Kate Bush - Army Dreamers - Music Video REACTION!!!
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- Here is my reaction to the music video for ARMY DREAMERS by Kate Bush. Leave any recommendations below! Thanks. Make sure to LIKE, comment, and SUBSCRIBE for more reactions!
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BFPO - British Forces Post Office. Never looked this up before. There meaning is, he came back as a package, not as a traveller. Aka. in a casket.
😢thanks
the BFPO are also responsible for returning the dead from british war zones as well as letters and such!
No shit Sherlock
@@PUBG__Bouncy No shit indeed. It may be obvious to people from the UK, but me not being a native, how would I know? It is not like we googled a lot in the 80's.
@@Accoloniandon’t worry, I’m from Britain and still had to give it a Google. Dude just has an attitude
One of the best anti-war songs ever written, coming from a mother's perspective is a gut punch.
I love how poetic and “lullaby” is is, like a mother to her sons and husband
BFPO British Forces Posted Overseas. In the 60s the BBC had a programme on the radio called two way family favourites. It was families here to their love ones posted overseas and vice versa. Mainly Germany from memory, although places like Singapore and other BF overseas. KB would know that, she's only a couple of years younger than me and the war was still casting a big shadow.
I love her lyrics, especially with the lines,
"Give the kid the pick of pips
And give him all your stripes and ribbons
Now he's sitting in his hole
He might as well have buttons and bows"
It shows the kind of irony that these soldiers will be awarded honorable medals in combat and be decorated with them in their burials yet even with the most prestigious award they would mean nothing to the soldier because they're dead. Hence comparing them to "buttons and bows" because that's all they're worth anymore.
Another detail to add, in the beginning where the two soldiers come into frame, the one on the left blinks repeatedly while the one on the right doesn't. A great detail representing the different kinds of shellshock as well as hers when she only blinks at the cocking of a gun.
the kid died during military manœuvres, during a training. Just sayin'.
Nice reaction! The beauty of Kate Bush is you never know what to expect, she is so creative and imaginitive, always following her own path irrespective of current trends.
Totally
Another Kate Bush masterpiece relevant to today’s increasing talk about the threat of nuclear war is her 1980 hit ‘Breathing’. Highly recommended.
BFPO = British Forces Post Office.
The KT symbol is apparently hidden on Kate's album covers.
The BBC put this song on a list of songs, not to be played during the 1st Gulf War, as it was considered to be promoting an "anti war" message. When later, the existence of the list was revealed, there was a public backlash about it, and to my knowledge, it (and the other songs on the list) has never been subjected to a ban by the BBC again. What still remains unclear is, just who put the list together: the BBC itself, or was the organisation put under pressure to accept a list created by the government?
As for another Kate Bush song to react to, I'm suggesting a single release from Kate's "Never For Ever" album: "Breathing".
Note: You have already reacted to the two other singles released from the same album: Babooshka and "Army Dreamers" itself.
Here's a little thing, (because you noticed the KTB logo, it was the logo of a short-lived pub band she first went on stage with, the KT Bush Band), Kate's album covers are all worth taking a close look at, hidden on every one is a small KT symbol... you have to search...
As always an intelligent reaction/analyzer. You say it perfectly and with heart (THANK YOU) these old army ego based generals sending young lives into a situation where they already know there is no hope. The songs lyrics along with the melancholic waltz is heartbreaking.
Thanks
Hi and thanks for this. I guess the first thing that really needs to be said is yes 'The Big Country' is worth watching, but yes, 'Paths of Glory' is a truly legendary piece of cinema!
As for this particular Kate Bush song some people have seen it as being anti-army or anti-armed forces, or even anti-war. But according to Kate Bush it really isn't. Others have suggested that it really refers to the conflict in Norther Ireland (she does use an Irish accent after all), but again according to her it really isn't. In her own words Army Dreamers:
“Is about a mother who lost her son overseas. It doesn't matter how he died, but he didn't die in action - it was an accident. I wanted the mother to be a very simple woman […] a grieving mother who, through the death of her soldier boy, questions her motherhood […] The song was meant to cover areas like Germany, especially with the kids that get killed in manoeuvres, not even in action. […] I'm not slagging off the Army, it's just so sad that there are kids who have no O-levels and nothing to do but become soldiers, and it's not really what they want. That's what frightens me […] It's [...] embracing the whole European thing. That's why it says BFPO in the first chorus, to try and broaden it away from Ireland […] It's not specifically about Ireland, it's just putting the case of a mother in these circumstances, how incredibly sad it is for her. How she feels she should have been able to prevent it.”
The BFPO identification at the commencement of the song has generated quite a bit of discussion down the years. Some interpret it as "British Forces Post Office" others interpret it as "British Forces Posted Overseas." I do come down on one side of that discussion but it is suffice to say that what BFPO signals in the song is that whereas her son left home as a soldier, he is returning being shipped home as cargo. "Army Dreamers" is actually really about the army in peace time (despite the ‘Cold War’), and is best viewed through the lens of the British Army of the Rhine during the Cold War. The song is not so much anti-army as it is anti-denial of opportunity and prospects to people on the basis of class, poverty, or early life disadvantage. Kate was always very insistent about this aspect of the song - the blight of a dead end with no opportunity that leaves young people with nothing else. The song is far more a commentary on economic or social policy than a discussion of the rights and wrongs of when or whether to resort to war. The tragedy at the heart of the song is even more sad than you suggested, because in the song her son doesn't even have the 'glory' of falling in battle and dying in war, instead he dies in some accident in peace time.
Kate uses an Irish accent here (she is half Irish on her mother’s side). She says:
“The Irish accent was important because the treatment of the song is very traditional, and the Irish would always use their songs to tell stories, [...] There's something about an Irish accent that's very vulnerable, very poetic, and so by singing it in an Irish accent it comes across in a different way.”
One other remarkable thing about this song is that despite all of the dark subjects she covers elsewhere in her work, this is the Kate Bush song that would eventually ended up getting banned by the BBC during the first Gulf War.
Thanks again for this. it was a really ood reaction video. For different kind of Kate Bush song I always think that nobody's delve into her music is complete without the video for 'This Woman's Work, which she herself directed, or her song "Rocket's Tail" which doesn't have a video but does include David Gilmour doing some superb guitar work.
Thanks once again. I really enjoyed this.
Paths of Glory is a masterpiece. Kubrick is my favourite director too.
@@MaceAroundTheWorld If you are a Kubrick fan you might find the Kate Bush song "Get Out of My House" interesting as it was inspired by Kubrick's movie version of the Stephen King novel "The Shining." Now, it is a VERY challenging song, possibly the most extreme, far out Kate Bush song, (which is quite a statement since we are talking about Kate Bush). But if you can tolerate the collision of sounds, crazy lead vocal and multi-layered backing music and vocals, then it really is a rollicking, spectacular finale to a rollicking, spectacular album. Quite a few people find it just too extreme and weird. I adore it.
I Love this song
KT is Kate's logo. Goes back to when she led a band called The KT Bush Band.
BFPO British Forces Post Office
They are sending his coffin home
So sad
Thank you for analysing this song. You did a great job. More KB please
Thanks and will do
Absolutely adore this song... Kate absolutely nails it lyrically and musically. (Another song that works along this line is THE JAM: "Little Boy Soldiers" from their brilliant "Setting Sons" album.
"PATHS OF GLORY" is a brilliant film... couple of other great anti-war films: "JOHNNY GOT HIS GUN" (perhaps the greatest anti-war novel of all-time.) Metallica used the footage from the film for their great music video of their epic song "ONE" , ...and .... "ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT" (Both the early and new versions are fantastic),
Hey, Mace! I`m so happy that you have reacted to this!!! Also worth to hear and see is "Babooshka". 😊
BFPO: British Forces Post Office.
anti-war. genius musician and visual artist, kate bush.
Great reaction as always.
bro can you react to Alexandra by Reality Club and Dancing with my phone by HYBS? They are pretty popular in indie scene today.
Paths of Glory is a brilliant film, maybe Kirk Douglas's best. You might also appreciate the TV series 'Blackadder Goes Forth' and the film 'Oh What a Lovely War'. Also a more recent German version of 'All Quiet on the Western Front'. 'The Train' with Burt Lancaster is also good.
Postal address British Forces Post Office for British Forces Posted Overseas.
I see you have done a large number of Kate's music. Great. But oddly, considering your inquiring mind, you have reviewed neither Peter Gabriel nor Genesis. Since this is my first viewing I guess I should first understand your tastes, but feel these guys would be of interest. As a bridge, try Kate and Peter Gabriel in the video of his song 'Don't Give Up'. (he was the first lead singer of Genesis)
Great choice and I do not know why more reviewers don't pick this one. Another masterpiece. Artsy and seriously important.
Her original band was The KT Bush Band. The insignia also referred to Kate's KT Fellowship and was used inconspicuously on a few of her album covers. She cleverly sneaked it into a few videos such as "Big Sky".
Check out 2 others…the man with the child in his eyes…and… the kick inside
Great commentary tho the lip smacking is distracting at times
Not prescient. It was the middle of the Irish Troubles and the Cold War. Not long after Vietnam. And I think the Soviets had just invaded Afghanistan. Always plenty of war around. She actually has a Vietnam song on The Dreaming.
Thanks for the comment
@@MaceAroundTheWorld That Vietnam song Is "Pull Out The Pin" With Dave Gilmour backing vocals.
Did you paint those on your wall? It's beautiful.
Yup 👍
Insightful reaction. Enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.
Two wonderful Kate Bush songs with great videos are Moments of pleasure" and "this woman's work"
If you could react to either of those in the future it would be great,
Thanks for the upload.
If you put a ring on and can't get it off there's a video on youtube where a surgeon shows you how (without any surgery).
Well said mate. You on point.
She's a goddess planet kate wonderful
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The context in 1980 was the continuing "Troubles" in Northern Ireland and the threat of accidental war in Europe between the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact vs NATO, which was thought to mean tactical nukes at the very least. In Britain many men with poor job prospects were joining the army instead. Two years later Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands and many of these young men were sent to liberate them.
Thanks for the insights!!! ✊
I’d never heard of British Forces Post Office until I started watching (mostly American) reactions to this song. It was a common abbreviation when I was growing up for British Forces Posted Overseas. Great video, but the best imho is one filmed in Germany which really focuses on the grief of the mother grieving. Easiest search is “Army dreamers Mrs Mop version”
Cheers 🥂
Great!❤
nice comments
Cheers