Guys, if you enjoyed this video (and especially if you saw what happened at the end from last time) could pleas do me a favor and comment + share this with a shorts creator who needs to see this? I am curious if we will randomly flatline our view traction again like last time... thx all 🙏
💯 sure thing mann. need your advice though, recently started a shorts channel 6 days ago and i’m considering making it my main channel for this year & next year. what’s your honest advice for me putting most of my attention on growing the shorts channel ? it’ll only be for shorts. @TRW_VIKING .
is it this channel? or a brand new one? i think as long as you go in with reasonable expectations and thats your goal, it can be a good investment of time and energy @@wickdmagician
Thanks so much for putting my in the video bro. I recently started a new RUclips channel for long form only this time, and I am already seeing better views on it! I think it’s definitely the wave for shorts creators moving onto long form content.
This is my exact experience.I have now started focusing only on long form. I think what you describe is something youtube can't do anything about. You just have to decide what kind of creator you want to be and stick to it. I think shorts are really only good as trailers for your long form where it is intentionally incomplete so that only people who care about the full video end up subscribing
how did u get out of it I'm experiencing they exact same thing where my videos ctr is around 10% but my avd is trash because a big chunk of my subs came from my shorts what do i do?
486 views on your last long form? And you will get people telling you "its your thumbnail" or "the content" bla bla bla. nope...RUclips is broken. 100%
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Hey bro! Thanks for putting me in the video and addressing this! I ended up creating this channel for long-form and the views are already better than my shorts channel with 1 million subs, and am now seeing good growth in the last few days! I totally think everything you said in this video is totally viable!
Also, is there any shot I could ask you to comment from your other account as well? Also, if you want I would be down to post this (your long form account ^^) on my community tab as a case study, should get ya some new viewers too. Lmk dude!
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECTdude it’s all good with me! Feel free to use this channel as a case study, cause that’s basically what it is to me haha. Seems to be working though! I’ll comment the same thing on my other account if that’s what you want?
I think shorts are a good way of get a lot of subscribers in a short period of time but after you get 1k to 10k subscribers you should now focus on RUclips videos with 10 minute length but if you are a beginner shorts ar a good way to get subs
Straight to the point, no shorts along with long form videos. you really helped me, I upload shorts and long form but my long form is not grabbing many views. I only do shorts for the subscribers, but I enjoy making long form videos much more! so from now on no more shorts and focus on long form videos! I literally wanted to upload a short today until I saw this video. Thanks for helping man! This channel is better than Vidiq and Tubebudy because I watched them so much for tips but nothing helped, but now I have seen one video of yours and I understand it immediately! Thanks for helping me out dude!
you gotta do what RWJ does. He makes shorts that are 1-2 mins longer then a short, so he uploads two versions and has the short version link to the longer video. It adds alot of clicks through your channel and gives you extra eyes. You could easily put long form content in the middle of all this and it would probably work great.
I had been vaciliating between investing in Short or long form content. You're the third content creator I've heard saying to pick one and stick with it. This video helped me to confirm my decision to stick with long format. Thank you for the helpful video! I really appreciate it.
I was planning to start as Shorts Creator but recently realized I'll just push through with long form, but I'm still considering Shorts. Now you're video has helped me decide. I'll stick with long form first. I only have myself and don't have my own video editors and scriptwriters so I should be mindful of where it's best to put my energy. Thank you for informing us!
True.... shorts creating is very tempting but I realize at the end of the day long form still has geniually better quality. I think shorts is good to semi or even a little bit promote your long form content. It helps I think.
Thanks so much. This is so important and I did not know about it! The video that you showed in the beginning was the exact video I had watched and believed him.
Great honest video, I think the problem is the RUclips gurus make good money if they make a longform video about how to make money with shorts. That's why i respect your channel you show the real behind the scenes.
The big RUclips gurus don’t mention this because they _need_ people to struggle with building their channel. That’s the only way they have an audience, get people to use their tools, etc.
@crimetruth376 are you sure I was about to dedicate serious time into this I can't handle my soul crushing Job anymore. I'm tech savvy I started using computers in the 90's
@@elvoandro7087 10 million shorts views only gets you a few bucks. If you find a niche that’s easy to crank out lots of shorts in, then give it a try. Otherwise it’s not worth it.
@@elvoandro7087 That's the problem, from what I'm seeing shorts are best used to amplify your main long format channel. You can make money but don't think it compares to long term format money
Started one RUclips shorts channel where I was only resharing my instagram posts. After about a year it was making 1k a month, and that’s without even trying. So, it might not be as good as ling form, but considering you spend less time making a short, it’s worth it
Please get this guy to a million subs atleast. There are some who dont even deserve it, this channel deserves more subs, views and attention. So honest and actually putting in the work and showing us. I love this channel so much!
This is my problem with my channel. Grew my channel from shorts, but have always aimed to focus on long form content. 100k subs yet my long form videos barely scratch 1k. I know it’s a journey, but now I know to refocus on the long form. Thank you!
how did u get out of it I'm experiencing they exact same thing where my videos ctr is around 10% but my avd is trash because a big chunk of my subs came from my shorts what do i do?
Thank you so much for this video. I have my own long form channel that has just recently become monetised. I was contemplating doing shorts to build the audience but had those concerns regarding the actual audience it was targeting. With limited time to spend on the channel I'm so glad I watched this before sinking hours into making shorts
I just started my first channel and I’m trying to grow it using shorts only. I still have a lot to learn and I understand it will be a long journey. So thank you for the great tips!
2 week DEEP into my RUclips journey! thank you for the heads up as I was doing a bit of both on my channel may pick and choose at this point! thanks again!
I have been video creator for a few years and unfortunately I learned everything you said through experience. You are completely right in what you say. I have 1 advice and 1 suggestion. First, make a choice, either share only long videos or share short videos. If it is suitable for you to be successful and earn high income over a long period of time, share long videos. If you want quick success but earning huge income is not important to you, share short videos. But there is also an advantage to sharing short videos. Your channel grows fast, you can become famous fast. It's hard to grow that fast with long videos. I recommend you make the choice from the beginning. And the 'short videos with ai' videos you see on the internet are nonsense. Only a lucky few channels succeeded, but they had tried at least 10-20 different channels, only 1 channel was successful. Trust this video.
Another observation: RUclips algorithm understands 'ai sounds and content' and doesn't really support it. You may have short successes at first, but then it all goes away.
@@McMakersStation That's great! EM do you use copyrighted music in your videos? Because I'm still trying to understand how I'm use them without having to get striked
It is the same as that saying when you try to impress everyone you impress no one. It is better to choose what route you want your channel to go in the future because business is a long-term game. I knew this problem already when I checked tons of big RUclipsrs with millions of subscribers who got those numbers from Shorts then I looked at their long-form videos with the same views as small RUclipsrs.
Do RUclips shorts to increase sub count fast. It took me 2 years to get to 56k subs. My short term is to get to 100k in April 2024 and the silver play button.
Wow… that’s exactly my problem! I get most of my subs from shorts but my focus is my long form videos… I’m gonna have to do some serious thinking on this one. Thanks for sharing.
When I made my reaction channel I made sure to mainly stick to long form content. I was aware that the RUclips algorithm would mess up if I were to do both shorts and long form at once. Now after 2 months of long form content I am posting the clips into my shorts and they are generating okay enough views. It still depends on your niche but Start off with long form, then switch to shorts..
I’m just about to start a Shorts channel and I was wondering to upload long form content as well, a bunch of thanks for sharing literally the most useful and legit info here. The video is really educational. Thanks for saving me ❤
Great video and great points! One minor correction is that MrBeast didn't "give up" on posting shorts, he just has an entire separate channel dedicated to them, so that the subscribers with shorter attention spans are all localized onto one channel.
This is something truly precious. I had to quit my youtube channel and start a new channel because I was posting short videos and long videos. Hope this video will help more people ❤❤❤
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT I decided to create 2 channels, one for short videos and one for long videos. My new short video channel is this account and it operates quite well, while the long video channel is not yet recommended by RUclips to viewers. Hopefully everything will be running smoothly in the next few weeks .
like yh, thats what's stoping me from make videos for one of my new channel, is just to learn this type of editing method thats all. if i can be good like this, my first video can even blow up my channel
I went back and forth on shorts and ultimately decided that if I was gonna upload shorts to my main channel, it was gonna be no more then 2 a week. So 2 shorts along with 5 longform videos. And so far it seems to work with what I want to happen with my channel. Mind you I'm well past the point of trying to get monetized so I don't exactly have to use them for much else other then possibly promoting the long form videos. Even then I'm gonna bank on that strategy working.
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT I gained like 2500+ subscribers from shorts. Most of my subscribers came from Long Form videos. I've been doing this for 10 years so not too surprising that I've gotten most of my subs from Long Form videos.
This is 100% true. I was making shorts and long form content and I was getting hundreds of thousands of views on my shorts and maybe 1-2k on my long form. I ended up deleting all of the long form videos and turned it into a shorts channel only. Luckily I did this at about 500 subs, so I don't think the damage was done too much. I'm just worried about getting monetized at this point. I see a lot of channels in my niche that aren't monetized and I'm dying to know why. One of them even has over 3 million subs.
Thanks for sharing this information, very straight forward and makes perfect sense. Mixing shorts and long content does cause problems and it confuses your audience. Appreciate you sharing this! 💯
i think this can be true if you have a faceless channel .however I have seen ppl have good views on shorts and long form if it all about them. personally i have had the split audience problem even with long form. i have had differnt types of long form videos blow up at differnt times. now im kinda confused on who follows me and why. so a successful video can be a bit of a crap shoot hahah.
This was really good information. Shorts have been hit or miss for me since I started my channel last month. Sometimes they would get 5000 views sometimes they would sit at 0 or less than 100 and then for some reason everything stops on my channel for a day or two, like no views, subs whatever. Like the algorithm is broken and thinks I'm spam for a few days I don't know, makes no sense. I'm really glad I came across this video, now I don't have to worry about making shorts anymore, I'll focus on my longer videos (which are only a few minutes anyway lol) but it will save me some time.
I really messed up 😂 I focused to much on shorts . I should have started a long form channel before I started short form but I wanted to see quick growth :/
I will RUclips some credit and mention that shorts lately have now allowed for shorts to be linked directly to any related video of yours which includes your long form videos. But I’m going to be honest to say I have both long form and short form vids on my channel and the results are always inconsistent. I’m debating making less shorts per month and stick to more long form videos. Ah well
I’m proof he’s right. I get over 12 million views per month easy with shorts, sometimes 20 million. But my long form is useless. Maybe it’s simply not good enough which is totally possible, I’m not great at this stuff but I’ve seen a lot worse videos getting more views without having shorts on their channels. I’ve decided to abandon long form and going to start going after sponsors with shorts, affiliate marketing and reviews in short form as well as continuing my everyday stuff.
I have a shorts only channel too and it's growing consistently. I've thought about incorporating affiliate marketing. How are you planning on doing that? I believe YT is planning to roll this feature out soon though
@@sanon2480 I simply promote something from Amazon. I have tons of options, dog items are endless so it’s relatively easy for me. I’m also an Amazon influencer so I’ll direct people to the Amazon link in my bio where they will find the product in the video.
Make shorts FROM your long form content and your audience will view your long form content if they found the short interesting. You can't expect to retain the audience you gained from shorts about separate topics than your long form content.
I totally agree with you on this...most of the few subscribers I've got are from shorts as such when i post long form they dont watch and i end up each time with no views. Now I am a bit confused as to what path to go...
Hey I've got an idea, start uploading shorts and grab some audience, start making long videos but initially make them only 2-4 minutes as your audience attention span is less. And gradually increase video length Will this work ????
Wow, really mind blowing. At first, when I starting my channel, I exactly thinking like this. Get subs from shorts, get monetized and back to long form video. Damn
That’s true. One thing to mitigate that would be to edit the long form content to show it to non subscribers first. Essentially getting two types of audiences pretty much until RUclips tweak that. 🤷♂️
I can see why this applies every time to face-less channels, repurposed, edited content etc but I follow many creators in lifestyle/influencer niches that get hundreds of thousands on both types of their content, which they post on the same account. I think if people want to follow YOU then they're most likely to watch both forms. Especially if you're posting different things for shorts and not just taking clips of your long form videos. But there isn't really a shortcut to getting your audience to get to that point so you just have to put in the traditional work. Also, when no one knows you, long form videos have more views that come from search where shorts are usually just something that shows up while you're scrolling. That's also why your niche may not have done well with long form, because I would rather spend that time watching something from a more "authentic" or "original" source if that makes sense rather than through someone's editing style or commentary. Mr.beast is an outlier in everything and I'm sure he would have seen more views if he didn't switch to a separate account for shorts after only 31 uploads. Regardless, he didn't have a need for eyes on him when he started shorts like most small creators do so he may have had a different approach if he was in the same boat as them. Anyways, great videos. they always get me thinking about different factors to consider.
We had a huge boost in subs when we had a short have 13m views, our subs increased by 40%, i think youtube is paying people to make shorts with subs, because they dont make enough revenue on shorts to pay money.. larry
I'll tell you my idea and maybe you'll follow along. I am planning on starting a gaming channel with long form content and will be using shorts to advertise it. However, I won't be having both yt shorts and long form content on the same channel. I'll make a sub channel for yt shorts to filter yt shorts subscribers. I only want those that actually like my long form videos to sub on the main channel. RUclips has a feature on shorts now where anyone can link their long form videos to their shorts so this could help a lot as well.
I'm growing my shorts and was thinking of making my first long form as I'm getting a little better at editing... this was a risk I was going to take but my channel usually does 30 seconds or more on shorts and my long for vids starting out would be a little over a minute. Then progress to to 2 mins. I guess I'll see how this goes.
Great video brother, I honestly think RUclips shorts is a separate business than regular RUclips content. Because they don't let you link your longer videos in the description, they do not want Short viewers to switch to longer content on RUclips because they pay so little money out for shorts, they profit way more from the shorts. Thanks for sharing.
This makes a lot of sense. I had 5K subscribers with long form content, and am at around 28K thanks to shorts. When I put long form videos out there, which take me 30 minutes to an hour of time per minute of content to make, they actually get less views than when I JUST made long form content, even though I have improved things like camera, sound, and editing. Every short is guaranteed to make 5-10K views with a few going over 100K and a couple over a million views, and I have been seeing around $1.25/10K views. This has started to discourage me from making long form content especially when I can film two months worth of shorts in an afternoon. A huge downside is that only going surface level like I do in shorts instead of taking a deep, well studied dive as I do for long videos has made me less knowledgeable about my subject.
That is good advice. Before I started my channel, I had planned on posting both short and long videos. However, a friend on Facebook informed me that both type of audiences come to RUclips with different mentalities. They suggested sticking to one, so I opted for posting shorts. On that, I was thrilled until last week when four of my videos consecutively surpassed 1K views. However, suddenly, the views came to a complete halt. Impressions or "Shown in feed" are practically at 0, and even my 70 subscribers are not seeing my shorts in their feed. This is disheartening because I don't understand why this happened. The average view duration and "Viewed vs Swiped away" were both over 50% on most of my shorts. So, why did RUclips suddenly stop promoting them? I don't want to give up, but after four failed attempts to get views, I am seriously contemplating quitting :(
Yeah this happened to me. I was getting 2k-2.5k views and all a sudden would get like 100 or a few hundred. I kept going now I am back to 1.5k or 2k. I think the algorithm recently changed. But I too made some changes to my shorts. Managed to get my retention rate from around 55% to 90% in my last few videos. Now I just need to work on that viewed vs swipe rate lol. But yeah just keep going and see where you can improve.
thanks a LOT!!! I am just starting out and was making the same mistake, long form 19 views and shorts 100+ stopping shorts cuz my niche NEEDS long form viewers
Going through this now. Shorts are doing much better than my long-form. Bulk of my views and subscribers are from Shorts. Thinking once i hit 1k subs, I solely focus on long-form. CTR has been averaging less than 3%. Any advice?
Shorts still work really great for me on my second channel. I mean, I am just small content creator and I work really hard (I also use a little bit of fame ster, but that's a necessity nowadays). I just give all my videos small initial boost, and that caused them to spread literally everywhere, bringing more and more organic views day after day.
Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge. Like many of the comments here, I am contemplating what route to take. This video has shed some much needed light on my plans.
All of this is 100% true. I want to mainly earn from long form but getting the first 1000 subs was taking me longer than I wanted so I made some shorts and one went viral (2.6 million views and 20,000 subs as a result) , Bad new is, as of today, I'm still at 3800 public watch hours so my channel, 20K subs strong isn't making a dime yet. Fortunately I do have one long form video that has picked up speed (500-600 views per day) and will get me the watch hours needed within a week or two from now. An no, my 20k subs from that viral short is not getting me any long form views.
Absolutely true Bro. Because when I started youtube shorts and one of videos got 100 views nearly in 1 month. I thought they also watch long form content, but I was wrong. And I can't believe that youtube algo is dumb enough to believe that when short content subscribers don't view long form content, the content in channel sucks and it did not recommend anything to new users. Thanks for major tip bro. Appreciate it
This is the insane part of any business, without the people there is no views and money, so it’s like what are people into and we gotta give them what they want.
oh my gosh thanks bro. i was thinking to get my subscribers and views from shorts then switch to long form content when i was monetized but now ik. thx ur a big help!!
I had the same plan for my art channel and discovered the same thing you did. After I stopped posting shorts did my channel start to take off. One or the other, NOT both.
Guys, if you enjoyed this video (and especially if you saw what happened at the end from last time) could pleas do me a favor and comment + share this with a shorts creator who needs to see this? I am curious if we will randomly flatline our view traction again like last time... thx all 🙏
💯 sure thing mann. need your advice though, recently started a shorts channel 6 days ago and i’m considering making it my main channel for this year & next year.
what’s your honest advice for me putting most of my attention on growing the shorts channel ? it’ll only be for shorts.
@TRW_VIKING .
been subbed since day 1, your yt knowledge helps me a lot w my editing. 🫡
is it this channel? or a brand new one? i think as long as you go in with reasonable expectations and thats your goal, it can be a good investment of time and energy @@wickdmagician
This is exactly my problem.
And I am not even monetized
I was happy getting 100k only for me to figure that it's all useless
Thanks so much for putting my in the video bro. I recently started a new RUclips channel for long form only this time, and I am already seeing better views on it! I think it’s definitely the wave for shorts creators moving onto long form content.
You’re a G , consider me a friend man. Feel free to hmu anytime via email digitalincomeproject11@gmail.com
Yo harrison I watch your short content so tell me how is your new channel named so I can watch.
Whats up Harrison, love your content.
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W job bro
This is my exact experience.I have now started focusing only on long form. I think what you describe is something youtube can't do anything about. You just have to decide what kind of creator you want to be and stick to it. I think shorts are really only good as trailers for your long form where it is intentionally incomplete so that only people who care about the full video end up subscribing
how did u get out of it I'm experiencing they exact same thing where my videos ctr is around 10% but my avd is trash because a big chunk of my subs came from my shorts what do i do?
Truth is that yt is less focused on helping people growing audiences and more focused on binge watching....there's a big difference .
this is valid thanks for adding 🙌
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Actual facts bro I literally have no subs and like 14 videos it is so hard to grow on yt
Thanks for being honest and saying what so many of the gurus refuse to tell people.
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Agree💯
what hit me is when he said even Mr beast gave up on shorts content n I'm like "Wait a minute" They already knew this?
thats because the only thing the gurus care about is promoting their course lol
so its not worth it because shorts dont make that much money anyways?
He's right I just upload long form videos for fun these days. Wish I knew all this back then
bro thats crazy
dont say say you wish this or that, just be glad you’re able to learn about this now instead of never
Holy shit, you're right. Over a million subs yet your long form videos don't come anywhere close. That's crazy.
486 views on your last long form? And you will get people telling you "its your thumbnail" or "the content" bla bla bla. nope...RUclips is broken. 100%
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I mean, thanks bro
Bro... Thanks you so much ❤
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Hey bro! Thanks for putting me in the video and addressing this! I ended up creating this channel for long-form and the views are already better than my shorts channel with 1 million subs, and am now seeing good growth in the last few days! I totally think everything you said in this video is totally viable!
Dude thank you for commenting again my G! Stoked you found success with this pivot
Also, is there any shot I could ask you to comment from your other account as well? Also, if you want I would be down to post this (your long form account ^^) on my community tab as a case study, should get ya some new viewers too.
Lmk dude!
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECTdude it’s all good with me! Feel free to use this channel as a case study, cause that’s basically what it is to me haha. Seems to be working though! I’ll comment the same thing on my other account if that’s what you want?
I think shorts are a good way of get a lot of subscribers in a short period of time but after you get 1k to 10k subscribers you should now focus on RUclips videos with 10 minute length but if you are a beginner shorts ar a good way to get subs
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Mr Beast kept posting shorts on his main channel, the last one a few days ago, its just that he posts like 2 a month, same with his second channel.
Straight to the point, no shorts along with long form videos. you really helped me, I upload shorts and long form but my long form is not grabbing many views. I only do shorts for the subscribers, but I enjoy making long form videos much more! so from now on no more shorts and focus on long form videos! I literally wanted to upload a short today until I saw this video. Thanks for helping man! This channel is better than Vidiq and Tubebudy because I watched them so much for tips but nothing helped, but now I have seen one video of yours and I understand it immediately! Thanks for helping me out dude!
wow, huge honor! thank you for saying that :)
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you gotta do what RWJ does. He makes shorts that are 1-2 mins longer then a short, so he uploads two versions and has the short version link to the longer video. It adds alot of clicks through your channel and gives you extra eyes. You could easily put long form content in the middle of all this and it would probably work great.
good idea!
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yup this is what scares me about short, I think the best way to make use of shorts is has to be separated channel.
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Thankyouuu. I've started gradually transitioning from creating short-form to long-form videos.
Thank you for your honesty. This helps a lot of folks.
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I had been vaciliating between investing in Short or long form content. You're the third content creator I've heard saying to pick one and stick with it. This video helped me to confirm my decision to stick with long format. Thank you for the helpful video! I really appreciate it.
I was planning to start as Shorts Creator but recently realized I'll just push through with long form, but I'm still considering Shorts. Now you're video has helped me decide. I'll stick with long form first. I only have myself and don't have my own video editors and scriptwriters so I should be mindful of where it's best to put my energy. Thank you for informing us!
Agreed
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True.... shorts creating is very tempting but I realize at the end of the day long form still has geniually better quality. I think shorts is good to semi or even a little bit promote your long form content. It helps I think.
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@@abtbro but if ur alone and it's an energy thing. Long formats are always better I believe
Thanks so much. This is so important and I did not know about it! The video that you showed in the beginning was the exact video I had watched and believed him.
Great honest video, I think the problem is the RUclips gurus make good money if they make a longform video about how to make money with shorts.
That's why i respect your channel you show the real behind the scenes.
Thanks G 🫡 stay tuned for more like this
The big RUclips gurus don’t mention this because they _need_ people to struggle with building their channel. That’s the only way they have an audience, get people to use their tools, etc.
He's only bashing shorts because his channel failed. It's plenty of people making life-changing money off shorts.
@crimetruth376 are you sure I was about to dedicate serious time into this I can't handle my soul crushing Job anymore. I'm tech savvy I started using computers in the 90's
@@elvoandro7087 10 million shorts views only gets you a few bucks. If you find a niche that’s easy to crank out lots of shorts in, then give it a try. Otherwise it’s not worth it.
@@elvoandro7087 That's the problem, from what I'm seeing shorts are best used to amplify your main long format channel. You can make money but don't think it compares to long term format money
That's the sad thing. There's a youtuber business of youtubers
Solid information. The craziest part is the people pushing us to create better shorts barely make them. Keep up the good work.
100 , thx G will do
Started one RUclips shorts channel where I was only resharing my instagram posts. After about a year it was making 1k a month, and that’s without even trying. So, it might not be as good as ling form, but considering you spend less time making a short, it’s worth it
Please get this guy to a million subs atleast. There are some who dont even deserve it, this channel deserves more subs, views and attention. So honest and actually putting in the work and showing us. I love this channel so much!
Wow thank you so much 🙏🏽 huge compliment
What about animations?
dude, why'd you not use full stops? Your sentence is difficult to understand?@@teamvopi
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@@happycorn3r if you wanna help me too, that'd be awesome!
This is my problem with my channel. Grew my channel from shorts, but have always aimed to focus on long form content. 100k subs yet my long form videos barely scratch 1k. I know it’s a journey, but now I know to refocus on the long form. Thank you!
how did u get out of it I'm experiencing they exact same thing where my videos ctr is around 10% but my avd is trash because a big chunk of my subs came from my shorts what do i do?
The signals that RUclips takes to decide what's a good or a bad video lack context and requires a massive, surgical update. It's outdated.
Thank you so much for this video. I have my own long form channel that has just recently become monetised. I was contemplating doing shorts to build the audience but had those concerns regarding the actual audience it was targeting.
With limited time to spend on the channel I'm so glad I watched this before sinking hours into making shorts
Bro editing is amazing ,this much hardwork is needed to get success on youtube
Yes indeed. Editing is the Hell Part 😂. And i know that
I just started my first channel and I’m trying to grow it using shorts only. I still have a lot to learn and I understand it will be a long journey. So thank you for the great tips!
For any RUclipsr struggling, we shall all get there
It's the best to keep long form and short form channels seperate, got it!
You're right, I have 2 shorts channels and they don't do well, it's the long form thats important, thanks once again
Can you link your short form content?
2 week DEEP into my RUclips journey! thank you for the heads up as I was doing a bit of both on my channel may pick and choose at this point! thanks again!
I have been video creator for a few years and unfortunately I learned everything you said through experience. You are completely right in what you say. I have 1 advice and 1 suggestion. First, make a choice, either share only long videos or share short videos. If it is suitable for you to be successful and earn high income over a long period of time, share long videos. If you want quick success but earning huge income is not important to you, share short videos. But there is also an advantage to sharing short videos. Your channel grows fast, you can become famous fast. It's hard to grow that fast with long videos. I recommend you make the choice from the beginning. And the 'short videos with ai' videos you see on the internet are nonsense. Only a lucky few channels succeeded, but they had tried at least 10-20 different channels, only 1 channel was successful. Trust this video.
Another observation: RUclips algorithm understands 'ai sounds and content' and doesn't really support it. You may have short successes at first, but then it all goes away.
thanks for saying that :)
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT thank you for this video 😊
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECTso do make short video secure thé bag ? Atleast 1k à mouth
does it work ?
@@vavadadeur150
Your stuff is legit man, even educating a RUclips boomer like me. Such a different platform compared to what it was 5-6 years ago.
Thx G
Shorts are a good way to make money if you get millions of views.
I completely agree
I think it depends on how invested your audience is to you
Before they go watching your long form content
1 million views = 3000 INR
@@Buck15 all of the money I make is from shorts
@@Uiosrtk $5,000
@@McMakersStation That's great!
EM do you use copyrighted music in your videos?
Because I'm still trying to understand how I'm use them without having to get striked
Totally agree. Recently I removed all shorts from my channel as it completely destroyed my channel. Only long form from now onwards.
It is the same as that saying when you try to impress everyone you impress no one. It is better to choose what route you want your channel to go in the future because business is a long-term game. I knew this problem already when I checked tons of big RUclipsrs with millions of subscribers who got those numbers from Shorts then I looked at their long-form videos with the same views as small RUclipsrs.
Making sense, good video. Thanks!
Do RUclips shorts to increase sub count fast. It took me 2 years to get to 56k subs. My short term is to get to 100k in April 2024 and the silver play button.
Wow… that’s exactly my problem! I get most of my subs from shorts but my focus is my long form videos… I’m gonna have to do some serious thinking on this one. Thanks for sharing.
When I made my reaction channel I made sure to mainly stick to long form content. I was aware that the RUclips algorithm would mess up if I were to do both shorts and long form at once. Now after 2 months of long form content I am posting the clips into my shorts and they are generating okay enough views. It still depends on your niche but Start off with long form, then switch to shorts..
what percent do you think subbed from long form vs short?
I’d say well over 80% (edited 82%)
I like this comment, that's smart
This was HUGE sauce! I was building momentum off shorts and after seeing this my stats makes sense.
I’m still gonna do shorts lol
Me too.
But it's better to focus on one at the beginning so that you can put out your best and get monetized quickly 😊
I’m just about to start a Shorts channel and I was wondering to upload long form content as well, a bunch of thanks for sharing literally the most useful and legit info here. The video is really educational. Thanks for saving me ❤
Great video and great points! One minor correction is that MrBeast didn't "give up" on posting shorts, he just has an entire separate channel dedicated to them, so that the subscribers with shorter attention spans are all localized onto one channel.
I am only gonna say this, editing in this video is next level 🤩
This is something truly precious. I had to quit my youtube channel and start a new channel because I was posting short videos and long videos. Hope this video will help more people ❤❤❤
Wow, how’s the new one doing??
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT I decided to create 2 channels, one for short videos and one for long videos. My new short video channel is this account and it operates quite well, while the long video channel is not yet recommended by RUclips to viewers. Hopefully everything will be running smoothly in the next few weeks .
Great editing, want learn how to edit like you
like yh, thats what's stoping me from make videos for one of my new channel, is just to learn this type of editing method thats all. if i can be good like this, my first video can even blow up my channel
I went back and forth on shorts and ultimately decided that if I was gonna upload shorts to my main channel, it was gonna be no more then 2 a week. So 2 shorts along with 5 longform videos. And so far it seems to work with what I want to happen with my channel. Mind you I'm well past the point of trying to get monetized so I don't exactly have to use them for much else other then possibly promoting the long form videos. Even then I'm gonna bank on that strategy working.
hey thanks for adding this! how many subs did you start with when you began posting shorts? or was this strategy used from inception?
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT I gained like 2500+ subscribers from shorts. Most of my subscribers came from Long Form videos. I've been doing this for 10 years so not too surprising that I've gotten most of my subs from Long Form videos.
Wow, thanks for this information. Nobody really talks about this for some reason
This is 100% true. I was making shorts and long form content and I was getting hundreds of thousands of views on my shorts and maybe 1-2k on my long form. I ended up deleting all of the long form videos and turned it into a shorts channel only. Luckily I did this at about 500 subs, so I don't think the damage was done too much. I'm just worried about getting monetized at this point. I see a lot of channels in my niche that aren't monetized and I'm dying to know why. One of them even has over 3 million subs.
what kind of content is it? hi #DIPfam btw haha
Problem is people watching shorts do not comment for the most part, nor do they read the video description
Thanks for sharing this information, very straight forward and makes perfect sense. Mixing shorts and long content does cause problems and it confuses your audience. Appreciate you sharing this! 💯
i think this can be true if you have a faceless channel .however I have seen ppl have good views on shorts and long form if it all about them. personally i have had the split audience problem even with long form. i have had differnt types of long form videos blow up at differnt times. now im kinda confused on who follows me and why. so a successful video can be a bit of a crap shoot hahah.
This was really good information. Shorts have been hit or miss for me since I started my channel last month. Sometimes they would get 5000 views sometimes they would sit at 0 or less than 100 and then for some reason everything stops on my channel for a day or two, like no views, subs whatever. Like the algorithm is broken and thinks I'm spam for a few days I don't know, makes no sense. I'm really glad I came across this video, now I don't have to worry about making shorts anymore, I'll focus on my longer videos (which are only a few minutes anyway lol) but it will save me some time.
I really messed up 😂 I focused to much on shorts . I should have started a long form channel before I started short form but I wanted to see quick growth :/
Sorry to hear!
Thanks for sharing your experience, man. You literally save our valuable time.
I will RUclips some credit and mention that shorts lately have now allowed for shorts to be linked directly to any related video of yours which includes your long form videos. But I’m going to be honest to say I have both long form and short form vids on my channel and the results are always inconsistent. I’m debating making less shorts per month and stick to more long form videos. Ah well
Finally someone has spoke on viral shots monetisation, I wanted to start RUclips shorts edits on podcast, but I don't know about monetisation
I’m proof he’s right. I get over 12 million views per month easy with shorts, sometimes 20 million. But my long form is useless. Maybe it’s simply not good enough which is totally possible, I’m not great at this stuff but I’ve seen a lot worse videos getting more views without having shorts on their channels. I’ve decided to abandon long form and going to start going after sponsors with shorts, affiliate marketing and reviews in short form as well as continuing my everyday stuff.
dude, thank you so much for this comment. I appreciate you sharing this. and smart on the alternate monetization routes, you are on the right track G
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
You’re welcome and thank you. I’ve learned some stuff on your channel in the past. Happy holidays ✌️
I have a shorts only channel too and it's growing consistently. I've thought about incorporating affiliate marketing. How are you planning on doing that? I believe YT is planning to roll this feature out soon though
@@sanon2480 I simply promote something from Amazon. I have tons of options, dog items are endless so it’s relatively easy for me. I’m also an Amazon influencer so I’ll direct people to the Amazon link in my bio where they will find the product in the video.
appreciating the editing on this vid 😍🔥
Make shorts FROM your long form content and your audience will view your long form content if they found the short interesting. You can't expect to retain the audience you gained from shorts about separate topics than your long form content.
That's exactly what I do, but before I didn't know that so I deleted my old irrelevant videos.
I totally agree with you on this...most of the few subscribers I've got are from shorts as such when i post long form they dont watch and i end up each time with no views. Now I am a bit confused as to what path to go...
Hey I've got an idea, start uploading shorts and grab some audience, start making long videos but initially make them only 2-4 minutes as your audience attention span is less. And gradually increase video length
Will this work ????
Wow, really mind blowing. At first, when I starting my channel, I exactly thinking like this. Get subs from shorts, get monetized and back to long form video. Damn
That’s true. One thing to mitigate that would be to edit the long form content to show it to non subscribers first. Essentially getting two types of audiences pretty much until RUclips tweak that. 🤷♂️
Could you explain more please?
Truly the most valuable info on shorts, thank you!
🤯 .. awesome
Thx G
This is my RUclips shorts channel, I just started this week and I post gaming videos. Great video man!
I can see why this applies every time to face-less channels, repurposed, edited content etc but I follow many creators in lifestyle/influencer niches that get hundreds of thousands on both types of their content, which they post on the same account. I think if people want to follow YOU then they're most likely to watch both forms. Especially if you're posting different things for shorts and not just taking clips of your long form videos. But there isn't really a shortcut to getting your audience to get to that point so you just have to put in the traditional work. Also, when no one knows you, long form videos have more views that come from search where shorts are usually just something that shows up while you're scrolling. That's also why your niche may not have done well with long form, because I would rather spend that time watching something from a more "authentic" or "original" source if that makes sense rather than through someone's editing style or commentary. Mr.beast is an outlier in everything and I'm sure he would have seen more views if he didn't switch to a separate account for shorts after only 31 uploads. Regardless, he didn't have a need for eyes on him when he started shorts like most small creators do so he may have had a different approach if he was in the same boat as them. Anyways, great videos. they always get me thinking about different factors to consider.
big facts. well said
I love the option to link a long form video to a short video. This was genius 💯👑🌻🥰
So basically you must have two separate types of channel to succeed
Yes or an already established long form channel that you supplement w shorts
How do you make edition of videos???
So the best way is to have Two Chanel, one for short and one for long ?
If i understood well both can be on the same topic but not linked eachother…
That's the impression I'm getting too
We had a huge boost in subs when we had a short have 13m views, our subs increased by 40%, i think youtube is paying people to make shorts with subs, because they dont make enough revenue on shorts to pay money.. larry
What you’re saying makes sense, but I still plan on doing a mixture. Ill just have to think more on how i go about it.
I'll tell you my idea and maybe you'll follow along. I am planning on starting a gaming channel with long form content and will be using shorts to advertise it. However, I won't be having both yt shorts and long form content on the same channel. I'll make a sub channel for yt shorts to filter yt shorts subscribers. I only want those that actually like my long form videos to sub on the main channel. RUclips has a feature on shorts now where anyone can link their long form videos to their shorts so this could help a lot as well.
Unfortunately, we had to learn this the hard way, thanks to RUclips shorts they ruined the platform
they should make their own app and website and they could be linked each other..
I support exactly what he is saying!. I noticed this Shorts and Long form mix up some months back.
Thanks for the input! Another case study 🫡
I'm growing my shorts and was thinking of making my first long form as I'm getting a little better at editing... this was a risk I was going to take but my channel usually does 30 seconds or more on shorts and my long for vids starting out would be a little over a minute. Then progress to to 2 mins. I guess I'll see how this goes.
let us know! keep us updated
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT will do :)
Great video brother, I honestly think RUclips shorts is a separate business than regular RUclips content. Because they don't let you link your longer videos in the description, they do not want Short viewers to switch to longer content on RUclips because they pay so little money out for shorts, they profit way more from the shorts. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing us your experiences so that we will be more aware and not suffer the same consequences.
always :) thx for watching
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT IM suffering from same issue as you,should i create a new yt channel? or delete all shorts?
This is such a eye opener, awesome work, you are right about the long videos, shorts isn't the way. Big thumbs up.
This makes a lot of sense. I had 5K subscribers with long form content, and am at around 28K thanks to shorts. When I put long form videos out there, which take me 30 minutes to an hour of time per minute of content to make, they actually get less views than when I JUST made long form content, even though I have improved things like camera, sound, and editing. Every short is guaranteed to make 5-10K views with a few going over 100K and a couple over a million views, and I have been seeing around $1.25/10K views. This has started to discourage me from making long form content especially when I can film two months worth of shorts in an afternoon. A huge downside is that only going surface level like I do in shorts instead of taking a deep, well studied dive as I do for long videos has made me less knowledgeable about my subject.
make a seperate channel for shorts
and link to your long form channel too
There is so much useful info in this video! Thank you!!
That is good advice. Before I started my channel, I had planned on posting both short and long videos. However, a friend on Facebook informed me that both type of audiences come to RUclips with different mentalities. They suggested sticking to one, so I opted for posting shorts.
On that, I was thrilled until last week when four of my videos consecutively surpassed 1K views. However, suddenly, the views came to a complete halt. Impressions or "Shown in feed" are practically at 0, and even my 70 subscribers are not seeing my shorts in their feed. This is disheartening because I don't understand why this happened. The average view duration and "Viewed vs Swiped away" were both over 50% on most of my shorts. So, why did RUclips suddenly stop promoting them? I don't want to give up, but after four failed attempts to get views, I am seriously contemplating quitting :(
Ooof don’t quit, just apply the experience to the next project! 🫡
Yeah this happened to me. I was getting 2k-2.5k views and all a sudden would get like 100 or a few hundred. I kept going now I am back to 1.5k or 2k. I think the algorithm recently changed. But I too made some changes to my shorts. Managed to get my retention rate from around 55% to 90% in my last few videos. Now I just need to work on that viewed vs swipe rate lol.
But yeah just keep going and see where you can improve.
thanks a LOT!!!
I am just starting out and was making the same mistake, long form 19 views and shorts 100+
stopping shorts cuz my niche NEEDS long form viewers
thanks for your advice, you are always in the truth side. I do a youtube shorts only for an extra income because 1usd dollar to us is a big money
🤗👍
That's exactly why you leave "notify subs" unchecked when you post a short.
True. Always 👍
Going through this now. Shorts are doing much better than my long-form. Bulk of my views and subscribers are from Shorts. Thinking once i hit 1k subs, I solely focus on long-form. CTR has been averaging less than 3%. Any advice?
make better thumbnails + video topics. my next video will cover this more
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT Looking forward to it💯
Appreciate your honesty
Shorts still work really great for me on my second channel. I mean, I am just small content creator and I work really hard (I also use a little bit of fame ster, but that's a necessity nowadays). I just give all my videos small initial boost, and that caused them to spread literally everywhere, bringing more and more organic views day after day.
Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge. Like many of the comments here, I am contemplating what route to take. This video has shed some much needed light on my plans.
All of this is 100% true. I want to mainly earn from long form but getting the first 1000 subs was taking me longer than I wanted so I made some shorts and one went viral (2.6 million views and 20,000 subs as a result) , Bad new is, as of today, I'm still at 3800 public watch hours so my channel, 20K subs strong isn't making a dime yet. Fortunately I do have one long form video that has picked up speed (500-600 views per day) and will get me the watch hours needed within a week or two from now. An no, my 20k subs from that viral short is not getting me any long form views.
Bro! You just saved my life! I was about to go down the same habbit hole!
I don’t think so. Short can earn money
I'm glad Ithis has popped up in my reccomended. Literally started grinding out YT shorts as well as long length videos. Welp shit 😆
Hey can we Link up and share ideas together? Hope to hear from you soon 🔜 thanks
Absolutely true Bro. Because when I started youtube shorts and one of videos got 100 views nearly in 1 month. I thought they also watch long form content, but I was wrong. And I can't believe that youtube algo is dumb enough to believe that when short content subscribers don't view long form content, the content in channel sucks and it did not recommend anything to new users. Thanks for major tip bro. Appreciate it
This is the insane part of any business, without the people there is no views and money, so it’s like what are people into and we gotta give them what they want.
Thank you for the important info majority of my content is shorts so I worried about long form content.
oh my gosh thanks bro. i was thinking to get my subscribers and views from shorts then switch to long form content when i was monetized but now ik. thx ur a big help!!
The Most Honest Person I Found On Internet i Agree Too I Regret Making This Channel But Have Worked Hard And Results Were 0
Sorry to hear that boss 🥲
Amazing quality, and content is so spot on! The most valuable I have seen on shorts yet.
I had the same plan for my art channel and discovered the same thing you did. After I stopped posting shorts did my channel start to take off. One or the other, NOT both.
Thank you. I was about to hurt my new channel. You are a life saver!
Love this video, I like the style of your video, I also agree with everything you said🔥
RUclips is very interesting 😅