Ys III: Wanderers from Ys (The Oath in Felghana) - The Black Sheep of Ys?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @franciscor390
    @franciscor390 Год назад +20

    Always appreciate the passion and respect that Xygor shows to these amazing games. Love the Ys saga.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Thanks Franco, glad you liked it!

  • @DJMicroNaught
    @DJMicroNaught Год назад +9

    This was the first Ys game I played, so I have a soft spot for it. My friend got it on Genesis and as a couple kids we of course called it 'Wize'. So many great memories of afternoons spent playing Ys III! Thanks for the nostalgia rush!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching, and for sharing your memories of it here!

  • @Jaded_Spawn
    @Jaded_Spawn Год назад +9

    Was a staunch rental for me and also my introduction to the Ys series. Agree about the soundtrack, it was 16 bit pure perfection.

  • @guiltysparkplug3856
    @guiltysparkplug3856 Год назад +4

    Ys is where I feel in love with games🥰

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Great to hear that!

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee434 Год назад +2

    The remake's a beauty. Didn't even know it existed.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      I think so too! Really well done one.

    • @morrison22
      @morrison22 Месяц назад

      Ps5 version incoming Jan 7 2025

  • @rebelspark86
    @rebelspark86 Год назад +2

    "Plow through every area with ys" lol made me chuckle

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +2

      See what I did there?

  • @lawrencemcstephens308
    @lawrencemcstephens308 Год назад +1

    Another great retrospective/review, Xygor! I remember watching the review of the Oath of Felghana, and I was glad to see that Ys III was given so much love in the modern era. I first rented the Super Nintendo version over Easter back in the early to mid-90s, and playing it at my grandparents camp while the adults were visiting in the kitchen. In the early 2000s I found the Sega Genesis version at a resale shop and purchased it, since I remembered playing it years before. I had started playing the bass around the time that I found the Genesis version, and I grew to love the Genesis soundtrack more than the Super Nintendo version. That synth slap bass that plays in the background of most of the songs on the Genesis version just captivated me more. I even attempted to learn how to play some of them, but it's almost like you need to have four arms like Goro from Mortal Kombat to be able to play them since they're so fast! In any case, it is one of my all-time favorite games! I noticed, though, that you didn't mention in the review that the invincibility frames for Adol are non-existent and you can die in about 2 seconds if you walk into the middle of an enemy or boss! This is a truly overlooked game, and an awesome one at that, even with its flaws!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Thank you, and appreciate all your memories from this one!

  • @Eener1000
    @Eener1000 Год назад +2

    for me Ys3 is actually the one that most stands out in a good way.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Great to hear that!

  • @chrono2483
    @chrono2483 Год назад +4

    OMG OMG OMG. The best of the series, and one of the best SNES games (imo). The gameplay, the music, the story, (the way you can easily level up); very excited for this video.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Hope you liked it!

  • @LordSephleon
    @LordSephleon Год назад

    This game (on SNES) actually introduced me to the Ys series. I read about it first in one of those "Unauthorized Game Secrets" books of the time, and then rented it in Blockbuster to play it myself. Ended up buying my own copy, which I still have. There are some timeless songs specifically from this game that I still listen to.
    Thanks for covering this game!

  • @charlesmathieucharro
    @charlesmathieucharro Год назад +3

    I remember putting an heavy object on the hit button and let the sword attacking continuously at the respawning flies at the beginning of the first dungeon to grind experiences for hours while i was away

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Haha, I didn’t know about that!

  • @ChaoticHoly
    @ChaoticHoly Год назад +1

    I remember seeing Ys Book I for the PC-CD at Toys R Us and falling in love with it, so the moment Ys III came out I rushed to rent it, and loved it even more. Was so happy to get it on sale for only $25, then getting the Genesis version a few years later. Had multiple arguments over the years about how the series name is pronounced - so glad you got it right!!

  • @ILoveThisBlank
    @ILoveThisBlank Год назад +1

    Ooo, I like the new end card!

  • @eduardo0379
    @eduardo0379 Год назад +1

    I never cared much for the SNES version of Ys III back in the day but man how I enjoy Oath in Felghana. I bought Oath in Felghana and Ys I&II Chronicles for PC many years ago and that was my true start with the Ys series.

  • @rruhland
    @rruhland Год назад +1

    I love this game so much. I played the heck out of it as a kid on the SNES.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Wasn’t it a classic?

  • @airtioteclint
    @airtioteclint Год назад +1

    I've never played the original but the psp remake remains my favorite of the series. Lacrimosa was great but it started going the route of the trails series. Quests. Lots and lots of quests. It's the reason why I never finished monstrum.

  • @Dermetsu
    @Dermetsu Год назад +2

    I had the Sega version of YsIII and loved it. And you are correct that the psp remake was pretty good too.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Glad you remember that one! I never played the Genesis version.

  • @geraq0
    @geraq0 Год назад +2

    1:55 Would you say you can't plow through every area with Ys? Okay, I'll see myself out. Thanks for the heads-up about the remake, I'm gonna check it out!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +2

      Haha good stuff! And thanks!

  • @Memememe-is1yn
    @Memememe-is1yn Год назад +2

    In the SNES version, use a rubber band on your attack button in the first cave where a bug respawns on the other end of the screen when it is killed. Leave it alone for 5 hours. Congratulations, you actually have a chance to start the game. Also, if you have epilepsy, don't bother fighting against the final boss. The flashing in the background is famous for being the most blatant attempt at distracting the player during a fight ever.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Haha, didn't know that trick! Thanks.

  • @Valkod23
    @Valkod23 Год назад

    I remember buying Ys III back in the day and it was my only real entry into the franchise until the Steam version of Oath in Felghana, I enjoyed it almost as much as Secret of Evermore, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, and Super Mario RPG, which is very high praise from me.

  • @TacothunderYT
    @TacothunderYT Год назад +1

    Even with D4 out Xygor is still pumping out bangers

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Haha, thanks!

  • @Aramakie98
    @Aramakie98 Год назад

    I was gifted this one holiday season and, while I had yet to play any of the other entrees at the time, I really enjoyed it. I think it was last year that I was made aware of the PS2 remake; it looks like a lot of fun, I may have to put it on my short list.

  • @ophidianmind333
    @ophidianmind333 Год назад

    I know some people consider Ys III a black sheep game (though not as much so as Ys V, that game got huge fan backlash when it was released) but I love the game (and I also love Ys V as well). It's also a game that I've seen a lot of polarized options about not just regarding the gameplay or the quality of the overall game, but even regarding something like the difficulty. I've seen many people, including some popular RPG RUclipsrs, talk about how insanely difficult this game is when I'm someone who thinks the game is incredibly easy for the most part. If you get to level 16 as early as possible an learn that almost every boss in the game can be cheesed just by using the Power Ring and thrusting at them from a certain angle, doing this will take most of them down in a few seconds. The only parts of the game I think are really challenging are the final boss and some parts of the Turbo CD version that include some deceptively tricky platforming.
    Which console version of the game someone plays might also make a difference in what kind of experience a player has with the game. As someone who has beaten the Turbo CD, SNES, and Genesis versions multiple times each, I think the Genesis version is definitely the best of the three because it plays far more smoothly than the others and the soundtrack sounds excellent on the Genesis soundchip.
    As for The Oath in Felghana, I think that's one of the best games in the Ys series and it is also one of the most challenging. If there are people complaining about this game being too hard, I could actually understand where they are coming from even though I personally love the challenge. Even easy mode in this game provides enough of a challenge for me to find it engaging and I'm someone who tends to prefer a higher level of difficulty in games than the average player tends to. I really hope it doesn't take too long for the remastered version of it on the Switch to be released in the West, I'm very excited for it.

  • @SlyHikari03
    @SlyHikari03 2 месяца назад

    I like Felghana more than 3 tbh, the arranged music by Yukihiro Jindo adds alot of charm to it.
    Also, Cynthia my beloved, could literally stay in the shop due to the music being so good.

  • @bearzma1
    @bearzma1 Год назад +1

    Always one of my favorite games to rent. OST is awesome and different for each version and I have them all on my playlist.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Glad to hear it!

  • @BDBD16
    @BDBD16 Год назад +1

    This is one of those series I've known for as long as it exist but never played it or had the consoles to play it on.

  • @ronnydzaster5279
    @ronnydzaster5279 Год назад

    I loved this game as a kid. I used to call it Wanderers From Y. S. because back in the 90s we didn't have the internet so I never heard anyone say Eeezz lol.

  • @Lamasis2
    @Lamasis2 Год назад

    I never played the original but the remake didn't hamper my enjoyment when I started the series and finished every aviable game in less than 3 months.

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone422 Год назад +1

    I played through Ys 1 & 2 on the TG-16 CD back in the day and absolutely loved them even with the whole bump to attack mechanic. However, I tried out Ys 3 on the SNES afterwards and just couldn't get into it. I did happen to see the end of the game though as I had rented it and someone wrote a password down that took you right near the end with a fully buffed Adol. I did however, like the music in Ys 3. Maybe I should give it another shot this summer.

  • @sylehu7056
    @sylehu7056 Год назад +1

    Y's OST always had been fantastic. (At least until the 4th one as I have not played 5th and later realeases)
    From my point of View this is definitely the biggest strenght of the series.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      I agree, the modern ones have truly rocking soundtracks too!

  • @an3582
    @an3582 Год назад +1

    One of my favorite SNES games! I couldn't get into the remake because of the changed perspective. I love top down games but I would have preferred a more faithful take that kept the 2d side scrolling aspect.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Glad to know people still love the original! Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

  • @darkeye1000
    @darkeye1000 8 месяцев назад

    One the greatest snes soundtracks ever

  • @uberpinkwarrior
    @uberpinkwarrior Год назад +1

    I never played the original, but the remake was my first Ys game. It didn't really click with me at the time, but I ended up getting super into 8, then went back through the series. Attempt 2: very good game! Can't decide if I like it or Origin more. (Personally, I feel Origin does gameplay better, while Oath in Felghana does story and progression better. Since the gameplay difference between the 2 isn't massive, all personal preference.)
    I have now played every Ys game currently in the timeline (meaning skipped Wanderers and the 2 original attempts at Ys 4, but I've played Ys 5). Fantastic series, am super hype for Ys X: Boatventures. I feel a dive in 5 with the fan translation would be an interesting time. Ys 4 would be great, but that is a good deal of time.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Sounds like you're a huge Ys fan! Thanks for leaving your thoughts here.

    • @uberpinkwarrior
      @uberpinkwarrior Год назад

      @@Xygor I actually had a particularly special time with Ys 8. When I played it, I was getting burnt out on video games. Ys 8, being a relatively simple game with fun gameplay, a fun story, fun characters, and just... Almost more pure, reignited my love of video games. To me, Ys is the franchise that made me remember what I love about gaming, at a point where I almost quit video games entirely.
      If you are curious, I love that feeling of just exploring these strange settings, seeing what people came up with. I don't need super complex systems, I want to be able to just immerse myself in exploring these worlds.
      Ys 8 to me felt almost like a glimpse into an alternate world where, in the PS2 era, game companies focused on refining the ideas of that era, instead of focusing on ever expanding budgets and scale and graphics. "What if we just focus on making a good game that fits within the scope of our budget/team size?"

  • @nanoglitch6693
    @nanoglitch6693 Год назад +1

    I played it back in the day on SNES. I didn't really care for it but that soundtrack definitely slaps 😎

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Yes it does!

  • @ShadowArtist
    @ShadowArtist Год назад +1

    I LOVE Ys III on the Sega Genesis, the music sounds 100x better on the genesis/Megadrive, and there's a awesome Level up cheat that when used can instantly raise Adol's lvls to any EXP lvl you want, even to maximum, so with the excessive xp griding reduced or no longer a problem, the game becomes extremely easy BUT also very very fun. One can use the Level Up cheat to reduce your level if one feels things are a bit too easy.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Thanks for your thoughts on the Genesis version!

  • @theinitiate110
    @theinitiate110 Год назад +1

    I remember I got this when it was released on the SNES. Being a huge FF fan I thought this was going to be an epic adventure.
    I was so disappointed when I beat it in less than a day.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Definitely a different approach than FF!

  • @Ragitsu
    @Ragitsu Год назад +1

    It's criminal how this series flew under the radar compared to _Final Fantasy_ .

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Agreed!

  • @juanortiz9123
    @juanortiz9123 Год назад +1

    The only one that i finished 😅

  • @nworder4life
    @nworder4life Год назад +1

    This game looks awesome.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      It’s worth trying for sure!

  • @morrison22
    @morrison22 Месяц назад +1

    So wait… the upcoming ps5 game oath in felghana is this game but remade?

  • @TexasHollowEarth
    @TexasHollowEarth Год назад +1

    Still own my original TurboGrafx CD copies of Ys Book I&II + Ys III 👍

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Nice, that's probably one of the best collector's items for the system!

  • @heinrichzwirbler4748
    @heinrichzwirbler4748 11 месяцев назад +1

    I am doing my 1st time ever playthrough of the main Titels of the Series. Had great fun up till now playing theese games! The Soundtrack of each single game are so good, I have a realy great time grinding ^^
    But, I rly dislike the english dubs... I disabled them.
    Nice Video! Keep it up !

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @ROK6
    @ROK6 Год назад +1

    Ys V is definitely the black Sheep of the series, still Loved it Though I love the series in total!!!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      I will review that one soon!

  • @chadgarrett6947
    @chadgarrett6947 9 месяцев назад

    I thought it was Why's and not EEse like geese when I was a kid lol I actually quite liked this game and never got to play any of the others until many years later.

  • @jamesoffutt2801
    @jamesoffutt2801 Год назад +1

    When will you cover some Sierra on line games?

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Maybe someday. I didn’t play them a ton, but I did like some of the King’s Quest games.

  • @charaznable8072
    @charaznable8072 Год назад

    Oh man I remember I had this when I was like 4 or 5 it was so hard I never beat it.

  • @Marc_Araujo
    @Marc_Araujo Год назад +1

    Ys III: Wanderers from Ys is incredibly underrated...and it's best on the TG-CD.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      Yep, such an underrated classic!

    • @Marc_Araujo
      @Marc_Araujo Год назад

      ​​​​@@Xygor I still wish that Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys got an officially translated Western release on the TG-CD back in the day. I really regret never being able to play that.

    • @ddaodao9332
      @ddaodao9332 Год назад +1

      TG-CD soundtrack is awesome

  • @Wanderer1200
    @Wanderer1200 Год назад

    Great game with one of the best soundtracks of its era. I especially recommend the PC Engine/ Turbografx version because it has better sound and presentation than the Snes version and has less grinding. In fact, both the Megadrive version and the PC Engine version are usually considered better than the Snes version. I feel that the slightly sloppy Snes port (which is probably the one most people played) and the steep difficulty curve at the start of the game are some of the main reasons for its bad reputation. If you can get past that though, it's a super fun game on any system.

  • @ItsGroundhogDay
    @ItsGroundhogDay Год назад

    This is the only Ys I actually played. I thought it was fine, though I don't have a reference to the rest of the series.

  • @galloe8933
    @galloe8933 Год назад

    I rented Wanderers from Whys, as a young child, and didn't like it too much. I was in the middle of hating Zelda 2 for not being like Zelda 1, I had just played it that year and felt betrayed. The box art of Wanderers from Whys made me want to try it, but the side scrolling hack and slash of the bad Zelda made me hate it.
    Coming back round as a grown up, I just always called it "Whys" and many a kid on the playground had other ways of saying it, but it was so long ago, that I think I will just keep calling that game "Wanderers from Whys" like I did in the sixth grade, and it can stay that way. Also, Zelda 2 is an alright game, though as a child I was a little pissed about Zelda 2 not being a clone of the first. I got over it, I respect that Zelda, and still hate using a hammer to cut down a tree tile to find a town in a forest.
    Can we all agree that, that was stupid? I mean, between Nintendo power, and hint books, how would any kid know to cut a forest down with a hammer? I don't know, never liked that one bit, seemed even more vague to me than kneeling down by some water to have a tornado carry you away... The hammer thing with the forest? Way worse...
    I'm off track, I meant to say that I never gave that game a fair shake, and don't know if I ever will. Damn, though, my memory of the last time I played this game is old enough to buy me a beer.

  • @chaospoet
    @chaospoet Год назад

    I don't think it's considered the black sheep because of it's change in game play so much as because we here in the West wouldn't see another YS game until YS 6: The Ark of Napishtim on PS2. That didn't really have so much to do with how this one was received so much as a LOT of changes that happened to Falcom. Mostly because of this game as it originally wasn't supposed to be an YS game and that caused a vast majority of the Falcom staff to quit over that decision requiring the company to basically start over. Most people have no idea about that history with the company so they just blame it on this game and sales numbers. I think if the company had remained the same after this game came out we would have gotten YS 4 and 5 here too.
    As for the game I love it! Never played the SNES version. I have the Genesis version. I love this game's soundtrack. I might love it even more than YS 1 and 2's soundtracks. My ONLY complaint, which is the same with the remake Oath in Felgana, is the end boss. In my opinion, THE hardest boss fight in ALL of YS. I've managed to beat Oath after an unholy amount of tries and even with the entire fight memorized and the timing down it's still really hard. I've NEVER beat the original. I don't know if they made the Genesis version harder, but the hit box on the boss is so small to this day I still don't know where even is. Yet Adol's hit box seems to get bigger just for that fight. I jump to hit the boss and instantly die. When I bust it out and replay it I'm fine until I get to the end and after 5-10 tries on that boss if it doesn't happen (which it never has) I quit and I'm fine with just reaching the boss.

  • @jonhard12
    @jonhard12 Год назад

    Ys 3 release was when falcom is having hard time in their company
    Falcom did a pretty good job for the remake
    At least no matter when they release their games the music is always good

  • @ShadowArtist
    @ShadowArtist Год назад +1

    YS is pronounced like "Fleece" but without the F L

  • @SiliconSlyWolf
    @SiliconSlyWolf Год назад

    Ys 3 was the first I had access to, and without it, I may have never been interested in the series. When I finally got to play the NES Ys 1, it was about 5 minutes, and I did not like it. Later Ys 6 came out, fulfilled more of what I loved from Ys 3, and then we just got many new games and better ports again and again. I would consider Ys 3 my favorite of them all, with Ys 6 and Ys 7 being in a fight for second and third favorite.

  • @andrexg.7559
    @andrexg.7559 Год назад

    I´ve heard some people pronounce it as "yeez" 🤔

  • @jeremygreen2883
    @jeremygreen2883 Год назад +2

    So, you can't just plow through this game with "Y's", ehh???

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      I guess you could say that!

  • @MAGNUMMU5TACHE
    @MAGNUMMU5TACHE Год назад +1

    I loved that game. The part with the skeletons was annoying.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      Sure was!

  • @TheLordofPain
    @TheLordofPain Год назад +1

    When I rented this for SNES, I thought it was pronounced "Y.S." I was 9, ok?

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад

      I can’t blame you!

  • @standingbearwhisky
    @standingbearwhisky Год назад +1

    You can't just plow through this with.....y's lol

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Год назад +1

      See what I did there?

  • @bernardschaeffer8000
    @bernardschaeffer8000 Год назад

    i prefer the snes version

  • @Sparkbomber
    @Sparkbomber Год назад

    The Oath remake was a fun little game... but not that memorable, unfortunately.

  • @rickgrimes3479
    @rickgrimes3479 11 месяцев назад

    😂 it's not pronounced ease also. It's properly pronounced eese.