How To Plant Clover For Deer

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  • Опубликовано: 19 янв 2025

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  • @vincentdilorenzo3587
    @vincentdilorenzo3587 Год назад +1

    This man is the best! You can tell how much work he put in

  • @oltrapper7984
    @oltrapper7984 Год назад +3

    Thank you folks so much for increasing my levels of happiness through the wonderful content you guys create. God bless, I'm gonna be purchasing some seed this year. Big believer in your guys techniques

  • @shannoncrouch5723
    @shannoncrouch5723 Год назад +2

    Interesting, I have Frost Seeded for the past 5 years. I’ve had great success with it until the drought last year. 109 days of heat, with lest than a half inch on day 64 & 69. I will definitely be hitting the Spring seeding. Appreciate the knowledge from WHS.

  • @fredk7250
    @fredk7250 Год назад +3

    Another great informative video, we are planting clover/chicory this year, herd building......thanks for the video

  • @janitorialguy4436
    @janitorialguy4436 Год назад +1

    I’ve considered clover many times however I enjoy trying new plots each fall. Thanks Jeff great video

  • @mikemellon80
    @mikemellon80 Год назад +1

    I don't hear you talk about clover much. so I've kind of disregarded it for my property. but this discussion on blending it has me thinking

  • @spencerlofkvist4001
    @spencerlofkvist4001 Год назад +3

    Thank You Jeff!
    Maybe an idea for a future video, I have a few Apple trees on my property and I did some research on keeping them pruned and kept for maximum productivity. Might be a topic to discuss with your following. Take care Sir and Thank you Again.

    • @timhatfield6367
      @timhatfield6367 Год назад

      New growth makes more apples,plus you can prune the trees so they can reach the browse.
      Just saying for a friend...lol

  • @garretts1604
    @garretts1604 Год назад +5

    Jeff, how are you using/locating/portioning clover to limit the doe factory concern?

  • @robertboston9778
    @robertboston9778 Год назад +1

    Jeff - one the first things you've said that I found not correct, at least in Mid-Ohio. I've experienced outstanding success broadcasting rye (150#/acre) into an established legume plot around labor day with moisture in the forecast - four years going now. Suggest you try it on a part of your legume plot to see. When the legumes start to frost out the rye is there to continue the line of movement to those greens you foot-stomp. Best Regards.

  • @michaelmeyer1310
    @michaelmeyer1310 6 дней назад

    I established a good clover field last year with some brassicas in the middle. I’m in MO and have snow on the ground now that will be melting later this week. Would it be good to seed clover over the snow allowing it to sink into the soil?

  • @VincentDonovan-qn5wi
    @VincentDonovan-qn5wi Год назад

    Enjoy absorbing the experience for my small project with a emphasis on wildlife in general.
    Going fruit /nut tree heavy and thought your viewers might enjoy tree pruning for productivity and accessibility

  • @seregill13
    @seregill13 Год назад +1

    One of my plots has been just clover for 4 years now, I sprayed weeds the first two years. The two years after that I couldn't fit spraying weeds in my budget but the clover pretty well choked out the weeds by itself.

  • @kurtisleffelman3029
    @kurtisleffelman3029 Год назад +1

    Can you do a video on killing spring time rye. I’ve heard spray, mow, or crimp but I’m looking more for a timeline and how exactly. Thanks Jeff, appreciate all the information!

  • @brandonyoung7760
    @brandonyoung7760 Год назад +2

    I have 1 question Jeff. If you can't broadcast brassicas in a established clover plot then what's your options for the next year? I'm guessing you'll have to leave it as a stand alone clover plot or kill out the established plot and reseed with new clover and brassicas the next fall? Any help would be appreciated. Getting ready to buy seed. Thanks!

    • @matherlogger
      @matherlogger Год назад +1

      I was about to ask the very same question. Looking forward to a reply.

  • @MegaBraunie
    @MegaBraunie Год назад

    do I need to fertilize my clover plots? We are Mid August, if so when? Thanks in advance.

  • @beaulyons5554
    @beaulyons5554 Год назад +1

    So if I understand, you could use or plant into rye, oats, wheat as a spring cover crop, then mow down the cover crop? I have spring wheat and rye coming in and was hoping I could seed clover into it then kill out the rye and wheat. Doing a clover alfalfa chicory combo I’m putting together. Thank you for all your advise.

  • @amb221989
    @amb221989 Год назад +2

    I was given a bag of Crimson clover, not really sure what to do with it. Is that something I could mix in with Brassica or would it be better to do something else with it?

    • @bowman8316
      @bowman8316 Год назад +1

      I plant crimson in early to mid Aug

  • @mikkisprenkle2762
    @mikkisprenkle2762 Год назад +1

    Jeff, planting my clover this weekend in central Pa. Will plot start benefit the in a newly cleared mountain area or should I do a soil test and spread lime if necessary

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад +1

      Hi Nikki, you always want to complete a soil test, but Plot Start will help immediately!

    • @mikkisprenkle2762
      @mikkisprenkle2762 Год назад

      @@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you!! Absolutely plan to before planting to see where it is at. Appreciate all the videos and Kevan is awesome!

  • @TheSmithtj80
    @TheSmithtj80 Год назад +2

    How long will you let your clover plot go before terminating it? Do you do use a crop rotation with clover plots?

  • @Colt-j9m
    @Colt-j9m Год назад

    I’m in SE Virginia. Could I seed clover in the spring around April, and use rye grain as a nurse crop to control weeds? Was debating on doing that. Then coming in around mid May and actually planting soybeans right into the standing clover. Also should/would I have to bush hog the rye before planting the beans? Thank you.

  • @belindahorn3611
    @belindahorn3611 Год назад +2

    I have an existing clover plot, having problems with grass. Can I mix some glyposate with clethodine, to help control it?

  • @jmar5787
    @jmar5787 Год назад +2

    Can you plant Summer Soil Explosion Blend now over the winter rye that's about gone - eaten to the ground!! I'm in northern lower Michigan..

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад +2

      Hi J you can...but I would wait until closer to your last frost date, broadcast and then kill the rye with Glyphosate

    • @jmar5787
      @jmar5787 Год назад

      @@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 no Ag here its sandy soil mostly swamp with high ridges running north / south...

  • @colejuen7521
    @colejuen7521 Год назад +1

    Pierce County WI, For logging roads next to potential deer bedding, what should we plant, brush, switchgrass, trees?

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад

      That's a really tough one....so many choices and so many variables it would be impossible to offer any suggestions that reflect any form of accuracy 😊

  • @michaeljohnson5175
    @michaeljohnson5175 Год назад +1

    Should I use plot starter fertilizer (11-11-11) when I plant the clover?

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад +1

      Hi Michael! I would go purely by a soil test recommendation. For example clover doesn't need that first # (nitrogen) in the mix.

  • @prank213
    @prank213 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just used 50 lb bag of Clover on 1/4 acre. Do you think I overseeded? What should I expect?

  • @Droptinecreations
    @Droptinecreations Год назад

    So if you already have clover, you can’t add any cool season annual to it? Let’s say the clover is sparse, not covering completely, should I just over seed more clover?

  • @anthonymalueg3520
    @anthonymalueg3520 Год назад +1

    Can frost seeding clover into an existing Glover stand be a good practice to thicken it up every year

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад +1

      It can during the first Spring of a Fall seeded clover field.... especially when not enough seed was used during the Fall. At appropriate seeding rates the frost seeding is not necessary...

  • @ala5831
    @ala5831 Год назад

    Just seeded a bare brassica field yesterday with clover. It’s looking like we will be getting heavy rain tomorrow. Debating whether to pack it in with the tires.

  • @Funski1000
    @Funski1000 Год назад

    What is the best shade tolerant clover, and what is the most attractive clover to whitetails ?

  • @chadoverkamp9407
    @chadoverkamp9407 Год назад

    I have a brassica plot from last year that I over seeded with rye in the fall
    Can I plant clover into this spring then mow rye out in a few months

  • @figandcloverranch5871
    @figandcloverranch5871 Год назад

    So in fall if you wanna change from clover you just kill with 24d/gly a few weeks before plant ? Or just leave the plot as clover ?

  • @bryanwhite4388
    @bryanwhite4388 Год назад

    Have 40 acres & most of property is swampy but what could I plant in swampy ares for a food plot?

  • @SerDiesel90
    @SerDiesel90 Год назад +2

    From what you said, I assume you're just surface broadcasting and not working seed into the ground at all?

  • @JackFrostTheDeerHunter
    @JackFrostTheDeerHunter Год назад +2

    Preferred clover for Northern Zones is?

    • @austinbuchholz9151
      @austinbuchholz9151 Год назад +2

      I just bought white clover from my local elevator. That's what they recommend. I'm in northwest MN

  • @scottpavek236
    @scottpavek236 Год назад +1

    Curious about Birdsfoot trefoil. It is everywhere in our CRP acreage. The county NRCS person dislikes it and says it’s an invasive species. Heck the stuff is everywhere in our yard…ditches. If it’s everywhere…you aren’t really adding any value by putting it in a plot mix…are you? I’d love to hear your take.

    • @robertboston9778
      @robertboston9778 Год назад

      BFT is a great legume to add to your legume blend. Much more tolerant of poor soil than alfalfa and not nearly as twitchy, browse/insects etc as alfalfa.

  • @kremercooutdoorliving2397
    @kremercooutdoorliving2397 Год назад

    If I'm trying to establish a clover/alfalfa plot will clethodim kill the alfalfa? I have rye grass and other invasive grasses that I want to spray but have a really nice established clover plot I don't want to kill

  • @gregallman3715
    @gregallman3715 Год назад +1

    With establishing a clover plot in the fall, the only time you can add rye is in that establishment year correct? Meaning once clover is established nothing else can grow because it smothers any seeds from the sun, correct. Just not wanting to waste any money.

    • @robertboston9778
      @robertboston9778 Год назад +2

      In mid- Ohio we broadcast 150#/acre into established legume blend plots and it does marvelous. We broadcast and then cut he legumes with a brushhog to about 6".
      Greg - add a comment to a video on my channel - Jeff, rightly so, doesn't allow links in his channel comments. Wanted to show you evidence of the rye growing thru the legumes very well.

    • @dmouse522
      @dmouse522 Год назад +1

      That's what Jeff says. I, however, do it every year and it grows enough to be a positive thing. Maybe it's only because my clover is thinnish on my sandy soils. Rye is fairly cheap and if you have weak areas you at least have something there.

    • @dmouse522
      @dmouse522 Год назад

      And to be fair I'm talking about a small field..hardly a budget buster.

  • @TheAyersoftChannel
    @TheAyersoftChannel Год назад

    Very informative video. Putting in my first plot in a few weeks here in CT. To clarify, brassica should be planted with the clover in the initial seeding and then oat, rye, or wheat in 4-5 weeks when risk of frost is gone? Thanks for all of the information and explanation! Quite helpful for a first time plot

  • @johnduellman5760
    @johnduellman5760 Год назад

    I plan on planting ladino this spring in some lowland once they dry out and I can spray grass out. Would you plant oats along with this? How many pounds per acre of clover and oats would you put down?

  • @GoGmacKGo
    @GoGmacKGo Год назад

    Purchasing a property. Already an established clover plot. Do we just maintain that or do we need to add more seed every year?

  • @matulala2000
    @matulala2000 Год назад

    Near the end of the video you said you can’t spread seed into an established clover field, so what do you do if you want to plant into it?

  • @jordankarnes923
    @jordankarnes923 Год назад +1

    I may of missed it, but how many lbs. of oat per acre would I use in the fall with clover.

  • @05shep9
    @05shep9 Год назад +1

    What percentage glyphosate are you using?

  • @isaacswift-lv3yr
    @isaacswift-lv3yr Год назад

    Thanks Jeff!

  • @finallyfriday.
    @finallyfriday. Год назад +1

    What are the 4 states you've yet to work in? Just curious.

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад

      I've only worked in 26....several? TX, FL, LA, SC are a few I haven't worked in ..

    • @finallyfriday.
      @finallyfriday. Год назад

      @@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Oh, I thought you said 46. I was thinking Hawaii and Alaska... what could be the other two? (The man gets around, for sure!)

  • @mattwallace1334
    @mattwallace1334 Год назад

    How do you feel about mixing winter rye and clover this spring? I’m near Pembine wisconsin that has a few good inches of top soil then sand underneath. Do you think it will be established enough to make it through the august heat or should I just wait for the fall? Thank you!

  • @twoTsquared
    @twoTsquared Год назад +6

    Can you broadcast clover blend into buckwheat if you’re just starting a plot and working on building the soil?

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад +6

      You certainly can at the end of the buckwheat plot when you terminate the buckwheat and kill it. Established a great stand of clover with brassica like that in 2007 😊

    • @johannososkalo669
      @johannososkalo669 Год назад

      If I broadcast my clover into the buckwheat, can I use just clover, and if so, at what rate? Or, should I mix it with brassica?

    • @twoTsquared
      @twoTsquared Год назад

      @@johannososkalo669 you can broadcast them beside each other but not together because they compete against each other. Rate should be what your seed provider recommends.

    • @austinedwards9889
      @austinedwards9889 Год назад

      Can buckwheat be mowed instead of crimped?

  • @kevintrick5942
    @kevintrick5942 Год назад

    I plan to plant clover on cleared trails in a woods (already did soil test) in Ohio. I'd like to have fresh/prime clover during October through January. I've heard that if I plant it now, it will all be eaten and gone by hunting season. Is it best to wait til Aug/Sept to plant? Is it ok to plant it now to establish travel patterns on the trails and replant it in Aug/Sept if it gets eaten down by then? Really excited to hear back!

    • @britttrumbower60
      @britttrumbower60 Год назад +1

      Clover/chicory represents 2/3 of our food plots. We rotate 1/3 with spring/summer kill & ph adj with lime and/or calcium plus gly. June buckwheat. Aug Brassica. Late September winter wheat/rye. Follow with Frost seed clover/chicory the following March. The brassica bulbs break up the soil. The grains become a cover crop for frost-seeded clover which is easily eliminated late May early June. Side note: we switched to 4.5 oz /acre imox to manage clover. Very happy and it even knocked out out PA Smartweed (timing is everything with that nasty stuff).. keep an eye out in your clover beginning mid May. Hit it early. We will often spot spray imox 2nd time but it does the job. Great stuff Jeff! 8 new straps of switch added this year to soften edges and break up some larger fields.

  • @Sandwichking-hikes
    @Sandwichking-hikes Год назад +1

    I had planted some Durana clover end of last summer and it’s very hardy. Gets eaten down and pops right back.

  • @MrRABland
    @MrRABland Год назад

    Would you plant perennial clover/chicory blend in the spring on trails connecting five small (1/4-1 acre) food plots in a 120-acre mature hardwood forest with little food and few deer with the intent of performing TSI and crop tree release in the next few years? The idea is to build the herd and pull deer from surrounding public land that was logged 20 years ago and is holding most of the deer.

    • @naomicreech9870
      @naomicreech9870 Год назад +3

      Good morning! I can’t remember if it was a newer video or an older video I was watching, sounds like you don’t want food where Don’t have a stand.. hence no food on the trail. Cutting trees back along their line of movement, will provide fresh woody brows and tips for them to eat.. 😊

  • @justinstallman2618
    @justinstallman2618 Год назад

    Do you suggest planting oats with a clover/chicory blend or is the chicory enough of a nurse crop?

  • @luvbgrass
    @luvbgrass Год назад +1

    I disagree with you on one thing. I have planted Clover for probably 10 years with good results, and the deer love it. I had heard that glyphosate, in weak form wouldn't hurt the clover. So I tried a little experiment on mine. We mixed 1oz per gallon and sprayed 1/3 of my clover patch. It had a decent amount of grass growing in it. I had high hopes for it. Glad I didn't spray the whole plot with it because it killed the 1/3 I sprayed dead as a hammer. I'm trying now to get that established back. If I'm missing some please let me know. Thanks, EE

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад

      Never ever spray "ounces per gallon"...that's for farmers and highly calibrated spray RS...not food plotters.
      But, been spraying 1 ounce pet acre of Gly on clover for over 20 years now, also dozens of clients. It works...as long as not before a Summer drought.

    • @luvbgrass
      @luvbgrass Год назад

      @@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks for the reply Jeff. So, I guess I had it mixed a little too stout maybe. As the old farmers would say. 😂

    • @alanwhite4839
      @alanwhite4839 Год назад

      Once ounce per acre?

    • @luvbgrass
      @luvbgrass Год назад

      @@alanwhite4839 That may work ok. I'm just a little gun shy of trying it again right now. I will say I did probably have it mixed to strong. I wasn't spraying any where close to an acre. It was maybe a quarter acre and I didnt spray all of that. My bad, as they say.

    • @alanwhite4839
      @alanwhite4839 Год назад

      @@luvbgrass I’m just saying 1 ounce per acre is very weak and I doubt it will kill anything. I think that may be a misprint?

  • @grantnortman
    @grantnortman Год назад +1

    Jeff, I thought you don’t want summer food on your property? Isn’t clover a summer food source?

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад +1

      In very small quantities it's ok...especially when surrounded by 100s of acres of alfalfa 😊 we will have 17 acres this year...around an acre of clover. Works great under these conditions as it doesn't establish a Summer doe herd. In a northern big woods setting it would be bad...or if a high % of our overall plots.
      Bottom line tho if we see piles of does hitting the clover we will kill it...but based on experience we won't have too.

  • @user-xe8gm5xi3r
    @user-xe8gm5xi3r Год назад

    Why plant clover or a perennial blend in the first place vs other plants?

  • @beaulyons5554
    @beaulyons5554 Год назад +2

    What setting do you set your spreader on for clover? I really like how you tell us those things. I know we all appreciate it.

    • @joeellis2692
      @joeellis2692 Год назад +2

      The smallest setting first. Better to make multiple passes rather than get halfway and run out of seed.

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад +1

      Thanks Beau! Roughly 1 to 1.25...best to start on the small size tho

    • @beaulyons5554
      @beaulyons5554 Год назад

      @@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you as always for your help.

  • @bowman8316
    @bowman8316 Год назад

    Clover ! Yayyy ☘☘☘

  • @salt-team-six5883
    @salt-team-six5883 Год назад +2

    What clover do you like best?

  • @kevinb6583
    @kevinb6583 Год назад +1

    Weed control - are you putting 24D and gly in the sprayer at the same time or separately?

  • @davidtrow5211
    @davidtrow5211 Год назад +1

    Clover in the woods? Yes or no?

  • @joelanderson2762
    @joelanderson2762 Год назад

    do you use 24db ?

    • @darrenturcotte7799
      @darrenturcotte7799 Год назад

      I just bought some cost me 700$ for 20 acres worth. I’m planning on hitting it after the third trifoliate so eliminate any last weeds or Aspen coming up in my plot.

  • @wagonwheel9426
    @wagonwheel9426 9 месяцев назад +1

    Have you seen deer refusing to eat brassica?

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  9 месяцев назад

      Yes, about 10-15% of the time. Mostly big ag areas with low to moderate deer numbers. If Jake and canola makes up the brassica mix that magnifies the problem. Also if there is no other food source alongside to establish a pattern of use early in the season.

  • @rhinogames9856
    @rhinogames9856 Год назад +1

    Clover and birds foot?

  • @stevespeltz9785
    @stevespeltz9785 Год назад

    I just don't like the idea of using chemicals. Is there any way I can get a good food plot of clover without it?

  • @Funski1000
    @Funski1000 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yessir

  • @naomicreech9870
    @naomicreech9870 Год назад +3

    Fourth 😊

  • @Andrew-sanders
    @Andrew-sanders Год назад

    This video is a month old. Next week I will be bailing red clover tomorrow will be mid 90. Your time frame to spray and plant don't work. Deer not even touching clover anymore. done moved to better types of browse mostly blackberry and green Brier. Or on my plots of peas and soy. Oats heading wheat heading out time to bail them. June 1st for clover they wouldn't even look at as they walked by. How about nov 1st to plant clover would be closer to right time

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад

      Our snow just left the woods 3 weeks ago. ..and this video was out out 6 weeks ago. You are a little late to the party, son.
      The idea isn't to plant clover for the summer right now...it is for the hunting season. If you plant now you use oats as a cover plot and mow in July sometime. Then enjoy clover for the Fall. Nov would be a silly time to plant clover. On snow. Instead, the best would be planting clover in August with brassica...or with cereal grains a month later.
      Stay on the channel, watch a few vids, learn and then come back to the comment section when you are more accurately informed and can offer quality comments or questions to help folks. Well I guess you just did...but not how you think 😉

    • @Andrew-sanders
      @Andrew-sanders Год назад

      @@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 more informed okay I planted oats to harvest 2 months ago read comment they are heading out and about ready to bale your just past frost date maybe I have had tomatoes in ground a month your vidios are for northern climate only. Tomorrow will be mid 90s not your 60s

  • @gaigehinspeter2159
    @gaigehinspeter2159 Год назад +3

    First 😂

  • @bear9923
    @bear9923 8 месяцев назад +1

    TALKS TOO FAST

  • @lindak5036
    @lindak5036 Год назад

    Round up Never!

    • @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751
      @whitetailhabitatsolutions9751  Год назад

      It's the weakest herbicide you can use ..I'm with you! Atrazine, Clethodim, Quincloric, Resicore, 2-4D...MUCH stronger and stays in the soil to keep killing for up to 11 months. Roundup dies when it hits the soil. So I agree 😉 I think everyone should use stronger chemicals than Round up, which is all of them...

  • @svenadicci1981
    @svenadicci1981 Год назад

    Wow, I’m really surprised. You lost me with Round Up. You couldn’t pay me to put that stuff anywhere on my land. I don’t care how hard it is to deal with weeds. With all we know about these chemicals, I’ll be finding a better way.