Years ago... Sora: here’s matsuri chan. Subaru: sorry for having the wrong name. Today... Sora: i thought you were a boy. Subaru: sorry for being the wrong gender.
Suisei wasn't part of Gen 0 yet at the time. As for Roboco and Miko, maybe they were less hyper on stream back then? Maybe they are simply able to be themselves on stream more now than they used to be.
@@sancturillore I think Miko really only got into the swing of things with her current energy after GTAV. That game really let her let loose and found her style of streaming.
@@ModernEphemera -chan suffix suggests endearment, just a step away from straight using just the first name or a nickname (Mio-sha or Choco-sen can be treated as nicknames making them closer than -chan). Subaru here clearly struggles between -senpai, -chan and just Sora, which proves how high of a pedestal Sora is on for her.
Sora is so powerful lol. I love how Subaru asks if she can call her Sora chan, immediately feels uncomfortable about it, then goes back to Sora senpai like 15 seconds later. And Subaru is pretty much a chad by Hololive standards.
@@lauviavari its the opposite in Japan if you call a person there in her first name its rude that's why u need to address them with formalities while in Western calling them with first name is no problem and you can know if you're close by the bond and trust you share
because they aren't really a "Gen" Debuts were far apart, more than half the members are probably one of the busiest in hololive. it's the same thing with Gen 1 & Gen 2.
They should have learned from Coco and done more promotions of each other by now. Sora is much more interesting in collabs than by herself, she really shows her sense of humor when talking to other members.
Well yeah, Sora practically founded a vtuber agency while Subaru stumbled into one and is now an otaku in training. Of course Sora would be the bigger otaku.
@@spongebobfan78 Complete normie with absolutely zero experience at all, in the anime genre, the vtuber sub-culture, and streaming. She is still clueless in many aspects too. But damn, if she isn’t good at what she does. Yagoo made one hell of an investment here.
That's what's amazing with Hololive's recruitment team. They really made a huge gamble with Subaru and it really payed off big time. Same with the other gens. Like getting Pekora and Marine for 3rd Gen and convincing Coco to instead be one of their talents instead of working as a manager. Same with EN and ID, they really have an eye for talent.
Ooh, it's nostalgic, one of the first Holo clips I saw was Subaru being mistakenly introduced as 'Matsuri' by Sora during a 3D live collab of sort (both of them had really adorable reaction to that mistake ww). 02:58 she laughed immediately after this, but man... it kinda hurts to see how difficult it is for Sora to just be 'one of the girls' for many of the members who understandably look up to her.
Well, she's basically the pioneer of Holo members, and she actually carried on even when her very first debut was so small on viewers. Not many people could actually deal with that kind of pressure (remind you Suisei even said once she felt like leaving some time ago). She does deserve that kind of respect, but I get what you mean about how that could also be perceived. Anyway, that also speaks about how willing she is to embrace new generations and to interact with others which is also admirable and sweet.
@@NightmareZV Agreed, it's difficult in Japan to... hm. How do I say. In the Western countries, Sora being so kind and understanding would... make viewers expect the other members to warm up to her quickly and be very buddy-buddy with her, but in Japan that sort of thing is very difficult, especially for someone of such a position. The founding member. Honestly I was shocked she asked to call her Sora-chan, and I honestly think someone at management encouraged her to ask. I agree with both of you, it must be very difficult and isolating in its own way. She's very strong to have stayed and work with everyone, but also very kind and proud of the hololive company to make sure everyone has fun and does their job. It sounds super hard.
@@wren7195 I see. It must've been hard at first, indeed. But glad she carried on. Hololive going on is a thing fron each Holo member, but her resolution is very important.
Well she will learn how to be a respectable senpai and a close senpai soon I mean most of the Gen 0 and Gen 1 are close to other members She can’t gauge the distance yet So just hope that she will learn that eventually Miko Suiseo Haachama Robocco And many more are close to others and yet they are still respectable senpais at the same time.
@@plusequalsUwU you said it as if sora was the one that making herself unapproachable, but the truth is even gen 0 highly respects Sora, not to mention other members. In fact, Sora is always quite kind and approachable, even approach her kouhais herself, but alot of the girls freeze up and become extremely polite when talking to sora. Sora, like subaru mentioned, is like the equivalent of hololive existance, comparing with other gen0 is not a fair comparison.
Man I feel bad for Sora, the huge amount of respect everyone has for her unavoidably creates distance between her and the rest of Hololive and you can tell she wishes it wasn't there. Roboco, Suisei, Miko and Azki all get respect but not the same reverence and it seems so much easier for them.
Well she IS the idol of hololive and carrying basically the whole company before it exploded in popularity It’s kinda understandable, but recently she’s been warming up to others though, not as disconnected as in her early days
Azki gets it too. Roboco is extroverted and usually approaches her kouhais first, making it easy for them to get closer. I assume Miko is too Suisei is a kouhai to quite a lot of members. I think it's a mix of that she predates basically everyone while being busy (same as Azki) that makes it hard for them to make the first move like Miko and Roboco
I guess because of her idol aura, to the point other member feel isn't worthy enough to do Collab with her. Even Matsuri will try to be seiso around Sora-chan.
like subaru said in this clip, sora = hololive, sora predates hololive and hololive is born from sora's hardwork and she carried it alone until other start to get traction the other gen 0 all get respect but not the same reverence simply because they are not same as sora even gen 0 back then called sora with senpai sora is nice and easy to approach but she is special no matter what, her status is no joke so you need to understand its hard to get close to someone like that
@@PlaiB10 It's an idiom, a figure of speech. "Walking on egg shells" means having to be very careful in order to not break them, since egg shells are very fragile. Imagine such cautious behavior and apply to it to real situations. So in this case it means that Holomembers are _still_ overly careful around Sora due to her seniority, when it's clear to a lot of us viewers that there are no egg shells around her whatsoever and that Sora is just 'one of the girls' and wants to be treated as such. She just happened to get in on YAGOO's -broken- dream first.
This is why I'm glad when I see people and talents understanding that Sora does _not_ sit in the center of a social minefield. But old habits die hard.
Sora interacting with the EN girls were great! If only there wasn't a language barrier, but her recent collaboration with IRyS was seriously so awesome for Sora!
Subaru and Sora-chan collab in Minecraft at May was the first collab I watched when I was just into vtuber and I really have been waiting when they are gonna collab again together because their chemistry was just perfect at that time also cute and wholesome although Sora was kinda savage with words lmao. It was at that moment too I subscribed to Sora after Subaru took my first. And I am so happy it's finally happen again and they're trying to be closer with each other. With 3 years preparation Subaru finally unlocked this route so I hope we will see more collab in the future also more arts for this seiso pair.
When Subaru started talking about Sora basically being Hololive, I felt so bad for Sora cause you could tell by the noise that she was making that she didn't enjoy that answer.
@@HappyBeezerStudios it wasn’t actually YAGOO’s Dream she’s carrying? She stated once that he made Hololive an idol company on one of her whims of wanting to be one, she’s carrying her own Dream that Yagoo allowed, and Yagoo is now faced with the crushing burden that most everyone else is slowly ripping it away from what Sora and him set out to create.
@@scurreith3667 wait, so she is a co-founder then or something? never heard this story before, she is basically yagoo but also a talent? so she´s an owner too? im lost
@@khl2445 she’s still below YAGOO as I understand, what I do know is she stated that YAGOO turned Hololive into a idol company because that’s what Sora wanted to be.
It says a lot about Sora’s character (her qualities not persona) about how much she WANTS to be just another one of the girls and not some untouchable holy being. Sora has mentioned how isolating it is, and Subaru trying her hardest to try and be more casual is endearing.
Sora is so precious she just wants to hang out like how the other girls do it -Frick man the challenges of having an untainted image of you created by everyone-
I was surprised when I saw this stream in the schedule. I really like how everyone is trying to warm up to Sora (and vice versa) every time they get the chance to interact with her on different streams.
Man... Watching this video while having social anxiety.... So much pressure. But seeing the possitive comments and the interaction as a whole. Can't put it into words, but I'm glad Subaru got out of her comfort zone and I got to watch.
Huh… I’m pretty impressed at Subaru She’s trying really hard to be as casual as she could but I guess that’s just how strong Sora’s daisenpai aura is Gonna take a while for her to get used to it
There's a part of Sora that really wishes she was Subaru or one of the other members. She's fully aware of how she's perceived, and that's gotta be tough. It's hard to change a perception that's innate because of her position as first.
At least on all the 2020 and this year it seems like the "distance" that all created involuntarily for Sora is slowly getting more and more thin, before December 2020 it seemed a bit impossible to think of some of the girls making a good collab with the Daisenpai...
@@MisterRhyeOfficial also I think Sora is starting to realize that she just needs to force her way in like a bull. She’s probably going to arrange more collabs.
@@matasa7463 this collab is subaru asking sora and i dont think just force it would be good idea, sure sora knows she can just arrange collab and the other wouldnt reject but it doesnt really solve the problem and the collab would be just awkward, heck even this collab is really awkward at the beginning and subaru still apologize a lot but since subaru herself want to do this so she put efforts to make progress even tho its not like full casual yet but still big progress
@@matasa7463 id imagine seeing coco's own persistence and power helped inspire her own tbh. The power of being proactive when you want to see change can be strong af.
I love the different types of adorable Hololive JP has. Everyone kind of has their own "thing." I agree with the other comments about Soda. She wants to just be a part of the team and dreaded as such but she's their boss. Must be weird and difficult.
Sora is the Idol of the hololive Idols and I think she's kinda lonely up on that pedestal. With Kiryu Coco gone I don't know if there are any in Hololive that could naturally ignore such a status when doing a collab with her.
I think polka did a fairly good job when collab with sora recently, subaru's attempt this round is a good try too. During the sports festival, pekora also did her best to open herself up to sora.
I think Sora has done relatively frequent collabs with Azki actually. The problem here is that Azki is also relatively isolated from the rest of hololive because of Hololive's initial design for Inonaka music, so it was mostly Sora and Azki on their own.
Suisei is pretty casual to her compared to others. She was joking with her around their Alice in NY collab, when others were being too formal when Sora arranged their meeting that time
Id love to see how EN collabs with Sora, like I feel lile they's hold some semblance of reverance but still be able to treat her as "one of the girls" type thing, still respecting the senpai/kouhao dynamic, but just still be equal as idols kinda thing
I dunno. I dont think most members want to do the same stuff sora does. But they respect what she does. But i also think that gap and image is what makes sora difficult to approach haha.
legit, thank you to the translators for also translating the cultural differences, like Subaru switching from casual/informal speaking to formal speaking
Would it be wrong to say that my first impression of Sora was "a normal girl"? Now hear me out first, by the time I saw sora for the first time, I have already seen yakuza leader dragon girl, fps apex predator lion girl, ultimate chaos rabbit girl, death metal vocalist necromancer and horny pirate. Sora is the ideal idol which ironically made her look the most normal and plain compared to the others. I had no idea she was basically treated as the goddess of the community cause she is the ideal idol. And for subaru well my exact thoughts were "who is this girl dancing with the shuba duck?"
Congratulations, you're the reaction Sora wishes she caused instead of being a goddess to the fans. She feels terribly isolated because most others can't relax around her and treat her like any other of the hololive talents, including the hololive talents.
This is probably the actual problem lol. No other 0 gen is treated like sora. Sora is... A normal girl. But shes like, hyper normal. Shes extremely pure and nice lol. This combined with her being the most senior makes her difficult to approach. Other girls in hololive dont have seniority issues because theyre big ol degenerates who quickly warm up to one another. They SHARE that degeneracy. Sora tho seems a lot sweeter and milder. Not even haachama or matsuri are seen as "normal girls" like sora is.
@@crimsama2451 I always want a Sora chan and Ayame collab. But my big one is Sora chan and Sister Claire from Nijisanji,both are number one seiso in their company,that'd be epic
Man, when Sora did her (I think it was New Years) wishes, there were two things that really stuck out for me. 1 was collabs. She said she'd do more collabs, but she then erased it and said she was too busy and how she'd only do minecraft collabs. 2 was 750k. She said that she didn't think she'd go past 750k this year. Well, for 1, I'm happy to see her doing collabs with more people after the sports festival event. Even if it took a while, I'm happy to see her doing things with others that isn't just another minecraft collab. Its nice to see Sora talk with the other members in which the other members are slowly getting more and more casual with her. For 2, she's less than 1k away from 900k. A million isnn't looking likely but she's more than blown away her new years goal and that's something to be really excited about! People also wanted her to do ASMR but she erased that XD. Sora certainly feels more casual for the last few months but I feel like we're going to have to wait until maybe next year before she starts getting interested in that. Although she has expressed interest in moving out which is another kind of shocker.
Since a company called Hololive was established to support the idol Tokino Sora, it is understood that without Tokino Sora, Hololive would not exist. The simple logical structure is like this, and it is input into the heads of holo houhais.
Good. Get to know the Duck. She's loud and bright and a bit of a screw-up, and watching her and her friends take the mickey out of each other is a ton of fun.
I kinda wish the "IRL" side wasn't as taboo, as I'd really like to see them interacting in a more normal/casual setting, instead of only getting stories told afterwards.
I suspect Subaru will quickly become Sora's favorite member of Hololive. Possibly after Coco, despite her graduation. Why? Because Subaru dares ask permission to not call her *senpai.* Sora is lonely at the top. She wants friends, not worshippers. Edit: Oozora Subaru is many things. Tomboy. Duck. Gym worker. Possible space alien. But "quiet," my dear Soda-can, is _not_ one of them.
Ehhh,did you forget Azki and Miko? I think Sora is close w Matsuri too,since she and Matsuri and Subaru did the 3d anime together. Sora also used her loli voice for Matsuri,I don’t think anyone get to hear Sora loli except Matsuri.
I honestly feel bad for Sora. I get they want to show her respect being in the business for so long, but they all seem to almost change their character or at least tone it down around her as they don’t want to be “comedians” and more idol like with her. She has been interacting and doing collabs more like this which makes me happy though.
Imagine playing the hololive card game and being able to summon the three egyp- I mean, Hololive gods, Sora, the seiso godess, Matsuri, the pervert god and Akai Haato, the strongest idol. instawin. Unless you are able to get the 5 cards to summon HAACHAMA, The Forbidden One.
Haha, then we will also have suisei golden axe magic card, which destroy all opponent monster and miko all lost trap card, which send all cards in the field to graveyard.
Everyone in Hololive has their own "curse". But Sora's "curse" is the worst of them all, because of her "aura" everybody seems to kinda afraid befriend her.
Sora is The Boss Sora is Daisenpai Sora is the Goddess of Hololive. Subaru is the first bird of Hololive Subaru is the most beloved among clippers Subaru is often called Sun of Hololive.
![When Subaru and Fubuki first met each other [Hololive/ENG Sub]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WVwetr8ckP8/mqdefault.jpg)
![When Subaru and Fubuki first met each other [Hololive/ENG Sub]](/img/tr.png)
![Subaru and Sora gives advice to each other and makes history through friendship [Hololive/ENG Sub]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RJ56ROEbeM0/mqdefault.jpg)
Years ago...
Sora: here’s matsuri chan.
Subaru: sorry for having the wrong name.
Today...
Sora: i thought you were a boy.
Subaru: sorry for being the wrong gender.
Next week:
Sora: i thought you were a duck
Subaru: sorry for being the wrong species. _gwak_
Sora: I thought you were a boy
Meanwhile holostar: I guess we're Apache helicopter
Can this get any worst ?!
@@NiceUglyBastard helixopte helixopte....ಥ‿ಥ It a joke🤣😂
@@xavierzaxavier5873 helikopter helikopter 🚁🚁
“On stream, we are all quite calm”
Looking at Roboco, Miko, and Suisei…
THAT’S CALM?!
Suisei wasn't part of Gen 0 yet at the time.
As for Roboco and Miko, maybe they were less hyper on stream back then? Maybe they are simply able to be themselves on stream more now than they used to be.
@@sancturillore she said "five gen0 members" 3:46 , so yes, suisei also included
@@sancturillore I think Miko really only got into the swing of things with her current energy after GTAV. That game really let her let loose and found her style of streaming.
Sora must think that way because thats how they must always tone it down when shes around
I think by calmer side isn't that calm knowing how hololive is...
Sora: "Gen 0 is all quite calm on-stream"
Me, thinking of Miko: 🤔🤔🤔
When Miko first started, she was incredibly subdued
Roboco can go wild as well ;) .
Miko and Suisei are quite chaotic
They we're talking about their past behavior and yeah Miko was pretty laidback back then
I guess Miko was pretty chill. Till GTAV happened.
0:17 subaru: can I call you "Sora-chan"?
0:47 subaru: Sora-senpai, you might...
Long habits die hard.
what does the chan mean?
@@EightKinks Chan means friend, whereas senpai means senior/superior
@@ModernEphemera -chan suffix suggests endearment, just a step away from straight using just the first name or a nickname (Mio-sha or Choco-sen can be treated as nicknames making them closer than -chan). Subaru here clearly struggles between -senpai, -chan and just Sora, which proves how high of a pedestal Sora is on for her.
Sora is so powerful lol. I love how Subaru asks if she can call her Sora chan, immediately feels uncomfortable about it, then goes back to Sora senpai like 15 seconds later. And Subaru is pretty much a chad by Hololive standards.
Later in the stream, Subaru removes the "chan" as well.
Her first few times saying just "Sora", you could tell she was a little uncomfortable with it
They are close now since there is no more formalities
@@justinvincent1691 Idk about western, but at my place, having formalities make us more closer than no formalities
@@lauviavari its the opposite in Japan if you call a person there in her first name its rude that's why u need to address them with formalities while in Western calling them with first name is no problem and you can know if you're close by the bond and trust you share
@@justinvincent1691 I'm from japan...
Its not the main point of the clip but its nice to know although gen 0 rarely collab as a gen (?) They have good interaction off stream
Well most favorite holomember to sora both come from the gen 0 , so yeah
It’s pretty amusing how close they got even though they were only grouped because they weren’t part of a gen.
because they aren't really a "Gen"
Debuts were far apart, more than half the members are probably one of the busiest in hololive.
it's the same thing with Gen 1 & Gen 2.
I don't think Gen 0 even had a single collab alltogether (at least not with AZKi)
They should have learned from Coco and done more promotions of each other by now. Sora is much more interesting in collabs than by herself, she really shows her sense of humor when talking to other members.
Sora: "I thought you were a boy"
Me: I thought Subaru was a duck
When you realize Sora is more otaku than Subaru
To be fair, Subaru was pretty much a normie compared to the rest of Hololive.
Well yeah, Sora practically founded a vtuber agency while Subaru stumbled into one and is now an otaku in training. Of course Sora would be the bigger otaku.
@@spongebobfan78 Complete normie with absolutely zero experience at all, in the anime genre, the vtuber sub-culture, and streaming. She is still clueless in many aspects too.
But damn, if she isn’t good at what she does. Yagoo made one hell of an investment here.
@@matasa7463 IIRC, one of the reasons why she was hired is for personality and eagerness to do a job despite the lack of knowledge.
That's what's amazing with Hololive's recruitment team. They really made a huge gamble with Subaru and it really payed off big time.
Same with the other gens. Like getting Pekora and Marine for 3rd Gen and convincing Coco to instead be one of their talents instead of working as a manager.
Same with EN and ID, they really have an eye for talent.
"Can I call you Sora-chan?" "Sure!"
Instantly reverts back to Sora-Senpai anyway
Ooh, it's nostalgic, one of the first Holo clips I saw was Subaru being mistakenly introduced as 'Matsuri' by Sora during a 3D live collab of sort (both of them had really adorable reaction to that mistake ww).
02:58 she laughed immediately after this, but man... it kinda hurts to see how difficult it is for Sora to just be 'one of the girls' for many of the members who understandably look up to her.
Well, she's basically the pioneer of Holo members, and she actually carried on even when her very first debut was so small on viewers. Not many people could actually deal with that kind of pressure (remind you Suisei even said once she felt like leaving some time ago). She does deserve that kind of respect, but I get what you mean about how that could also be perceived.
Anyway, that also speaks about how willing she is to embrace new generations and to interact with others which is also admirable and sweet.
@@NightmareZV Agreed, it's difficult in Japan to... hm. How do I say. In the Western countries, Sora being so kind and understanding would... make viewers expect the other members to warm up to her quickly and be very buddy-buddy with her, but in Japan that sort of thing is very difficult, especially for someone of such a position. The founding member. Honestly I was shocked she asked to call her Sora-chan, and I honestly think someone at management encouraged her to ask.
I agree with both of you, it must be very difficult and isolating in its own way. She's very strong to have stayed and work with everyone, but also very kind and proud of the hololive company to make sure everyone has fun and does their job. It sounds super hard.
@@wren7195 I see. It must've been hard at first, indeed.
But glad she carried on. Hololive going on is a thing fron each Holo member, but her resolution is very important.
Well she will learn how to be a respectable senpai and a close senpai soon
I mean most of the Gen 0 and Gen 1 are close to other members
She can’t gauge the distance yet
So just hope that she will learn that eventually
Miko
Suiseo
Haachama
Robocco
And many more are close to others and yet they are still respectable senpais at the same time.
@@plusequalsUwU you said it as if sora was the one that making herself unapproachable, but the truth is even gen 0 highly respects Sora, not to mention other members. In fact, Sora is always quite kind and approachable, even approach her kouhais herself, but alot of the girls freeze up and become extremely polite when talking to sora. Sora, like subaru mentioned, is like the equivalent of hololive existance, comparing with other gen0 is not a fair comparison.
Man I feel bad for Sora, the huge amount of respect everyone has for her unavoidably creates distance between her and the rest of Hololive and you can tell she wishes it wasn't there.
Roboco, Suisei, Miko and Azki all get respect but not the same reverence and it seems so much easier for them.
Miko gets zero respect
Well she IS the idol of hololive and carrying basically the whole company before it exploded in popularity
It’s kinda understandable, but recently she’s been warming up to others though, not as disconnected as in her early days
Azki gets it too.
Roboco is extroverted and usually approaches her kouhais first, making it easy for them to get closer. I assume Miko is too
Suisei is a kouhai to quite a lot of members.
I think it's a mix of that she predates basically everyone while being busy (same as Azki) that makes it hard for them to make the first move like Miko and Roboco
I guess because of her idol aura, to the point other member feel isn't worthy enough to do Collab with her.
Even Matsuri will try to be seiso around Sora-chan.
like subaru said in this clip, sora = hololive, sora predates hololive and hololive is born from sora's hardwork and she carried it alone until other start to get traction
the other gen 0 all get respect but not the same reverence simply because they are not same as sora even gen 0 back then called sora with senpai
sora is nice and easy to approach but she is special no matter what, her status is no joke so you need to understand its hard to get close to someone like that
I imagine a light above Subaru's head that blinks when she switches from formal to informal. The light scares her so she goes back to "Sora-senpai".
I love how approachable Sora actually is despite the egg shells seemingly around her
That ain’t no egg shell, it’s been what… 4 years? And even now that shell still isn’t completely broken
@@PlaiB10 It's an idiom, a figure of speech. "Walking on egg shells" means having to be very careful in order to not break them, since egg shells are very fragile. Imagine such cautious behavior and apply to it to real situations.
So in this case it means that Holomembers are _still_ overly careful around Sora due to her seniority, when it's clear to a lot of us viewers that there are no egg shells around her whatsoever and that Sora is just 'one of the girls' and wants to be treated as such. She just happened to get in on YAGOO's -broken- dream first.
@@purebaldness ohhhh, true true, I didn’t see it that way but now I do
@@PlaiB10 it's cool, I probably should have worded my comment in a way that was less cryptic lol
This is why I'm glad when I see people and talents understanding that Sora does _not_ sit in the center of a social minefield. But old habits die hard.
So the communal changing room effectively became Sora’s personal one because nobody dared to use the same one as her? Lol
*Sacred place
She had a personal changing room, and the girls were allowed to go in but they didnt have the courage to.
It’s crazy how respectful Subaru is towards Sora even when she’s kinda trying not to be.
Japanese social culture in full display.
0:35 that's the hardest I've ever heard Sora laugh. Makes me happy
Sora: I had the impression that 2nd gens girls were quite chaotic
Fans after 6 gens of Hololive JP, 2 gens of Hololive EN & ID: That's cute
actually, including gamers and gen 0, holo JP would be 8 gens
@@aska5815 Wait, HoloX's been around for 8+ months already, bloody hell, I thought it's only been 2, or 3 months
1:30 I always love Sora's "なんで" it sounds nice
Even when there's only 2 generations, Sora-chan still exhibit immense pressure that she herself did not realize
Sora interacting with the EN girls were great! If only there wasn't a language barrier, but her recent collaboration with IRyS was seriously so awesome for Sora!
It's okay, Sora. We all thought Subaru was a human at first, until we heard her talk and discovered she was a duck.
Lady Tokino's ability is simply Pressure, it's harder for anyone to act wildly when around her.
Subaru and Sora-chan collab in Minecraft at May was the first collab I watched when I was just into vtuber and I really have been waiting when they are gonna collab again together because their chemistry was just perfect at that time also cute and wholesome although Sora was kinda savage with words lmao. It was at that moment too I subscribed to Sora after Subaru took my first.
And I am so happy it's finally happen again and they're trying to be closer with each other. With 3 years preparation Subaru finally unlocked this route so I hope we will see more collab in the future also more arts for this seiso pair.
When Subaru started talking about Sora basically being Hololive, I felt so bad for Sora cause you could tell by the noise that she was making that she didn't enjoy that answer.
With her back in pain from how she had to carry Yagoo's dream. Then all the comedians.
Nice to see them getting closer and warming up to another.
@@HappyBeezerStudios it wasn’t actually YAGOO’s Dream she’s carrying? She stated once that he made Hololive an idol company on one of her whims of wanting to be one, she’s carrying her own Dream that Yagoo allowed, and Yagoo is now faced with the crushing burden that most everyone else is slowly ripping it away from what Sora and him set out to create.
@@scurreith3667 wait, so she is a co-founder then or something? never heard this story before, she is basically yagoo but also a talent? so she´s an owner too? im lost
@@khl2445 she’s still below YAGOO as I understand, what I do know is she stated that YAGOO turned Hololive into a idol company because that’s what Sora wanted to be.
@@scurreith3667 oh
It says a lot about Sora’s character (her qualities not persona) about how much she WANTS to be just another one of the girls and not some untouchable holy being.
Sora has mentioned how isolating it is, and Subaru trying her hardest to try and be more casual is endearing.
When God meets Duck.
Sora is so precious she just wants to hang out like how the other girls do it
-Frick man the challenges of having an untainted image of you created by everyone-
i notice that most of older hololive gen really has no problem collabing with men.
Sora : So, I was being avoided...
Shuba : *PANIK
I was surprised when I saw this stream in the schedule. I really like how everyone is trying to warm up to Sora (and vice versa) every time they get the chance to interact with her on different streams.
Man... Watching this video while having social anxiety.... So much pressure. But seeing the possitive comments and the interaction as a whole. Can't put it into words, but I'm glad Subaru got out of her comfort zone and I got to watch.
Sora: Is that a boy?
Subaru: I'm a girl too.. you know
Sora: WHAT!?!
Huh… I’m pretty impressed at Subaru
She’s trying really hard to be as casual as she could but I guess that’s just how strong Sora’s daisenpai aura is
Gonna take a while for her to get used to it
There's a part of Sora that really wishes she was Subaru or one of the other members. She's fully aware of how she's perceived, and that's gotta be tough. It's hard to change a perception that's innate because of her position as first.
At least on all the 2020 and this year it seems like the "distance" that all created involuntarily for Sora is slowly getting more and more thin, before December 2020 it seemed a bit impossible to think of some of the girls making a good collab with the Daisenpai...
@@MisterRhyeOfficial also I think Sora is starting to realize that she just needs to force her way in like a bull. She’s probably going to arrange more collabs.
@@matasa7463 this collab is subaru asking sora and i dont think just force it would be good idea, sure sora knows she can just arrange collab and the other wouldnt reject but it doesnt really solve the problem and the collab would be just awkward, heck even this collab is really awkward at the beginning and subaru still apologize a lot but since subaru herself want to do this so she put efforts to make progress even tho its not like full casual yet but still big progress
@@matasa7463 id imagine seeing coco's own persistence and power helped inspire her own tbh. The power of being proactive when you want to see change can be strong af.
I love the different types of adorable Hololive JP has. Everyone kind of has their own "thing."
I agree with the other comments about Soda. She wants to just be a part of the team and dreaded as such but she's their boss. Must be weird and difficult.
Meanwhile me playing Counter-Strike with my boss during office hours cuz we're done with our works and got nothing better to do 😂
Sora is the Idol of the hololive Idols and I think she's kinda lonely up on that pedestal. With Kiryu Coco gone I don't know if there are any in Hololive that could naturally ignore such a status when doing a collab with her.
Coco still hold back as much as she can though. Coco respect sora more than anyone.
I think polka did a fairly good job when collab with sora recently, subaru's attempt this round is a good try too. During the sports festival, pekora also did her best to open herself up to sora.
I think Sora has done relatively frequent collabs with Azki actually. The problem here is that Azki is also relatively isolated from the rest of hololive because of Hololive's initial design for Inonaka music, so it was mostly Sora and Azki on their own.
Suisei is pretty casual to her compared to others. She was joking with her around their Alice in NY collab, when others were being too formal when Sora arranged their meeting that time
HoloEN probably could lol. Shes done well with some ID members too. Her and Iofi get along nicely.
oh man, i'm glad that Sora is starting to have collabs with other holomembers, like not just minecraft encounters
Subaru being mistaken for a boy is kind of a constant from her predebut
0:36 blessings
Imagine Subaru being like Tamaki-kun...
Well, it would be an interesting thing to see, wouldn't it? 😅
Luna gonna get ptsd
Man that synched laugh at 0:37
this reminds me to Marine's hacked tweet.
"Subaru is a girl, too."
Deepest lore of Subaru as Holostars 0th gen
I thought Subaru was a boy too.
Sora Chan seems exceptionally bubbly in this clip
Seeing this collab was a surprise but it was nice seeing them together. Hopefully it broke the ice and leads to more interactions down the road.
Such a cute and wholesome conversation
lmao so there is place called sacred ground in Cover studio
the holy presence is too strong
Subaru is a boi and a duck stuck inside girl body.
Sora has a private changing room like a VIP as expected .
It is not. They can use the room that sora use too but no body have courage to do so.
Sora blurted the 2nd gen awkwardness smoothly lmao
Id love to see how EN collabs with Sora, like I feel lile they's hold some semblance of reverance but still be able to treat her as "one of the girls" type thing, still respecting the senpai/kouhao dynamic, but just still be equal as idols kinda thing
I love it. Sora is so seiso that she is still largely oblivious to how everyone sees her as being THE Hololive idol, the goal for everyone to achieve.
I dunno. I dont think most members want to do the same stuff sora does. But they respect what she does. But i also think that gap and image is what makes sora difficult to approach haha.
This quacking 120db police siren, quiet?
legit, thank you to the translators for also translating the cultural differences, like Subaru switching from casual/informal speaking to formal speaking
Thank you very much for translate a clip of this stream, I wish I could find more.
I love how close they are now than before. It always brings me great joy.
Putting them together like this, I think they could play sisters if they wanted to. Sora's speaking voice is even a little bit duck-ish at times.
"Gen 0 are all quite on stream" - eh? miComet are one of the most chaotic duo ever
I haven't seen Sora laugh that hard before xD
Subaru: "Being with Sora makes me so nervous, my hear was beating so hard!"
Noel: "Ah, so now you know how I feel."
Subaru is the very essence of Tomboy.
cute sora-chan and subaru.
I thought they would be closer since they worked w each other on different stuffs,even beside hololive,so it’s kinda surprising.
this is wonderful
Mistaking tomboys for actual boys is a sacrilege and the only reason Soda-chan can get away with it is that she is a supreme being.
i think they get quiet if theres sora nearby lol
Its kinda funny when you remember that Subaru make a debut stream using a 500 yen microphone (and also with the legendary 'Subaru lets go' fanart)..
0:37 Cute Laughter,
Would it be wrong to say that my first impression of Sora was "a normal girl"? Now hear me out first, by the time I saw sora for the first time, I have already seen yakuza leader dragon girl, fps apex predator lion girl, ultimate chaos rabbit girl, death metal vocalist necromancer and horny pirate. Sora is the ideal idol which ironically made her look the most normal and plain compared to the others. I had no idea she was basically treated as the goddess of the community cause she is the ideal idol. And for subaru well my exact thoughts were "who is this girl dancing with the shuba duck?"
Congratulations, you're the reaction Sora wishes she caused instead of being a goddess to the fans. She feels terribly isolated because most others can't relax around her and treat her like any other of the hololive talents, including the hololive talents.
@@milhy6567 Trust me,true Soratomos do not considered her a goddess seriously,just as a jokes. Soratomos literally means sora friend after all
This is probably the actual problem lol. No other 0 gen is treated like sora. Sora is... A normal girl. But shes like, hyper normal. Shes extremely pure and nice lol. This combined with her being the most senior makes her difficult to approach. Other girls in hololive dont have seniority issues because theyre big ol degenerates who quickly warm up to one another. They SHARE that degeneracy. Sora tho seems a lot sweeter and milder. Not even haachama or matsuri are seen as "normal girls" like sora is.
@@crimsama2451 I always want a Sora chan and Ayame collab. But my big one is Sora chan and Sister Claire from Nijisanji,both are number one seiso in their company,that'd be epic
Man, when Sora did her (I think it was New Years) wishes, there were two things that really stuck out for me.
1 was collabs. She said she'd do more collabs, but she then erased it and said she was too busy and how she'd only do minecraft collabs.
2 was 750k. She said that she didn't think she'd go past 750k this year.
Well, for 1, I'm happy to see her doing collabs with more people after the sports festival event. Even if it took a while, I'm happy to see her doing things with others that isn't just another minecraft collab. Its nice to see Sora talk with the other members in which the other members are slowly getting more and more casual with her.
For 2, she's less than 1k away from 900k. A million isnn't looking likely but she's more than blown away her new years goal and that's something to be really excited about!
People also wanted her to do ASMR but she erased that XD. Sora certainly feels more casual for the last few months but I feel like we're going to have to wait until maybe next year before she starts getting interested in that. Although she has expressed interest in moving out which is another kind of shocker.
sora is a goddess.
Our queen and our duck
*[OMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEs internally]*
Check out Subaru’s pekora, sora, and crow impressions in that stream too LOL it’s big kusa
Since a company called Hololive was established to support the idol Tokino Sora, it is understood that without Tokino Sora, Hololive would not exist. The simple logical structure is like this, and it is input into the heads of holo houhais.
sora's changing room = sacred grounds
subaru is entering sacred grounds
subaru is entering sora's changing room
the logic is irrefutable.
We need more Sora collabs! And much as I love watching all the girls, I just wish I could enjoy some more Sora with them as well 💙
NGL Subaru do be looking ikemen.
I search for subaru car brand but youtube recommended this girl...
Welcome to rabbit's hole, enjoy your stay!
Good. Get to know the Duck. She's loud and bright and a bit of a screw-up, and watching her and her friends take the mickey out of each other is a ton of fun.
@@twotothehalf3725 she revs louder than the car 😂
@@damiandesmond2007 Damn right she does. You either get some hearing protections now or learn to live with the tinnitus. Good times ahead either way.
Subarus eyes at 0:38 wow.. lol
I kinda wish the "IRL" side wasn't as taboo, as I'd really like to see them interacting in a more normal/casual setting, instead of only getting stories told afterwards.
That's why subaru is best tomboy
Wow she really thought she was an actual boy lol…
I suspect Subaru will quickly become Sora's favorite member of Hololive. Possibly after Coco, despite her graduation. Why? Because Subaru dares ask permission to not call her *senpai.*
Sora is lonely at the top. She wants friends, not worshippers.
Edit: Oozora Subaru is many things. Tomboy. Duck. Gym worker. Possible space alien. But "quiet," my dear Soda-can, is _not_ one of them.
"Possible space alien"
What. Need source. Interested.
@@nittayoshifumi8252 ruclips.net/video/wis97bvEp1s/видео.html
Very suspicious tweet from Subaru shortly after debut.
Ehhh,did you forget Azki and Miko? I think Sora is close w Matsuri too,since she and Matsuri and Subaru did the 3d anime together. Sora also used her loli voice for Matsuri,I don’t think anyone get to hear Sora loli except Matsuri.
Azki yes, Miko I never knew. The Hololive Relationship Chart (TM) is so large and complex that I doubt any one person can actually memorize all of it.
@@CiaranMaxwell sora literally pick azki and miko as the answer for "your favorite kouhai", even in holotalk sora tell a story about azki and miko
Sora is so pretty :(
I honestly feel bad for Sora. I get they want to show her respect being in the business for so long, but they all seem to almost change their character or at least tone it down around her as they don’t want to be “comedians” and more idol like with her. She has been interacting and doing collabs more like this which makes me happy though.
Its kinda ironic that, because shes so normal and "seiso" it ends up making her more the odd one out compared to all these chaotic weirdo degenerates.
Lol (informal)
so it fix subaru was innocent tomboy
sora senpai ❤ queen of hololive
Subaru cutest mine wife
I thought Roboco of all people was a boy when I first saw her
Imagine playing the hololive card game and being able to summon the three egyp- I mean, Hololive gods, Sora, the seiso godess, Matsuri, the pervert god and Akai Haato, the strongest idol.
instawin.
Unless you are able to get the 5 cards to summon HAACHAMA, The Forbidden One.
Haha, then we will also have suisei golden axe magic card, which destroy all opponent monster and miko all lost trap card, which send all cards in the field to graveyard.
@@zyan3131 trap cards don't work against gods.
Also, if you summon HAACHAMA THE FORBIDDEN ONE.
The game is over.
Shit my chest hurt i think the sweetness is gunna give meh a haato kougeki XDDD
Those two are really adorable together. I hope we see more in the future.
so she has a private dressing room
Subaru quiet??? First time I've ever heard that said about her.
Everyone in Hololive has their own "curse". But Sora's "curse" is the worst of them all, because of her "aura" everybody seems to kinda afraid befriend her.
Sora is The Boss
Sora is Daisenpai
Sora is the Goddess of Hololive.
Subaru is the first bird of Hololive
Subaru is the most beloved among clippers
Subaru is often called Sun of Hololive.
This means subaru looks like a boy irl ? TOMBOY LITERALLY???!!!
Yes yes Yes yes