Man, I can't thank you enough for this excellent and informative video. I'm getting my upright air compressor set up for painting a utility trailer and I live down on the MS gulf coast. You've really given me a good starting point on cleaning up my air.
Great video - explaining the why an item is needed, then excellent hands on demonstration how to install, how to use, and after use maintenance. I had no idea prior to this video of why I need to have these on my system. Thanks!
A trick thought to me by a plumber was tape first then a little liquid sealant. I have some high pressure systems and you might have to take apart a lot of fittings to get to one leaking. Since I started doing his technique I’ve never had a leak.
Great vid! I just used mine today for the first time. I use to have just the usual regulator with the water separator in one unit. Today I put in a larger auto emptying water separator, then a new regulator/separator and then the dual oil and desiccant filter same as you. After spraying four stripped and sand blasted skid steer rims I see the beads are changing colour. It doesn’t take long for them to start changing. Maybe an hour to an hour and a half. Definitely way less vapour at the hose end. I’m looking into making one of those zig zag type copper tube wall mounted air dryers. Apparently they work really well. Always something to build! 😁 All the best, Cheers from Australia 🍻
@@CreativityUnleashed That’s a great idea!!! Thanks for the tip. Even perhaps ice in the bucket depending on the ambient temps. The way I understand it is the water separator will remove condensed water and the desiccant will remove the water vapour. So if you are removing heat, you condense more water effectively removing more moisture before it gets to the final desiccant as vapour. I have liked and subscribed 👍 That really is a great tip! I really appreciate it! I see experiments in my future 😁 Cheers 👍🍻
Your video was well thought out and well explained/executed. I just started trying to spray with an hvlp sprayer and have had a months worth of troubleshooting. My last mini in-line filter was choking my system brand new out of the box so it took me awhile to realize what was wrong. So I removed it and it solved my pressure problem but now I have awful craters that appear (maybe fisheyes) in my paint film. So I assume it’s because of not running a filter. So I bought harbor freight’s newer version by Merlin and of course the inlet and outlet are much larger than any 3/8 hose fitting which I don’t understand because this is a 3/8 filter combo. I suppose I have to go and pick out some reducer connectors or something in the morning. Has anyone else experienced this? Just seems really weird to me. Anyway I was just digging around for some information and came across your video and although it didn’t answer what I was searching for, it was a great informative explanation and demonstration of the benefits of a filter setup.
Dude that was a great video, i got all the stuff and am just about to hook it up im glad i stumbled upon this video with a lot of great info and not a lot of BS! keep it up you got a sub
I like your video. And how you reused the beads. But I do have one question if you can help. At the very end of the hose have you measured how much water that is still coming out. That would be kind of interesting. I'm planning on doing the same thing here soon within a year. My home is in South carolina. But I'm working in Florida. For about another year and then I'm done. So I'm buying everything I need to set up.
Is the only water filter the desiccant or do the other traps also get the majority of the water out before the desiccant trap sees it. I have a 60gallon air compressor and it produces a lot of condensate. It would fill those traps pretty quick. I can drain the tank and still get visible water vapor coming out of the hose.
@@perry9492 of course the refrigerant air dryer is the best option and that’s what I use now. Specially if you use a lot of air, but yes, there is the first water, moisture separator and that removes the majority, but it doesn’t do it. Well if the air is really hot. and the desiccant is only to get rid of the last little bit of moisture.
there are a lot of variables but for example plasma cutting or spray painting on a hot day with high humidity as little as an hour of consistent airflow you may need to replace the desiccant and dry it out. if you're using a high volume of air consistently you probably would want a refrigerant air dryer. I have a video on refrigerant air drying.
@@CreativityUnleashed hello I use this exclusively almost for paint protection film installs, airing up my keg maybe once a day or so. Typically it’s 30 percent humidity and about 70-80 in my shop. So basically probably typically less than a minute per day or so in a climate controlled environment
Those desiccant dryers don't do shiet unless you're using some $100/oz stuff. It takes days for that stuff to absorb moisture The higher pressure speed things up a bit, but the higher temperatures slow it right down to a stop. It's basically just a filter that some water gets stuck in. It's not absorbing it from the air. Its either just straight water that it soaked up or moisture from the atmosphere. That stuff works in days not seconds. Also you can make a way better one for half the price with 20 feet of pipe and a few gallon jugs of dessicant. 20 feet of tubing and 10lbs of dessicant now that might actually work in seconds.
You're definitely right this one is only good for a very small amount of air I now have a refrigerant air dryer and that works way way better but in my opinion it still is better using it then not using it makes a big difference but I think making a high-volume desiccant dryer could be a good option as well !
If you are trying to use it for more than an hour at a time you may want to just make on on the RUclips channel Hannah's bug she goes into detail of making one that can do a lot higher volumes of air. I finally got my refrigerant Air dryer working but haven't had the time to get a video out on it yet but that also works amazingly well just depends your application and needs
Any idea if sputtering with a plasma cutter would be caused by moisture in the air? I was told this might be the issue or the gap inside of the cutter.
Well I can't say for sure what is happening with your machine. but I have definitely have had problems with sputtering plasma arc because of moster in the air one of the ways to know is how long your consumables are lasting and are they turning black or burnt looking really fast can be a sign of unclean moist air
@@CreativityUnleashed Gotcha. Thanks for the info. I also am stupid, hadn’t drained my compressor tank, had lots of water. I just tried it again with lower psi and it worked better. I may try what you did as well.
If you have a local Harbor Freight you can go to the store or purchase online. www.harborfreight.com/38-in-desiccant-dryer-with-oil-removal-filter-69923.html
I don't understand why if the moisture filter is trapping the water first, what's making the blue balls turn pink. Is the moisture filter a scam type of product?
The first filter works but does not separate all of the water the desiccant filters are better at catching the last bit of moisture remaining but if you were to just use desiccant it would get saturated very rapidly and stop helping
I noticed your water separator was after the regulator, From watching many videos I thought all that was to come prior to the regulator, or does it not matter
Hey Darren, loved the video. Any chance I can get your email? We offer an alternative to Dessicant Beads to remove more moisture and would love to send you some information.
That's amazingly put depending on your airflow you might get 30 minutes or an hour that's why I recommend a compressed refrigerant air dryer which I have made a video about.
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Man, I can't thank you enough for this excellent and informative video. I'm getting my upright air compressor set up for painting a utility trailer and I live down on the MS gulf coast. You've really given me a good starting point on cleaning up my air.
I am now using a refrigerant air dryer in combination with this and that is even way better !!! but I am glad you found this helpful
Great video - explaining the why an item is needed, then excellent hands on demonstration how to install, how to use, and after use maintenance. I had no idea prior to this video of why I need to have these on my system. Thanks!
A trick thought to me by a plumber was tape first then a little liquid sealant. I have some high pressure systems and you might have to take apart a lot of fittings to get to one leaking. Since I started doing his technique I’ve never had a leak.
Man, thank you for the video. I am glad that I found your channel. I am killing consumables. thank you
I am now using a refrigerant air dryer as well and that's made it even better!! thanks
Thanks for this video. I'm getting close to start painting a restoration project and i need to add a dryer to my set up.
Great vid!
I just used mine today for the first time. I use to have just the usual regulator with the water separator in one unit. Today I put in a larger auto emptying water separator, then a new regulator/separator and then the dual oil and desiccant filter same as you. After spraying four stripped and sand blasted skid steer rims I see the beads are changing colour. It doesn’t take long for them to start changing. Maybe an hour to an hour and a half. Definitely way less vapour at the hose end.
I’m looking into making one of those zig zag type copper tube wall mounted air dryers. Apparently they work really well. Always something to build! 😁
All the best,
Cheers from Australia 🍻
I have found even putting a 50 foot or 100 foot hose in a bucket of cold water before it goes through the water separator will greatly help
@@CreativityUnleashed
That’s a great idea!!! Thanks for the tip. Even perhaps ice in the bucket depending on the ambient temps. The way I understand it is the water separator will remove condensed water and the desiccant will remove the water vapour. So if you are removing heat, you condense more water effectively removing more moisture before it gets to the final desiccant as vapour.
I have liked and subscribed 👍
That really is a great tip! I really appreciate it! I see experiments in my future 😁
Cheers 👍🍻
@@nigelw598 Yes ice works well I now have a refrigerant air dryer and that has been amazing I am working on a video about that
@@CreativityUnleashed
Cool! I can see this is going to get expensive. 🤦♂️
I’ll be here watching 😁👍🍻
Your video was well thought out and well explained/executed. I just started trying to spray with an hvlp sprayer and have had a months worth of troubleshooting. My last mini in-line filter was choking my system brand new out of the box so it took me awhile to realize what was wrong. So I removed it and it solved my pressure problem but now I have awful craters that appear (maybe fisheyes) in my paint film. So I assume it’s because of not running a filter. So I bought harbor freight’s newer version by Merlin and of course the inlet and outlet are much larger than any 3/8 hose fitting which I don’t understand because this is a 3/8 filter combo. I suppose I have to go and pick out some reducer connectors or something in the morning. Has anyone else experienced this? Just seems really weird to me. Anyway I was just digging around for some information and came across your video and although it didn’t answer what I was searching for, it was a great informative explanation and demonstration of the benefits of a filter setup.
Dude that was a great video, i got all the stuff and am just about to hook it up im glad i stumbled upon this video with a lot of great info and not a lot of BS! keep it up you got a sub
thanks I am so glad you found it helpful!!! best of luck to you!!!
WHAHOOOOO Man, you really love what you do, very helpfull axplanation.
thanks!!
Great video Thank you for sharing. Is there an amount of feet of Hose that I need from the compressor before the air filtration system?
i didnt know that i can reused the bubbles ! nice thanks
Good video . . . I just got into plasma cutting and learned a lot.....thanks!
Great video, thank you sir!
I like your video. And how you reused the beads. But I do have one question if you can help. At the very end of the hose have you measured how much water that is still coming out. That would be kind of interesting. I'm planning on doing the same thing here soon within a year. My home is in South carolina. But I'm working in Florida. For about another year and then I'm done. So I'm buying everything I need to set up.
I need to get something to Measure the moisture with
I am now mainly using the refrigerant air dryer that's a lot les work and does a much better job
WE SHOUD USE AIR FILTER FOR DRY AIR COMPERSER ALSO ?
You really helped me out, thanks
@@jamiltinajero1870 thanks
Thank you for the video.
Is the only water filter the desiccant or do the other traps also get the majority of the water out before the desiccant trap sees it. I have a 60gallon air compressor and it produces a lot of condensate. It would fill those traps pretty quick. I can drain the tank and still get visible water vapor coming out of the hose.
@@perry9492 of course the refrigerant air dryer is the best option and that’s what I use now. Specially if you use a lot of air, but yes, there is the first water, moisture separator and that removes the majority, but it doesn’t do it. Well if the air is really hot. and the desiccant is only to get rid of the last little bit of moisture.
Big help! Thanks man!
Very informative . Thanks!!!
How often do you feel like you end up changing or drying the desiccant
there are a lot of variables but for example plasma cutting or spray painting on a hot day with high humidity as little as an hour of consistent airflow you may need to replace the desiccant and dry it out.
if you're using a high volume of air consistently you probably would want a refrigerant air dryer.
I have a video on refrigerant air drying.
@@CreativityUnleashed hello I use this exclusively almost for paint protection film installs, airing up my keg maybe once a day or so.
Typically it’s 30 percent humidity and about 70-80 in my shop.
So basically probably typically less than a minute per day or so in a climate controlled environment
Those desiccant dryers don't do shiet unless you're using some $100/oz stuff. It takes days for that stuff to absorb moisture The higher pressure speed things up a bit, but the higher temperatures slow it right down to a stop. It's basically just a filter that some water gets stuck in. It's not absorbing it from the air. Its either just straight water that it soaked up or moisture from the atmosphere. That stuff works in days not seconds. Also you can make a way better one for half the price with 20 feet of pipe and a few gallon jugs of dessicant. 20 feet of tubing and 10lbs of dessicant now that might actually work in seconds.
You're definitely right this one is only good for a very small amount of air I now have a refrigerant air dryer and that works way way better
but in my opinion it still is better using it then not using it makes a big difference
but I think making a high-volume desiccant dryer could be a good option as well !
Nice video and good tips
Thank you for this!
That’s awesome cheers dude 🔥🤘😎👍🔥
thanks
The desicant has residue on it it can get buy the filter
Thanks man for your video really helped me.
So I should definitely have the one filter that collects water AND the desiccant filter? I live in Florida.
If you are trying to use it for more than an hour at a time you may want to just make on on the RUclips channel Hannah's bug she goes into detail of making one that can do a lot higher volumes of air.
I finally got my refrigerant Air dryer working but haven't had the time to get a video out on it yet but that also works amazingly well just depends your application and needs
ruclips.net/video/X7B5imLeYv0/видео.html
Great video thanks for making it.
Where's the link for this product, how much did it cost?
You can get this at harbor freight
Thanks for sharing. That’s cool but a little too much hassle to me. Are there less hassle options?
Refrigerant air dryers for industrial applications but I don't know of any other air filters that are convenient and small and economical
Any idea if sputtering with a plasma cutter would be caused by moisture in the air? I was told this might be the issue or the gap inside of the cutter.
Well I can't say for sure what is happening with your machine. but I have definitely have had problems with sputtering plasma arc because of moster in the air one of the ways to know is how long your consumables are lasting and are they turning black or burnt looking really fast can be a sign of unclean moist air
@@CreativityUnleashed Gotcha. Thanks for the info. I also am stupid, hadn’t drained my compressor tank, had lots of water. I just tried it again with lower psi and it worked better. I may try what you did as well.
Yep, u have to flush the tank every week.. It will oxidize soon and you will have problems
The moisture and debris in the unfiltered air cause the consumables in the cutter to go bad quicker, so the answer is yes to both I bet.
What is the blue Can and how do you maintain it? Thanks for the tips.
those basically absorb the water and give u a dry air
what happens if you use oilless air compressor?
Great question I would assume it wouldn't make much difference and I'm quite sure it wouldn't hurt anything having an oil separator
Very helpful. Thank you.
What about the filter in the middle how did you clean that?
I haven't needed to so I am not sure.
Very helpful.. Thank you
Can the regulator/filter be used as the main regulator?
I often use it as a main regulator for a air compressor that doesn't have a regulator and I've never had any issues !!
Thank you sir!
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Any idea where to get replacement dessicant?
I think I seen it on Amazon when I checked.
great
Where from I purchase the seperator
If you have a local Harbor Freight you can go to the store or purchase online.
www.harborfreight.com/38-in-desiccant-dryer-with-oil-removal-filter-69923.html
I don't understand why if the moisture filter is trapping the water first, what's making the blue balls turn pink. Is the moisture filter a scam type of product?
The first filter works but does not separate all of the water the desiccant filters are better at catching the last bit of moisture remaining but if you were to just use desiccant it would get saturated very rapidly and stop helping
Hi Money,
The water separator removes the water liquid. The desiccant absorbs the water vapour.
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I noticed your water separator was after the regulator, From watching many videos I thought all that was to come prior to the regulator, or does it not matter
I don't think it matters to much
Helpful!!!!!!
Thanks, where did you buy all of the stuff?
Great!
Best
Hey Darren, loved the video. Any chance I can get your email? We offer an alternative to Dessicant Beads to remove more moisture and would love to send you some information.
Your beating a dead horse
If I use this, I will need to bake blue balls every 10 minutes.
That's amazingly put depending on your airflow you might get 30 minutes or an hour that's why I recommend a compressed refrigerant air dryer which I have made a video about.
Those harbor freight filters are trash they dont do much I've used them
They are very cheaply made and sell them for a lot of money.
I have found almost the same things from some of the Chinese sites for almost nothing
Trash compressor its gone pumping oil
Put some bass in yo voice 👦