Survivors Of Columbine And Colorado Theater Shootings Tell Their Stories | Megyn Kelly TODAY
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2018
- Megyn Kelly TODAY welcomes Tim McGrath and Jacob Garrett, who escaped with their lives from the 2012 Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting that killed 12 people, and Kim Blair Woodruff, who was a 17-year-old student at Columbine High School during the 1999 mass shooting there. They talk about McGrath’s new film, “Surviving Theater 9.”
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Survivors Of Columbine And Colorado Theater Shootings Tell Their Stories | Megyn Kelly TODAY
Kim basically saved her sister, just by being nice to Dylan. Let that sink in.
@ReservoirCat it sunk in
There were three dead bodies on the stairs inside the school. So, the death toll should be 13+3. 16 people died, not 13.
@@AntiMasonic93 what
*Makes film titled “Surviving Theater 9”*
“Well, I was in theater 8”.
Playboi Pace lol..but I’m sure the movie focuses on the people in theatre 9. But it would still be scary to be in any theatre in the building while its happening!
Playboi Pace who cares about the title it's not about the title the title is not important
Lolz
This is exactly what I thought the top comment would be 😂
My sister went to go see Batman and that happened in theater 9
It’s interesting how Jacob and the woman almost stayed in the mentality of the age of when it happened you can almost hear like he goes back to being twelve and her going back to seventeen when they recount what happened, very sad.
chad gonzalez right
Trauma can cause people to freeze mentally
@@Thatgirlcodes usually just when confronted with the traumatic memory, not for good
"the woman"
They/Them
"How did you manage to save yourself?" "Well I was in theatre 8"??????????
Ikr
Some of the bullets went through the wall, so theater 8 was impacted, too.
Three people in theatre 8 were hit by bullets that came through the wall
Georgia Visual Professionals sure.I take it you were there? Give me a break
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I know right i was like wtf he wasn’t actually apart of the REAL shooting
To see Columbine in the perspective of students is amazing. Just to hear her refer to Dylan Klebold just by his first name makes you actually think about what it would be like if that happened at your school. You truly never know what someone is capable of doing.
Ethan C I'm just glad that we got a piece of the story where it shows Dylan possibly sparing her due to her kind actions towards him. I never heard that before.
It's that great paradox of the tragedy ... we know Eric was a psychopath and wanted to do this, and probably would have done it alone, but Dylan's true motivations are still a bit of a mystery other than being truly suicidal and wanting to die.
vice2vursa Dylan did this in the library with another guy he knew. Eric didn’t shoot one his frenemies who he was friends with at that time. The guy can’t believe Eric didn’t shoot him.
Ethan C yea... you never do know...
Ethan C I don’t half to imagine it for I survived a school shooting in my teens.
That's why being kind to others makes a big difference. The thing that triggered this incident was HATRED.
yikes
@@EraineMMA that's why you have to be nice to everyone.
@@hiplikedyani1012 How about just being nice to people because that's the right thing to do? Don't selectively pick and choose who you're nice to because you're afraid they'll shoot you.
I'm a person who gets messed with by everyone at work. It honestly amazes me how practically everyone I know there can't help but start trash talking me when other friends are nearby. I could easily have so many of them fired, including a supervisor who calls me names which contain swear words. What's most bizarre of all is that they look at me and treat like a child when they're the incredibly immature ones.
Nothing will ever change because people never learn. 😒
Dylan and Eric could've actually been jocks. According to one of the Jocks, Eric who was anti-jock was actually co-captain of Columbine's soccer team the year before. And apparently Dylan was meant to be a really good baseball player.
Edit: By could've I mean that they would've been able to join the sports teams and be respected by them due to their athletic abilith
So happy to hear her story, that by being nice, she probably saved her twin sister life. That's where you see kindness does make a difference, sometimes.
Eric & Dylan were already sparing some ppl & killing others. Eric spared Brown(who he gave death threats to daily). And they also spared the girl next to Cassie Bernal & Bree Pasquel
Annie M. right
That's so true.
the way she talked about the columbine shooter put it into perspective so well wow
cellophaneboy Peekaboo
cellophaneboy EVERYBODY GET UP RIGHT NOW.
Alex Friedman no it’s everyone with white hats stand up
R.I.P X no.... Eric said everyone with white hats stand up and right after Dylam yells everyone get up right now.
Jacob needs to see a councillor. You can tell he's hurting
Callum Prince of darkness well you also heard how the columbine survivor only found peace at about the 10 year anniversary. That alone tells you it’s a long journey to reaching complete peace.
@@somerealnews6312 he was probably nervous
@@kafkaseyebrows When you look back at something horrible like that, it sometimes helps to view it in a way where you could laugh at how absurd it was instead of dwelling on much worse feelings. It's a coping mechanism. He proves this by smirking and telling everyone how badly he's been damaged. That was not a sly smirk, that was a smirk to cover up how he truly felt about it but his words were fairly clear. It was horrific and I couldn't imagine being in a room while people are slaughtered all around me wondering when it's my turn. Horrific.
That being said, I'm absolutely certain you did not need to suggest this. He's been through one of the worst mass shootings in history, he's got plenty of help.
He was prolly one of the bullies or knew of some of them
Well, the theatre 9 shooting was still fresh, way fresher than Columbine
I feel so bad for Jacob, just imagine having to experience something like that at the age of twelve. Jesus Christ you can tell just how traumatized he is from the shooting
You can see how much Jacob's hurting because of what happened
Man it's break me apart...
this guy is making thousands off a tragedy while you can hear the literal fear and emotion in the voices of Jacob and Kim as they recount those terrible memories. my prayers to them
Watching this video 24 years later after the events happened still give me chills. When I graduated from high-school in 1991, school shootings were unheard of.
Kim actually survived. The other man is just capitalizing off the tragedy it seems. He didnt survive theatre 9
omg I literally said the same exact thing
I thought the same thing. He made a documentary but he didn’t even survive theatre 9. Just weird.
It is weird that he would title it that. I could write a book with that title apparently
Survivor appropiation
"I was in theatre 8 and saw the movie again the next day!" What a crock!
He's a bum
did you see the Batman smiler, forgot his name, but he was shot, and all smiles recounting it, on showtime series active shooter. Ear to ear.
Its really evident how much the other 2 were affected compared to the guy in Theatre 8 who laughed during his interview the other 2 were traumatised...i wouldn't call him a survivor
everyone grieves differently. No way is proper. His way is probably humour. You telling him hes not a survivor is horrible. How can you even do that? He went through so much.
@@leolasabatini4604 he's not a survivor plain and simple
PlayerIdentity I don’t think you watched the same video. He was NOT in theater 9, he said it himself. He was in theater 8. He isn’t really the same kind of survivor as they are.
Leola Sabatini he most certainly did not go through anything close to what the other two did. He wasn’t even in the theater where the shooting actually took place. He was in the next one over and just got a few bullets in that theater that went through walls, but not a SINGLE person in the room he was in was shot.
@@felishadiaz7227 exactly
I can't believe how much pain and grief those two shooters caused, even 19 years later survivors are still dealing with the trauma and the severe injured 😡
Ste.B. not only that but they inspired so many copy cat shooters.
That’s what they wanted. They were successful at that..
What's even worse is 100 witnesses testified there were more than 2 shooters and half of the school stayed home that day
Yes lifelong trauma 😢
I bursted out laughing when he said well i was in theater 8
Columbine always gets me
My heart breaks for Jacob. I wish I could just hug him. I hope he gets help for himself to cope and deal with the trauma he’s gone through
"surviving theatre 9"
"yeah I wasn't even there"
What a beautifully powerful thing she said about kindness in humanity. She said it so eloquently and I’m so glad that her sister was spared.
'Surviving Theater 9"
Was in theater 8...
Someone sure hopped on the money/attention seeking train.
Until Dawna 8 and 9 close to eachother, if a gun shot goes off in one room you can hear it in the room next door
Karisma Hendricks yes but he wasn’t in that theatre with the shooter, his experience would be extremely different to those actually in theatre 9, that’s the point
Some of the bullets went through the wall, so theater 8 was impacted, too
frAnkie252473 It don’t matter what room you in, I HOPE YOU KNOW A BULLET CAN GO THROUGH A WALL,
Karisma Hendricks no I’m that ignorant I don’t think bullets can go through a wall....OBVIOUSLY THE MENTAL IMPACT OF HAVING SOMEONE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A GUN SHOOTING THE EFF OUT OF YOU IS DIFFERENT TO HAVING BULLETS COMING THROUGH A WALL...JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT?
How did he survive the shooting when he wasn’t even in the same theatre? WTF
He said the bullets went through the wall.
They were in the same buliding
@@Joker-mq7zr he still wasn't in theater 9...
Getting out of the theatre alone would make you a survivor. People who commit mass shootings are usually erratic… no one knows what they will do or where they will move to next. Which rooms they’ll go to… etc.. getting out of the theatre itself during all of that… is a feat on its own.
I’m a school shooting survivor. Just because I wasn’t in the same room when the shooter started, doesn’t mean that I’m not a survivor just as much as everyone else. I had to run, I had to hide, I had to watch victims come out of the school I was in covered in blood, I saw teachers covered in blood, I heard the gun fire, I heard the screams, I laid in a ditch for what felt like hours before crossing a major road to safety. I may not have been shot, but I was there. That makes me a survivor.
I wasn't there but let me make a movie.
-.-
Right like wtf, he was in the next theater room over, he didn’t even experience half of the pain people in theater 9 did. What a scum bag in my opinion..
Well yah but shots did come through the wall and killed one and injured 4. But yeah boi you better give back the money
Yeah I wouldn’t go as far as saying he isn’t a survivor at all. I think anyone who was in that building when it happened can label themselves as a survivor. But he’s profiting and getting clout off of a level of trauma he didn’t actually experience himself. That’s pretty messed up. At least choose a different name for the movie. “Surviving theater 9” implies he was in theater 9 when he wasn’t.
I also survived that shooting. In fact, I wasn't even there
The Grim Reaper i survived by not being there in the first place.
I was at CostCo buying a baseball bat in aisle 8.
My sister survived by being grounded. She was gonna go that night. We lived so close.
I know this was a joke.
I survived 9/11. In fact, I wasn't even there.
I just wanna give Jacob the biggest hug. I know it’s still probably hard still to this day but, it’s going to be okay, cry when you need to, go to counseling, I know you probably hear that all the time but, you are strong.
5:13 that’s sad. Dylan was so filled with anger for whatever reason that he spared not only her but other kid he knew. It’s weird how he was still able to go along with the killings after he for a moment remembered his humanity. I don’t think Eric thinked twice before shooting, that’s why I think Eric had a big influence on Dylan doing what he did.
There you go. Proof, if proof be needed, that a smile to someone can go a long way. Imagine if more people at the school had had the confidence to treat those boys with kindness. Love even your enemies, because that is probably what they lack in life.
Doesn’t meant they wouldn’t have still done it. In fact, only one of the boys was homicidal “because” of the jocks and other kids at school. The other one was actually depressed and suicidal.
@@felishadiaz7227 I def believe Eric was a psychopath but Dylan was only influenced. Rachel’s uncle came to my school one year when I was in middle school (I’m 19) and he told us about the journals they made and how Dylan’s was a lot less homicidal but a lot more suicidal and overtaken with anger, which led to homicidal. I believe Dylan was more sociopathic than psychopathic. But that’s my opinion and what they both did was evil so-
@@TheOfficialDirtyDan 1) How do you define a psychopath, and 2) How can you diagnose someone without being a qualified psychologist, or have known the kid personally?
She said she was nice to one of the shooter a little bit of being nice can go a long way and can save your life learn from what she is saying and be nice to everyone we all walk on the same ground and breathe the same air we all the same in god eyes just imagine if we gave a little bit kindness to everyone this wouldn't be happing as much.
Please don't leave any rude or ignorant comments. This is important.
no, its really not.
APCWORLDSUXAZ Yes, it is. Their experiences need to be heard.
APCWORLDSUXAZ Not even gonna waste my time.Ok, have a nice day.
you can hide your head in a hole , still wont change what the government is doing.
APCWORLDSUXAZ I know whats going on, I don’t think this is the only problem in the world or even the biggest problem in the world. I love learning about what’s going on where I live and other parts of the globe as well. I’d never ignore it. Goodbye.
Her eyes have so much sadness. I wish her peace and the best. Hope Jacob will be able to overcome this trauma.
The Columbine survivor says how she feels she was spared because maybe Dylan remembered how she was nice, which I believe 100% because the boys also spared John Savage. Megan Kelly totally ignores that and asks how the shootings can be stopped. Well Megan, obviously people need to change and be kinder to each other. I do believe it's as simple as that. Sadly everyone looks over that.
Dylan was too far gone, Eric groomed him to be a cold blooded killer. They wanted to go down in history,shake America to the core, & set the trend for copycat shooters(they did). If Dylan felt any regret he didn't show it by sparing pp Eric also told his frined Brown to leave(the same friend he gave many death threatsfor trivial matters). Dylan & Eric just got bored in btwn and started shooting lockers.They killed indiscriminately and after Eric broke his nose, their bombs failed(they put bombs in the caferteria to kills the students,news reporters, cops, & parents) they ran out of time. Also 100 witnesses testified there werew more than 2 shooters
Acharmye witnesses testified there were more than 2 shooters because they both eventually took their jackets off so people got mixed up about their identities and thought there were more people, cloaked and un cloaked. When in reality it was only the 2 of them
Alex But 100 witnesses testified there were more than 2 shooters and should've known them well enough to know them if they took their jackets off. And don't forget half of the school didn't show up that day either
i've been binge watching these school shooting stories because i wanna learn how to prevent them but im worried im on some sort of list now lol
No because this is exactly what I’m doing and feeling right now 😭
Not me at 4am doing exactly this
school is coming up soon for me so i’m just watching these school shooting videos to scare myself 😭
I've never heard her Columbine story, it is one of the most unbelievable stories I've heard from Columbine. Wow it gave me chills, being a kind hearted nice person saved her and her sister's lives. Always be nice and non judgmental, it will get you far in life. Or in her case save 2 lives.🙏💕
Wasnt even in the 9th theatre..
Adam Long Bullets ripped through the wall in theater 8. They were extremely close to the shooter and witnessed the same amount of trauma anybody else did. Degrading these survivors accounts is a outrageously disgusting thing. Please think about your comments and use common sense in your life.
Longview 25 your right mybad
Longview 25 Nah dude is just milking it. Trying to cash in
Adam Long who cares about the number of the theater what's important is this situation
Semaj Brisco That's like someone in the empire state building calling themselves a 9/11 survivor. Hes milking it, just look at his smug face
“Is there any survivor guilt?”
Idk about you guys, but that question felt a bit...unsettling.
Oh clearly didn’t like Kim sticking up for Dylan and going aganist the narrative.
@@bodhi8297 ?
With the twin girl who was in the library who was spared. Perhaps, and I am being honest, if it had been Eric looking under the table rather than Dylan perhaps she would not have been so lucky. Eric was pretty cold in his approach to everything. I am sure the fate also of his broken nose/bleeding bothered Eric or he may have taken more lives. The two from the theater and that making of the movie. Don't think I concur with that or even their direct involvement that evening of the shooting. They were in the next theater.
That theater was still affected.
Its because Eric broke his nose when he shot cassie from close range
Im glad she was able to find peace. Cant even begin to imagine what they, and other true survivors and the families of everyone who was in these terrible tragedies have gone through. :'(
That “Surviving Theatre 9” dude was wack ... he wasn’t even in the theatre!!! And then he made a movie.... well I really hope it doesn’t do well
Cleopatra Starseed maybe he was just inspired with their stories and he was in theatre 8 yk
Umm excuse me? He was in the next theater over where bullets were flying through the wall. Do why don't you just shut up.
Bailey that still doesn’t mean he was in the actual theatre where the shooting happen and yhu big mad cause you seem pressed with that attitude😳...
@@Tamara-lg4nd I dont think that gives him a right to do so it seems to most people in the comments he was just doing this for movie lucky it was just an indie film and didn't actually get a home release so yeah...
I've always found it so shocking that the cops didn't enter Columbine High School for over 3 hours.
There was a robbery at my job one morning.there was 4 gunman,they pointed guns at all of us and demanded a safe...eventually they left..no one was hurt..but I wasn’t the same after that for about 2-3 weeks..I would break into tears when customers come in and I didn’t notice..my heart would race,and I would be shaking ..I was traumatized..God knows the strength he gave these brave souls and everyone that has went thru something like this..because I only got a taste of what they must feel and it’s not easy or pretty..God bless you all!!! 😭🙏🏼
So sorry for what you had to go through
never forgotten
That was the first time I have ever heard or that there were school shootings,
my junior year was changed after hearing about the school shooting .My heart
was breaking for the family and friends who lost their lives at The Columbine shooting,
and the one who lost their life at the movie theater
I want to give Jacob the biggest hug- what a gentle soul :(
"I tend to think that we're more kind in our nature, than we are evil."
Amen
That guy with the blue shirt is precious and should be protected at all costs.
The Columbine victim looks 50, but sounds 15. Wtf?!
Brian May Is My Baby Boi tf she looks young for her age
Trauma can age regress someone. I didn’t know this till recently but it makes a lot of sense.
I survived theater 9 i was in kansas at the time. 👍
I survived the columbine shooting because I was a senior in high school at the same time, just a different school, in a different town, in a different state. That’s all
I survived Columbine, my parents had started dating and were in Kansas.
It’s crazy to think I was in that same theater yesterday .
"its supposed to be a safe place"
not when theres bullying and fights
@Hernando Malinche true! ive been there, been in that situation, people never bothered me again
@@kelseasettles6052 you clearly have issues
I'm sorry for this going on..u are brave
I very much appreciate the story and film. I appreciate what these poor kids have been through. A smirking anchor who presents a story like this in such a brief impersonal fashion sums it all up. It's an exciting story, not a true tragedy. All these mass murders just blur into one another unless you were actually there.American media has a massive attitude problem which is freaking Americans out and getting their priorities out of whack.These are enormous once in a lifetime stories. But they don't hold popular interest for more than a month.Terrifying.
Honestly, i'm glad I wasn't in Denver when this stuff was happening, i am now for school and work but i was never there in my teen years, i was in texas at the time, it's hard for me to think about i'm not sure why everyone keeps re-living it every 420. Our school almost had a shooting too, six months later, when i was a freshmen. I wish these things would slow down and stop happening though, it sucks.
There is something so wrong with Jacob And he needs some counciling and medication. He is so traumatised that he sounds like he's still 11 years old! Poor guy!!
This is such a great video, I loved it.
I remember this when I was in the 5th 6th grade..I remember my mother explaining to me about the shooting and the souls being loss.my heart goes out to columbine and also the theater shooting
Lucky. If Eric never got injured they'd have killed every single person in the library
AJ Styles broke his nose. His shotgun hit him in the face. It dazed and confused him as his nose was pouring with blood
Wow didn't know that,how did u hear that?? And is that why they killed themselves? ?
AJ Styles Read up on it. No they always planned to end their lives regardless
Rebel Vodka They were suicidal, it said in their journals
AJ Styles it’s been confirmed that he did have a broken nose
thank Megan, for being ever so considerate to not acknowledge your guests after they speak, yet move on to the next testimiony for the story this sounded so scripted
I cannot even begin to imagine being in her (or her sister’s) body that day at columbine. To have an AR pointing at me, my best friend murdered beside me, only to have the shooter move along and take out several other friends and students. Her answer of “I can only hope it was bc I was nice, otherwise it’s all just chaos” sums it up so very well.
hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣😆😆 I know right!
13 people passed, 13 years and 3 months later, the same kids who survived were reliving this nightmare, it’s real life final destination. 😢
This makes me glad I’m an introvert and prefer to stay at home.
So sad to see that no matter how much time passes, these people will never fully heal from the trauma. Living something as traumatic as a mass shooting will always way heavily on those who experience it. I can only pray for those who’ve been through this to find resignation and peace.. and for them to be strong enough to continue to live their lives as they did before. 😢
Sad .....
"Is there any survivors guilt?"
"Not anymore"
It's so sad these things happen
My brother has friends that have friends that died in the Aurora shooting.
My American friend was at coulumbine and was sick the day it happened thank god
Jacob 💔😢
11/26/17 Arlington Parks Mall I was in the shooting while me and my brother and my dad were in Game Stop
Kaleb & Gabriel Challenge dang that's right by my house
heck yeah he did he recognized you and just remembered everything....crazy world we live in...
we remember!!!!!
Everyone stay safe you can be anywhere at anytime and a tragedy like this can happen including me.
They should make a book called.I survived the columbine shooting of April 20 1999.
You should suggest that to Lauren Tarshis as she has written a book series called "I Survived..." and the most recent book is titled "I Survived the California Wildfires, 2018."
How you survived theater 9 if you was in theater 8?
The woman still talks like a teenager
She experienced one of the worst mass shootings in American history, I can't imagine how that must play on her mind, even subconsciously.
Talking like a teenager essentially means sounding unintelligent, and pausing frequently, often combined with a valley girl accent and poor vocabulary.
And your comment makes you sound like a child
It could be that it was so traumatizing that she’s stuck as a teenager always remembering that day
It's like she stopped developing the day of the shooting , that part of her died 😭 so she sounds the same
i feel so bad 😔
Every time I vote for years to come, I will be thinking of the Survivors of these horrendous events. I'm voting for candidates who accept no money from lobbying organizations or corporations.
THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD BE NICE TO PPL
The way she presented it, it feels like a couple survived being at both columbine and aurora...
I can't even imagine the kind of horrible luck that would take.
@@liamevans9815 One woman actually survived both Columbine shooting and Virginia Tech shooting.
Making my own documentary, surving theater 9
From California lol
It makes me sick to my stomach of why people like this would do these horrific things but we should all be aware that there's always help no matter what comes on especially nowadays.
does it really count that he was in theater 8? I was in the same city a shooting happened but it was 10 minutes away from me, does that count?
What is going on in Colorado...?!
Theater shooting 😮😢devastated mom in calif knew her son need mental health❤
The title of this video made me that that the person was at both columbine and aurora
Strong people! I watch all these video's about columbine, sandy hook, parkland and I can't believe something like that happens on a regular basis in america. You really have to change your gunlaws. How tf can some mentally ill people like dylan, Eric and Nicolas etc. get these guns legally? That's so f***ed up. I'm so sorry for the victims who got their lives cut short and the survivors and the families who have to deal with this for the rest of their lives...
Spirited Sana Eric and Dylan weren’t mentally ill
Mr Grim eric had mental issues but dylan was suicidal and depressed
mr reality I forgot about that but they did get a victory royale in the end
Mr Grim
pretty sure they would be mad if they were alive and found out they only killed 13 people
For one thing the "mentally ill people" that get them come off as ordinary everyday people the type of people you'd never even think of as doing something so horrible. How do you think most serial killers get away with it for years? Because they're better at acted liked normal human beings then the majority of society. U never truly know someone
I was watching Columbine videos and a documentary yesterday. Then I went to Wiki to see how the students died. It was so very very sad. It's hard to believe it was almost 20 years ago. I am 45 so I remember when this happened.
KG2018 what were you doing at the time
I'm 50 now and watched columbine unfold on the news in the uk. .it was a real shocker
Does anybody else think Kim is really beautiful? Her eyes look so unique in a emotionally warm way when she's not thinking about those traumatic memories. She seems like such a sweet person.
Be nice to the bullied kids, they might save your life one day
Dang 2012
Jacob is so cute.
That guy wasnt in the theatre
You made this America!
Kelly faking empathy... get real...
Kreator shut up trumpster
Kreator, can’t stand her either. Never could.
Kreator David Hogg is Adam lanza 100% proof and the truth came out!
Kreator yea why does she have to have empathy
She is a robot, of course she's faking it.
my 8th grade science thecher went to litteon high school at the same time the shooting happened
Crazy world where shooting victims go on talk shows and we get entertainment out of it
Living in Colorado, I'm a post Columbine but very alive during Aurora teen. It's so hard knowing that that's what we're really mostly known for. Shootings.
Percabeth Everdeen-Potter not what you're mostly known for in the slightest. You're mostly known for weed and skiing
@jay shnid I was thinking the exact same thing I clicked on it to comment but seen yours
THE CRAZIEST PART IS I WAS IN THEATER NO.8!
There is a blonde in the 1999 Columbine high school yearbook that looks very like Megyn. Here name is listed as 'Megan Kelly'.