Why use Amiga in 2011? (AmigaOS 4, MorphOS, AROS, AmigaOS 3.9)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @piotras2137
    @piotras2137 5 лет назад +20

    Please make version for 2019

  • @Ccoolty
    @Ccoolty 10 лет назад +15

    So basically what I got out of this video was the only reason you use amigaOS or any of the variants is because it gives you a warm nostalgic feeling?

    • @RJLightning68
      @RJLightning68 6 лет назад +1

      Hey, what's wrong with that? :wink:

  • @barryinglaterra
    @barryinglaterra 11 лет назад +44

    Looking forward to "Why use an Amiga in 2014?"

    • @venni82
      @venni82 10 лет назад +7

      Defender of the Crown :)

    • @jayyyzeee6409
      @jayyyzeee6409 5 лет назад +4

      Looking forward to "Why use an Amiga in 2052?"

  • @ScottLahteine
    @ScottLahteine 9 лет назад +2

    I used to write 6502 code for the Atari and 680x0 code for the Amiga back in the 80's, and it's amazing to be able to run these systems today, whether on new hardware or under emulation. And tempting to write apps and games for these legacy platforms, just for fun.

  • @JJbm4233
    @JJbm4233 3 года назад

    Dan I truly love this video, the best part of it truly is that a site in 2021 for the first time congrats man

  • @dojohansen123
    @dojohansen123 12 лет назад +1

    So in summary, the reasons for having an Amiga in our time and age are nostalgia, nostalgia, and nostalgia. If you aren't an Amiga nostalgic, there apparently are no reasons at all. I'm disappointed. :(

  • @JJbm4233
    @JJbm4233 3 года назад

    I would just like to say it is a fantastic video, and that’s from somebody who sought for the first time in 2021. It is still worth watching for quality well done Dan

  • @JohnnyReb1976
    @JohnnyReb1976 10 лет назад +3

    Loved Hired Guns. One guy on joystick, another on keyboard, third one on mouse... All looking at a 14" CRT. Priceless.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад +2

    @Gefrce I've used AmigaOS since around 1991 and it's the OS I feel most comfortable with, understand the most and above all, enjoy using. There's not much it can do that my PC/Mac can't, except run some apps I like, and let me be involved in the community. It's just a hobby really these days.

  • @yugen042
    @yugen042 8 лет назад +11

    You didn't really explain why one would use this. Does it have any advantages over a modern Linux Distribution?

    • @mario_9431
      @mario_9431 5 лет назад +3

      I think it's just a niche :/

  • @stormshadow5555
    @stormshadow5555 10 лет назад +22

    A better title to this video would have been;
    "Why use a modernized Amiga Operating System from a long ago obsolete computer on relatively recent Apple Macintosh hardware in the year 2011, yet, ultimately, I'm never going to explain why....". =)

    • @danwood_uk
      @danwood_uk  10 лет назад +1

      Well the last third of the video is on a Commodore Amiga using a 68030...

    • @agustinvlad
      @agustinvlad 10 лет назад +4

      kookytech.net (techguruuk) Apple guys are still angry about the fact that the Video Toaster was available only on Amiga!

    • @scrutinizer0136
      @scrutinizer0136 10 лет назад

      vlad "Apple guys are still angry about the fact that"- how old are you? Who are these guys and why they're allegedly "angry"? I'm "an Apple guy" and am NOT angry. Apple do theirs and Amiga DID theirs. What anger are you speaking about? Grow up, man.

    • @scrutinizer0136
      @scrutinizer0136 10 лет назад

      Monster LMA Ok, but why use "angry"? Nobody's or was angry. It's about technology not about your mom's dirty clothes, why such emotions?
      Besides, where's Amiga now and where's Apple? History of technology has already marked the end.

    • @arthurependragone1992
      @arthurependragone1992 9 лет назад

      Amiga is still far ahead of everyone else its funny . Apple copies and still a pos.
      Amiga true 64bit and can use the ITANIUM us stuck with crappy 8bit x86 please give me a brake pffft.

  • @pryletoncyo
    @pryletoncyo 12 лет назад +1

    You're grasping for the name of the original GUI on the original AmigaOS. It was called Intuition. And of course the reason why Guru Meditation became so famous among Amiga users was that programmers migrating from 8-bit machines that didn't have multitasking never bothered to learn how to write programs on a machine that had real multitasking but no hardware memory protection.

  • @boltingskyline
    @boltingskyline 11 лет назад

    Buddy!!! You're video's are the most concise anybody has seen on RUclips! Trust on that! You're doing a fab job! Keep up the good work! Best Wishes!!!

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад +4

    Responsiveness does not equal raw processing power. Windows may run at a decent speed, but only because it's not optimized and the programmers just "throw the hardware at it" to coin an old expression. AmigaOS was originally designed to run on a 1mb 7mhz 68000, while it's had a fair bit added to it over the last decade or so, its optimized roots are still there. An Amiga operating system in my experience is ALWAYS more responsive to user actions than any Windows PC I've ever used.

    • @fuzzywzhe
      @fuzzywzhe 6 лет назад +1

      I tried Aros, feels like a mess to me. Frustrating as hell. But whatever.
      It runs on the Raspberry PI, not that I bothered to install it there - just a VM

  • @ifedthehorse
    @ifedthehorse 12 лет назад +1

    Back in the day, back in the day. Back in the day back in the day.
    Back in the day? Back... in the day.
    Back in the day back in the day back in the day.

  • @vapourmile
    @vapourmile 13 лет назад +1

    I have to compliment on a rarity in this type of video. Ironically, the typically aggressive stance the Amiga fanbase takes to its promotion style was a key motivator in what deterred me from the platform in the eighties. Taking a clinical outlook and illustrating with verifiable facts is a lot more convincing.

  • @Deetronic
    @Deetronic 13 лет назад +1

    Very nice video. I am glad you are still enjoying Amiga world like I used to :) Great old times! :) :) :)

  • @Zeroethorder
    @Zeroethorder 11 лет назад

    I love that a British guy is so in love with Amiga, because I could listen to you say "Amiger" all day and it wouldn't be less funny.
    Seriously though, good vid man, keep it up, it's interesting to see someone so involved with AmigaOS in this day and age. I could never do it myself. Maybe on one computer, like a portable web browser or something, but to be stuck with old

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад

    Yes it's fantastic! I now use it with an Indivision AGA II as well, it has HDMI, S-Video, Scart, RGB, DVI, Component, Composite, every connector I can think of to connect all my classic machines. Also has a built in flicker fixer too, looks nice and sharp. Highly recommend it

  • @Anonyminded
    @Anonyminded 12 лет назад

    Amiga as OS is pretty cool to watch how it behaves and works still in these days and how compatible it is, so huge thumbs up!

  • @vidskitkid
    @vidskitkid 12 лет назад

    WOW thanks so much for this. I bought my A500 in the late 80's moved up to an Amiga2000 & used that for years before I reluctantly gave it up for Windows 95 sigh! I had been following the Amiga since up until maybe 2 years ago so this was a nice surprise almost brought me to tears (of joy) I just got e-mail from an old Amiga buddy and we are planning a meeting with like minded friends. That prompted me to poke around the Amiga scene again & I found you. Now I gotta check more of your videos.

  • @hakanthorngren1406
    @hakanthorngren1406 6 лет назад

    Lots of people that cannot understand why you would use an Amiga today. I struggle with that too, but I think it is the fun factor, along with doing something different.
    And just look at this video, 286K views(!) which means that people surely are interested in this.
    I really like that white glossy Commodore gaming case with the smallish Amiga logo, very stylish!

  • @NickHobbs
    @NickHobbs 13 лет назад

    Really appreciate you posting this vid. Great to see someone is still using Amiga!

  • @tzeimet
    @tzeimet 12 лет назад +1

    Whats the point if it only works on PowerPC architecture.

  • @usquanigo
    @usquanigo 12 лет назад +1

    @techguruuk The command key is as specific to Apple as the Windows and Task keys are to Windows. It's the same difference.
    The temp folder is managed based on how you have it configured, if you set a size limit, it won't grow past and everything will eventually be over-written. And you should periodically purge that cache regardless, so in the end, again, it is the same difference.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад +1

    Nice one, I was playing Gloom Deluxe again the other day actually. Gloom is still a fantastic game and engine, by far the best of the Amiga FPS shooters I reckon.

  • @yorkshireplumbing
    @yorkshireplumbing 13 лет назад +1

    You didn't really answer your original question: why use an Amiga in 2011. I see no benefit to stray from Windows or OSx.

  • @pathduck
    @pathduck 12 лет назад

    Ah yes, Dir.Opus and Protracker, that brings it all back. Cheers for the video mate, very interesting stuff!

  • @abstracttim7428
    @abstracttim7428 13 лет назад

    Really great, informative video!
    Gives people an insight into why people still use and love Amiga OS (and variants). Especially people that might have never heard of them.

  • @DrCircuit
    @DrCircuit 12 лет назад

    Interesting video. Thanks for filming and uploading it.
    The software content has piqued my interest sufficiently that I'm going to follow the links you've included.
    And I like the hardware content too. The eclectic mix of hardware (case, keyboard, etc) to produce such a sleek set-up scores major 'cool' points!
    Good to see someone following their own path. Kudos to you! :-)

  • @animaze86
    @animaze86 13 лет назад

    Fantastic video! Thank you for this. It feels great to know there are true Amiga-heads like us out there. I really enjoyed the detail and articulated explanation of your experiences. Also, I must find one of those white Eyetech cases! That AmigaONE machine of yours is really something. I can't wait for the X1000 as well. Anyway, Well done sir. Amiga Forever :)

  • @AhdelEssam
    @AhdelEssam 11 лет назад +1

    thats what i meant by saying architectural changes, means fundamental rewrites of the kernel, like how windows and mac had such changes, from co-operative multitasking to NT and mach based kernels, windows used much ideas from VMS and now Mac uses much from unix in general and BSD in particular, i believe Amiga is about innovations, we might have a microkernel with memory protection with also good performance. thats my wish

  • @dmppid
    @dmppid 13 лет назад

    I had no idea there was still an Amiga scene or that there is a up-to-date Amiga OS. Thanks for the video!

  • @artisticgoose2609
    @artisticgoose2609 11 лет назад +6

    I FEEL SOOO OLD!!!!!!! I miss my Amigas........... :(

    • @bulentgercek
      @bulentgercek 10 лет назад

      Me too man me too... I got same feelings.

  • @HaganeSteel
    @HaganeSteel 13 лет назад

    What fascinates me is how compatible it is with older Amiga stuff. It's nice that people are preserving the past like this.

  • @Yezu666
    @Yezu666 12 лет назад +1

    This is a very interesting video but it doesn't answer the question: Why use Amiga in 2011?
    So why would anyone use Amiga in 2011? Except for the fact that it is possible.

  • @nourdan4228
    @nourdan4228 7 лет назад +1

    Love the AmigaOS 4, it's a fun to use operating system.

  • @Alphadec
    @Alphadec 13 лет назад +1

    I left my beloved amiga in 1993 when cbm did fold!. There is still nothing like it even I now use pc... One thing I do still not understand is this, why spend LOTS on a computer with ZERO software support I see your Os 4.1 runs blistering fast but u still don't have any big software to run on it other then software made in the golden amiga days. If there was software like firefox/mozilla then I would love to go back to amiga. Please tell me WHY! ???

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад

    @sqned You can, I was mistaken, oops. They added context menus to allow this in 4.1.2 it seems.

  • @OzDracula
    @OzDracula 12 лет назад +1

    Just a tip. There is usually something you can select on your camera to turn off autofocus.

  • @ejay1118
    @ejay1118 10 лет назад +1

    I appreciate that you like the Amiga, but I think the question should be; "Why should I pay $$$$ for an Amiga as opposed to $$$ for a PC?" Not being a "power user," I don't see where any of this would do me any good.

  • @pleasurekevin5412
    @pleasurekevin5412 9 лет назад +11

    ok but "Why use Amiga in 2011?"
    not sure if this was answered. this is more like "how" than "why".

  • @LeeOades
    @LeeOades 12 лет назад

    Fascinating. I've not used an Amiga since my A500 days and had no idea about the more modern OS variants.
    Great to see Hired Guns though - oh the memories!

  • @stormshadow5555
    @stormshadow5555 10 лет назад +11

    Ultimately, you never answered the question of the title of your video; "Why use an Amiga in the year 2011?", (even though I'm posting this comment in 2014.) =)

    • @danwood_uk
      @danwood_uk  10 лет назад +14

      For fun

    • @leerees
      @leerees 9 лет назад +1

      I'm starting to get sentimental, I think I might bust out windows 2. To be fair to him, the Amiga was awesome but you're right, absolutely no point in using an Amiga today. When's Forza coming out on the spectrum?

  • @janmansde3dede
    @janmansde3dede 12 лет назад +1

    Sure it isn't god hardware like the original Amiga line but as a fan it is still better than a Mac or PC right ?

  • @joshuaburt4853
    @joshuaburt4853 11 лет назад

    love this video, I cant believe its back and so much better looking cant wait to load my g4 up

  • @Sadukar7thLegion
    @Sadukar7thLegion 12 лет назад

    I like a person who knows what they are talking about, well done mate, we seem to be on the same wavelength, DOS forever, thanks for the reply. Take care.

  • @umaralansari
    @umaralansari 12 лет назад +1

    So what do you do with all your Amigas?

  • @gjc82071
    @gjc82071 12 лет назад +1

    If you just want to play some old Amiga games, you know you can just use an emulator on a Windows PC, right? I have Amiga Forever & WinUAE + a TOSEC/Fullset with every Amiga game ever made. (19,000+ game files)

  • @craigjones8558
    @craigjones8558 11 лет назад

    Thank you techguruuk. Oh the memories.... and all the things I forgot I loved about the Amiga :)

  • @TYNEPUNK
    @TYNEPUNK 12 лет назад

    my old installs remain too - thanks for this video man watched intently

  • @smellcaster
    @smellcaster 12 лет назад +1

    PowerPC WindowsNT had a Compatibility Layer.

  • @plopperator
    @plopperator 11 лет назад +1

    I still don't understand the point of using an amiga in this day and age

  • @RollinShultz
    @RollinShultz 5 лет назад

    My favorite programs were Directory Opus, Aladdin 4D, and Real 3D. I spent so much time modeling on them.

  • @Sadukar7thLegion
    @Sadukar7thLegion 12 лет назад +1

    I agree, XP was solid if you knew what you were doing.

  • @enzoscifo
    @enzoscifo 13 лет назад +1

    Why use a Commodore 64 in 2012? Because I can.

  • @SystemError51
    @SystemError51 12 лет назад

    Wow man - this took me back to my childhood days. I'm considering getting some PPC Macs and installing AmigaOS on those. Thanks for the idea :)

  • @slayerfans
    @slayerfans 13 лет назад

    Best 30 mins I've spent all week, thank you! THANK YOU!

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  11 лет назад

    Yeah I've tried doing videos that way, only thing is it's very difficult to see if text on the screen is actually in focus on my tiny view-finder.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  11 лет назад

    The Amiga 1200 shown in the last 1/4 of the video is an original Commodore machine from 1992 (albeit assembled by Escom), it is certainly an Amiga. The other machines are an AmigaOne, Mac Mini and a PC running operating systems that are API/Binary compatible with the Amiga and evolved from it's legacy.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад

    @djrikki2008 You know what, you're right! My mistake, just realised you can do this from the context menus in 4.2.1. I take that back then, just assumed it was the way it had always been from the Icons menu.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад

    @usquanigo I am aware you can play mods on other platforms of course. Mac keyboards have not had Apple keys on them since 2008, they just have a key with CMD written on it, no logos anywhere on them apart from the label underneath. Run on Windows is not the same as the RAM Disk, windows simply downloads the file to the Temp directory on the hard disk, they stay in there afterwards to until you/the system does a clean up, so they still take up disk space.

  • @PDW98
    @PDW98 12 лет назад +1

    Two words: focus lock.
    jumping in and out of focus is extremely distracting.

  • @Edge0fPain
    @Edge0fPain 12 лет назад +1

    All OSes can do that. On Windows I use ImDisk. I haven't bothered making a RAM drive on Linux yet

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад

    For MorphOS just a supported PPC Mac is cheapest way, if you want AmigaOS 4 then a Sam 440/460 board is the most affordable new hardware, or you can look around for a used AmigaOne board or Pegasos II, if you're feeling flush, an AmigaOne X1000 is out there, but not cheap. Try Amigakit and Amibay.

  • @boilermaker814
    @boilermaker814 13 лет назад

    this video single handedly made me want an amiga machine..great video

  • @AhdelEssam
    @AhdelEssam 11 лет назад +1

    of course i didn't mean official Amiga, i meant projects like Aros, still such projects have no plans for making massive changes, they are just Amiga fans trying to keep Amiga alive, DragonflyBSD is a success, and uses some concepts from Amiga, and its modern server oriented OS, seems everyone exploring new things except Amiga people are building an OS only for Amiga fans

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  11 лет назад

    They're not shipped with one, but there is a very good one for MorphOS called Grunch.

  • @Tenbegdoh
    @Tenbegdoh 12 лет назад +1

    I don't quite understand where you're coming from with this video. You can pick up quicker x86 hardware for peanuts now, you know that.
    I want to come back to the fold, but I like games too much. Also, my years old Vista system currently has an uptime of 1825 hours and is running fine.

  • @poeserDaddler
    @poeserDaddler 12 лет назад

    The listing of software was intended to show that there are alternatives on the Amiga for the programs you had listed and of course it is the same clients on both system who use these kinds of software.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад

    Yeah, I did try that, unfortunately it's hard to tell if the screen is in focus on a tiny view-finder, I had to re-record the video due to it actually being out of focus with manual. Hey-ho

  • @ourladyspupil
    @ourladyspupil 13 лет назад

    Still love my Amiga's. Still have few of them including Full Tower that Eyetech helped me build in 1998 and cost a fortune! Had every update they could put in it!!

  • @91120dark
    @91120dark 11 лет назад +1

    I was wondering as xbox360 is using a nice PowerPC CPU and as it features a nice Open Source and legal bootloader, could it be possible to use AmigaOS or MorphOS on an xbox360 ??

  • @kexith
    @kexith 13 лет назад

    The white case is really nice, I'd be keen to get an AmigaOS again and would be great to use it as my everyday machine but until more applications get developed for it, I can't see it happening. I remember one of the great features of AmigaOS was the ARexx language, that was really powerful and I'm not sure anything comparable exists today.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад

    Yeah can't seem to find manual focus on my camera, probably buried somewhere deep in the menus.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад

    @clusterukdevelopment I always enjoy your videos too fella, thanks for commenting.

  • @fademan
    @fademan 8 лет назад +1

    greetings from west yorkshire , i wish to meet you mate :D

  • @judgewest2000
    @judgewest2000 13 лет назад

    Excellent work! Well done.
    Your fans LOVE these videos.

  • @TYNEPUNK
    @TYNEPUNK 12 лет назад

    love the chuckle after showing the clock

  • @The_Temple
    @The_Temple 6 лет назад +1

    really ought to make another update .... rather substantial changes have occurred since then (still are really) regarding the Amiga

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад

    @vudarksky I've used Ubuntu since 2004, what's your point?

  • @janmansde3dede
    @janmansde3dede 12 лет назад

    Hats off to you, the scene should be full of people like you as the Amiga is much more than just games, those people screaming "its not Amiga, it isn't 68k nor OCS" shouldn't actually have accounts on Amiga sites like Amiga world and Amiga org but on some generic retro games'n nostalgia site so they can happily talk about Ocean movie licensed games.

  • @roberthazelby
    @roberthazelby 13 лет назад

    A really detailed and well put together video. I'd love to dabble with OS4.x, but the prices are just too prohibitive at present. The rumoured netbook, if it comes to fruition, could be my entry point. At present I use my expanded A1200 for retro gaming, demo scene and attempting to get to grips with AMOS.

  • @amigajunkie
    @amigajunkie 12 лет назад +1

    Amiga a great machine. But in 2012? Linux is the new Amiga as far as I'm concerned... Aros for x86 is buggy, internet stack supports very limited WiFi chipsets, and it has no memory protection which crashes the whole system when.a program crashes. AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS are proprietary, closed source, and run on aging PPC hardware.

  • @SynchroRat
    @SynchroRat 8 лет назад +1

    can you install MORPH OS on the amiga forever amgia 4000 ppc?

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад

    @syner79 Hey. it runs using the inbuilt JIT compiler, it's a 68K app but it will just run seamlessly in OS4, no emulation required. It's like using the fastest classic machine you could find.

  • @arthurependragone1992
    @arthurependragone1992 12 лет назад +1

    i have to correct myself aros is a pos to . they went back to msodos shell .Its 8bit. They emulate. So as it stands there are no True Amiga oses out there besides amiga os 3.9.2.
    NOT one period.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад

    @nutellajunkie Thanks for the comment, I think you'll miss the Amiga and be back one day, I did :)

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад +2

    Suppose it was more why "I use Amiga in 2011" really, of which there are a few answers, but really for "fun".

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps 4 года назад

      Main answer - because new PCs cost lots of money and after a year are as slow as an Amiga anyway.

  • @JohanBrodd
    @JohanBrodd 12 лет назад

    This is a great video. Subscribed, and liked it as well. Keep 'em coming, and I'll keep watching.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад

    Yep, but it's been bundled/an official part of the OS since version 3.5 iirc.

  • @TheFalkon1000
    @TheFalkon1000 10 лет назад +4

    I still can't understand why people still want to use an Amiga these days.
    I used to have a Amiga 500, 500+, 600 and it was a really great machine but using an Amiga in 2014 sounds crazy and retrograde to me.
    Amiga is a gaming machine from the 80's. Let him rest in peace ^^

    • @c0unt_WAVnstein
      @c0unt_WAVnstein 6 лет назад +1

      If you don't want to use one then don't. If hobbyists do want to use one, that's their business.

    • @hellomate7681
      @hellomate7681 6 лет назад

      No! Let him raise in function

    • @RollinShultz
      @RollinShultz 5 лет назад

      A gaming machine? Tell that to Industrial Light and Magic which got it's start with Amigas / with Video Toasters added. PCs couldn't do what a Video Toaster did back then.

  • @jjk9999
    @jjk9999 12 лет назад +1

    3 minutes in and absolutely NO reasons why you actually still use the Amiga.

  • @andamat
    @andamat 13 лет назад

    I honestly had no idea that a lot of Amigas were even still around, let alone being actively developed for! Haven't seen one in probably around 20 years:-)

  • @Checkmate1500
    @Checkmate1500 13 лет назад

    Brilliant video, thanks for mentioning Aros. I hope to get my X1000 soon as well.

  • @inDASHcorrect
    @inDASHcorrect 13 лет назад

    I will buy Amigas in the future, but also I wonder about your HD camera. I am also shopping for HD camera. What type of HD camera is it?

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  13 лет назад

    @MrBarrelson Unfortunately not, only minis, powermacs and emacs iirc. I think the iMac has nvidea graphics and MOS only has drivers for Radeons.

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  11 лет назад

    You could maybe put MorphOS on it yeah, depending on the exact model.

  • @dombekdr
    @dombekdr 12 лет назад

    Great Work mate! Hopefully Amiga will never die!

  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  12 лет назад

    The community do, most of the apps are home-brew or ports. Mainstream support is mostly non-existent these days. But funnily enough, out of the three you mention, yes there is a Spotify version in development for AmigaOS 4.