be honest

    • @jameswebber-salmon7105
      @jameswebber-salmon7105 6 лет назад

      @@InsidetheScore Ok, thanks for the leads :)

  • @shardumachal
    @shardumachal 5 лет назад +1

    Please make video on how to read notation

    • @swaroov9236
      @swaroov9236 5 лет назад +3

      dude you need a teacher without teacher very difficult

  • @willlexie
    @willlexie 4 года назад

    TWOSET VIOLIN BROUGHT ME HERE

  • @FutureStoics
    @FutureStoics 5 лет назад

    This really helps to put my energies in check when I’m trading forex

  • @el7284
    @el7284 5 лет назад +2

    Do you have anything on renaissance music?

  • @templemu
    @templemu 5 лет назад

    Which comes first; the chords or the motiff, I mean my sketch book has a bunch of motiffs, or motives as they are called in the USA; I like that word though, because it asks the question: what do these simple notes motivate you to do next?

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  5 лет назад

      Watch Leonard Bernstein's documentary on Beethoven's Fifth - it's on RUclips in Black and White. He shows how Beethoven sketched out and wrote loads of drafts, all coming from one tiny little motif

  • @johnnynoirman
    @johnnynoirman 5 лет назад

    Analysis of More modern composers music like Elliott Carter, Roger Sessions, Roy Harris, Milton Babbitt ect.

  • @ThePhreakass
    @ThePhreakass 5 лет назад +2

    How do you switch to another key and get back effectively? Is there any video you can recommend on that? I have been creating music by either composing in the same key or using samples for 8 years now. This is a major issue that I feel keeps hindering me to reach my full potential

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  5 лет назад +1

      I know what you mean - this can be problematic with modern music - the traditional solution would be study masters, like buy Reger's book on Modulation, or study Beethoven piano sonatas or something. A later solution would be study someone like Wagner, or even Mahler - perhaps get piano reductions of their symphonies/operas to play through and work out how they're shifting through different keys in a more modern style.
      It's not easy to make a simple video on because it seems like there are infinite ways of changing keys, some more effective or powerful or suitable than others

    • @ThePhreakass
      @ThePhreakass 5 лет назад

      @@InsidetheScore Thanks for your response. I will look into it. It just became an issue for me lately because I felt that after writing many songs you feel like you are trapped in a cage by using the same key during the whole song. You know the progressions you have learned in school and that's it. But I think the true art is when you break up those patterns. That's why I also like experimental Hip Hop, because it plays with what is commonlöy accepted. I hope I'll get the gist of it in a few years.

  • @balajprasanna
    @balajprasanna 4 года назад

    Is there a link for the other video he mentions @1:47? Please help.

  • @emilie1370
    @emilie1370 5 лет назад

    This made me remember Benjamin Zander

  • @sherifkandeel
    @sherifkandeel 4 года назад

    Dude, where have you been my entire life!!
    I would like to ask you a question, is there a video where you describe your background or musical education? what kind of credibility do you have...etc I would like to back your video arguments to friends :)

  • @conforzo
    @conforzo 5 лет назад

    My compositional struggle is that I have a bucket of seeds, I have one hand with 2 fingers and I'm blind. So I pick up one seed then blindly pickup another place it and listen to it. Often a piece just does not get a sound structure and it's scrapped.

  • @victornoagbodji
    @victornoagbodji 5 лет назад

    i think i have heard that beethoven prelude before, wasn't it used in a ave maria song?

  • @pastorXal
    @pastorXal 3 месяца назад

    This vid explains why pop music is forgettable (predictable & repetative chords) and how classical music (thoughtfully crafted notation) is so memorable.

  • @tiak1343
    @tiak1343 4 года назад +1

    Anyone else have to watch this for band?

  • @javicamacho5636
    @javicamacho5636 5 лет назад

    whose is this recording of Chopin e minor?

  • @wendy3212
    @wendy3212 5 лет назад +1

    is the sound a semitone lower than what's presented on the sheet music or is it just me? throws me off.

    • @conni1392
      @conni1392 5 лет назад

      mmmm perfect pitch?

  • @FutureStoics
    @FutureStoics 5 лет назад

    Isn’t this a form of Fibonacci sequence?

  • @lisanderpiano
    @lisanderpiano 6 месяцев назад

    you talked about Liszt Liebestraum and not his MASSIVE piano Sonata

  • @nowananda
    @nowananda 4 года назад +1

    Benjamin Zander's Ted Talk contains a beautiful analysis of that Chopin prelude:
    ruclips.net/video/r9LCwI5iErE/видео.html
    and I also loved your video - keep going.

  • @trumancremers6337
    @trumancremers6337 4 года назад

    no

  • @willlexie
    @willlexie 4 года назад

    TWOSET VIOLIN BROUGHT ME HERE