How Women Kept A 3,000-Year-Old Pottery Tradition Alive In Tunisia | Still Standing

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @pushing2throttles
    @pushing2throttles 2 года назад +319

    Telling the story of these artists, hopefully immortalizes this facet of the cultural heritage of the sejnane. What wonderful women! Such an intelligent way to make the art.

  • @stankythecat6735
    @stankythecat6735 2 года назад +108

    I love their clothing … it’s so beautiful. The dolls are stunning .

  • @mohamedouhibi5389
    @mohamedouhibi5389 2 года назад +253

    1:21 she never said "they refuse to work with clay and get their hands dirty."
    a better translation would be: "since the dawn of time this has been a woman's job."

    • @agathachris9722
      @agathachris9722 2 года назад +68

      Exactly! Hate when these people get translation wrong. She says men don't do this work, women has been doing this work with clay since a long time.

    • @fez284
      @fez284 2 года назад +9

      Even if it's a poor translation, the point of men not wanting to do the work stays the same. It's still really silly that men won't do the work.

    • @mohamedouhibi5389
      @mohamedouhibi5389 2 года назад +38

      @@fez284 no. thats why i complained about it in the first place. so people don't get it wrong like you did.
      what she was saying was this work was traditionally always done by women. it's not that men refuse to work it, it's just a tradition only women practice.

    • @fez284
      @fez284 2 года назад +15

      @@mohamedouhibi5389 How do you think it became a woman only tradition? The women were obviously not gatekeeping it since we can see they wanted to teach it to boys as Jomma is doing now. If the women were ok with passing it to the the men, but it didn't happen, obviously men didn't want to do it.

    • @its4481
      @its4481 2 года назад +8

      @@fez284 That is because pottery is a job that can be done at home in safety while the men were plowing the fields or working in town to earn their living.

  • @RpaRalte
    @RpaRalte 2 года назад +49

    I always comes to this channel to chill, to listen to the narrator's voice is so peaceful!

  • @isha_sadhguru_follower5896
    @isha_sadhguru_follower5896 2 года назад +229

    Involving global customers into the art is a tremendous help to ensure the long-term survival of the tradition. If traditions are only regional and new generations don't appreciate them, they have no chance to be passed on and are lost completely. But with modern interpretations or traditional interpretations and a profit this has a better future.
    I like the idea that simple people who dedicate their lifes to handcraft have a competitive chance in the 21st century.

    • @zzing
      @zzing 2 года назад +5

      I wonder if certain parts can be modernized to make the task easier, and more attractive to the young.

    • @z.a.y.n-5053
      @z.a.y.n-5053 2 года назад +5

      If someone figured it out once, who's to say lost traditions can't be rediscovered. We humans are very intelligent for our world, I'd reckon people will experiment with anything and new results will be established. That's just my opinion

    • @Founderschannel123
      @Founderschannel123 2 года назад +2

      @@zzing damn thats the same excat idea that i was thinking.Imagine outting more vibrant colours to the statue based on the traditional designs they put in.

  • @alaedd8653
    @alaedd8653 2 года назад +47

    Proud of my country’s women and the pieces of art they’re making 🇹🇳✌🏻

  • @marwansal4175
    @marwansal4175 2 года назад +25

    الله يعطيهن العافيه ويرزقهم. حرفة رائعة من تونس الجميلة.

  • @sustainablelivingschool12
    @sustainablelivingschool12 2 года назад +26

    Women are SO incredible - sending love to all sisters out there who love what they do and are sharing their skill and knowledge with younger generations. This video was so beautiful ....just natural processes....no plastic..just love

  • @user-kp5uy8vd8o
    @user-kp5uy8vd8o 2 года назад +81

    I'm sure facotry work is also hard manual labor but I can't imagine it being as fulfilling as pottery making.
    Good for these women

    • @anonikys
      @anonikys 2 года назад +6

      I had the same thought. Prefer to work in a factory? Really? They probably don't earn as much there either. The 80 year old artist is goals! I love working alone and slowly too. Wish I could afford to do it full time 😓

    • @aj-sz8mu
      @aj-sz8mu 2 года назад +3

      its guaranteed pay vs unknown pay with art.

  • @zhisu2665
    @zhisu2665 2 года назад +49

    Majority of the oldest surviving works of civilizations have been cave paintings and pottery. people don't appreciate the importance of these things until its too late so glad they try to retain and keep it going.

  • @yaoming7762
    @yaoming7762 2 года назад +63

    i honestly hope this series never comes to an end. i never seem to get tired of learning about these.

    • @alexanderscott1680
      @alexanderscott1680 2 года назад

      S so we will l

    • @SevenHunnid
      @SevenHunnid 2 года назад +1

      I’m just a young mexican stoner that smokes weed on my RUclips channel, tryna me it out the hood One Day… When i look at the top , there is NO mexicans ):

    • @silpapatnaik7944
      @silpapatnaik7944 2 года назад +1

      So true dear...
      I always feel happy watching series

  • @ripplerxeon
    @ripplerxeon 2 года назад +29

    Please continue this series .... It's so beautiful .... It's so good to learn these things and the hardship they face...

  • @solless2504
    @solless2504 2 года назад +74

    Beautiful women making even more beautiful pottery! Would love to buy a piece.

    • @Anne--Marie
      @Anne--Marie 2 года назад +2

      There is a link for you to purchase in the description area.

    • @nedthemumbler9942
      @nedthemumbler9942 2 года назад +3

      Piece of Rim!!!!! She’s beautiful

  • @fez284
    @fez284 2 года назад +9

    I'm so happy Jomma pushed the boundaries and made her beautiful art. Don't let people bind you into a box.

  • @julientyt
    @julientyt 2 года назад +9

    I''ve been a ceramicist for twenty years and this is the most inspirational thing I've ever seen.

  • @cesargalicia7700
    @cesargalicia7700 2 года назад +4

    I am glad that there is people that are keeping their art culture. Beautiful😍

  • @Dawsons89
    @Dawsons89 2 года назад +18

    Absolutely beautiful works of art!

  • @nunyabiznes33
    @nunyabiznes33 2 года назад +8

    Selling directly to customers really make a difference in income. I hope the pieces eventually earn enough to encourage more of the younger people to take up the craft.

  • @arcie3716
    @arcie3716 2 года назад +3

    The stories these women tell are beautiful. I hope the tradition stays alive. When I get a higher paying job I’ll probably buy some of their work 💕

  • @thetwelve5922
    @thetwelve5922 2 года назад +23

    I loved how she is so proud of her daughter :)

  • @nooralmalaka.k.amonasarrai5995
    @nooralmalaka.k.amonasarrai5995 2 года назад +7

    Thank you 🙏 so much for the documentary. This is Nooralmalak from Tunisia 🇹🇳. These women definitely deserve recognition.

  • @bernandinocamilo1946
    @bernandinocamilo1946 2 года назад +7

    Just increible, wonderful the continuation of tradition.

  • @sithyiqbal9087
    @sithyiqbal9087 2 года назад +2

    Beautiful. Greetings from Sri Lanka!

  • @tasnimmosref
    @tasnimmosref 7 месяцев назад +1

    Proud of our beautiful women and our multicolor country 🇹🇳🕊️

  • @dinobuddy
    @dinobuddy 2 года назад +60

    Boy, you'd think unemployed husband could at least help with collecting the clay.

    • @Thatsme849
      @Thatsme849 2 года назад

      yeah what a useless bum lol

    • @hamdiben8163
      @hamdiben8163 2 года назад +1

      How do you know his state?

    • @pratiksingh1714
      @pratiksingh1714 Год назад +9

      @@hamdiben8163 because she said men refuse to get their hands dirty to help!

  • @adiluarez788
    @adiluarez788 2 года назад +2

    It always makes me so 💓 seeing so much I haven't seen before I'm in total amazement how much beautiful ppl, stories and art is waiting out there

  • @johnnycortiz
    @johnnycortiz 2 года назад +3

    1:15 “They refuse to work with clay and get their hands dirty.” The shade! 😂

  • @epicaddictions17
    @epicaddictions17 2 года назад +43

    I know they are seeking out younger generations from their culture to keep the craft alive but im a ceramic major im sure people in the us or anywhere would die to be a part of this. Some people love clay and getting their hands dirty

    • @Sarah-ic4yu
      @Sarah-ic4yu 2 года назад +2

      Omg I have been looking for info on how a certain type of ceramics is made, could you help me?

    • @Vibetonight-u8z
      @Vibetonight-u8z 2 года назад +4

      It's not about getting your hands dirty It's just so cheap
      You work for 8 hours on pottery that's going to be sold at 1.5 dollars and that's in a good days

    • @Anne--Marie
      @Anne--Marie 2 года назад +1

      Maybe one of your university professors could arrange a trip for the students.

  • @hasna.h1137
    @hasna.h1137 2 года назад +4

    My sweet country Tunisia 🇹🇳

  • @Toastedtasty42
    @Toastedtasty42 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for sharing their story

  • @lindo7213
    @lindo7213 2 года назад +4

    Extremely fascinating, is a hard work to thats brave woman's, adorable.

  • @debbiemarquis3231
    @debbiemarquis3231 2 года назад +4

    She is truly an artist..

  • @edmundprice5276
    @edmundprice5276 2 года назад +16

    I would gladly buy some of her work over the internet, sadly I can't find anything

    • @lanad4862
      @lanad4862 2 года назад +3

      In the description, the link of her website is available

  • @makaveli444
    @makaveli444 2 года назад +13

    they did right by this women fr,having a piece sell for 7 CENTS its otterly ridiculous,Im glad shes able to make whats she worth.

  • @bravokarthik4655
    @bravokarthik4655 2 года назад +1

    May God be with you for your Creativity and love to your work

  • @achyka3802
    @achyka3802 2 года назад +1

    7:49 those plates look amazing 💕 I'd pay good money to get them into my kitchen

  • @thingstodo4736
    @thingstodo4736 2 года назад +2

    The pottery looks so beautiful!!!

  • @vivette8944
    @vivette8944 2 года назад +1

    Wonderful. I hope more young people take it up.🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

  • @lunes-1
    @lunes-1 2 года назад +9

    Love it,very artistic 😍

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    @месяц-б4ъ 2 года назад +3

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  • @donlitt
    @donlitt 2 года назад +8

    Damn I need one of those doll sculptures

  • @kiren3168
    @kiren3168 2 года назад +4

    That woman is amazing. Made me smile a lot. Thank you

  • @earlysundays9544
    @earlysundays9544 2 года назад +2

    Meltology at 7:54, most excellent. "Collateral" evidence.

  • @BadgerButterfly
    @BadgerButterfly 2 года назад +3

    inspirational, Beautiful to see these amazing women creating together their craft with such rich heritage.
    The world needs more of this creativity, togetherness working with the land it is pure magic. I wish them well.

  • @dksiksi
    @dksiksi 2 года назад +3

    tunisia is a beutiful country.and i am from it

  • @STREETFOODJOURNEY5
    @STREETFOODJOURNEY5 2 года назад +5

    this is amazing story

    • @TheTruth-mr3ml
      @TheTruth-mr3ml 11 месяцев назад

      this is Carthaginian only Carthaginian

  • @alexaskrammer5596
    @alexaskrammer5596 2 года назад +4

    Absolutely amazing work!

  • @Misster28
    @Misster28 2 года назад +1

    Mis mejores deseos para este negocio!

  • @amazingunboxinggg
    @amazingunboxinggg 2 года назад

    Such a nice video!!! You have a new subscriber here🍂💞🍂💞🍂💞🍂💞🍂💞🍂

  • @jyothisuda2147
    @jyothisuda2147 8 месяцев назад

    Very good ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @alparslankorkmaz2964
    @alparslankorkmaz2964 2 года назад +1

    Nice video.

  • @karenneill9109
    @karenneill9109 2 года назад

    We are entering a world where we Weill have mass produced products, and beautiful, handmade, unique items. Many people find doing this work is far more satisfying, and people will always want beautiful, unique objects.

  • @erikad0511
    @erikad0511 2 года назад +2

    I know this has nothing to do with the story buttt...grandma is 80 looking 50 something! These ladies look great for their ages, even after working in the sun for decades

    • @TH3USUALSUSPECT
      @TH3USUALSUSPECT 2 года назад +1

      My grandmother in Tunisia who passed away a few years back, refused to sit still at the age of 93, she would go out on her last days and hand pick olives in the heat, no one could stop her, her name was Aicha and she was beautiful inside and out, also had the amazigh face tattoos which added to her majestic aura.

  • @Abell_lledA
    @Abell_lledA 2 года назад +2

    One doesn’t experience self transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates ~ 🎈

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples 4 месяца назад

    I love the pottery.

  • @iancarlo331
    @iancarlo331 2 года назад

    maybe leave a website for customers willing to buy their product?

  • @illora125
    @illora125 2 года назад

    How may we purchase some of their beautiful products?

  • @icedragonair
    @icedragonair 2 года назад +2

    Theres places in japan too that specialize in pottery production. But its the opposite there. Only men make pottery and teach their sons, the women only dig the clay. Its very cultural. On the other hand im paying money to go to school and study ceramics in Canada, and we have a whole different culture too. Ceramics are an amazing field, especially from the point of view of culture. I dont think ive seen any other artform that has such a huge diversity of tradition and culture vitaly woven into it. You cant have a conversation about ceramics without having tradition be a huge part of it, even if were talking modern artist museum ceramics.
    The only other similar field that i think has this kind of complicated relationship between objects and art, is weaving and textile production. Unfortunately a lot of people still see this less as "art" though that is slowly changing. But it seems easier for people to accept ceramics as art than textiles as art.

  • @Jazzgin
    @Jazzgin Год назад +1

    Glad to see some Tunisians speaking Tunisian. I was ready to leave the video the moment i hear any French. No offense. Tunisians must be very very careful with their beautiful culture and language.

    • @suzukauzumaki7560
      @suzukauzumaki7560 4 месяца назад +1

      Tunisia’s original language was Tamazight not arabic. It was somehow erased due to the first president and arabization.

  • @itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808
    @itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808 2 года назад +2

    if they unemployed men don't want to touch the clay, maybe they should not touch the food it provides their households

  • @patoni860
    @patoni860 2 года назад +1

    In America that would be known as, the big come up... More power to you

  • @meenashi
    @meenashi 2 года назад

    How and where to buy this art ?

  • @lalejandro214
    @lalejandro214 2 года назад +1

    In the hood term literally “getting it out the mud”. Now that’s a real hustle

  • @fahmihilme8883
    @fahmihilme8883 2 года назад +16

    Husband: Unemployed for quite sometimes
    Wife & Daughter: Carry the burden to find money for family
    Reason of men not doing pottery job:
    1:18 Men firmly think that pottery is a job for women only
    Bravo Men of Tunisia for having this NONSENSE thought & shame on you for letting your wife and daughter to do all of the hard work just to ensure food are serve on the table 🙄🙄🙄

    • @Anne--Marie
      @Anne--Marie 2 года назад +4

      The men could do the lifting and carrying.

    • @its4481
      @its4481 2 года назад

      You dont know why the husband isnt working, maybe he has a medical condition. Women usually do the job that can be done at home , while men either go to town to look for work or plow the fields and look out for the cattle in rural tunisia.

    • @hamdiben8163
      @hamdiben8163 2 года назад

      Where are you from? so I can answer you correctly.

    • @Qwex1992
      @Qwex1992 2 года назад

      Husband: Unemployed for quite sometimes
      His mom: I taught my son this craft. He is even better than me!
      You: watched the video with your ass

  • @-BirdsRegion
    @-BirdsRegion 2 года назад +2

    Щегол хорошее настроение 🐦
    То же веду свой канал, певчие птицы💕

  • @blueboiiiiiii5671
    @blueboiiiiiii5671 2 года назад

    6 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS!!!! Keep up the good content, congrats :)

  • @deepchange2973
    @deepchange2973 2 года назад +1

    نفس لباس النساء الشاوية في الجزائر

  • @MomMom4Cubs
    @MomMom4Cubs 2 года назад +4

    Now that I know that real people still make Terra Cotta, I'll not buy machine made anymore. Thanx, Business Insider!!!

  • @anncabras3961
    @anncabras3961 2 года назад +4

    Poorly translated some of the things these women said! Please give it more effort to do this job more accurately

  • @udaykumarmaddu8242
    @udaykumarmaddu8242 2 года назад +1

    keepitup guys your are doing wonerful job

  • @razeenpandie1117
    @razeenpandie1117 2 года назад +2

    Her husband is unemployed but he cant even help his wife. He can collect the clay.

  • @yanniesse9417
    @yanniesse9417 2 года назад +2

    By the way aljia mean " Doll like " it's a berber name driven from the name "taaljatt" means "doll".and the funny thing the woman called doll makes dolls isn't that beautiful and so ironic. 🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @qwmx
    @qwmx 2 года назад +1

    Those men can't say "women are afraid to get their hands dirty", they think pottery is a women job. Women can say say men are afraid to get their hands dirty.

  • @LiwaySaGu
    @LiwaySaGu 2 года назад

    i want one of these dolls

  • @somethingredblue9235
    @somethingredblue9235 2 года назад +7

    Such style come from Minoan civilization, from the island of Crete. It shows how big spread of culture was even in 3000 BC!

    • @mooshinu
      @mooshinu 2 года назад +2

      It doesn't, it's from the Amazigh people

    • @AMR_k400
      @AMR_k400 2 года назад +1

      @૯౮คՈ૯ς८૯Ո੮
      It probably is minoan because in the brinze collapse many people from cretan (minoan) and othee Mediterranean origin or the seapeople spread around the middle east and northafrica this exact style of potter can be found as far as Ethiopia,which received some admixture from minoan or minoan like people,so this is the most probable explanation.

    • @somethingredblue9235
      @somethingredblue9235 2 года назад

      @@mooshinu you have a very curious point, several cultures share very similar styles. For example, pyramid structures have been found in South America since 100 BC in Amazon forest, also in Egypt, and even China. This can highlight two aspects, one would obviously be cultural exchange through trade. But other could be similar circumstances that followed events which birthed a lot of similar inspiration for art. Mural paintings are also a good point to examine similarities and differences between other cultures.

    • @TheTruth-mr3ml
      @TheTruth-mr3ml 11 месяцев назад

      @@mooshinu it's from the Carthaginian people not bla bla bla people

  • @alantreemedia1180
    @alantreemedia1180 2 года назад +2

    Hey ya!!

  • @AntoniaEsposito
    @AntoniaEsposito 2 года назад +1

    Cool!

  • @husseinsafa9015
    @husseinsafa9015 2 года назад

    The art is niceee

  • @windtreejournals5215
    @windtreejournals5215 2 года назад

    Does this pottery have some Greek influence? The patterns and color look similar. Was it possible for Greek traders to interact with Tunisia 3000 years ago?

    • @shrekwithawillsmithface465
      @shrekwithawillsmithface465 2 года назад +1

      Berber and greeks did influence each other

    • @its4481
      @its4481 2 года назад +2

      "Berber" is how the ancient greek used to call the indigenous people of north africa. Greece had colonies in libya and relations to many amazigh tribes in the region, so it is very likely both cultures influenced eachother.

    • @hamdiben8163
      @hamdiben8163 2 года назад +3

      Remember Carthage?

    • @its4481
      @its4481 2 года назад +1

      @@hamdiben8163 Greek states had relationships with north africa and colonies there far before carthage was founded. Many amazigh traditions are from greece and many greek tales and myths are originally amazigh.Both cultures influenced each other .

    • @namedrop721
      @namedrop721 2 года назад +3

      You’re kidding me, do you remember Carthage? The phoenicians? These people are the indigenous inhabitants of N. Africa before the Arabic Expansion….

  • @oreo_6206
    @oreo_6206 2 года назад

    very informative and fascinating mini documentary

  • @Vinlyguyx420x
    @Vinlyguyx420x 2 года назад

    She looks pretty good for 80!

  • @KepokLekor69
    @KepokLekor69 2 года назад

    i need to know her daughter..she beautiful..no one talk about Rim.. 😁😁

  • @kogoromori30
    @kogoromori30 2 года назад +7

    If that woman was blond and had fancy clothes, she would be a world-renowned artist LMAO. Unlucky.

  • @user-cv1jb9xv2p
    @user-cv1jb9xv2p 2 года назад +1

    🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @serahcharlotte108
    @serahcharlotte108 2 года назад

    Money is the issue that everyone has for a better and luxurious life.

  • @worldwide_cruising
    @worldwide_cruising 2 года назад +1

    *I pray that everyone who sees this becomes successful in life!*

  • @saimsahi6597
    @saimsahi6597 2 года назад

    in 2022 alt-least i realise with industrial revolution we never focus on materials to be used only count money . now we have huge problems with toxic materials specially plastic and chemicals.instead of fix these problems we want to go to mars.

  • @prabhushankar8520
    @prabhushankar8520 2 года назад

    Good.

  • @justinbrown4318
    @justinbrown4318 2 года назад

    The pointed enneagon.

  • @Superkhalil96
    @Superkhalil96 2 года назад

    Let me find out she been doing it this whole time

  • @diegovillalobos5364
    @diegovillalobos5364 2 года назад

    I HOPE!

  • @nar-aryanalakanta1464
    @nar-aryanalakanta1464 2 года назад +1

    Spirit Doll

  • @Dora23Jan
    @Dora23Jan 2 года назад

    Wow

  • @ME-yd2ly
    @ME-yd2ly 18 дней назад

    Translation is a bit off

  • @moderatorhollowbird
    @moderatorhollowbird 2 года назад +2

    Great Video Business Insider! Also Im first to comment :)

  • @lazyles875
    @lazyles875 2 года назад

    🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @vladodobleja748
    @vladodobleja748 2 года назад +1

    Men refuse to do pottery but they also refuse to do other kinds of work in order to earn money. A man that doesn't provide for his family is not a man,in my native România potters are mostly men!

  • @user-qjvqfjv
    @user-qjvqfjv 2 года назад

    Oh, the women use no chemicals? What are the pieces made of, then? Energy? Magic? Happy thoughts?

  • @mridulkanti1995
    @mridulkanti1995 2 года назад +3

    Isn’t it blasphemy to making idols in Arab? Isn’t it Haram in Islam?

    • @ANESS53
      @ANESS53 2 года назад

      Yes making idols is haram in islam.

    • @B.Mega.D
      @B.Mega.D 2 года назад

      Not when it makes money. We can bend the rules a bit.
      Why, you making Haram? I help you sell, we split money.

    • @shrekwithawillsmithface465
      @shrekwithawillsmithface465 2 года назад

      she is making an amazigh art not arab art

    • @ANESS53
      @ANESS53 2 года назад

      @@shrekwithawillsmithface465 what's the difference the idol is idol

    • @shrekwithawillsmithface465
      @shrekwithawillsmithface465 2 года назад

      @@ANESS53
      he said in arab + I myself am amazigh and i know for a fact that some imazighen from rural areas are muslim but still worship their pagan god for rain or something like that