Jason Cundy DEFENDS Gareth Southgate's Decision-Making After Criticism For LACK Of Substitutes 😤
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Jason Cundy and Jamie O'Hara discuss England v Slovakia at EURO 2024.
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How can you defend his choices
4 consecutive quarter finals achieved in major tournaments..
Bloddy hell mate, anyone could do that with the routes weve had@@dannyesse3043
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Because his choices played a huge part in us winning the game 🤷
@@philbarton2832 *lack of choices*… a real gaffer with any backbone would have done several subs at half time.
Do you not realise with this squad we should be battering Slovenia and Slovakia?!? A last minute fluke goal and you think Southgate’s ok now. Wow just wow… do you actually watch football week in week out or just stick England on every 2 years ?
We got lucky and Southgate gets praise for his total lack of decision making, pathetic
And what in the he'll was that formation? Where is the midfield??
@@danzolion8758bellingham and mainoo wandering about, rice hiding from the ball
@BoxingB0oda midfielders used to control the game, now it's the centre back 🤯
It was lacking in Kalvin Phillips.
@@danzolion8758 teams pack midfield so they need to be technically better, or you need wingers to punish them out wide… look at spains wingers and midfield compared to ours lol
This is the problem. We are awful and clueless with no direction but we get lucky and then the praise comes in. It’s ridiculous
Completely lucky against pass poor Slovakia side ranked 45 or so. England should've won 3-0 easy. They piss around passing, wasting time in defence instead of trying to score goals. That was total luck.
yet if Bellingham did not score all the shows on here tomorrow would have been talking about why he did not make changes earlier
Exactly
I’m actually embarrassed to celebrate that win… Bellingham’s interview after the game made me want to cut up my passport
3hrs ago cundy rages. This video cundy defends Southgate. TalkFlipFlop
Sorry indefensible - knowing we got to score then putting on Toney for the last 2 minutes a a joke when he should have come on 20 minutes earlier.
100%
A moment of pure magic prevented this from being one of the most disastrous results in England’s history. Let’s not pretend as though anything that happened was by Southgate’s design. He’s an incredibly average and lucky coach.
I agree with you completely. But the blame should be spread to the players as well.
for 94 minute this game was on par with the 2016 Iceland defeat
100% mate. We have very talented lads who are playing under a poor manager with a poor gameplan.
He’s below average. Even an average coach wouldn’t continue to make the same mistakes ole he does.
Was Southgate at fault for foden inexplicably staying offside for his tap in?
Was it southgates fault kane missed an easy free header from 5 yards?
Was it southgates fault the ref failed to send off a Slovakian player for a blatant second yellow card?
He's been the most successful English manager in over 50 years.
Nobody can be that lucky for that long amount of time, at some point you just have to give the guy credit
Terrible tactics and decision making…. Saved by individual brilliance
I thought the goal was okay, a good finish. It was at a nice height. Individual brilliance? No, his performance tonight was awful. A goal most highly paid strikers would score.
@@danzolion8758 Brother, the lad just turned 21, isn't a striker and just scored an overhead kick in the dying seconds. To do that instinctively at that age as a midfielder shows the guy is special and there's no way you can downplay it.
Give Gareth a break, he’s not had time to learn from prior mistakes in tournaments and friendlies, you try finding an adequate Kevin Phillips replacement on top of it all 🙃
SOUTHGATE had no idea what was going to happen !
It wasn't even a Hail Mary decision. It was inexplicable!!! 2 minutes to go ?? WTF!!!
Oh come on, that’s harsh.
It was 1 minute
Cundy out, Southgate out
Southgate has no balls. He needs man up and drop Foden… or Bellingham but I would drop Foden.
Kane playing a ball into the box to Foden says it all. Southgate is a donkey brained sharp dresser.
Eze was alright?? Him and Toney changed the game
We’ve used up all our luck for the tournament on Slovakia! Need good performances now!
I'm sorry, but you have lost your mind obsessive with your own ideas and so are unable to see the blatantly obvious. Why did he not change it immediately at half time? It's pretty obvious the reason why and that is because for the last 5 or 10 minutes of the first half, England were like a boxer that had there opponent on the ropes and Slovakia were clinging on to not hit the floor. Why would the boxer change what they are doing at that point when it is working. Of course 10 to 15 minutes into the second half the opponent had managed to get off the ropes so the change was made. There is nothing complicated to understand about that. Secondly, you have been obsessed with the idea that different players are played and they have been. Alexander-Arnold is off, as you demanded, Mainoo is playing as you demanded and Palmer has had more opportunity than any other sub, yet the results have not been that much better. In fact, the players you have ignored and Southgate chose without your mention have had more impact than the ones you go on about. Palmer has yet to give an assist or score and contributed to messing up what was going to be the goal of the tournament against Slovenia when Anthony Gordon produced the pass of the tournament to Mainoo, which was followed by an act of delightful skill and pass by Mainoo to Kane. Kane too followed this by a delight pass to Palmer who was out of position, asleep and too late to the ball which he followed by a pathetic shot that might as well have been a pass to the goalie and should have won us that game. If that was Saka playing there instead of Palmer, he would have been in the right position for the pass from Kane and would have been free to run clean on goal or had a free shot and scored. So once again your ideas have proved wrong there, but that the fact is, while the players you demand play have succeeded in nothing, most especially Palmer, to the point that I play a game where when Palmer has the ball I count 10 seconds knowing the ball will be in the hands of the opposition by the end of those ten seconds, other players who have had less time on the pitch have created assists or special unforgettable attacking contributions. Mainoo was never a priority in your discussions of who should play yet he has had a considerable positive impact in his contribution and looks the most consistently high performer in the final third for England with his play not only calm and of quality way beyond his years in tight spaces, but equal in level of control of the ball, passing, temperament, intelligence and quality of delivery you would find in a Man City team or any great Spanish or Italian team and he has achieved this level of ability and maturity at just 19 years of age. For England, he is the big and shocking surprise of this tournament at just how good he is and the world is watching it. I predict his price is going to surge at the end of this tournament with top teams after his signature around the world even if England go no further. Manchester United better watch out. Great stuff. Peace and love
Tonight really felt like Iceland all over again till a bit of brilliance. Papering over the cracks
“Saka hasn’t done enough on the right” by your own admission he’s working with two absolute donkeys in Kane and walker, coupled with having about 7 different RCM’s over 4 games, what is he meant to do. Still offers himself for passes, tries to dribble, cuts inside, takes on a 1v1. All palmer has done is get a runout against a tiring Slovenia and lob in a dozen hopeful balls against Slovakia.
When the squad was announced I suspected issues. The team lacks balance! You are coached from a very young age how to set up in shape, how to move in shape, positional play, starting positions, distances and angles and from the first game in this tournament the team shape, movement as a unit, discipline to regain shape and get compact when out of possession and position has been shocking. Kane, Foden, Trippier and Bellingham have all been trying to operate in the same half space area on the left, check out the pass maps and heat maps of each of them and they are all identicle
Cundys bike joke was very underrated
Southgate is delusional .... us WHU fans suffered the same things with David Moyes and Southgate has turned into him as he constantly plays the same 11, players being played out of position, playing the most miserable & negative style of football against inferior teams, dividing & upsetting the squad and the fan base, tactically inept, leaving substituting players WAY TOO LATE whilst the pair of them outstayed their welcome ... Southgate OUT
Imagine your father owns Tesla and hands you the company. You’ve never worked a day in your life and are absolutely clueless and make a tonne of mistakes. Despite your incompetence, the company still performs but it would perform better under someone more competent ….. should you deserve praise?? That’s SouthGate!!!
Jason Cundy will sleep with his own mother , if Southgate told him too. Southgate was very lucky tonight , this starting 11 hasn’t clicked in now 4 games .
Football is all about balance and there is none in this side. They should be 3 changes from this side that started and that is Foden benched for Gordon . Tripper off for Gomez or Konsa and Kyle Walker who’s been shocking for Trent . That way with the ball we go into a back 3 with Trent and Rice holding and Gordon ,Jude ,Mainoo and Saka as the 4 with Kane as striker
We can't be playing Saka at left back are you joking?
This is insane
Spain >>>>>>>>>>>> 😂😂😂😂🇪🇦🔥
Jude proved that we can’t drop him tonight for me Foden needs to be sacrificed for Gordon and Saka should be off for palmer
Why on earth do we continue to play backwards and sideways?! When we turn over the ball, why dont we break quickly like everyone else does?! We allow everyone to set back up before we start going forward.
The difference between gomez and trippier is Gomez can actually use his left foot. Trippier is one of the most one footed players ive ever seen
Yes.
Plus Gomez is rapid and a better defender in the 1v1. Imagine Trippier against Yamal or Neco Williams
@@bh629 i dont think thats a scenario we will see 😒
If we perform like that and get to the final and win, will people still be complaining? 🦁🦁🦁
4 games later he hasn’t changed the system & lack of subs is baffling. I’ve not witnessed anything as bad as it, Eze coming on was it for me
Toney is a nuisance for the otherside.
Cole Palmer is a serious player.
Palmer did nothing. Toney and Eze changed the game.
Eze coming on opened up space, and Palmer gave us forward creativity/positivity. How Southgate hasn't thought this prior is mind boggling, to me.
His corner for the Kane goal was better than any delivery Foden or Saka have done.
Iceland all over again until our first shot on goal. Southgate is awful
1-1 (d) Ukraine
1-3 W Scotland
1-0 W Australia
3-1 W Italy
2-0 W Malta
1-1 (d) North Macedonia
0-1 L Brazil
2-2 (d) Belgium
3-0 W Bosnia & Herz.
0-1 L Iceland
0-1 W Serbia
1-1 (d) Denmark
0-0 (d) Slovenia
2-1 W Slovakia
14 Games
20 for goals
8 against
ranked 20+ in world maches 11
ranked 19- in world matches 3
7 W
5 D
2 L
It's clear England can't beat a team that is ranked lower than 20 in the world bar Italy who are falling down right now. They play Switz who are ranked 19 tomorrow. Bye bye England.
It's just amazing how far how quickly England has fallen in this euros, amazing indeed....
From "this is probably one of our best teams and we're winning it" to anger, teary eyes and stressed out ...
Southgate with another stinker in a tournament, surprise surprise....
To be expected 😮
From this commentary it seems that any starting 11 Southgate puts on will result in a stink fest. So maybe it really isn't a WORLD CLASS squad? And if you really look at it, compared to any other Top 8 squad, England's bench apart from Palmer is maybe just a little above average. Even in this match, do you really think that Eze and Gordon, with less than 10 caps for England combined, are that much better than Haraslin or Schranz? Of course England can play better, but the delusion is just ridiculous. And I don't buy the criticism of Southgate in this match. He made good subs in ET that helped to manage the game till the end. And the second half overall was good, knowing that Slovakia is a very hard team to break down.
I’m 31 years old. Gareth Southgate is the only manager I’ve seen to take us to a final. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT! tournament football is different and the only thing that matters is winning. Bunch of mugs
Southgate out
Gomez did awesome… against Luton Fulham palace Burnley Sheff Utd but poor against the likes of Arsenal Man Utd Villa. Do I need to point out why? 8:13
He kept Bellingham and Kane on in hope rather than with any plan. He threw random players on at random times. Toney was fuming when he came on, imagine throwing on a striker who didn’t have any minutes for possibly 2min to try win game, it was laughable, just extremely lucky it kind of worked out. Why he puts Eze on instead of Gordon too, that lad needs to get on the pitch. All England play is pass pass pass, nobody runs with the ball apart from Palmer and Gordon
1. Walker was poor last game too. Hes been found out.
2. Gomez is better at LB than trippier because even though he is right footed, he doesn’t NEED to cut onto his right foot and pass back like trippier does. He is more adept on his left.
You got lucky. You have been the poorest team in the tournament, but again you’re on the easiest side of the draw so watch you guys win it. But with the squad of players you have got you should be winning things
Southgate shown time and time again he has no clue about game management someone needs to investigate how he managed to get his uefa pro licence I’m in the process of working towards getting mine and someone like him would never get thought the course his paid over the top because it’s unbelievable watching his team having no principles of play they look lost and his game management is none existent he needs to drop back down to grassroots Sunday level to develop his that bad that a parent could probably out manage him 🤡🚮
We’re the worst side at this tournament somehow at the Quarterfinals stage but that will be it. Never have seen such a poor attacking National team ever the balance is wrong the first 11 stinks and the squad is so unbalanced it’s unreal Trippier need to go off home and Walker & Stones all need to leave the starting 11 and now Guehi is out who’s been the best defender by miles.
Kane and Bellingham will deliver us the euros we have the easiest route to the final with piss easy teams yes I know our performance has been shocking but we always find a way to scrape wins we've been missing a big time player like Bellingham
Kyle walker is a huge reason why our right side is rubbish. He loves to trot forward then chop back and pass it to the side or back.
Why isn't gordon starting on the left....i just don't understand it. Gives us width fml
When jason said ' J its happening mate' in response to Foden playing on the left 😂😂😂😂 brilliant
Trent right wing 😂😂😂😂 some of these callers are delusional
Lamine Yamal CLEAR of Engl@nd by miles 😂
Just needs another 216 shots and he might actually score a goal. 😂
95 mins and only 2 subs used at 1-0 down you can’t defend that! And don’t dare defend that!
We won
The subs aren't gunna save us it would have been just the same
I don't care any more, That overhead kick loooooooool
Konsa needs to play next game centre half for me
Kyle walker was absolutely terrible today
Liversnmento was class on for us this season
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Don't give up day job fellas
Tonev tho was unreal when he come on
We got LUCKY. End of.
We've qualified in spite of Clowngate, not because of him. Having to rely on a piece of magic from Bellingham in the dying seconds of the game is NOT good management. GET CLOWNGATE OUT NOW.
It’s coming home
United dodged a bullet.
Then got one between the eyes with anthomy 😂😂😂
Pains me to say it but trippier being injured is going to be a blessing
Just need Southgate to use Gordon to run at players and get in around the back
Amassing decision, Fouden and Tripier out, and change the game, congratulations to Southgate.
Coke sniffers 😂
They're not even trying to hide it 😂
So let me get this straight, Southgate gets no credit for CHOOSING to keep on Bellingham and kane who both score but he'd get slaughtered if they hadn't scored for not "having the courage" to sub them for fresh legs 🤷
Southgate gets called lucky because these players have "bailed him out" yet he gets no credit for picking these players and making subs that have affected the game 🤷
He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't and im sick of the toxicity from all the Debbie downers.
Criticism is ok if its intelligent and constructive but just calling southgate names and calling england woeful is overboard and pointless.
I'm sorry but Southgate deserves no credit for that win tonight.
He is genuinely devoid of any managerial talent and tonight showed that perfectly.
We have the best squad in this tournament (despite Southgate trying to ruin that as well bringing Shaw) and we have a wealth of attacking talent that he doesn't use.
He sets up exactly the same every game - there is no thought about the actual opposition that we're playing.
His game management is seriously lacking, both in terms of changing shape and subs. At half time we were crying out to change that front 3 - bringing on Toney with 2 mins are you joking?
We didn't win that tonight because of Southgate - we won that because of pure chaos.
I'm not even sure what formation or style of play we were going for at the end. About 8 defenders, Saka playing in goal probably - it was pure chaos and we won from a long throw and a magical bicycle kick.
@@joebees21 "Best squad" is debatable.
I'm not saying Southgate doesn't have any faults but saying he sets up every game the same is just straight up false, you only have to look at the Trent in midfield "experiment" as a prime example. He also often plays 3 at the back or 4 and he's constantly bringing in new players to the squad over the years. The whole Southgate plays the same way all the time is a myth.
We actually weren't crying out to change the front 3 at half time, if you remember, England we're well on top of Slovakia in the last 10 mins of the first half so it's completely understandable that Southgate wanted to see if that would carry on from kick off of the second half which it did.
His decision not to sub kane and Bellingham was proven to be the right call as they both scored. I'm sure he didn't want to play Toney at all but at that late stage when balls will be flying in it made sense to use him for the last 8 mins or so (2+6 added on).
I didn't see chaos, I saw Southgate improvising making calculated gambles but we still had a Southgate formation and our dominance continued all that second half. If Foden and kane score those sitters it's game over before the late drama anyway, both misses aren't southgates fault
@@philbarton2832 I'm gonna have to completely disagree with you here mate.
First of all you can't seriously be using the Trent in midfield experiment as an example of Southgates tactical ability.
I'll leave that one because it isn't even fair.
Second of all, we have played the exact same formation with the exact same 10 players in every game so far and that includes the same back 4.
We haven't played a back 3 we've played a back 4.
We were crying out to change the front 3.
Yes you can say Kane scored but that could've been anyone there.
Foden and Kane were as ineffective as they have been all tournament and Saka was getting bullied.
It was crying out for a change of Gorden, Palmer and Watkins/Toney.
Look how much we improved when Palmer came on.
Okay I'll take your point that Southgate wanted to see if the momentum continued in the second half but when nothing happened by the 60th minute - where was the sub?
He doesn't make tactical substitutions ever.
I don't mean to be rude but I don't know what game you were watching at the end if you thought that was a calculated move by Southgate.
He basically threw the kitchen sink at it and threw everyone on.
We had about 5 defenders, almost everyone was playing out of formation.
It was chaos and we won there because they're good players.
How is bringing on Toney with 6 minutes to go gonna do anything?
@@joebees21 I used the Trent point as a counter to your point of saying Southgate doesn't change it up, using Trent in midfield shows that he does change it up.
I agree with you that he should change the players a little bit more, even though Foden played alot of good crosses against Slovakia I can't help but think Gordon as a natural and more direct LW would of been a better option.
He changed to a back 3 in the second half last match.
It could of been anyone there but it also could not, the fact is kane WAS there and Southgate gambled to keep him on even though he was fatigued. Same with Bellingham, both players were knackered but Southgate knew big players make big moment's so his calculated gamble paid off on both counts.
When Trippier came off injured it was a big call to move Saka at to LWB because Southgate knew we were all over them and wanted more attacking players on the pitch, Saka did a job for us and should be commended.
Toney came on in the last 8 mins not 6, managers throw on a striker with around 10 mins to go all the time. Southgate was playing all his cards at that point, I believe he knew England had at least one more chance at scoring seen as we were battering them, he believed we'd equalise and then he knew Toney is a very good target man for extra time and he proved it with his header to kane for the winner in extra time.
You can try and downplay it as "throwing the kitchen sink" but these players are on the bench for a reason, subs constantly prove how important they can be.
PICKFORD
TAA STONES KONSA SAKA
MAINOO BELLINGHAM
PALMER FODEN GORDON
KANE
Rice not been good enough and kane needs to play high and push back opposition defence or he's off for Watkins
Where we go from here is the next round.
Saka at wingback was interesting
Foden should not be starting.
O'hara talks shite
Colombian marching powder makes you waffle
EZE was terrible! He was so bad So Slovakia didn’t know how to deal with him! His spooner of a shot landed on Toneys head!
I feel for Southgate, he's got further than anyone else since 66 and id love it if he could depart the job with a winners medal. Think he deserves to
What world class players does England have? All these English players aren’t the best players at their club teams. This tournament was their opportunity to prove that their players are world class and so far we haven’t seen it.
"we went through because of the individual talent of the players on the pitch, but Southgate got it wrong" All of the pundits I have heard will have dropped H.Kane and/or J.Beliingham, or subbed them at 60 minutes. Leave them to it, our biggest worry is missing Ghuehi, not the manager, the tactics, the opponents, or the starting squad. Saving the subs for extra time was wise, and keeping our most talented players on for the majority of the match is inarguable, the goals proved that!