Learning gain staging and how to use compression properly was super helpful, I used to just slam everything up against a master limiter, and wonder why my mixes sounded bad lol. Cutting useless sub frequencies was something I just started doing a few years back too, all of these are incredibly useful advice for getting the most bang for your buck out of a song.
I tend to do a lot of this stuff but another thing I like to do to get loud mixes is to use a clipper on the master before going into a limiter, helps add that extra bit of loudness while helping maintain some dynamics that might get squashed by just using the limiter
I don't feel like people put it on the whole mix; I feel like the move is to have all your instruments on a bus separate from your vocals and parallel comp THAT.
I group my all my instrument lanes and already compress on the individual channels. Was thinking of putting a compressor on a send and sending guitars and other instruments to their individual compressor to try this idea. My mix is already loud but I think it can help make it punchy
This is a SUPER helpful video that explores this topic with a wide net. I very much appreciate it. I also love the confirmation of what I have been doing with keeping the low end mono. Controlling dynamics and cutting frequencies is also another concept I've been trying to grasp as I get better at mixing.
The mono bass thing I’m still unsure on. I don’t typically mix metal so maybe it’s more so for intense mixes such as these, but ever since I processed my bass buss in stereo, I get a thicker mix overall. I feel like the sides without some kind of low end filling those guitars with that beef, it gets a little shrilly. Take Death Cab’s sound of settling for instance, the low end in the sides is immense and it really makes the song warm overall and just pleasing to the ear. I can hear bass/low mids in the L+R more so than just straight down the middle. Many other songs I find bass filling the sides of my earbuds and it’s quite nice. Maybe not sub subs but definitely 80hz and above Something Corporate’s North has a similar vibe. So warm. The bass morphs through the sides of the speakers and just fills that space. Or is that just the feedback of the channels mixing in a console, bass bleeding over into stereo channels, etc?
Dude this is such a good video. Thank you for this golden info 😎👌. I have a limiter on my master bus but never knew to put it on the other ones. Should you still have one on the master if you have one on the other buses?
All useful tips in this video, but I truly think the only real way to get a loud and clear mix is to have a well balanced mix across the entire frequency spectrum. Your mix will never sound loud if it’s lacking low mid punch. It will never interact well with a limiter if your bass is too loud. Levelling out the frequency spectrum of your whole mix will naturally increase the perceived loudness, which in my opinion is the only thing that matters. No limiter or mastering service is going to make an unbalanced mix sound loud the way you want it to. Using a tool like Tonal Balance Control by Izotope to ensure your mix is balanced is a HUGE help in the pursuit of a loud mix. It is a game changer and for me, directly helped me achieve loud, clear mixes.
❤I keep telling people this..the secret to a loud mix is not the clipper or limiter or compression..it's is a balance frequency spectrum in the LEFT,CENTER and RIGHT channels of the mix
For harmonic content and excitement, Fab's Saturn and Waves NLS Buss can't be beat imo. And the "Magic Mastering" preset in Saturn gives it that extra gloss to make it shine. Those 2 never leave the master strip for me.
You know, at first I didn't care at all with loudness, but most people really love when it's loud. I have tons of stuff with less comp and limiters, but people really love the squashed stuff.
Great Video as always Miami, thank's a lot for the input! May I ask which drum plugin you guys used for the parallel compression exaple? Best drum sound I've heard for quite a while. Wow!
So you’re saying I should add a limiter to all my tracks even my 808 my high hats, my snares and everything? Even though Will use a limiter again when we master our track when we merge them all together at the end?
What if you're using a drum vst the boasts "mix ready" like GGD or Mixwave? Would you still parallel compression these? Can you use an ssl bus compressor instead of a limiter to take the peaks?
So a lot of it has to do with EQ, but would you say it’s better to do a pre-EQ or a post EQ with your amp sim in your chain? I’m leaning more towards post cause I know amp sims can add unwanted low end, but I’d like to hear your thoughts
Actually this is the only Audio Plugin development company that advises you to utilize whatever tools you have .. even stock plugins They advertise their plugins as tools to just make your job easier but you can still use your own tools. That's why I love JST and I buy their stuff mainly to support them for the amazing work they do 👍
If you watched any of their videos, you'd know they explain concepts rather than claim a plugin is a magic button. Of course they're going to use their own plugins, but there's no reason why you can't take a similar plugin (even a stock DAW plugin in some cases) and get similar results. Actually watching things and getting the "why" and "how" is a lot more effective than being a cynical baby.
Was waiting on the sub transition 🤣
Yes the video walkthrough of every plugin and reaping the max benefits does interest me.
Learning gain staging and how to use compression properly was super helpful, I used to just slam everything up against a master limiter, and wonder why my mixes sounded bad lol. Cutting useless sub frequencies was something I just started doing a few years back too, all of these are incredibly useful advice for getting the most bang for your buck out of a song.
I tend to do a lot of this stuff but another thing I like to do to get loud mixes is to use a clipper on the master before going into a limiter, helps add that extra bit of loudness while helping maintain some dynamics that might get squashed by just using the limiter
I use Ozone 10 Maximizer for that because it has clipper right before limiter. It sounds pretty clean imo
@@lordberly nice I don’t have Ozone but currently using the clipper in JST Maximizer before going into Sonible Smart:Limit
It would be cool to see all of this, or even an entire mix, done only with JST plugins. It would be handy for those of us who use mostly JST plugins.
Parallel Compression on the whole mix!? That's psychotic and I can't wait to try it!
I don't feel like people put it on the whole mix; I feel like the move is to have all your instruments on a bus separate from your vocals and parallel comp THAT.
I group my all my instrument lanes and already compress on the individual channels. Was thinking of putting a compressor on a send and sending guitars and other instruments to their individual compressor to try this idea. My mix is already loud but I think it can help make it punchy
This is a SUPER helpful video that explores this topic with a wide net. I very much appreciate it. I also love the confirmation of what I have been doing with keeping the low end mono. Controlling dynamics and cutting frequencies is also another concept I've been trying to grasp as I get better at mixing.
The mono bass thing I’m still unsure on. I don’t typically mix metal so maybe it’s more so for intense mixes such as these, but ever since I processed my bass buss in stereo, I get a thicker mix overall. I feel like the sides without some kind of low end filling those guitars with that beef, it gets a little shrilly.
Take Death Cab’s sound of settling for instance, the low end in the sides is immense and it really makes the song warm overall and just pleasing to the ear. I can hear bass/low mids in the L+R more so than just straight down the middle. Many other songs I find bass filling the sides of my earbuds and it’s quite nice. Maybe not sub subs but definitely 80hz and above
Something Corporate’s North has a similar vibe. So warm. The bass morphs through the sides of the speakers and just fills that space.
Or is that just the feedback of the channels mixing in a console, bass bleeding over into stereo channels, etc?
I work with mostly natural drums and learning to use a limiter on my drum bus was huge for my mixes.
yes! and saturation!
Excellent tips
Dude this is such a good video. Thank you for this golden info 😎👌. I have a limiter on my master bus but never knew to put it on the other ones. Should you still have one on the master if you have one on the other buses?
All useful tips in this video, but I truly think the only real way to get a loud and clear mix is to have a well balanced mix across the entire frequency spectrum. Your mix will never sound loud if it’s lacking low mid punch. It will never interact well with a limiter if your bass is too loud. Levelling out the frequency spectrum of your whole mix will naturally increase the perceived loudness, which in my opinion is the only thing that matters. No limiter or mastering service is going to make an unbalanced mix sound loud the way you want it to. Using a tool like Tonal Balance Control by Izotope to ensure your mix is balanced is a HUGE help in the pursuit of a loud mix. It is a game changer and for me, directly helped me achieve loud, clear mixes.
❤I keep telling people this..the secret to a loud mix is not the clipper or limiter or compression..it's is a balance frequency spectrum in the LEFT,CENTER and RIGHT channels of the mix
For harmonic content and excitement, Fab's Saturn and Waves NLS Buss can't be beat imo. And the "Magic Mastering" preset in Saturn gives it that extra gloss to make it shine. Those 2 never leave the master strip for me.
I need to separate and make a low sound
louder that is being carried by the louder sound I'd like to cancel is this possible?
You know, at first I didn't care at all with loudness, but most people really love when it's loud. I have tons of stuff with less comp and limiters, but people really love the squashed stuff.
beautifull 🎉
Could you do a video showing examples of limiting busses in the mix. Thanks
Pro Reaper? Reaper Tools? ReaTools? thanks for the tips Miami great video as always 🙌
Great Video as always Miami, thank's a lot for the input! May I ask which drum plugin you guys used for the parallel compression exaple? Best drum sound I've heard for quite a while. Wow!
So you’re saying I should add a limiter to all my tracks even my 808 my high hats, my snares and everything? Even though Will use a limiter again when we master our track when we merge them all together at the end?
What is the song on in the last clip?
Thanks man!!
What if you're using a drum vst the boasts "mix ready" like GGD or Mixwave? Would you still parallel compression these? Can you use an ssl bus compressor instead of a limiter to take the peaks?
I’d still parallel compress
-Miami
@@joeymusicthank you.
Also, when you’re saying limiter, you mean the limiter not the compressor, right? 😊
So a lot of it has to do with EQ, but would you say it’s better to do a pre-EQ or a post EQ with your amp sim in your chain? I’m leaning more towards post cause I know amp sims can add unwanted low end, but I’d like to hear your thoughts
Both.
Pre-eq to shape going into the amp, and post to polish the end result.
@@StoriesOfSolitude yeah. I usually do an EQ before in my effects chain in my amp sim and run a separate EQ plugin in the post
"warmth"
9:00 It's so hard to hear these drums and not immediately start singing/screaming in a fake British accent.
" keys and any other EXTRANEOUS parts..." If it's 'extraneous' why don't you mute it?
Let me guess the secret: buy a JST plugin.
Actually this is the only Audio Plugin development company that advises you to utilize whatever tools you have .. even stock plugins
They advertise their plugins as tools to just make your job easier but you can still use your own tools.
That's why I love JST and I buy their stuff mainly to support them for the amazing work they do 👍
If you watched any of their videos, you'd know they explain concepts rather than claim a plugin is a magic button. Of course they're going to use their own plugins, but there's no reason why you can't take a similar plugin (even a stock DAW plugin in some cases) and get similar results. Actually watching things and getting the "why" and "how" is a lot more effective than being a cynical baby.
I mean they're giving out free advice, and everyone knows there's no one must own plugin.
I’ve emailed captain obvious your resume.
How dare they promote their own products in their videos 😡