[WARFRAME NEWS] NEW EVENT "Belly Of The Beast" Loot Info / Restrictions Information | Dante Unbound
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- They clearly don't want us to "overfarm" and not that I was really planning on doing that but looks like they are potentially worried about exploits and potentially us playing the new game mode "too much" hopefully it will still be fun but I am worried about player numbers after a week or two with this capped out loot.
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Gaz i want that framefighter 1v1 dont hide from me
lol u actaully play that?
@@GazTTV a duel in framefighter the perfect way to settle a fight
@GazTTV thats most peoples response, that and its barely playable on a good day lol
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I got challenged for funzies and walked into a trap of back to back Ls from a kid who seemed to just login for nothing else but framefighter
Spot on take on arcane economy, Why does DE need to be dishonest, it's so weird. We understand supply and demand, we know platinum is a tool as much as currency. If they hate "burnout", why not fix Corrupted Holokeys? Getting one set of 40 makes me a sad panda every time.
Good point it's a red herring
i am 100% convinced the "burnout" as the reason is just a red haring
the main reason is to not let the player horde on arcanes so the market wouldn't crash a second time right after gargoyle event.
if burnout was the main reason, then they could have solved it with reducing the grind
and its none of the DE's business how i or anyone else wants to spend our time in game, nor anyone asked for them to be out babysitters
the game is rated M for mature, pretty sure its up to us when to stop, not them.
True
rip future plaguestar then
We will see
Dude they can't do that to plague star, the only reason I don't have over 500 forma is that I was on breaks specifically on plague star events, if the next time they cap the amount of forma you can get I'd f*cking go complete apes*it on DE. I'm tired of spending 35p per pack because I can't get enough forma.
I’m one of those people that usually have around 20 to 25 max arcane energize sets by the end of a event lol guess I was part of the problem 😂
well good think u grinded so much b cuz its capped now lol
@@GazTTV yeah I’d say.. never thought they would take this approach.
I'm the lazy one who bought energize when price dropped !!!
yeah, how dare you actually play the game
20-25 max energize 😮 mf when do you sleep 💀
I don't know how to feel about the situation. It is the same explanation about the open world Syndicate rep caps, again burn out protection. maybe it's time to take a look at legendary aracanes' drop rates from their common drop spots, mainly talking about the profit taker and the eidolons fights. maybe a petty shop should be made for them. I'll be cautious about this, and warframe is the rice fields of grinding, and this feels weird
standing caps are not burnout protection, they are player retention.
@@uberwarlocker And with this event, I'd say it seems they want many people to get on the game without taking away too much from the retention provided by the standard slow and steady arcane farm, as well as of course the plat purchased for those trades.
I was on the stream and when they said that I was like wait what no no you can't do that to me If i want to burnout my self I will
Alot of games feel like they want less players to play their games lately. Could be me.
@@bobbymoore8030 Or devs are just concerned for the well-being of their players.
If you're not a moron you won't harm yourself@@randomgamer6774
Im sure their data shows people quitting the game after an event like that, so they are fixing the problem.
@@perrystuart8035 Except it makes sense to havve less people playing after major events?
I literally did not even play the last Plague Star event because it was a miserable mission and not even the rewards could sway me.
I don't just agree with DE here, I also want them to make the events not suck so much if they're going to balance the farm in other ways.
I feel like the only reason the events are so painfully awful is because they *had* to be that way or everyone would have 500 forma and 15 R5 energizes.
Respect my time, please, is all I'm saying.
Improving the events would be great
the shop should work like plague star's where the player does bounties for a guaranteed set standing amount and not need to do 168-504 runs for 42 of a specific arcane, using the Gargoyle's Cry math.
capping for the sake of market stability would be a fine excuse, but I hope DE doesn't start capping everything like the kuva from teshin. If they decided to cap relics from syndicates that would suck, even the thought of weapon exhilus adapters getting a cap feels gross.
If we're being honest with ourselves, kuva getting capped was because of an acoustic youtuber who took things a bit too far.
I think it's fine or even good design depending on the context, especially if these sorts of events happen more often as a result, but it's one of those things... When something is taken away, it sucks. Warframe established itself as a live-service game where you can pretty much play as much as you want whenever you want (Post-paid revives anyway), so it also attracted players who appreciate that. Over time the game became more time-sensitive and time-limited and stuff besides just simple events and some alerts, to some extent both a good thing and a bad thing in some cases, but freedom is something WF players REALLY appreciate.
We complain about daily/weekly caps etc. cause it's nice to be able to continue what we're doing if it's fun, also to play a lot and compensate on the few days you have available and stuff.
WF does have a lot of activities for most players, it's not like the game has a gacha energy system, but in a way, ''no you might burn out'' feels like the worst reason... I'm an adult, you know.
For plenty of people ''burning out'' is just how they play the game. New update/event? Hop on, play like crazy, all your friends are playing cause new stuff, and you're all back to other stuff when it gets boring again. Maybe they prefer steady log-ins, just live-service things I guess, but ironically, these players ACTUALLY burn out trying to play a game on the devs' terms.
How about a compromise, maybe? Your first x amount of missions come with a bonus reward, making going past that point only for people who really just wanna keep going even at reduced efficiency. If it's a store, provide more expensive versions of the arcane in unlimited or just REALLY high amounts. More casual players feel like it's worth their time, hardcore farmers will make it worth their time if it is balanced just right.
Lmao its not to prevent burnout, they just want people to buy more plat for their energize copies😂
exactly lol
Glad I'm not the only person who immediately thought that
I was thinking that Before they Even Streamed it.
It's not Like DE is a non profit Charity. I always Assume their Decisions are Financially Motivated.... Burnout My Foot !!! 👀
The best answer I've seen de is not slick
Honestly I'm shocked people are still farming for arcanes when arcane dissolution has been a thing for months now.
Because a random chance of getting a random arcane is still pretty bad and requires you to farm other Arcanes to power the Arcane Dissolution lottery for it.
in eidolon fights? yeah those are alot less popular nowadays
you're joking right
@defalt great plat farm, especially for persific sets of arcanes that will always set on demand like Energize
Arcane Dissolution is Exactly why people are Farming Arcanes.
2 max arcanes can end the event prematurely.
both would be great
Depends how long they take to farm. If it's a 10hr+ grind for each that should take most players at least a week or two to get
I had a weird new kind of burnout after grinding like 400 froma in Plague Star- I felt "burnt out" the rest of the game after it was over. I kept thinking "I'm just not feeling it, I'd rather be doing an event, even more Plague Star!" after weeks of nothing but Plague Star...
It made me realize how boring running through the weekly grind, mindlessly with no reason to team up, had gotten and how much more potential WF has with pretty much anything that mixes it up...
On the other hand, I did truly get burned out on Gargoyle's Cry after just a few total hours, so I just quit doing it. I had so few splinters that I didn't even bother to turn them in lol. I guess GC was just doing more of the Whispers that we were already doing before, then we continued doing Whispers. No question why people got burned out, doing the exact same content but with a little fear of missing out sprinkled in.
I’d probably need to see what the mission is like before I judge. I definitely hated that assassination mission after doing gargoyles cry. Haven’t done it since outside of like two elite arch’s. I maxed out most arcanes I didn’t have yet. I never have intentionally gone for like multiples of legendary arcanes just because it’s so much work to even get one. That said… I don’t think I like capping our grind. Feels kinda like the whole trade ban thing after endurance runs tbh
I haven't Done it Since the Event and I probably never Will. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same Goes for Alchemy, I'm Farming The Circuit Now so That I don't have to Deal with That Garbage when DE Adds it to The Circuit. Imagine Alchemy with This RNG... 😳
i think i might be a soft cap, like maybe you can get X sets of any given arcane with relative ease but after that if you want more sets THEN you have to go the extra mile. I just cant see them cutting of the flow all together with a hard cap like with relic packs and kuva
Maybe they can do like a soft cap, so getting to 2 sets would be for x amount of rep/currency, then anything beyond that would be increased to y amount.
Exactly what I was thinking, they could at least make it a compromise. Maybe even a cheap one with a reasonable cap, an expensive one with a crazy but still realistic cap. That would also prevent exploits from happening if it turns out to be possible to skip stuff and make it 10x as fast as normally possible etc.
Would like some events to be completely grindable and others capped on rewards but you get more for the time you put in, I'd simply like a mix.
Not a bad idea
I came back after gargoyles, i have level 1 energize. I would like to finish that up but also grind the other rare arcanes im missing.
I'd be fine with it if it also came with reduced grind. I burned out on Gargoyle's Cry before I maxed out all the sets I wanted.
If they remove the cap I would farm so many arcane energizes that the price would drop to 20p each
I might probably be thoght as a problem too because I have 10 r5 arcane energize at the last gargoyle event. But despite that I was really enjoying that event and I dont think I was tired at all playing warframe till now
Caps are the new normal in Warframe. If you want to be able to sit down and farm all day, for many days, and have a nice chill time getting more efficient at it, you are playing the wrong game now. RIP Warframe. Nightwave, 1 Umbra Forma every 8 weeks from Teshin, the weekly Kuva cap from Teshin, the Kahl missions (now a Bird3 purchase, but still only 1 per week), the fact that it takes 6 months to gather the arcanes from Acrithis, Archon Sorties, Incarnon weapons from the Circuit, Netracells/Archemedia, and now this clan event. There were other things that were kinda capped before, sure. But a clear trend lately of almost every single thing 'end game' being restricted to an extreme degree to prevent farming, and make rewards take FOREVER to acquire.
That said, doing this specifically for the FOURTH source of the "Eidolon Arcanes" is perfectly fine by this Eidolon hunter. I'm just disappointed by the overall trend I see in this game. The new frames and weapons and such are fun and well designed. But the farming is dead.
Im hoping we get more then just a Stalker Ship Skin for a Stalker Update. Also the Stalker event cosmetic is hopefully the Stalker/Acolyte helmet 🤞🤞
Like getting Stalker accessibility outside Duviri. I'd also like to see a War Incarnon since that's the last weapon in his aresonal that doesn't have one. (Plus no two handed melee incarnon yet)
By sets, does that mean a max arcane energize? So like 2 max arcane energize for this entire event?
Sorry for the dumb question, new to the game
all but confirms that the arcane mafia is paying off DE
'I did so much grind on that event dude I can't even play the game anymore' sounds hilarious. It's almost like there was a gun to the head
LET'S GOO GAZ
I read it as "two arcane sets" per type, not in general for the event. So you can get 2 sets of each arcane type. I think that would be fine. If it really is only 2 sets overall then we're gonna have an issue
You mentioned getting free Forma with each run of Plague Star. Well, Im at that point where if that kind of event reward returned then I would be grinding that event for a loooong time because I need Forma for crafting things.
I never got the chance to really play during most events. How difficult is it to get a full set of arcane?
On the business side of things I get why they put a cap on arcanes. Arcane energize used to be 50-100 bucks USD guaranteed for DE.
This, 100%.
Vets already have max A. Energize.
And they dont spend money in game long time (except for Tennogen)
New players don't.
And new players are one who spend money in warframe.
So De wants to make, mostly for those new playets to get free arcanes they want, and to spend plat od FASHION XD!
I Support DE decision.
what’s the shoulder piece mirage has on ?
The way they handle things is so wildly strange to me
I'm fine with capped arcanes either way, but ideally it's a limit of 2 per set of arcanes.
Allowing unlimited grinding for arcanes could also lead to market fixing, which has always been an issue in any game with trade.
Per arcane would better yeah
Not sure if they have clarified but when I heard that I took it to mean you could farm 2 of all arcane sets, so 42 energise, 42, grace etc etc?
To be honest during the gargoyle event, i have grinded 9 x R5 arcane energize and i don find myself burnt out at all 😅
Capped Rewards would be fine if they make the grind suck less.
But then Who would buy Platinum to Trade for Arcanes if Farming them Isn't Painful Anymore ?
See How Twisted this Whole Situation is ? 😳
I don't see what your angle is. Wouldn't capped rewards induce scarcity to promote platinum purchases? In that scenario, there's still incentive to buy plat, it's just from forced scarcity rather than tedium induced scarcity.
Maybe forced scarcity will be more fun? I haven't seen anyone try it before in recent memory.
@@kittentamer2164 people like to demonize DE whenever they touch their grind in any way. The change is probably a bit of both issues because yes there is more money for DE to make from plat purchases but at the same time the event burnout is very real with the way events are structured and you don't want a bunch of players leaving because they played the same mission for 100 hours during the 3 weeks it was up. If they make arcanes easier to get then people that spent so long farming eidolons or whatever will throw a fit over it also so I don't see DE making a choice that wins over everyone ever
Tbh summer comming, we love 'grind of pain' XD finishing some events with few... extra sets of arcanes for sell in future 🤭 but first time im happy? otherwise, I feel good, I will get what I can and return to our favorite daily routine which, however, does not take so much time. Yes, such temporal events in my addiction 😁👍
Good luck!
If people want to grind their butts off nonstop, that should be their choice. If they get burnt out, or not, it shouldn't matter.
You can get arcanes from the orphix railjack mission as well, but the drop rates are terrible.
somehow forgot about that dumpster
The Mission itself is Terrible. They Retweaked it to make it less Fun.
1.41% Energize, from erato orphix , GL that is burnout
@@lookalike4805and people gave great feedback at the time and DE didn’t do anything about it since nearly three years now!
I remember how excited I was as someone who doesn't wanna farm Eidolons... I didn't even give it a shot with how clearly ass it was. At least we got arcane transmutation now
I'm okay with them capping the events, if they can make the events more enjoyable and or offer more rewards per run of the event.
Maybe they know what they're doing in regards to burnout. Several years ago I grinded plaguestar about 60 forma with my nova and I think I ended up taking a 6 month or longer break after. Though now I'm out of forma again and I force myself to crack relics on saturdays until I have 7 forma blueprints I can then use to build each day throughout the week. But I actually like cracking relics so it's a win.
cracking relics is infinitely less tedious because the missions are very simple and you at least get some dopamine from the relics at the end. plague star is just boring and long and only worth doing for quick forma and the fact that you need to bring a good setup to speed up the long ass drone phase and boss that randoms are never geared up for makes it insanely tedious feeling.
i farmed 6 r5 energize... i did lose my mind but it was worth it
the only warframe content creator that actually replies in-game , much love gaz
Oh?
Well they need to do it to all of the grind missions
I think the cap is low unless it's per arcane, like, for example 2 r5 energize, 2 r5 trickery.
I think we need more info on this cap like is a per arcane or overall only 2 arcanes from the vender, or is it pyramid where the legendary arcanes are 2 and the common are like 6?
She specifically said it could be 2 of each. You don't have to worry about it only being 2 arcanes total
Man I wanted to hear when they’ll get her a colored printer
Im not too big on trading so id consider one set for each arcane fair.
I mean that still wouldn’t entice me since I have just about everything in warframe already
The 2 sets mean 2 r5 right?
wonder if they notice the population drops after those events.
Scarlet Spear burned me out for almost 2 years.
im currently not playing because of Plague Star followed by Gargoyles Cry.
Daily reminder farm forma with relics and claim daily, yes there is build time, but it's 5 times faster to get the BP. A capture or exterminate only takes about 2 min.
Indeed.... With Titania Killing Everything it Doesn't Take long at All.... That's Why I Stopped Doing Exterminate And Capture.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
im glad that DE will cap the reward from event.
i used to grind really hard, 40k plat is sitting in my inventory and have no idea what i should do with that, keep questioning myself about why i should play anymore, after got everything i want, now i lost all interest in the game, really miss the time when i had only few hundred plat, the game was so fun back then.
hope that ppl will enjoy the game more, spend more time to try new weapon and new build. Other than grind sht out of you and then get burn out, feel sick when you look at wf later, and quit.
90% friend of mine who quited wf, just because they grinded something really hard, and they got burned out.
I missed Plague Star by a week when i came back last time, spend so much plat since then for forma, farmed plat, but still plat
so, when next palgue star?
That’s dumb, ppl who put in the time should be rewarded
I mean for SS i nearly hit 1M points so I get it but i did that grind so i can own all possible arcanes at that time
Similar idea with netracells. I actually quite like the game mode, but having the rewards capped is actually making it feel more like a chore to tick off every week. It's way better now that they cleaned up its drop table, but if they hadn't and uncapped it, I think I'd be even happier. Even if I got the 400th Melee Influence, that'd still be vosfor. Idk. The way they did it is probably healthier for the game, but I would've preferred it uncapped. Especially since Archon shard combining requires 3 shards per, which is still a horrible value.
As for capped arcanes from the event, also not happy about that. If it's to avoid burnout, then maybe don't make the gameplay for the event a complete slog. In order to do Gargoyle's Cry efficiently, we had to do the Steel Path. In which, it was a complete bullet sponge and took way too long to kill. That. That is where the burnout came from. I finished a few important sets of Arcanes and dropped it. Gimme a proper *fun* endless game mode to play and we'll have this burnout conversation again.
the boss was not the issue with gargoyles cry lol it was collecting the eyes being slow
Got around 60 r3 contagion back when you could farm them from Deimos. Still haven't sold 'em all . Think it says sth.
3 nerfs later lol
Do you know if the krios signa will come back in the event?
No idea
oh boy
If it's a cap to the individual arcanes then I'll be fine personally, but also it's kinda like if someone wants to do that grind then I don't see why you should stop them. If they make it where you're limited as a whole across all the arcanes available to 2, like mentioned in the example, then this is very bad news bears IMO.
This change will be kind of okay if they hold arcane events regularly like every seasons or something, but if they're going to hold the events just randomly as they've done, it's just a bad change.
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I totally grinded Scarlet spear, Venom & Plague star to the point of not playing for a few months each time lol. But saying that not giving ppl that choice don't seem like the WF way.
Nothing we can Do About It.... Once DE make up their Minds they are going to be Pig Headed about the Whole Thing.
It's about demand and supply. As you mention, people would spend less plat on Energize... now if they do the same on plague star/Forma, which you buy directly with plat, is going to be another cash grab?
I follow your channel long time,think around when new Fortuna arcanes came out.
I think you were first one who made vids about new Fortuna arcanes waay before any other YT partner (Magus Anomaly, Magua Lockdown)
You couldnt find, except on your channel vids about new released arcanes.
And everyone with max S. United and Heist rep could easily earn 200+ plat for M.Lockdown. Per week nearly 500 plat. Only you needed are Toroids.
About future event - I guess reason DE is to make opportunity for (new) players who dont have Eidolon arcanes to get each set that those players want (mostly Arcane Energize)
So far there were 3 evenys where you could get arcanes.
Scarlet Spear was in march 2020., Orphyx Venom in january 2021 and last one was 2023/2024.
Its long time between those events, and new playets can't afford to buy arcanes (except those who spend money in game) DE wants to take their plat (money) for FASHION, not arcanes XD
If their reason is to make everyone to get 2 sets, even for new players who have few arcanes, that's a good thing.
I have A. Enegize from Raids, after maxed them from r3 to r5 in Scarlet Spear.
Atm I have 1 extra a. Energize, most of arcanes I GAVE for free to few friends from clan.
I cant use those extra,( like before 2 of same arcanes) , so what's the point of having them sitting in arsenal.
In last 7y I collected over 35-40K plat.
Already have all that can be bought for plat in game Market.
It's more than I can spend in next dozen years ( Exept overpiced rivens).
There is so many other ways to earn plat in game, except selling Eidolon arcanes.
To achieve all you want/ need in WF you need to patient and dedicated.
I agree with them regarding the arcanes, and only the arcanes. I do feel like too much free will is a thing. No point in having a handful of people controlling the marketplace. Anything untradeable shouldn’t have a limit though…
So you agree with me reading imbetween the lines this chamfe is made for plat prices
@@GazTTV correct
wow this is too much grind, so we are limiting how much you can get.
I saw someone with +20 r5 energize... i know they spend to many time on that but is it healthy for the market? if you give everyone the way to farm this much at the end no one gonna want to buy things
it's a tightrope they walk because they are the ones who created the open trade market in game and set the rarity values on things and also trying to prevent players from just killing themselves because they thing they have to adhere to the false doctrine of "if you don't do this you're missing out".
So you agree with it being added for plat prices
It’s crazy that people spend that much irl money for plat just to buy an arcane that isn’t even necessary. The caps annoying but it doesn’t affect me at all
It doesn't Affect me Either.... But I take Issue with DE telling me what I can and Can't Do.
This sounds like a easy fix. Make the first set of each arcane take a normal amount of grind. Then after you finish that first set it allow you to grind another amount but for like 10x the grind.
Good point if they wanted to prevent burnout there were different ways to do it
I really hope its not 2 sets max of any arcane... cuz i have a lot of arcanes i wanna get
Hope you're right too
Likely cause DE is adding legend melee arcanes. Maybe why they dont want burnout?
Crescendo duplicate maybe
@@GazTTV yes cause that would make netracells and DAmidia irrelevant. The game needs a raid with exclusive loot and cosmetics.
If that's The Case then Im Definitely Against the Cap.... Not Because I want to Grind them Myself.... But Because I want to Buy them from the People Who do....
They Are the Reason I could Afford to Trade for *Arcane Energize* in the First Place so if they Can do the Same for The Melee Arcanes then I say let them No Life the Event.
I benefit More when they Do. 👀
@@lookalike4805 that's a fair strategy to use. I grind and trade, so I'm not in favor of the cap either cause I play more on some days than others.
They might cap out the legendary arcanes and keep the others fine ?
They probably would have said that 😊
This is sad. I don't think there are that many people doing this. However, even so, the Arcanes that are most popular in builds are usually readily available through easy grinds (e.g., Molt Augmented). I believe that people generally have different levels of burnout; someone will get tired before another. With Arcanes in general becoming more accessible through Arcane Disolution, there is no point in doing this
I get burnout more quickly playing their "roguelike" modes like the circuit and deep archimedian than outgrinding myself in plague star and relic runs.
Great point!
I actually kind of agree with them here tbh i burned my self out in the last event
That was your choice though now they making the choice for you
"burnout precaution" LOL
I have taken a year or two break after some past events lol.
Yes, it's a thing they should be worried about. Some people do burn out due to non stop playing events.
no offense, but I think that is your fault and not the fault of uncapped arcanes. Although I suppose learning discipline/self-control can be SUPER difficult, especially if you enjoy the game a lot.
OK Gazz, I'll tell you how I feel about those caps. This is fcking authoritarian staff. Why the fuck do devs think they have a right to regulate how much time I spend playing their game?! It's MY fcking time. They make content, and I make a decision how long do I play it. So many positive changes recently, I thought they are on a right track, and now THIS
This is a positive change. Last gargoyle cry event I met a player who obtained over 500 Energize. I guess he feels a massive FOMO effect or he wants as many as possible arcanes.
This is not a healthy behaviour ...
@@raiveresterok That's for him to decide
The authoritarian dictatorship vibe seems to be on the rise with DE lately. Who are They kidding ? They just don't want the hardcore hoarders getting too rich in the game LOL . There will always be people with corporate Stockholm syndrome who will eat this kind of crap for breakfast with a smile . They don't care about the players if they did it wouldn't take 21 copies to max one arcane . This is one of many reasons why the "burnout" excuse doesn't hold water. 🤣
Also what they don't understand, if they won't let people burn out in this game they will find another way. So this won't change anything, it usually worsens it.
It's not just about that it's also helps to stabilize the price of arcanes which would otherwise take alot longer to grind out.
Gas how do you make so much plat bro
Trading
@@GazTTV yeah I mean there’s that and buying it straight up lol. I’ve made close to 20k off rivens but I can’t imagine how you would get 300k, is there a consistent source that made up the bulk of your plat?
Free stuff yeahhhhhh 😊
Energize down price incoming!
And having capped 2 max sucks.
I guess i will be done with event pretty quick
Seems like they want higher arcane prices
The burn out is real and I know it hit me the last time I ran plague star. That said I dont know if capping these runs is the right answer either. For me warframe is a burnout heavy game anyway. I have just accepted that there will be times where I take a full year off the game and that is ok
I don't Think I've Turned From a Grind Actually Pays....
The Times I took Time Off From Warframe was When Grinded For Something that NEVER dropped even Once. That's what Real Burnout is Like.
Atleast for the Event Grinds you actually Have Something to Show For It.
D.e is lying, the changes regarding event arcanes has to do with. Maintaining market prices of arcanes like energize cause its one of the arcanes that newer players will buy 3000 plat from d.e to buy, last event they dropped from 2600 plat to 400 plat and took more then 4 months to rebound, I dont agree with this however. recently d.e made omni fissures which ruined the prices of conjunction arcanes which I had multiple set of
2 full sets per event shop arcane is okay I guess. But 2 full sets for this whole event, would be awful...
Hope its the former 😅
Agreed I'm just going off what she said which could be interpreted either way
Still think this has something about low commitment gameplay that mobile players bring in, no one wants to play 4 hours on the phone.
Might be some part of it
need more forma.
Rip. Doa.
Im fine with the change but Im not a hardcore grinder.
It shouldn't affect most players
I never understood the need to mess with the secondary market like they do. No grinding in a game that grinding is the whole model of the game? Give us ember prime already! Who cares if more ppl get glaive prime! Stop market manipulating!
You think I can get to mr 20 in that time
In a month sure
The non grinders would love the change cause they don't go trough FOMO cause some other players grind the shit out of the event and end up with 10 R5 Energize
Make up your mind DE do you want us to play the game or not? I swear the Devs do something good then shoot themselves in the foot right after and try to "Patch" it by making it slightly not worse instead of reverting there decisions I just want to play the event for a few hours and get rewarded instead of capping out the event in 2-4 hours and never touching it again I guarantee you most people are gonna have it capped the second day its released
I definitely feel like 2 sets is too low, it should be bare minimum 5 sets.
Maybe do a soft limit, the first 5 sets are relatively easy to get, then make it slightly, *SLIGHTLY* more difficult/less efficient, for the people that *really* want to continue to grind, which obviously has the issue of making those that push forward anyway more burnt out, but it at least leaves the door open to grind if you really want to.
I appreciate the attempt to lower burnout because I do get burnt out lately, but limiting an event too much will be a bad idea, instead of burnout people will just runout of content and stop playing until they release something else.
If their goal is to prevent burnout then the people who were going to burn themselves out will just burn out even harder with the slower rate you're suggesting.
@@RapTapTap69 I acknowledged that in the comment, the point was that to get 5 full arcanes you need 105 total arcanes, and that's for one of them, I would guess most people that burn out would quit long before reaching that, I also said *SLIGHTLY*, because people that will grind and not burn out probably won't mind let's say a 10% decrease in whatever currency it drops.
I don't know the exact number
@@someguy6152 yeah but the people who burn out on these events are focused on an amount. They don't really care about the length of the grind.
If the goal is to prevent burnout for the people who farm 30 energizes, then making them spend 10% more time to get those energizes won't prevent their burnout. It'll just mean they're burnt out 10% more
@@RapTapTap69 So grinding for 630 Arcanes won't burn them out, but grinding for the same amount but 10% slower, after the first 105 Arcanes, will...
Also
"They don't really care about the length of the grind."
Doesn't that mean they won't care about a 10% longer grind?
@@someguy6152 the point is there won't be the endless amount for them to strive for so there won't be the "30 max energizes but slower" it'll be "2 max energizes"
When I say they don't care about the time, I mean that's not their concern. They're going to grind to as much as humanly possible during the event if uncapped, burn out, not play for ages or not even return. The "10% slower method" doesn't mean that you've prevented the burn out, it just means "10% less arcanes were purchased before burn out".
DE is right about Players Grinding Too Many Arcanes... They Are Just Wrong about Where...
Forget the Event.... The Event was Fine (Infact I wish it was Easier)... The Reall Offender is *Void Cascade* .
EVERYBODY and their Mother has Been Doing So Much God Damn Void Cascade that it's Running Cavalero's Business Into The Ground.... 😳
Good thing he's dead. Loid is alive and thriving.
The average every day player was maybe able to get rank 3 energize max with some levels of commitment. Gargoyle's cry event was not an easy farm at all
Boooo I want to farm for more than 2, that’s lame, but i hope we can get forma too
Doubt it will have forma too
they are trying to help non high level players from controlling everything.
What happens nerf again huh
you could maybe say that
Sus. They are worried about the Warframe economy. Like they are worried we will play too much? And Steve is agreeing with Reb as if it is Reb's decision. He is the CEO. She is saying what he allows her to say. Of course he agrees. He told her what to say. Disappointed. Just have them tell us they want to protect the Warframe Economy. People can understand that better than they are worried about "burnout."
why sour this with a cap that only applies to like 1% of people anyway?
ya overall updates are good in warframe lately (hated kahl and duviri)
but they've been doing this for the past 2 years or so tho... nothing farmable, nothing tradable, nothing grindable
everything capped and time-gated
fucking tired if it
EDIT: idk, maybe over-reacted, but still seems lame
burnout is MY responsibility, NObody else's
that's insane