You can argue Superman wins you can argue Thor wins but its literally it's 50/50 they are literally both outerversal scaling so I can literally agree with both arguments
Remember Thor and Superman are equally matched in strength but Superman has other powers that could give him an edge. However, Thor also have other powers and some of those powers including Mijoinir are magic based which gives him an edge over Superman, even if Superman lifts Mijoinir, it would also weaken him. Thor also has a berserker mode where he become insanely more powerful and at that point, it will be like Superman fighting ten Thors which would be his demise. No one wants to hear it but Superman would like piss Thor off and it wouldn't end well for our blue boy scout.
@@dharamveersinghBais you are not telling me that thor is fast enough to catch superman ! And is Superman that slow to be unable to dodge thor's magical attacks !
@@Chillythesilly I meant downplay in general with most Power Scalers not you specifically. He's higher showings are usually not scaled as high as they should be, especially the Knull and Phoenix fights.
Fighting Knull and Toranos definetly puts Thor High outer to high outer+ with immeasurable to irrelevant speed. Saying low outer to outer is kinda insane ngl.
So true, but let me ask you. Superman is stronger than Thor. Let's say that's true but what fool fights a man like that? Thor has the of magic. That's one thing, but how about Kryptonite? Always fight with your assets, and using kryptonite is Supes biggest weakness...it kills him. But what about Batman? Batman is not afraid of Superman because he has a contingency plan in case Supes goes nuts. Bats got some Krypton bullets or red sun bullets, something that can stop Supes...now if Batman has that, what can Thor do. And if it's Rune King Thor I think it's a rap. The problem is these writers. Rarely do they write Thor up to his full potential. I've been over at DC for the past few days, and I have to tell you....I've seen 6 video's about Supes, and 5 of them were epic...that's right, much better than what I've seen of Thor, and I used to be a big fan of Thor. But these writers have turned me off, and I'm not even going to talk about the movies. One guy said that they should kill Thor off...I kind of agree, and if they can't write Thor on the level of who he really is...then I agree. And again I used to love Thor, but those writers...are simply terrible..
The story of superman was such a great meta answer to the this guy vs superman argument.. they made him the prime existence of all fictional heros. Without superman there is no marvel thor, no goku..
Bro what are you talking about I don't share your opinion Thor was already part Norse mythology 😮 bro I'm not a superman diehard but That's subjective.
This is why I dislike Superman, He is well written but the writers literally gave him a power that says he can't lose no matter what.m because the plot demands it. Wow just Wow
Honestly very nice video. But I feel like you could've implemented some more Thor feats and scaling. Two weaker thors fought and shook all realities. Odin is multiversal he can destroy and recreate the multiverse. Currently, Thor is more powerful than Odin at this point as Odin's force is added to his own powers. Thor as a baby shook the world tree itself which is all of realities. Thor as a kid opened a book of infinite pages. Thor provided 1/4 of the power to stop the multiverse from collapsing. Thor with his Phoenix powers provided a fraction to stop an omniversal flood from destroying the Marvel omniverse. The world tree in marvel is all of reality itself. Its not just multiverse but also an omniverse. It holds stories, concepts, and cosmic beings such as galactus and the living tribunal. Thor just by believing in himself beat mythos who's took the odinforce and the power of world tree. So a base Thor beat a wielder of the world tree which holds infinite realities, timelines, concepts, stories, and more. Marvel gods are extradimensional ideas. Thor is a platonic concept and represent a Jungian archetype thus making him above numbers, space and time. Thor has immeasurable levels of speed as he time traveled, outspeed silver surfer, flew through infinite multiverses and dimensions in mere moments. You can also say that Thor can react at these speeds as well. He's also faster Jane foster who traveled the ten infinite-sized realms in a blink of an eye. Thor can amp himself with odinforce, some of his mother elder god powers, some of the Phoenix flames, and recently he took Zeus powers for himself and Zeus is stated to be equal to Odin. Supes vs Thor can literally go either way. The story of superman vs the power of Thor will be a wild one to see.
Let me give you an extra feat,in “The Phantom Stranger (2012) #18” Superman made the phantom stranger bleed with a single punch,he also literally burst through the phantom stranger’s physical and metaphysical aspects of form,And The Phantom Stranger himself In “The Phantom Stranger (2012) #6” CASUALLY walked into a room in which SEVERAL MILLION UNIVERSES WERE COLLIDING!!And Superman still managed to make him bleed with a punch,as well as burst through his physical and metaphysical aspects of form,And this was NEW 52 SUPERMAN!!New 52 Superman is only a HALF of the Post Crisis Superman
@@Chillythesilly actually, Im a superman fan. Love both dc and marvel, however. But superman, superman, superman. All the way...for who he is, not what he can do, btw. what I mock is amateurs who clearly don't understand context and nuance and the artistic license that is taken in comic book storytelling, and instead, take that nuanced writing literally, while coming up with bullshit tiers that simply don't apply to anyone or anything in comics. You people just don't "get" the medium or how things work. ....Sincerely, a comic book collector, historian and actual authority on the subject for some 46 years now. LOL
@@pullcarsmelly8051 I don’t care what or who YOU are lol Of course I read and enjoy comics but my hobby is Powerscaling lol Stop being so Shakespearean about it
@@Chillythesilly "shakespearean"? Wow. You're like the baskins and robbins of stupid, kid. 36 different flavors of dumb. Don't require you to rattle off a list of your likes and dislikes. This isn't tinder. :)
When Superman dies, he comes back stronger He’s like doomsday, doomsday, dies, and comes back stronger. When Superman comes back stronger, he’s invincible
Superman is stronger than Thor. Let's say that's true but what fool fights a man like that? Thor has the of magic. That's one thing, but how about Kryptonite? Always fight with your assets, and using kryptonite is Supes biggest weakness...it kills him. But what about Batman? Batman is not afraid of Superman because he has a contingency plan in case Supes goes nuts. Bats got some Krypton bullets or red sun bullets, something that can stop Supes...now if Batman has that, what can Thor do. And if it's Rune King Thor I think it's a rap. The problem is these writers. Rarely do they write Thor up to his full potential. I've been over at DC for the past few days, and I have to tell you....I've seen 6 video's about Supes, and 5 of them were epic...that's right, much better than what I've seen of Thor, and I used to be a big fan of Thor. But these writers have turned me off, and I'm not even going to talk about the movies. One guy said that they should kill Thor off...I kind of agree, and if they can't write Thor on the level of who he really is...then I agree. And again I used to love Thor, but those writers...are simply terrible..
@@Chillythesilly No need to....The writers control everything, so it makes no difference. Opinions of readers doesn't make a difference. It's just crazy that Batman, who is just a very strong human has no fear of Superman, and has a plan for him...I'm just wondering why Thor can't use that advantage just like Batman. I also know that you never fight to your opponents advantage, and terms. And one more thing....Thor has more powers as well, but you know, again it's just done.
@@Chillythesilly Yes he does....there's a new video that shows that he does have more powers than before. For one, he can teleport, so if he was me I would teleport to a red sun or get hold of some kryptonite. But no matter because it's up to the writer. I think at Marvel there must be some Thor haters.
Superman could also take blast from Gog who was stated have power beyond the quintessence and one shot mxy with his staff that was stated to have the emerald energy of the guardians of the universe, the cosmic power of the source and the combined magical might of Zeus and Shazam
Another hero vs. Superman.. yep, superman is OG.. when Saitama came in, people immediately compared him to Superman and made Saitama vs Superman battles all over the internet.. Same with Invincible and his father. If there would be another powerful Superhero created, guess who they would compare it with.. Not Thor, Not Goku, Not Vegeta nor Sentry.. But F***in SUPERMAN.. that's how OG he is.. and obviously he wins time and time again...
Depends on who is writing the stories. Superman in general is written as an Ultimate level character which all other feats are measured against. Thor is not written as a lynchpin character for an entire universe. So that's important when looking at this from a writers' standpoint and motivations on the outcomes of such battles. If Thor were to say one shot Superman, the worldbuilding ramifications would be massive and rewrite much established lore and truths of both universes. Now if we're talking Dr Manhattan, both Thor and Superman are screwed.
@@Chillythesilly No way and I'm a Superman fanboy. Dr Manhattan vs Superman would be like Superman vs Batman in a real fight. The fight would be over before its started. There are many videos from other creators breaking things down this match up but basically with Manhattan can exist in the past present and future simultaneously and control all matter down to the atomic level without even breaking a sweat. Supes is fast and powerful, but he can't beat time and his atoms being disassembled, or worse, Manhattan going into the past and just erasing Superman's entire origin from the timeline from history so he doesn't even exist. The only thing stopping Manhattan is plain ole boredom. From Manhattan's perspective we are like his ant farm or reality TV show that he just enjoys observing and doesn't care to mess with to see all the outcomes. Again, Superman is someone I consider one of the ultimate characters out there (mostly because his character needs to be by design). But Dr Manhattan is just way out of Superman's reach to destroy. Stalemate maybe, but in a death match, Manhattan wouldn't even be stressed. Have you done a video on this match up yet? If not, check out a few other creators. I think you will get a kick out of the fundamental differences just from a comic nerd perspective.
@@Chillythesilly That is not accurate. The Doomsday Clock was a great story. One of my favs. However Superman and Dr Manhattan never fought in that story. Their meetup was a conversation. I am guessing you are talking about where Dr Manhattan says, "I see a vision of the Superman in the future. He found me and he destroys me. Or I destroy the metaverse". Dr Manhattan is not talking about a fight. He is talking about a potential future where Dr Manhattan ceases to exist and that's why he can't see further than that in that particular timeline. This can happen if Dr Manhattan chooses to no longer exist all on his own. Keep in mind Dr Manhattan is CASUALLY rewriting the entire DC metaverse just for fun just to see if things are as hopeless in the metaverse as it is in the Watchmen universe. He is experimenting with an entire metaverse over and over again like its nothing. That is the level of power Dr Manhattan has and way more powerful than Superman. BUT one thing Superman is, and Dr Manhattan mentions, is Superman survives because he is the embodiment of hope, and Superman in this story INSPIRED Dr Manhattan. In this comic, Dr Manhattan made Superman and all of the metaverse cease to exist after speaking with Superman. He then went back and restored everything the way it was with a little tweaks. Dr Manhattan then went back to the Watchmen universe, removed the nukes, and raised a child to grow up to be just like Superman (similar upbringing and moral compass) but with Dr Manhattan's powers. This child will do for the Watchmen universe what Superman does for the Metaverse. A true north embodiment of Hope that endures in all time. On a side note, this comic series was a masterpiece in continuity with all the timelines and bending of universes.
Supes is strong fast has laser like eyes and can now detonate like a Nuke. Thor now has the Odin Force add that to a GodBast amongst 2 dozen powers of Mjolnir. They fought one in a cross over and Supes BARLEY won. Thor has absorbed Odins power since then and NEVER used his God Blast. Remember in another cross over Darkseids beams di not even make Galactus flinch while Thors God Blast made him run away. Popularity Supes, True Overall Power THOR!
Kid, there's alot of things you got wrong in this video, superman lifting "heavens." Also Thor has way more than what you listed, I'd also to see Superman try to survive the godbomb (which is way BEYOND the omega-effect)
@@jayboirockshc8244 Nice use of a blatant statement without saying anything of use lol And again saying something and expecting me to blindly accept it
*Superman trancends time space and matter he has power over distance dark matter the most powerful magic ever created which created DC itself power over weight temperature mind abilities wormholes time bending time and warping space touch invulnerability speed strength IQ ( PROVE ( Action comics issue 1050 / DC comics issue 29 / lord of order comics / warlord comics / sandman comics ( in these comics he was more powerful then dr manhattan and almost equally powerful then the presence he even was able to hurt the phantom stranger the very one who fought the spectre to a standstil damn the presence himself had to stop that fight ) PLUS if superman chooses to use stardips he becomes invincible geatly multi thousand on thousand on thousand times more powerful with even more abilities ( Superman's power sources is as follow :::: [ yellow stars white stars blue stars neutron stars dwarf stars magical stars plants the fire of apokalypse some matter the totality and sun gods and once he also use the construct of hell becoming more powerful [ this very guy ruled lucifers hell back in 2007 issue 666 he literally threw demons around like cardboard boxes* *True original Superman at full power will overpower MARVEL / DC / XMEN and all characters ever created all by himself instantly* *Everyone on that list is weak and pathetic when compared to the full true original superman*
@@abubaocear7171 “I’ll stay a blatant statement and hope this guy is dumb enough to believe me! Even tho he scaled the character to that high! It’s full proof!” ☝️🤓
“Oh my god, I’m so childish! So I’m going to make those idiotic quotes coming from my fantasies because people don’t believe my bullshit scaling!!!!” 🤡 👆
@@Chillythesilly it’s obvious that Thor just by himself no hammer is still very strong like let’s be obvious weakened Thor feat from 29 second of the video was pretty impressive if you have this much strength our punches must be super strong.
@@Chillythesilly i’m just saying that Thor‘s punches are super strong…. I’m just giving respect to Thor because people calls him weak because he uses his hammer… respect Thor and Superman
@@Chillythesilly who do you think would win? That was like 29 second in our video Thor no hammer vs omniman … I know this is nothing to do with our video
Thor is a better,more interesting character. But Superman as invented is too powerful for almost any other comic book character to defeat. Of course kryptonite is always lurking in the shadows. Dr.Strange or Dr.Doom would be a better match against Superman, knowing that magic is a problem for Supes.
@@CarlosGarcia91000 but I didn't get one thing like why his speed is irrelevant I see his speed like immesurable or something and it would be unfair amped Superman defeated high outer being just by one punch 😭
@@Clurge Superman actually flew faster than infinity although when he was amped, his speed felt across dimensions when he punched the world forger he destroyed his Multiverse and just to let you know the forger was not weekend
1:47 did Thor hold up creation all of creation or it was just a statement he cuz some fan claimed that he held the pillars of creation or something. Great video by the way
I feel like thor would last long enough to deplete superman of his solar reserves. Thor can fight for months straight while superman would need to recharge. Superman on the other hand has more speed and maneuverability. I would still put my money on superman though.
@@matth6014 Superman has a lot if not more stamina than Thor. As he’s relative to Wonder Woman who he her and Thor ( DC’s one ) Thought in Valhalla for a thousands of years
The 9 realms are planets. Thats why earth ( midguard) is one of the 9 realms. Also not sure how the asguardians rule earth ....i mean the greeks and Egyptian gods would disagree i assume. Lol
@Chillythesilly earth is a entire dimension? Because the asguardins have never claimed to rule....say the kree empire. Which is in the same dimension and universe as earth. Lol
Story of Superman doesn't scale anywhere, it doesn't mean Superman can't lose in battle it only means he can't be removed from continuity as dc Cosmology revolves around his existence due to metaverse connection. This doesn't make him unbeatable. Thor would win
@@Chillythesilly it doesn't work cross verse as Superman legit lost to venom in a crossover,he also got knocked out by the avengers in jla avenger crossover... Anyways you can keep coping with your cringe head Canon think DC can dictate to other comic books companies
@TimSurrealYT It's just as bad as kryptonite for Superman, regardless. ANY magic is bad for him. And ke isn't the ONLY Kryptonian affected by magic. His cousin and dog are affected by it as well. Yes, he has a dog. His dog's name is Krypto.
@@JoseFigueroa-iz2on wOw WhO wOuLDve ThOugHt hE HaD a DoG and no it's not as bad as kryptonite, he has multiple times outbeaten magical creatures and has a higher chance beating magical creatures than kryptonite weapons
Sups wins no doubt. Milnjr is not helping in this fight. Especially when superman is more than worthy of milnjr. Sups outclasses him in strength and speed alone. He is almost as fast as flash and there is no one in the marvel universe than can match flash in speed. Thors lightning is definitely not gonna touch sups. Sorry Thor but your definitely losing this fight.
Superman got beat by a guy with no powers that dresses like a bat...The god of Thunder would win. You can't take a loss like that and then say he'd beat Thor. Magic is a weakness of Superman, Thor's got it in spades, and is his physical equal. None of superman's powers are really going to effect Thor, (heat vision...Thor's relaxed in the center of the sun, frost breath...he's a viking god...) The Magic hammer if you don't have silly writers is going to wreck superman. If we really have Thor go nuts he can teleport Superman to a dimension with no yellow sun and just let him whither a way. He could teleport himself to what's left of Krypton and grab a mectric ton of kryptonite. He can exploit Superman's weaknesses, but the reverse is not true. That being said he could beat him without resorting to that. Would Thor beat Superman in a straight up fight everytime, no, but if you don't have the writers being biased and just look at the two characters and their weaknesses, Thor embodies what you would imagine the nemesis of Superman being.
The honest truth is companies allowing writers to have free reign to write stupid stories. Companies play this competition game where one levels up they're characters powers levels and abilities then the other follows suet. They keep doing this back and forth till both are ridiculously over powered and BORING!
@@Chillythesilly. A monitor said story of Superman is unstoppable and indestructible, and in the same comic the word inexorable was also used, but I don’t know how literal being unstoppable, because if it was literal, it means SOS is the most powerful thing in DC, period?
@@Chillythesilly A monitor said story of Superman is unstoppable and indestructible, and in the same comic the word inexorable was also used, but I don’t know how literal being unstoppable, because if it was literal, it means SOS is the most powerful thing in DC, period?
Stop putting superman speed to this flash is faster but can't beat superman so I think it is bias also superman can't even beat Zeus and Zeus isn't that fast
Yet Marvel is massively bigger than DC and has been for years and years. Reason... DC's horrible story writing be it comics, cartoons or movies. So how does that popularity contest go again you say?
The DC put him in the top 3-5 fastest being even beating a lot of flashes not all but a few. Plus he has that heat vision plus cold breath attack that he never uses that is really powerful.
@@Daverast01 that is perhaps because comics suck these days with no limitations against the greater supreme forces that are outside of the "hero". NO being should ever be stronger than the fabrics that weave the actual universe. As a result, MAN's conception of strength is unbounded.
@@TriuneSelf4444 i literally had no idea what you just wrote... I was literally just saying that just because Superman is vulnerable to Magic does not mean he's weak to it like Kryptonite he has beating magic users before and you're literally talking about fictional characters can't go above Universal is really a dumb argument when it's literally fiction it's it's not supposed to make any sense
@@Daverast01 Greetings - then let me explain the simple comment that was sent. Magic is a form of elemental use. The elements make up the very fabrics of the universe. So, how can any one individual be stronger than that which composes such said universe? The only competitor who should win is another with stronger control over those elements. In layman terms: Superman should lose to a good wielding magician and NOT beat 'so many that it is not funny anymore'. While it IS fiction it is suppose to make sense in comparison to the individuals powers and within the reality of the comic. If not than it would not have the strong fan base because fans will not buy/read/know about the comics that do not make sense (would you?). They all have a baseline and guideline of it's reality to develop the characters from. Good job on realizing they are fictional characters - your smart, bad job on realizing 'it's not suppose to make sense' (even though you read/have read the comics and care enough to comment again on them.
@@Prominent_intellect Thor got KOed by a sniper bullet like a b***h(which he is btw)Thor has never even destroyed a planet or solar system without his precious mallet lol,At least Superman can blow up a planet with nothing more but his bare hands
Ah yes… the DC downplayer who relies on low level scalers/debaters (their literal rankings in the main debating community 😭🙏) like drip_sauce and brutality to “debunk” DC super amateurishly and you goons literally EAT IT ALL UP. “DC caps at 6D ☝️🤓” 😭😭. Over abundance of proof for infinite geometric spatial dimensions and over abundance of proof for its conceptual existence being beyond physics and concepts including that of dimensionality is ludicrous. DC > your fav verse. Cope harder
@@nelsonisc9670 Instead of just saying “u dumb!! Thor one shot Ooga booga!!!” Prove it then. Thor can’t one shot superman. And superman wins. If you disagree make an argument
@@nelsonisc9670 A: the crossovers aren’t canon or at ,east elseworld stories. B: he literally didn’t. And superman won the fight. Along with beating the hulk LMFAO. Get better arguments you butt hurt goon
You can argue Superman wins you can argue Thor wins but its literally it's 50/50 they are literally both outerversal scaling so I can literally agree with both arguments
This a probably the reasonable take I've seen, and I whole heartedly agree.
Nop
Superman wins
Stan lee said nobody can defeat Superman
@@LeandroCaioBorges Stan lee says whoever wins is who the writer chooses
Remember Thor and Superman are equally matched in strength but Superman has other powers that could give him an edge. However, Thor also have other powers and some of those powers including Mijoinir are magic based which gives him an edge over Superman, even if Superman lifts Mijoinir, it would also weaken him. Thor also has a berserker mode where he become insanely more powerful and at that point, it will be like Superman fighting ten Thors which would be his demise. No one wants to hear it but Superman would like piss Thor off and it wouldn't end well for our blue boy scout.
@@dakiddtv874
Unfortunately magic ≠ instant win
Or Superman just go for a quick nice blue or white star sundip and handle thor like a child !
@@yashmahi5021 yeah and thor will just sit there and wait for him right? 🤡
@@dharamveersinghBais you are not telling me that thor is fast enough to catch superman !
And is Superman that slow to be unable to dodge thor's magical attacks !
*Equally match in strength damn thor don't even possess a tenth of supermans true strength*
Modern Thor Is High Outerversal with irrelevant Speed easily. He's Feats against the Phoenix Force and Knull are insane. The Thor Downplay is crazy.
@@ArishemTheJudge-19 I’m not downplaying him lol
@@Chillythesilly I meant downplay in general with most Power Scalers not you specifically. He's higher showings are usually not scaled as high as they should be, especially the Knull and Phoenix fights.
@@ArishemTheJudge-19 oh my apologies I thought you meant me 😅
@@ArishemTheJudge-19 exactly even some super man downplayers are crazy
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7rDude just can't accept superman is HIM
Fighting Knull and Toranos definetly puts Thor High outer to high outer+ with immeasurable to irrelevant speed. Saying low outer to outer is kinda insane ngl.
@@Danger-cp9hp
Yea idk what I was smoking lol 😂
So true, but let me ask you. Superman is stronger than Thor. Let's say that's true but what fool fights a man like that? Thor has the of magic. That's one thing, but how about Kryptonite? Always fight with your assets, and using kryptonite is Supes biggest weakness...it kills him. But what about Batman? Batman is not afraid of Superman because he has a contingency plan in case Supes goes nuts. Bats got some Krypton bullets or red sun bullets, something that can stop Supes...now if Batman has that, what can Thor do. And if it's Rune King Thor I think it's a rap. The problem is these writers. Rarely do they write Thor up to his full potential. I've been over at DC for the past few days, and I have to tell you....I've seen 6 video's about Supes, and 5 of them were epic...that's right, much better than what I've seen of Thor, and I used to be a big fan of Thor. But these writers have turned me off, and I'm not even going to talk about the movies. One guy said that they should kill Thor off...I kind of agree, and if they can't write Thor on the level of who he really is...then I agree. And again I used to love Thor, but those writers...are simply terrible..
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@@Chillythesilly i didn't.
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The story of superman was such a great meta answer to the this guy vs superman argument.. they made him the prime existence of all fictional heros. Without superman there is no marvel thor, no goku..
It shows that super man has absolute power but it doesn't corrupt that what Iove not that he is op but bc he is trying to live among us
Bro what are you talking about I don't share your opinion Thor was already part Norse mythology 😮 bro I'm not a superman diehard but
That's subjective.
This is why I dislike Superman, He is well written but the writers literally gave him a power that says he can't lose no matter what.m because the plot demands it. Wow just Wow
@user-zo7zx3zb4u not true. Superman loses all the time. Superman stans just don't acknowledge it
@@ReaperRIPItUP super man doesn't lose all the time wtf
Honestly very nice video. But I feel like you could've implemented some more Thor feats and scaling.
Two weaker thors fought and shook all realities. Odin is multiversal he can destroy and recreate the multiverse. Currently, Thor is more powerful than Odin at this point as Odin's force is added to his own powers.
Thor as a baby shook the world tree itself which is all of realities. Thor as a kid opened a book of infinite pages.
Thor provided 1/4 of the power to stop the multiverse from collapsing. Thor with his Phoenix powers provided a fraction to stop an omniversal flood from destroying the Marvel omniverse.
The world tree in marvel is all of reality itself. Its not just multiverse but also an omniverse. It holds stories, concepts, and cosmic beings such as galactus and the living tribunal.
Thor just by believing in himself beat mythos who's took the odinforce and the power of world tree. So a base Thor beat a wielder of the world tree which holds infinite realities, timelines, concepts, stories, and more.
Marvel gods are extradimensional ideas.
Thor is a platonic concept and represent a Jungian archetype thus making him above numbers, space and time.
Thor has immeasurable levels of speed as he time traveled, outspeed silver surfer, flew through infinite multiverses and dimensions in mere moments. You can also say that Thor can react at these speeds as well. He's also faster Jane foster who traveled the ten infinite-sized realms in a blink of an eye.
Thor can amp himself with odinforce, some of his mother elder god powers, some of the Phoenix flames, and recently he took Zeus powers for himself and Zeus is stated to be equal to Odin.
Supes vs Thor can literally go either way. The story of superman vs the power of Thor will be a wild one to see.
Story of Superman solo
If Supes truly has a weakness to magic, then Thor wins with fair ease.
Sorry to break it to you but he's not weak to magic just vulnerable to it. And he has fought magical beings that scale high outer before
@@ShogunAT3 Vulnerable means able to be damaged. Pretty simple
Let me give you an extra feat,in “The Phantom Stranger (2012) #18” Superman made the phantom stranger bleed with a single punch,he also literally burst through the phantom stranger’s physical and metaphysical aspects of form,And The Phantom Stranger himself In “The Phantom Stranger (2012) #6” CASUALLY walked into a room in which SEVERAL MILLION UNIVERSES WERE COLLIDING!!And Superman still managed to make him bleed with a punch,as well as burst through his physical and metaphysical aspects of form,And this was NEW 52 SUPERMAN!!New 52 Superman is only a HALF of the Post Crisis Superman
thank you. So much for this feat.
You have no idea how much this helps me.
@@Chillythesilly Anytime,Bro!I am very glad that I could Help you This Much!!
Power scalers make me laugh. No experienced comic book reader should ever take you guys seriously.
Oh no someone’s mad because Thor didn’t win how sad.
“Waaaa!!! Someone has a hobby that I don’t understand waaa!!”
@@Chillythesilly actually, Im a superman fan. Love both dc and marvel, however. But superman, superman, superman. All the way...for who he is, not what he can do, btw. what I mock is amateurs who clearly don't understand context and nuance and the artistic license that is taken in comic book storytelling, and instead, take that nuanced writing literally, while coming up with bullshit tiers that simply don't apply to anyone or anything in comics. You people just don't "get" the medium or how things work. ....Sincerely, a comic book collector, historian and actual authority on the subject for some 46 years now. LOL
@@pullcarsmelly8051
I don’t care what or who YOU are lol
Of course I read and enjoy comics but my hobby is Powerscaling lol
Stop being so Shakespearean about it
@@Chillythesilly "shakespearean"? Wow. You're like the baskins and robbins of stupid, kid. 36 different flavors of dumb. Don't require you to rattle off a list of your likes and dislikes. This isn't tinder. :)
The Thor hate and The superman hate is going up to the sky meanwhile me respecting every character that has very impressive feats
Superman’s invisible he can’t be stopped
When Superman dies, he comes back stronger He’s like doomsday, doomsday, dies, and comes back stronger. When Superman comes back stronger, he’s invincible
Good to see others know about the story of Superman. And some of Thor’s scaling most people don’t know about. Good video I like it.
I think if Superman were in Marvel, Thor would win. And vice-versa if Thor were in DC, Superman would win.
Superman is stronger than Thor. Let's say that's true but what fool fights a man like that? Thor has the of magic. That's one thing, but how about Kryptonite? Always fight with your assets, and using kryptonite is Supes biggest weakness...it kills him. But what about Batman? Batman is not afraid of Superman because he has a contingency plan in case Supes goes nuts. Bats got some Krypton bullets or red sun bullets, something that can stop Supes...now if Batman has that, what can Thor do. And if it's Rune King Thor I think it's a rap. The problem is these writers. Rarely do they write Thor up to his full potential. I've been over at DC for the past few days, and I have to tell you....I've seen 6 video's about Supes, and 5 of them were epic...that's right, much better than what I've seen of Thor, and I used to be a big fan of Thor. But these writers have turned me off, and I'm not even going to talk about the movies. One guy said that they should kill Thor off...I kind of agree, and if they can't write Thor on the level of who he really is...then I agree. And again I used to love Thor, but those writers...are simply terrible..
@@RobertSpiller
1. Superman is stronger yea
2. Superman is faster so how would Thor hit him?
3. Go READ the comics and not WATCH 6 videos 😭👏
@@Chillythesilly No problem. I just see these videos and that's enough for me. I
@@Chillythesilly No need to....The writers control everything, so it makes no difference. Opinions of readers doesn't make a difference. It's just crazy that Batman, who is just a very strong human has no fear of Superman, and has a plan for him...I'm just wondering why Thor can't use that advantage just like Batman. I also know that you never fight to your opponents advantage, and terms. And one more thing....Thor has more powers as well, but you know, again it's just done.
@@RobertSpiller
He doesn’t have more powers lol
@@Chillythesilly Yes he does....there's a new video that shows that he does have more powers than before. For one, he can teleport, so if he was me I would teleport to a red sun or get hold of some kryptonite. But no matter because it's up to the writer. I think at Marvel there must be some Thor haters.
Superman could also take blast from Gog who was stated have power beyond the quintessence and one shot mxy with his staff that was stated to have the emerald energy of the guardians of the universe, the cosmic power of the source and the combined magical might of Zeus and Shazam
Please give em the source of that scan I need it ☝️
@@Chillythesilly The kingdom #1 & #2
@@kawakiuzumaki5934
Thanks
Another hero vs. Superman.. yep, superman is OG.. when Saitama came in, people immediately compared him to Superman and made Saitama vs Superman battles all over the internet.. Same with Invincible and his father. If there would be another powerful Superhero created, guess who they would compare it with.. Not Thor, Not Goku, Not Vegeta nor Sentry.. But F***in SUPERMAN.. that's how OG he is.. and obviously he wins time and time again...
Depends on who is writing the stories. Superman in general is written as an Ultimate level character which all other feats are measured against. Thor is not written as a lynchpin character for an entire universe. So that's important when looking at this from a writers' standpoint and motivations on the outcomes of such battles. If Thor were to say one shot Superman, the worldbuilding ramifications would be massive and rewrite much established lore and truths of both universes. Now if we're talking Dr Manhattan, both Thor and Superman are screwed.
@@SSingh-nr8qz
Superman > Manhattan
@@Chillythesilly No way and I'm a Superman fanboy. Dr Manhattan vs Superman would be like Superman vs Batman in a real fight. The fight would be over before its started. There are many videos from other creators breaking things down this match up but basically with Manhattan can exist in the past present and future simultaneously and control all matter down to the atomic level without even breaking a sweat. Supes is fast and powerful, but he can't beat time and his atoms being disassembled, or worse, Manhattan going into the past and just erasing Superman's entire origin from the timeline from history so he doesn't even exist. The only thing stopping Manhattan is plain ole boredom. From Manhattan's perspective we are like his ant farm or reality TV show that he just enjoys observing and doesn't care to mess with to see all the outcomes. Again, Superman is someone I consider one of the ultimate characters out there (mostly because his character needs to be by design). But Dr Manhattan is just way out of Superman's reach to destroy. Stalemate maybe, but in a death match, Manhattan wouldn't even be stressed. Have you done a video on this match up yet? If not, check out a few other creators. I think you will get a kick out of the fundamental differences just from a comic nerd perspective.
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Doomsday clock PT 2
Doctor manhattan is afraid of superman.
And said he would lose to him. Gg
@@Chillythesilly That is not accurate. The Doomsday Clock was a great story. One of my favs. However Superman and Dr Manhattan never fought in that story. Their meetup was a conversation. I am guessing you are talking about where Dr Manhattan says, "I see a vision of the Superman in the future. He found me and he destroys me. Or I destroy the metaverse". Dr Manhattan is not talking about a fight. He is talking about a potential future where Dr Manhattan ceases to exist and that's why he can't see further than that in that particular timeline. This can happen if Dr Manhattan chooses to no longer exist all on his own. Keep in mind Dr Manhattan is CASUALLY rewriting the entire DC metaverse just for fun just to see if things are as hopeless in the metaverse as it is in the Watchmen universe. He is experimenting with an entire metaverse over and over again like its nothing. That is the level of power Dr Manhattan has and way more powerful than Superman. BUT one thing Superman is, and Dr Manhattan mentions, is Superman survives because he is the embodiment of hope, and Superman in this story INSPIRED Dr Manhattan. In this comic, Dr Manhattan made Superman and all of the metaverse cease to exist after speaking with Superman. He then went back and restored everything the way it was with a little tweaks. Dr Manhattan then went back to the Watchmen universe, removed the nukes, and raised a child to grow up to be just like Superman (similar upbringing and moral compass) but with Dr Manhattan's powers. This child will do for the Watchmen universe what Superman does for the Metaverse. A true north embodiment of Hope that endures in all time. On a side note, this comic series was a masterpiece in continuity with all the timelines and bending of universes.
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Yet again.
If superman causes Manhattan to not exist.
Then Superman > Manhattan
Superman would destroy Thor. It's always "this hero vs Superman". Superman is the benchmark. THE measuring stick to compare.
@@Wazza555
W
Sorry for the long reply comment I’m just saying good amount of questions
They aren't called "Thorheroes", "Asgardheroes", or "Godheroes".
Supes is strong fast has laser like eyes and can now detonate like a Nuke. Thor now has the Odin Force add that to a GodBast amongst 2 dozen powers of Mjolnir. They fought one in a cross over and Supes BARLEY won. Thor has absorbed Odins power since then and NEVER used his God Blast. Remember in another cross over Darkseids beams di not even make Galactus flinch while Thors God Blast made him run away. Popularity Supes, True Overall Power THOR!
@@markhovsepian1469
Crossover = not canon
Superman wins still
There is no way superman can defeat thor it just a bias situation when you negatives say that superman can .
@@seansmall4287
*sees video*
*comments this without watching the video*
*thinks he’s in the right*
Thor has no weaknesses
The guy with underwear on the outside does
One is a God, the other an alien 👽
Thor wins, it’s that simple
When you stop using child logic then talk
@@Chillythesilly sounds like something a child would say
STFU & if you have to speak, put some bass in your voice for crying out loud
Kid, there's alot of things you got wrong in this video, superman lifting "heavens."
Also Thor has way more than what you listed, I'd also to see Superman try to survive the godbomb (which is way BEYOND the omega-effect)
@@jayboirockshc8244
Nice use of a blatant statement without saying anything of use lol
And again saying something and expecting me to blindly accept it
Even a non holding back Superman would get obliterated by ALOT of characters.
@@abubaocear7171
Like?
@@ChillythesillyCharacters with better, superior and stronger feats, you clown.
*Superman trancends time space and matter he has power over distance dark matter the most powerful magic ever created which created DC itself power over weight temperature mind abilities wormholes time bending time and warping space touch invulnerability speed strength IQ ( PROVE ( Action comics issue 1050 / DC comics issue 29 / lord of order comics / warlord comics / sandman comics ( in these comics he was more powerful then dr manhattan and almost equally powerful then the presence he even was able to hurt the phantom stranger the very one who fought the spectre to a standstil damn the presence himself had to stop that fight ) PLUS if superman chooses to use stardips he becomes invincible geatly multi thousand on thousand on thousand times more powerful with even more abilities ( Superman's power sources is as follow :::: [ yellow stars white stars blue stars neutron stars dwarf stars magical stars plants the fire of apokalypse some matter the totality and sun gods and once he also use the construct of hell becoming more powerful [ this very guy ruled lucifers hell back in 2007 issue 666 he literally threw demons around like cardboard boxes*
*True original Superman at full power will overpower MARVEL / DC / XMEN and all characters ever created all by himself instantly*
*Everyone on that list is weak and pathetic when compared to the full true original superman*
Not really. There are characters who’d annihilate him.
@abubaocear7171
*Not a chance in hell*
There are definitely a lot of fictional characters that’d beat him, no matter how hard he tries!
@@abubaocear7171
*Not a chance in hell*
Superman is NOT “High Outer”, not even close.
He still falls Hyperversal with immeasurable speed, definitely not “irrelevant.”
@@abubaocear7171
“I’ll stay a blatant statement and hope this guy is dumb enough to believe me!
Even tho he scaled the character to that high! It’s full proof!” ☝️🤓
“Oh my god, I’m so childish! So I’m going to make those idiotic quotes coming from my fantasies because people don’t believe my bullshit scaling!!!!” 🤡 👆
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And your still doing it 😂
Not giving me an argument just saying
“A = B. Wait what do you mean I have to prove him point?”
W thank you for saying that it close but I thought the heaven feat was debunked
I don’t think it has lol
@@Chillythesilly it’s obvious that Thor just by himself no hammer is still very strong like let’s be obvious weakened Thor feat from 29 second of the video was pretty impressive if you have this much strength our punches must be super strong.
@@realmusawi
Yea Thor is strong but I think Clark wins
@@Chillythesilly i’m just saying that Thor‘s punches are super strong…. I’m just giving respect to Thor because people calls him weak because he uses his hammer… respect Thor and Superman
@@Chillythesilly who do you think would win? That was like 29 second in our video Thor no hammer vs omniman … I know this is nothing to do with our video
Thor is a better,more interesting character. But Superman as invented is too powerful for almost any other comic book character to defeat. Of course kryptonite is always lurking in the shadows. Dr.Strange or Dr.Doom would be a better match against Superman, knowing that magic is a problem for Supes.
This was a great video though I do think you should’ve put the world forger feat
I know lol
That was amped Superman who did this so maybe it cannot be considered..
@@Clurge OK then Superman can amp to win
@@CarlosGarcia91000 but I didn't get one thing like why his speed is irrelevant I see his speed like immesurable or something and it would be unfair amped Superman defeated high outer being just by one punch 😭
@@Clurge Superman actually flew faster than infinity although when he was amped, his speed felt across dimensions when he punched the world forger he destroyed his Multiverse and just to let you know the forger was not weekend
It's funny that superman fans never mention that superman has multiple weaknesses he also lost to black Adam with the help oh shazam
@@Hommiegirl525
And non-comic readers like you
Don’t realise superman has causally beaten BOTH while not trying and holding back
1:47 did Thor hold up creation all of creation or it was just a statement he cuz some fan claimed that he held the pillars of creation or something. Great video by the way
I feel like thor would last long enough to deplete superman of his solar reserves. Thor can fight for months straight while superman would need to recharge. Superman on the other hand has more speed and maneuverability. I would still put my money on superman though.
@@matth6014
Superman has a lot if not more stamina than Thor.
As he’s relative to Wonder Woman who he her and Thor ( DC’s one )
Thought in Valhalla for a thousands of years
The 9 realms are planets. Thats why earth ( midguard) is one of the 9 realms. Also not sure how the asguardians rule earth ....i mean the greeks and Egyptian gods would disagree i assume. Lol
@@scottemmons6409
Their clearly entire universe sized dimensions lol
@Chillythesilly earth is a entire dimension? Because the asguardins have never claimed to rule....say the kree empire. Which is in the same dimension and universe as earth. Lol
@@scottemmons6409
The space around
Midgaurd and Asgard *
You didn't say who won
Yea I always tend to forget to say who wins 😂
But I think with my reasoning I’d say Superman wins
LOL I agree 💯👍 great take on the matter
@@Deb-v9o
Thanks pal 😄
No problem
@@Chillythesillyimo Superman High Diff with Immesurable Speed Speed only mo....
The one who is *CALM* and *REASONABLE* person.
Story of Superman doesn't scale anywhere, it doesn't mean Superman can't lose in battle it only means he can't be removed from continuity as dc Cosmology revolves around his existence due to metaverse connection. This doesn't make him unbeatable. Thor would win
@@oluwadamilola6233
Unfortunately it kinda does. Because it works crossverse.
And it’s not his only win con
@@Chillythesilly it doesn't work cross verse as Superman legit lost to venom in a crossover,he also got knocked out by the avengers in jla avenger crossover... Anyways you can keep coping with your cringe head Canon think DC can dictate to other comic books companies
@@oluwadamilola6233
Not canon so it doesn’t count.
And that’s all your arguments gone? Wow
@@Chillythesilly marvel and DC access is canon to DC due to convergence lol.
@@oluwadamilola6233
Meta statements prove otherwise
Superman would lose, because there's Asgardian magic involved.
The Man of Steel nearly lost to He-Man on Eternia because Skeletor used magic on him.
@@JoseFigueroa-iz2on magic isn’t a weakness
For Kryptonians, it is.
Just ask Skeletor, who used it on Superman on Eternia to try to beat He-Man.
Skeletor did it in the comics.
@@JoseFigueroa-iz2on its a vulnerability, not weakness
@TimSurrealYT It's just as bad as kryptonite for Superman, regardless.
ANY magic is bad for him.
And ke isn't the ONLY Kryptonian affected by magic.
His cousin and dog are affected by it as well.
Yes, he has a dog.
His dog's name is Krypto.
@@JoseFigueroa-iz2on wOw WhO wOuLDve ThOugHt hE HaD a DoG
and no it's not as bad as kryptonite, he has multiple times outbeaten magical creatures and has a higher chance beating magical creatures than kryptonite weapons
Thor of course. This is not even a question.
@@ismailefendi5771 *watch* the video lol
Sups wins no doubt. Milnjr is not helping in this fight. Especially when superman is more than worthy of milnjr. Sups outclasses him in strength and speed alone. He is almost as fast as flash and there is no one in the marvel universe than can match flash in speed. Thors lightning is definitely not gonna touch sups. Sorry Thor but your definitely losing this fight.
Superman got beat by a guy with no powers that dresses like a bat...The god of Thunder would win. You can't take a loss like that and then say he'd beat Thor. Magic is a weakness of Superman, Thor's got it in spades, and is his physical equal. None of superman's powers are really going to effect Thor, (heat vision...Thor's relaxed in the center of the sun, frost breath...he's a viking god...) The Magic hammer if you don't have silly writers is going to wreck superman. If we really have Thor go nuts he can teleport Superman to a dimension with no yellow sun and just let him whither a way. He could teleport himself to what's left of Krypton and grab a mectric ton of kryptonite. He can exploit Superman's weaknesses, but the reverse is not true. That being said he could beat him without resorting to that. Would Thor beat Superman in a straight up fight everytime, no, but if you don't have the writers being biased and just look at the two characters and their weaknesses, Thor embodies what you would imagine the nemesis of Superman being.
@@tobyakers2936
And this is why no one takes you seriously
Thor would be fodder for mr.satan. Let alone superman
You take pics of feats without context goofy.
@@scottfordbrewer4380
Funny how I have the context lol
The honest truth is companies allowing writers to have free reign to write stupid stories. Companies play this competition game where one levels up they're characters powers levels and abilities then the other follows suet. They keep doing this back and forth till both are ridiculously over powered and BORING!
Great video chilly it would be a high difficulty match but i go with supes if it avengers thor but even king and cosmic king you can argue supes
Nice to know your opinion!
You’re feed back and your interaction is greatly appreciated!
@@ChillythesillyThor should be 1-A since, he Transcends dimensions, but alright your scaling is well not like those who say Thor is boundless lol
@@Clurge
I don’t us vs battle wiki because they blatantly can’t scale DC. It’s like dripsauce but FAR worse
@@Chillythesilly oh alr
@@Chillythesilly. A monitor said story of Superman is unstoppable and indestructible, and in the same comic the word inexorable was also used, but I don’t know how literal being unstoppable, because if it was literal, it means SOS is the most powerful thing in DC, period?
If superman loses to shazam, thor wins low difficulty
@@seant6955
Superman > Shazam lol
And u forgot about the world forger feat 😢
I know lol I didn’t rlly need it
@@Chillythesillyok w video
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7rhe maybe didn't used cz of that was the amped version of Superman...
@@Clurgecomic fans don't care about that bro
Most of the feats they used are missleading and just wanna make their characters win
@@Chillythesilly A monitor said story of Superman is unstoppable and indestructible, and in the same comic the word inexorable was also used, but I don’t know how literal being unstoppable, because if it was literal, it means SOS is the most powerful thing in DC, period?
Stop putting superman speed to this flash is faster but can't beat superman so I think it is bias also superman can't even beat Zeus and Zeus isn't that fast
@@seansmall4287
1: flash is faster yes. Superman just scales to him.
2: yes superman no diffs Zeus
tl;dr Only popularity matters in these fights and MC Hammer will never be popular enough to beat America's flying dreamsona over there.
What-
Yet Marvel is massively bigger than DC and has been for years and years. Reason... DC's horrible story writing be it comics, cartoons or movies. So how does that popularity contest go again you say?
@@wegardfjeld3789 DC has some fire Comics ngl
W video
Thor beat Superman because sups need a writer and Thor journey is a great build.
Every character needs a writer lol.
@@Chillythesilly exactly
@@Chillythesilly well said.
That’s the dumbest comment I ever read …really …
What… huh… what…?
Wow, great video
The DC put him in the top 3-5 fastest being even beating a lot of flashes not all but a few. Plus he has that heat vision plus cold breath attack that he never uses that is really powerful.
****Easy evaluation/prediction: Superman is highly susceptible to magic attacks - THOR WINS****
@@TriuneSelf4444
Magic ≠ win
Superman has beaten so many Magic users that it's not even funny anymore
@@Daverast01 that is perhaps because comics suck these days with no limitations against the greater supreme forces that are outside of the "hero". NO being should ever be stronger than the fabrics that weave the actual universe. As a result, MAN's conception of strength is unbounded.
@@TriuneSelf4444 i literally had no idea what you just wrote... I was literally just saying that just because Superman is vulnerable to Magic does not mean he's weak to it like Kryptonite he has beating magic users before and you're literally talking about fictional characters can't go above Universal is really a dumb argument when it's literally fiction it's it's not supposed to make any sense
@@Daverast01 Greetings - then let me explain the simple comment that was sent.
Magic is a form of elemental use. The elements make up the very fabrics of the universe. So, how can any one individual be stronger than that which composes such said universe? The only competitor who should win is another with stronger control over those elements.
In layman terms: Superman should lose to a good wielding magician and NOT beat 'so many that it is not funny anymore'.
While it IS fiction it is suppose to make sense in comparison to the individuals powers and within the reality of the comic. If not than it would not have the strong fan base because fans will not buy/read/know about the comics that do not make sense (would you?). They all have a baseline and guideline of it's reality to develop the characters from.
Good job on realizing they are fictional characters - your smart, bad job on realizing 'it's not suppose to make sense' (even though you read/have read the comics and care enough to comment again on them.
Wow!
If Thor threatens Louis Lane, super man will will.
If Superman attacks Asgard, i give it to Thor..
@@johngault7329
Yet both won’t happen
Thor no diffs this 8d fodder
Thor can’t even destroy a planet without his precious mallet
@@user-se7cb4ki8b superman got killed by a laser gun
@@Prominent_intellect Thor got KOed by a sniper bullet like a b***h(which he is btw)Thor has never even destroyed a planet or solar system without his precious mallet lol,At least Superman can blow up a planet with nothing more but his bare hands
Ah yes… the DC downplayer who relies on low level scalers/debaters (their literal rankings in the main debating community 😭🙏) like drip_sauce and brutality to “debunk” DC super amateurishly and you goons literally EAT IT ALL UP. “DC caps at 6D ☝️🤓” 😭😭. Over abundance of proof for infinite geometric spatial dimensions and over abundance of proof for its conceptual existence being beyond physics and concepts including that of dimensionality is ludicrous. DC > your fav verse. Cope harder
@@narrowmax7382 Bruh,You destroyed him
Thor>
@@emdi-west
Nah
Amazing Video,Brother!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Keep it up!!👍👍
Superman defeats Thor 100 times out of 100.
Haha no
Naw bro
😂
0/100
You crazy!
You people really need to get a life.
@@patrickbrowne4606
Womp womp
INCREDIBLE HULK WOULD BEAT THEM BOTH!!😂
@@jeffreymosby5351
Nah
Jeffreymosby5351. Nahh
Superman is trash
Dumb take
Thor one-shots superman like it should be
@@nelsonisc9670
Instead of just saying “u dumb!! Thor one shot Ooga booga!!!”
Prove it then. Thor can’t one shot superman. And superman wins.
If you disagree make an argument
@@Chillythesilly He already did it in a crossover
Cope
mR tHOr cAN't oNE shOT sUPeRmAN
@@nelsonisc9670
A: the crossovers aren’t canon or at ,east elseworld stories.
B: he literally didn’t. And superman won the fight. Along with beating the hulk LMFAO.
Get better arguments you butt hurt goon
@@Chillythesilly He one-shotted superman with a swing at first encounter lol
Try again
@@nelsonisc9670
And guess who won when both went all out?
Don’t tell me to try again when you can’t recall the comic lol