I feel your pain in 6s. In no less than 5 matches today, I slid around a corner to find THE ENTIRE TEAM OF 6 as a firing line, shoulder to shoulder. How is that fun?
Backup mag was the play on the original Lunas back in the day. It was ok for those that couldn't get Not Forgotten back in the day, but it was easily outclassed by Not Forgotten and a handful of other hand cannons.
This is more like it. Watching streamers do PvP on RUclips it always seemed like they are playing against a bunch of blueberries, but this time Jake's lobby looks a lot like the lobbies I get put in: too many people all standing on top of eachother coming round the corner all at the same time and teamshooting me with meta weapons so I die before I can even get my 3rd shot off. Trying to get my fun perks to proc with all that going on is stressful. Thanks Jake for sharing a realistic example of gameplay here :)
Magnificent howl seems like the play for really good players who can just run through every lobby they play in stacking up the perk but for most average players precision instrument is probly better
So.. I just realized I have the slideshot mag howl. It was the very first luna I got. Corkscrew, appended mag + backup mod (gives me 14) range master. I also got a heal clip incandescent. I guess I'm crazy lucky, lol.
My second drop was slide shot, magnificent howl, with smallbore/ricochet rounds. my third drop was discord/ heal clip in the third column and incandescent /precision instrument in the forth column.
Probably gonna go for heal clip/incandescent and use it for PvE, I don’t like weapons I have to think about while using and epochal integration’s origin trait is just too good with conditional finality
if you only got 1 mag howl bullet use it with lucky pants and last word.... you headshot with lunas and quick swap to last word for an instakill. if you have two mag howl perks i use the two taps... either way i always win.
Did first round of Onslaught since unlocking Luna's how, and first chest got Shiny HammerForged , Ricochet, Slideshot, Magnificent Howl, and a Range MW. I'm DONE 😂🤣
The look and sound is a big deal for me because some hand cannons that look bad when firing will make me not want to use it. I'm gonna farm hard for this but the question is if I'll like it better then midnight coop. I did 50 guardian kills today with my explosive opening shot midnight coop and I really enjoy it. The flinch to people messes them up and mine has arrowhead which is 100 recoil or I can go with full bore which i have the max range possible on midnight coop full bore, ricochet, range ,asterwork and opening shot so I can get 100 range however it kills stability so I prefer my 60 range 100 recoil at least that gives me some stability
I'll be getting back in the game next week. My wife (I'm a dude) said I play with the game more than I do with her lol at that point, I knew I needed to take a break lol
@@athenawiltfong5717 I bet you could convince her, especially if she wants to spend more time with you. Its a two way street. She should be willing to try things with you and vice versa.
One precision kill gives you a single shot of magnificent howl on reload. Multiple precision kills would give you multiple shots. Each shot of magnificent howl has a 50% damage bonus. The steps to proc the perk and make a markable difference is probably too much to make the perk worthwhile over other options imo.
I missed out on it first time around. Never acquired it from the archive either. I know it's a 140 but looks like it fires like how 180s fire. Not a fan of 180s. Hopefully I'll like it. I'm going to keep it attuned for pve and pvp god rolls.
Luna's and not forgotten are the only 140 precision frames. So they have a recoil pattern of a 180 but damage and range of a 140. Having both the benefits of a 140 and 180.
I got slideshot precision instrument I haven't used it yet but it could be one of the better rolls. Mine only has 55 range unfortunately so it's a hard pass i am after closer to 70 range stat
Do not even bother to get Slideshot + Magnificient Howl. The combination doesn't work as we would have hoped. Sliding ("AKA reloading the weapon) doesn't convert the stack into a Magnificient bullet.
That’s not the point of slideshot. Slideshot is to add bullets to the mag like holster, giving you more ammo to get more kills, before reloading and getting mag howl.
@@Bradford8333 gives you bonus to range and stability as well which combos super well with the reload but i prefer precision instrument over mag howl for anything other than 6v6 and pretty sure the only 140 that has access to the perk.
The whole point of slideshot is to reload the weapon to never stop pushing and chasing your opponents. If you need to stop and manually reload your gun with slideshot, you either got in an horrible position or you are not using the perk properly. If you go for slideshot, just get Precision Instrument. It’s such a waste with Magnificient Howl.
@@matteocantarelli4852 or you are attempting to activate the mag howl perk? You can push people with slideshot all day, build up enough stacks of mag howl, manually reload, and then get a two tap on the next guardian.
UPDATE: slideshot mag howl does NOT work it doesnt upkeep nor proc to begin with on the slide reload got this as my third drop and was very disappointed when i saw you still have to manually reload hope yall find your god rolls just not this one :/
Okay but doesn't Luna's effect still stay while you slide shot reload? If it doesn't count as a reload then it shouldn't disappear either. That just means you have the buff way longer than you normally should..
I think people want slideshot so they can get ammo back without reloading so you can keep stacking howl shots until you actually do a real reload then you can go on a two tapping spree.
Not all the destiny no lifers using this in crucible i came to yt and searched luna all you guys are so sad cant even play the game and use it on your own straight to yt
God I remeber when this gun first came out. It was sooooo crispy.
My Chicken Nuggets are crispy and delicious
Buddy of mine got slideshot/mag howl with heal clip/incan for the second set of perks. 😮
That was the exact shiny roll I got a couple of hours ago
@@kmoebossman I was pissed. I almost 4 hours running legend onslaught and he got it from the wave ten playlist. lol
Lmao damn he got the ultimate god roll
Unfortunately slideshot reload doesn't proc mag howl 😭
@@paulhinterberger7438we don’t want it to. We want to reload it without loading the howl shots so we can stack more howl shots..
I can't wait for Not Forgotten to be unsunset. Lunas is phenomenal, and being able to use Not Forgotten again is going to be amazing.
I feel your pain in 6s. In no less than 5 matches today, I slid around a corner to find THE ENTIRE TEAM OF 6 as a firing line, shoulder to shoulder. How is that fun?
My favorite hand cannon is finally back… yay
And it’s still a shell of itself
@@stellarity9735it should be a 180
Thread of Ascent is a free reload if you're running Strand Hunter. Completely tops you off without being a reload. Widow's Silk makes it spicier!
This is definitely my favorite hand cannon. Non stop grind for a slide pi with more range. Mine has 61 range rn
Backup mag was the play on the original Lunas back in the day. It was ok for those that couldn't get Not Forgotten back in the day, but it was easily outclassed by Not Forgotten and a handful of other hand cannons.
This is more like it.
Watching streamers do PvP on RUclips it always seemed like they are playing against a bunch of blueberries, but this time Jake's lobby looks a lot like the lobbies I get put in: too many people all standing on top of eachother coming round the corner all at the same time and teamshooting me with meta weapons so I die before I can even get my 3rd shot off. Trying to get my fun perks to proc with all that going on is stressful.
Thanks Jake for sharing a realistic example of gameplay here :)
This thing with t steps warlock is beautiful. Love this weapon
I got the exact same roll but with full bore, accurized, range MW. Thing is disgustingly good
I don’t have much of a reason to put down my onslaught summoner still,., lol.
Dont sleep on Subsistence/Magnificent Howl... getting ammo back for kills to keep the chain going
I suck with hand cannons but this roll was insane. I was getting two-taps and popping off with this sticky head shot monster.
Been running this with Lunafactions for the extra range, you'll hit for 140 with magnificent howl lol.
Heal clip - magnificent howl is cracked
Nobody gonna talk about max range eye of the storm with precision instrument. THAT is the god roll dueler.
Magnificent howl seems like the play for really good players who can just run through every lobby they play in stacking up the perk but for most average players precision instrument is probly better
I hope they bring back "Better Devils" hand cannon!
Loading mod on armor lets you reload without consuming magnificent howl too.
Yup, on getting 50 kills in crucible with Not Forgotten it helps getting precision hit kills then two tapping the next poor soul 🤣
The boots for the warlock that reloads when you air dodge also works, doesnt trigger a reload and you keep your stacks
Transversive Steps. One of the best exotics for warlock
@@b0mberman That does reload but the one this person was on about is Rain of Fire. Transversive Steps is reload after a short time sprinting.
I got a full range slide shot MH with a handling masterwork, finally something I can pair up with my chaperone :D
I use backup mag anyway cause Taylor Swift told me it's important to have 13 in the mag.
So.. I just realized I have the slideshot mag howl. It was the very first luna I got. Corkscrew, appended mag + backup mod (gives me 14) range master. I also got a heal clip incandescent. I guess I'm crazy lucky, lol.
Thank you for the review, cant wait to try it myself, Dumb question, what is solar holster? I must be missing something, thank you.
It's a leg armor mod that slowly reloads stowed solar weapons.
Ummm, Im an idiot. Found it
I've got shiny version of that with slideshow and magnificent how
My second drop was slide shot, magnificent howl, with smallbore/ricochet rounds. my third drop was discord/ heal clip in the third column and incandescent /precision instrument in the forth column.
Now I want Not Forgotten back. I just love that gun model so much
Sunsetting is gone, it's back
It’s going to sunrise… btw you could use in non competitive crucible
@@rayaustin141 I know, but Bungie said they’ll bring it back in the future with random rolls like Lunas howl, that’s what I want
The third one I got was a slideshot kill clip, and it feels nasty in crucible
Slideshot desperado is my best roll but it’s a shiny with ranged masterwork
I wonder what the enhanced version of magnificent howl will be since all brave weapon perks will be enhanceable when final shape drops
You can two tap with one mag howl shot if you have radiant
I think slide/precision instrument will be the move for 3s
Probably gonna go for heal clip/incandescent and use it for PvE, I don’t like weapons I have to think about while using and epochal integration’s origin trait is just too good with conditional finality
Got my roll almost immediately encore magnificent howl trust me it works.
if you only got 1 mag howl bullet use it with lucky pants and last word.... you headshot with lunas and quick swap to last word for an instakill. if you have two mag howl perks i use the two taps... either way i always win.
Did first round of Onslaught since unlocking Luna's how, and first chest got Shiny HammerForged , Ricochet, Slideshot, Magnificent Howl, and a Range MW. I'm DONE 😂🤣
Proud of you!
I am chasing heal clip mag howl keep you alive in those sketchy fights
This gun was a nightmare in PvP, too op
Heal Clip / Magnificent Howl would be a great roll as well
The look and sound is a big deal for me because some hand cannons that look bad when firing will make me not want to use it. I'm gonna farm hard for this but the question is if I'll like it better then midnight coop. I did 50 guardian kills today with my explosive opening shot midnight coop and I really enjoy it. The flinch to people messes them up and mine has arrowhead which is 100 recoil or I can go with full bore which i have the max range possible on midnight coop full bore, ricochet, range ,asterwork and opening shot so I can get 100 range however it kills stability so I prefer my 60 range 100 recoil at least that gives me some stability
doesnt sturm also reload energy weapons on kills so you can lucky pants build with them
I got a slide shot magnificent, I also have a heap clip Kill clip
Got A Slideshot precisin instrument. Is beast it was shiny has discord and Desperate leasure as second perks
Don't know what it is with howl, but to me it feels shower fire rate than a normal 140 like rose or austringer. Could be just me tho
I got slideshot magnificent howl first time
I'll be getting back in the game next week. My wife (I'm a dude) said I play with the game more than I do with her lol at that point, I knew I needed to take a break lol
That's quitter talk. My wife plays the game with me. So I don't need to worry about that. 😂😂😂😂
@@attcbsitwzac1608 unfortunately, my wife doesn't game lol
Lol mine games but we have 4 kids now so we have to take turns
@@cdi9380 my kids are grown and have already made me a papaw lol
@@athenawiltfong5717 I bet you could convince her, especially if she wants to spend more time with you. Its a two way street. She should be willing to try things with you and vice versa.
I would say slide shot with precision instrument instead of MH
Yeah thanks to Fallout, everyone is already trying to get slideshot/magnificent howl. Personally I want to see what encore/ howl does
One precision kill gives you a single shot of magnificent howl on reload. Multiple precision kills would give you multiple shots. Each shot of magnificent howl has a 50% damage bonus. The steps to proc the perk and make a markable difference is probably too much to make the perk worthwhile over other options imo.
Making me want to pick Destiny back up
What is the best way to do this quest?
Kill things with a hand cannon
Play pvp
I missed out on it first time around. Never acquired it from the archive either. I know it's a 140 but looks like it fires like how 180s fire. Not a fan of 180s. Hopefully I'll like it. I'm going to keep it attuned for pve and pvp god rolls.
Luna's and not forgotten are the only 140 precision frames. So they have a recoil pattern of a 180 but damage and range of a 140. Having both the benefits of a 140 and 180.
@@theremnants6807Appreciate the explanation! Makes sense. I've never used either so I was curious. Thanks!
I remember killed by this freaking gun sooooo much
What about heal clip, magnificent howl? With lucky pants?
I got slideshot precision instrument I haven't used it yet but it could be one of the better rolls. Mine only has 55 range unfortunately so it's a hard pass i am after closer to 70 range stat
When you slide it boosts your range by 20 for 2 seconds
2:30 what grenade launcher is that? Have i just never seen this thing! I've never seen a gl put down a flame like that
Bruh. That's witherhoard
Basically drang and sturm
It does I got 134 head shot plus the 81
Uh heres an idea switch your dodge to gamblers
What about tranversive steps on warlock?
Quick question, what perk is giving him that over shield after a kill? Thx
It's a void fragment called Echo of Vigilance.
I use heal clip and magnificent howl
since the new lunas has a changed magnificent howl does that mean it also changed on not forgotten?
yes
A lot of better weapons? Like, which ones please, grenader!
Yesss the contentt 🎉
Magnificent howl is definitely going to be better in 6v6
How do you always shoot yourself in the head? I play with hand cannons on PC and it's like I never hit 3 in a row
Everyone is slideshot slideshot slideshot, but by far I feel like appended mag and subsistence is a way better boon for maghowl
I got heal clip and kill clip which I haven’t tried out yet but it sounds fun
Would a holster mod load it without messing up the precision kill count?
Yea
It is probably the best 140 rn....in general obviously not s tier but hand cannons it is S
Good the game needs controlled chaos
what the fk was that aim snap at 1:11 ?????
the gun just feels weird to me. Something about the fire rate with the recoil
Hey i ned help on rot of nightmare to get that armor for my hunter if anyone have time for that.?
another advantage tool for ximers
Enjoy my hawkmoon more.
I want heal clip with Incan....time to farm
This gun slaps
Do not even bother to get Slideshot + Magnificient Howl. The combination doesn't work as we would have hoped. Sliding ("AKA reloading the weapon) doesn't convert the stack into a Magnificient bullet.
That’s not the point of slideshot. Slideshot is to add bullets to the mag like holster, giving you more ammo to get more kills, before reloading and getting mag howl.
@@Bradford8333 gives you bonus to range and stability as well which combos super well with the reload but i prefer precision instrument over mag howl for anything other than 6v6 and pretty sure the only 140 that has access to the perk.
The whole point of slideshot is to reload the weapon to never stop pushing and chasing your opponents. If you need to stop and manually reload your gun with slideshot, you either got in an horrible position or you are not using the perk properly. If you go for slideshot, just get Precision Instrument. It’s such a waste with Magnificient Howl.
@@matteocantarelli4852 or you are attempting to activate the mag howl perk? You can push people with slideshot all day, build up enough stacks of mag howl, manually reload, and then get a two tap on the next guardian.
Auto reloader holster on your boots store your hand for a few seconds and it’s good to go
How many headshot kill you need to 1 shot anywhere that's the real question also Luna plus lucky pants will be op
Not to do with hand canons but 1 bullets special is terrible! Boring as f, I wanna snipe🥲 feels like they don't know what to do with special ammo
It's not right giving away pinnacle crucible weapon for nothing after all the hard work I did to get not forgotten 😢
wahhh, its been 4 years, let it go
@@10rio I should but damn the suffering I went through 😂😂😂
Your Not Forgotten will still be usable in Final Shape. Also everyone could buy one at the kiosk for the past year.
Whaaa
It’s been several years we had our time to shine. Plus it’ll never be as strong as it was when we earned it initially
Bro don’t let destiny’ Nerf it
UPDATE: slideshot mag howl does NOT work it doesnt upkeep nor proc to begin with on the slide reload got this as my third drop and was very disappointed when i saw you still have to manually reload hope yall find your god rolls just not this one :/
Okay but doesn't Luna's effect still stay while you slide shot reload?
If it doesn't count as a reload then it shouldn't disappear either.
That just means you have the buff way longer than you normally should..
It's way better without count as reload, you can easily farm precisions kills using slideshot and then start to 2 tap everyone!
Yeah it works, you can literally save your magnificent howl bullets and bank them. And use them when your ready to piss someone one off
I think people want slideshot so they can get ammo back without reloading so you can keep stacking howl shots until you actually do a real reload then you can go on a two tapping spree.
Still worse than ace though
A weapon people keep forgetting about and Sturm!
@willster947 never carried for sturm. Feels slow and heavy but ive definitely been slammed by it
Na it hasn’t broken PvP imo lmao
The gun is ass
Not all the destiny no lifers using this in crucible i came to yt and searched luna all you guys are so sad cant even play the game and use it on your own straight to yt
Meh
Trash