What you could potentially do is have a mothership that can come rescue you. Imagine being able to venture out and explore on a bike or small rover, but when you are in danger you can have a rescue craft come to your location and pick you up.
I used to do this sort of thing all the time with just auto-pilot. And an entire galaxy of waypoints. It was a NIGHTMARE! It's SO much simpler now. Go there. Do this. Come back, or do the other thing. Gotta love it.
@@LastStandGamers What you demonstrated and explained is awesome! Got a question: Is there not a limit for this system. Had not played Space Engineers for years now and only slightly recall that there was a range limit for signals. Am I wrong about that memory or did it change maybe? My priority for sanity, social life and better timemanagement had not allowed me to come back to it. And the state of the game back then had not been the best. But what I saw here might be interesting to think about it after so many years.
@@Chareidos SE's game loops have probably not changed much since you played, but they have definitely improved in execution tremendously in the past few years. Clang is still our lord, but he is slightly less obvious and more consistent now. Collisions, combat, etc are pretty fun now. And the new AI blocks raise the floor for making basic script type behaviors into modular building blocks without need for scripting (and based on Keen's PCU valuation, these new blocks seem to be moderately light on performance). There is still a range for signals, but beacons have a tremendous range. Don't recall for small grid, but large grid is max 200 km. Antenna max range is less, but not used for this application.
@@LastStandGamers Could you use this as a delivery drone in a mining colony? Your cargo is full = fly to main base Your cargo empty = fly to mining colony
I could imagine a setup where a bomber comes flying overhead, dropping bombs. Just place the beacon close to target and orientated the right way, then watch as a fleet of bombers come flying over and dropping their load on target
Best thing would be a *Resupply Missile.* Like a standard GPS missile, but at the end activates a *parachute,* and gently lands at target point. US Space Force actually considered this idea using the Starship-Super Heavy to offload cargo from orbit. Coincidentally, tomorrow on Thursday 20.4.2023 is first ever Starship *orbital flight test,* SpaceX will livestream the whole thing on their channel: ruclips.net/video/-1wcilQ58hI/видео.html (assuming they don't cancel)
I could see using this system on a flying vehicle transport that would carry like 4 AI tanks, kind of like an air drop ground force of tanks or rovers. Imagine having like 3 or 4 of these kinds of drop ships, being able to remotely call in 16 Ai tanks to do you bidding! This is a wonderful update. Thanks Aaron for the videos!
Aaron could you deploy an automated drone printer and have an ATC that you could make requests for specific supplies from and then have it task any free drones to accomplish your request from a specific grid and bring it? Think a mix between the movie Obliviion and the game Factorio drones. They could have face blocks and names so it would always be a fun surprise to see who brings your requested item and the "mood" they are in!
@@LastStandGamers Every team needs to find a giant resource pit that is preselected. Then create outpost to mine and ship to a chosen gateway to another "star system". Like a company come to exploit resources. Naturally there will be some evil powerful monster that interferes with every company's attempt to please their corporate overlords. (Probably you)
I don't mind flying from place to place, but can always only be in one ship at a time. being able to pick up from multiple resource asteroids simultaneously would speed things up considerably.
I can see this as a way for auto recover of field assets. Lets say you got an orbital deployment and recover system with a tank. You can send the ODRS with the tank to an area to drop the tank and RTB. After the mission is complete, and the tank is recoverable, you can press a button and send the ODRS to automatically collect the tanks.
I want you to build a beacon on a short range missile and fire it into the enemy base. Then launch an ICBM on the beacon from the other side of the planet.
As we can see, the enemy base is now exposed. The next move is obvious. We can launch an RT-2PM2 Topol-M cold-launched three-stage solid-propellant silo-based intercontinental ballistic missile to attack the enemy base
It would be interesting if you had a small drone attached to the vehicle that basically acts like a messenger, and when you turn it on, it makes its way back to base and connects to the base and sends the command to launch the supply ship.
@@LastStandGamers we have to use our imagination sometimes and while i felt this way too during the first 1/2 of the video it was easy to grasp how miniscule of a detail it is when showing off how efficiently you pulled off this genesis of all the cool ideas in the comments
If the rotors are an issue, I imagine if you have them rotating opposite of each other like the real thing did, one spinning one way, the other the other way, it would probably help a lot with the AI's issues, I don't know for sure if it would work, but it might?
Loved the video @LastStandGamers! Can't wait for the next video man! There's only a few other Helicopters that I can see this being done with. The Westland Lynx AH.7 and AH.9 Multipurpose Military Helicopter, the Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion Heavy Lift Cargo Helicopter and the Sikorsky UH-60M Black Hawk Medium Lift Utility Helicopter. Imagine seeing these Helicopters Moving in with Cargo and Reinforcements. The British using the Lynx's alongside the Chinooks they Purchased from the U.S. While the U.S. uses the Chinooks, Super Stallion's and Black Hawks as follows..... British Army: 41 Chinook HC1 (CH-47C), 32 Chinook HC2 and 6 HC2A (CH-47D), 119 Lynx AH.7 and 24 AH.9 U.S. Army: 233 CH-47C, 427 CH-47D, 234 CH-53E, unknown number of the 5,000 Black Hawks built as of January 2023 as the UH-60M. These are the Historical Limits of the Helicopters in Britain and American Inventories, but the Thought of Having Helicopters Moving Cargo and Possibly even Troops and Equipment around is very Interesting. I wonder if something similar can be done with Tanks and other Ground Vehicles? Let me know what you think about this and I'll catch you in your next video man!
A way I do airdrops of supplies to have a huge aircraft with a large bay like the Atlas on the workshop and just yeet them out the back on chutes, the UNSC supply drop thingie I found worked great
They need to add toggles to a few windows like say you want it to slow down of speed up at point or slow down at one (Sam or docking for example) also I haven't been on since the update but it'd be nice if the event controller block read the ore detectors n could signal to the ai ore deposits. This could aid in mining or scouting mining locations or it could be used to target hydrogen systems for a homing middle of sorts. That's if you can configure ore detectors to read cargo containers
Does this still work if the ship is out of range of the beacon? That would be cool, otherwise it will be limited to beacon/signal range which may add an extra level of engineering complexity
I cannot take seriously a helicopter without rotors that… y’know… rotate. These kinds of systems would be kinda cool though in a world with huge distances between bases. Maybe with little to no ore anywhere other than at the bases to make sure you can’t just build a bunch of mining and refinery rovers/ships. Actually enforce good logistics being a deciding factor in who wins.
Gday mate. Love the simple way you describe these things! I was wondering if you could setup something that has the ability to engage or disengage more downward thrust depending on the weight of the transporter. I am trying this atm with a small hydro machine that has about eight small thrusters under it. With no load it would fly on 2 thrusters but if I load it with ore for example it would turn on more additional thrusters till lift is attained. The idea it not really for the cargo change but I want this one machine to be easily with more turrets and ammo without needing to manually add more thrust. I have a really cool little example of the vehicle if you need an example. I have also purposely made it over complicated so that it needs to use the ai bits to make it flyabld
That's great. Beautiful helicopter. Any plans to setup an AI mining rig? Like a flying cargo vessel that picks up ice from a drill rig in the mountains and then loops automatically?
Always getting the error that no moving block is installed in order to get the AI running... What did I do wrong? Any advise? Any kind of thrusters, gyros etc. are installed...
![Megan Thee Stallion - Roc Steady (feat. Flo Milli) [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HozPPyqW0dY/mqdefault.jpg)
What you could potentially do is have a mothership that can come rescue you. Imagine being able to venture out and explore on a bike or small rover, but when you are in danger you can have a rescue craft come to your location and pick you up.
YES YES YES
SG:U like drone mothership.
I used to do this sort of thing all the time with just auto-pilot.
And an entire galaxy of waypoints. It was a NIGHTMARE! It's SO much simpler now. Go there. Do this. Come back, or do the other thing. Gotta love it.
That's madness I don't think I would have the patience for that.
@@LastStandGamers What you demonstrated and explained is awesome! Got a question: Is there not a limit for this system. Had not played Space Engineers for years now and only slightly recall that there was a range limit for signals. Am I wrong about that memory or did it change maybe?
My priority for sanity, social life and better timemanagement had not allowed me to come back to it. And the state of the game back then had not been the best. But what I saw here might be interesting to think about it after so many years.
@@Chareidos SE's game loops have probably not changed much since you played, but they have definitely improved in execution tremendously in the past few years. Clang is still our lord, but he is slightly less obvious and more consistent now. Collisions, combat, etc are pretty fun now. And the new AI blocks raise the floor for making basic script type behaviors into modular building blocks without need for scripting (and based on Keen's PCU valuation, these new blocks seem to be moderately light on performance).
There is still a range for signals, but beacons have a tremendous range. Don't recall for small grid, but large grid is max 200 km. Antenna max range is less, but not used for this application.
@@LastStandGamers Could you use this as a delivery drone in a mining colony?
Your cargo is full = fly to main base
Your cargo empty = fly to mining colony
I could imagine a setup where a bomber comes flying overhead, dropping bombs. Just place the beacon close to target and orientated the right way, then watch as a fleet of bombers come flying over and dropping their load on target
Expansion on this idea: the drop beacons for targeting from a bomber
Your idea reminds of Command & Conquer. 😛
@@cmqptkloacjko Sounds like an idea.
Turning Space Engineers into an RTS. . . Hmm. . . I'm so gonna try this on console
@@cmqptkloacjko Extending on your Idea: Why not have the beacon on a remote-controlled drone?
Best thing would be a *Resupply Missile.*
Like a standard GPS missile, but at the end activates a *parachute,* and gently lands at target point.
US Space Force actually considered this idea using the Starship-Super Heavy to offload cargo from orbit.
Coincidentally, tomorrow on Thursday 20.4.2023 is first ever Starship *orbital flight test,*
SpaceX will livestream the whole thing on their channel: ruclips.net/video/-1wcilQ58hI/видео.html (assuming they don't cancel)
So this aged well
That chinhook: FUCK PHYSICS (*proceeds to ignor the rotors and fly's anyway*)
Its like when the frames match up with the rotor speed ;]
@@LastStandGamers LOL
I could see using this system on a flying vehicle transport that would carry like 4 AI tanks, kind of like an air drop ground force of tanks or rovers. Imagine having like 3 or 4 of these kinds of drop ships, being able to remotely call in 16 Ai tanks to do you bidding! This is a wonderful update.
Thanks Aaron for the videos!
Aaron could you deploy an automated drone printer and have an ATC that you could make requests for specific supplies from and then have it task any free drones to accomplish your request from a specific grid and bring it? Think a mix between the movie Obliviion and the game Factorio drones. They could have face blocks and names so it would always be a fun surprise to see who brings your requested item and the "mood" they are in!
This is space engineers at its finest, really cool to watch. I'm looking foward to tge scenarios that can be made now!
With this you can make scenario without players and watch your creations come to life. What sort of scenarios would you like to see ?
@@LastStandGamers Every team needs to find a giant resource pit that is preselected. Then create outpost to mine and ship to a chosen gateway to another "star system". Like a company come to exploit resources. Naturally there will be some evil powerful monster that interferes with every company's attempt to please their corporate overlords. (Probably you)
I don't mind flying from place to place, but can always only be in one ship at a time. being able to pick up from multiple resource asteroids simultaneously would speed things up considerably.
I can see this as a way for auto recover of field assets.
Lets say you got an orbital deployment and recover system with a tank.
You can send the ODRS with the tank to an area to drop the tank and RTB. After the mission is complete, and the tank is recoverable, you can press a button and send the ODRS to automatically collect the tanks.
I want you to build a beacon on a short range missile and fire it into the enemy base. Then launch an ICBM on the beacon from the other side of the planet.
But how big should the ICBM ?
@@LastStandGamers yes :)
As we can see, the enemy base is now exposed. The next move is obvious. We can launch an RT-2PM2 Topol-M cold-launched three-stage solid-propellant silo-based intercontinental ballistic missile to attack the enemy base
🤩 amazing, absolutely ridiculously cool!
Cheers what would you like me to try next ?
One of those buildings on your base had a voice ringing in my head, saying:"Bombardment", good old C'n'C generals
loving the new format of your videos
you could make the blades spin by making them blueprints and putting a proyector in a rotor.
I call shenanigans - no AI could ever be as insane as a Chinook driver!
LoL, the helicopter's rotating wings are in sync with the camera shutter.
It would be interesting if you had a small drone attached to the vehicle that basically acts like a messenger, and when you turn it on, it makes its way back to base and connects to the base and sends the command to launch the supply ship.
Very nice. Man with this brand new Update to space engineers, it's going to be Interesting.
Not gonna lie, those not rotating rotors are superbly immersion breaking.
I agree but sadly the AI didn't like them being on.
@@LastStandGamers we have to use our imagination sometimes and while i felt this way too during the first 1/2 of the video it was easy to grasp how miniscule of a detail it is when showing off how efficiently you pulled off this genesis of all the cool ideas in the comments
this is what I've always wanted in space engineers 😢, im so happy 🤣
since you can't make the rotors spin maybe you could use projectors to make a disc, to atleast add some kind of spin / blur effect.
Very cool great video 😀
If the rotors are an issue, I imagine if you have them rotating opposite of each other like the real thing did, one spinning one way, the other the other way, it would probably help a lot with the AI's issues, I don't know for sure if it would work, but it might?
Loved the video @LastStandGamers! Can't wait for the next video man! There's only a few other Helicopters that I can see this being done with. The Westland Lynx AH.7 and AH.9 Multipurpose Military Helicopter, the Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion Heavy Lift Cargo Helicopter and the Sikorsky UH-60M Black Hawk Medium Lift Utility Helicopter. Imagine seeing these Helicopters Moving in with Cargo and Reinforcements. The British using the Lynx's alongside the Chinooks they Purchased from the U.S. While the U.S. uses the Chinooks, Super Stallion's and Black Hawks as follows.....
British Army: 41 Chinook HC1 (CH-47C), 32 Chinook HC2 and 6 HC2A (CH-47D), 119 Lynx AH.7 and 24 AH.9
U.S. Army: 233 CH-47C, 427 CH-47D, 234 CH-53E, unknown number of the 5,000 Black Hawks built as of January 2023 as the UH-60M.
These are the Historical Limits of the Helicopters in Britain and American Inventories, but the Thought of Having Helicopters Moving Cargo and Possibly even Troops and Equipment around is very Interesting.
I wonder if something similar can be done with Tanks and other Ground Vehicles?
Let me know what you think about this and I'll catch you in your next video man!
A way I do airdrops of supplies to have a huge aircraft with a large bay like the Atlas on the workshop and just yeet them out the back on chutes, the UNSC supply drop thingie I found worked great
They need to add toggles to a few windows like say you want it to slow down of speed up at point or slow down at one (Sam or docking for example) also I haven't been on since the update but it'd be nice if the event controller block read the ore detectors n could signal to the ai ore deposits. This could aid in mining or scouting mining locations or it could be used to target hydrogen systems for a homing middle of sorts. That's if you can configure ore detectors to read cargo containers
The Heli always know where a beacon is at all times. Heli knows it bacause it knows where it isnt.
Does this still work if the ship is out of range of the beacon? That would be cool, otherwise it will be limited to beacon/signal range which may add an extra level of engineering complexity
Beacons have a crazy transmission range.
In the event that you're out of beacon range, a laser antenna could be used
I haven't had an issue where I have ended up out of range for longer range flights I flick collision avoidance on.
I see the C&C generals base and now I want to recreate it inside of SE
Me and the LSG team love C&C builds we have a full GLA and USA bases
@@LastStandGamers do those happen to be on the workshop?
Need a resupply, general?
Who's signing for this?
This supply pile is done.
Imagine trying to get a supply to your artillery thing to bomb a base and then you watch 13 rail gun drones shoot your supply
to drop defense pods
I wonder if you can actually make a Command and Conquer minigame in Space engineers with these new AI blocks
I NEED these blueprints for these helicopters.
The belong to one of our community members a fantastic build giving tot he admins for the plane server.
Sorry but, rotating blades needs to be a must... lol (common Keen - cable for things wouldn't go a miss either, a moders dream)
We are going to have so much fun with this, quality of life upgrade or what guys?
could you use this system to precisely position the truck when it comes time to pick up the beacon?
I cannot take seriously a helicopter without rotors that… y’know… rotate.
These kinds of systems would be kinda cool though in a world with huge distances between bases. Maybe with little to no ore anywhere other than at the bases to make sure you can’t just build a bunch of mining and refinery rovers/ships. Actually enforce good logistics being a deciding factor in who wins.
the blades rotating would be purely cosmetic, so how could it affect the AI?
I wonder if you could use a beacon to send a swarm of drones to attack a base…
That's a great idea
@@LastStandGamers thanks!
Can we have the blueprint for the Chinook (without the Ai blocks of course)
those helicopters belong to Columbia Helicopters (same paint and everything lol)
to be more reliable just have it descend until it can attach
That beacon reminds me of the Dorothys from Twister
Haha it kind of does
Gday mate. Love the simple way you describe these things! I was wondering if you could setup something that has the ability to engage or disengage more downward thrust depending on the weight of the transporter. I am trying this atm with a small hydro machine that has about eight small thrusters under it. With no load it would fly on 2 thrusters but if I load it with ore for example it would turn on more additional thrusters till lift is attained. The idea it not really for the cargo change but I want this one machine to be easily with more turrets and ammo without needing to manually add more thrust. I have a really cool little example of the vehicle if you need an example. I have also purposely made it over complicated so that it needs to use the ai bits to make it flyabld
You can do that with event controllers
The AI blocks seem to retain the beacon info/position after turning the beacon off.
do you think we can make ships "orbit" now
I want to make drop pods now. Deploy an army from space. Have ai escort fighters and deploy automated tanks.
Sounds like an epic plan count me in.
Is it too hard to make helicopter blades actually rotate ?
so those rotors didnt spin when it took off... whats up there?
I'm imagining a mining ship that has detachable cargo pods that'll fly back to base and empty out, then fly back to reattach to the mining vehicle.
That's great. Beautiful helicopter.
Any plans to setup an AI mining rig? Like a flying cargo vessel that picks up ice from a drill rig in the mountains and then loops automatically?
I have been playing with a beacon miner that heads to the beacon mines the ore and returns.
@@LastStandGamers Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Been working on some routines, but I'm much slower at it than you lol
space station bringing a base or small dropship?
Hey, now is it possible to make a ship recall system like no man's sky? I'm getting ideas haha
That's what its all about getting fun ideas and trying build them out. Endless fun.
Can the beacon system work over the curvature of a planet/moon I wonder?
It can just activate the collision avoidance for that section of the journey and use a connecter rather than a landing gear.
Tony Stark, eat your heart out
Can you do fighters leaving and returning from a hangar
It's on the list of bits to cover didn't want to do to fighter videos in a row on fighters.
During the beta I had an idea similar to this; but instead of cargo it calls in a strike fighter
That's a cool idea have you tested it ?
@@LastStandGamers I am yet to test it, as I am working on other projects atm
tactical support fighter
@@carteradams43 Close Air Support!
Ai going make ever so different
Could this system be repurposed for some sort of airstrike? Drop a beacon pod and have a ship fly in and drop a bomb or start firing at the location.
It defiantly could what sort of strike should we try call in ?
The helicopter would had looked more cooler if the blades was rotating
got distracted by the rotor blades not spinning. didn't hear a word u said
Always getting the error that no moving block is installed in order to get the AI running... What did I do wrong? Any advise? Any kind of thrusters, gyros etc. are installed...
Do you have the flying movement block on the ship as well?
@@spence1081 lol, that was the problem, thx a lot!
Glad the community help to resolve it.
i need the blueprint for the beacon
it upsets me those rotors aren't spinning.
Supply drop inbound
come on man.... Such a waste not making the rotors spin....
Comment
It's a surprisingly simple system to do what it does. Leave it to LSG to create this system. Great job, as always. 😁 🤍
Cheers trying to keep them as simple as possible as with more parts there's a higher chance of things going wrong and its harder to follow along.