InMotion V12 Quality Check - Teardown
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Today we disassemble the InMotion V12! We’ll see how it looks from the inside and if it’s solidly made!
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Seems like InMotion has pretty much nailed the construction of EUC's. Hope other companies follow their lead :)
other companies prefer to add more battery cells instead of another layer of plastic.
Yeah, love the modular build and solid water proof design. Id rather have quality over 100 extra mAh 😄
The no-wire connection to the top panel - a big THANK YOU to inmotion. This literally shows that they want their devices to be reliable and easily repairable.
Finally, a company understands how to use a heat sink. Well done Inmotion! Thanks Adam, a great teardown of an excellent wheel. I think we’ll find the S20 to be similarly well built.
My V12 arrives soon, so I keep watching this videos to learn how to take care of it. No technicians around. Thanks again for the tips.
Man, it’s crazy how much more tightly packed and technologically advanced this is than my 18XL! Can’t wait to get one 😜
Omg, it looks so good compared to my GW Nikola...great teardown Adam, as always!
Thank you!! Your Video is a big Argument for me to buy the v12 as my next wheel 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 looking forward to see it in action with your style of riding. My V10F can’t keep up with my ambitions anymore 😂
Hi sir, question please. I'm looking to get my first, and choosing between what you have, 10f or I could go big, v12. How long have you had the 10f? I know it's not that fast and there's a limiter (like others), and did you buy the v12? How is it so far.
Thank you
@@Cons2911 For the first wheel I would buy a much smaller wheel like the V8, MSuper V3 or Kingsong 14... It is easier to handle and learn. My first wheel was the V8, perfect size. Then I upgraded to the V10, now I have bought the MSuper V3 S+ . My next wheel will be the RS19 or the Extremebull X-Max. I like that the rim and tire is more visible than with the inmotion wheels.
@@Euc_spirit I just ordered a v12, was thi king of 10f but I can probably buy just one so I went with a keeper. I think I can learn it regardless. I just wish no major accident lol. It will be here by tomorrow (it's shipping by bus lol)
I'm glad I didn't have to take that apart. Like the S18 (huge heatsink), love these fan-less wheels. The V11 was also a puzzle to take apart :-)
Somebody in Europe please 3D-print a clear back panel so the back lights are more visible.
I promise I'll order it as soon as it's available
This is night and day quality compared to the competition.
Now i want to see a Kingsong S20 disassembly
Liked the video before it even loaded.
I already know it will be quality content!
Same!
Thanks for this video.
It gives me peace of mind I'll be able to just hop on and ride all winter once I get mine
Can’t wait for the V12 HT
Very solid build ....like the way they have mounted the mosfet's ....well thought through ...many thank's for the disassembly :-)
Tbh I like that you said the channel name normally
I was curious how you would react on that! Thanks for the comment ;)
Interesting to see the heat sink's temperature being dissipated via convection, using the tire to keep the air circulating. That looks like a fairly robust design.
Thanks Adam, all looks good but for the wire insulation. Still gives me the confidence to go ahead :)
Wow this does look like a really well thought out wheel. I do like how they have made the battery and the housing so it slots into eachother to allow for very little movement. Very nice
It's really good of you to show screws up close to the camera. I've been putting back together my V11 and was confused at times with "which screw goes here" problem.
Ok so the batteries seem pretty neatly packed with hard plastic, compared to blue syringe wraps lol
like on literally every Inmotion
@@Ubeogesh the V5F and v10F are encased only in shrink wrap, but other than that yea all others
I have the Sherman AND love it
Can't get enough of this wheel! Make as much content on it as you're willing. Can't wait to get mine in spring.
Great high quality tests 🤩. Keep up the good work! #AlgoPushComment
Coming from the mountain biking world, most nice bikes are sold without pedals or with cheap disposable plastic pedals because pedals are personal choices.
Would love to see one day EUC pedals get standardized and you can have the same of your favourite pedals on all your wheels
hopefully with a discount...
Finally you don't sing "wrong way")) It is good way
Thanks for the comment ;) I was interested about the reactions :)
@@mr_wrongway My reaction is not so indicative, I bought EUC this summer, and in a month I reviewed all your videos of this year ;)
@@mr_wrongway I was sad when there was no jingle. :(
That radiator is clean next to the old 16x.. If you remember my video... Amazing video second time i see it because th wheeler pro have done it also
Thanks for the great video. My V11 overheats after a lot of hill riding. I wonder if the cooling is improved with that huge heatsink on the V12. Not that I really care that much though because I only want the S20 😂
I really like the modularity and especially the control /power electronics module together with clean cable harnessing. Compared to GW you can see that there are no floating cables that could get cut and shorted or through hole components without adhesive. It also looks like that they have external supplier for their battery packs?
What I really dont like is that mechanically its easy to get the wheel off but you need to do quite a lot of disassembling to get to the connector. I hate usage of silicon and wood screws. There are still things to improve but changing tire must be a nightmare only because of the connector.
Well we should do a see through version of the v12 like jerry rigs does with his phones
Kawał dobrej roboty!
Good video! Thank you.
I like your videos, they made me get a wheel. I would be curious about your daily maintenance on your wheels (dust, mud, lubes, rust, etc.).
Wow 😍 Good quality wheel 👍👍
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Could you do a comparison of the ease of maintenance for different EUC makes, looks like the Inmotion is better.
Not many places will touch a EUC in the UK and ease of maintenance nay become an issue long-term.
I won’t be able to assemble this back..maybe I could, it would take me the whole weekend
Interesting to see how next batches hold on. My first batch speciment have been waiting for parts for 2 months. Screen in top cover died.
Is it still rideable without the screen?
Yes it was, but it did shout "please repair".
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Switched my deposit to a V12HT, so much more for your money than the S20.
I have 16x now, and it looks somehow similar with v12. Now after a video about gotway caught in fire, i understand why ks decide to set speed limit at 50 km/h, even though 16x have lg mj1 with 10A max discharge rate. So it was totally right not to buy Gotway begode. And yes, v12 looks almost flawless! Basically my complains about kingsong is waterproofing and speed (safety margin, not really speed). We'll see, v12 have a great potential to be a perfect commuter.
Awesome video 👍👊
Здравствуй Адам✋хочу посоветовать полиуретановый строительный герметик встаёт как резина ко всему липнет сохнет тоже быстро Когда захочешь снять Замучаешься будет своё дело выполнять всегда👍
так может лучше не мазать тот который замучаешься снимать?
@@Ubeogesh зависит от обстаятельств вибрация и тд это рекомендация а использовать где либо каждый решает сам
The v13 will be easier supposedly ;)
did they give you an ETA on the V13? or just gotta wait for next year same time as V12?
Please do one for the V13 when it comes out, so I wouldn’t have to. :)
Hi and thanks. Wich reference of bearings please ? Rided in water and bearings are rusted...
Having to change the control board is a ridiculous process so I’m waiting until the next v12 release with the new card already installed.
Awesome video as usual. In light of your recent video on EUC fires, any idea if the batteries in the V12 are Samsung or LG (or other)?
it's EVE - like on cheap scooters unfortunately...
Ninebot used/uses EVE on their electric scooters, so I'd say it should be fine.
Te plastiki są barwione w całej objętości czy da się jakoś usunąć ciemną warstwę aby diody LED były widoczne?
Muszę sprawdzić. Wydaje się ze taki maja kolor (nie folia)
Have you ever tried removing the motor from the rim? I am having the hardest time trying to remove that one screw from the axle, as well as loosening it to remove it. It's way too locked it. Close to bolted.
Great video. Makes me feel like never wanting to open it up, though...
I'm not a mechanic, why does it have to be so complex. Why, inmotion, why?
Maybe the reason for that is the amount of water proofing. It needs to be sealed tightly.
You maybe could go under water with the V12 lol.
@@taikaherra8937 Nah, to me it looks like it's probably an artifact of their corporate structure. They must have divided up tasks with one team on each task. As a result, each component has its own casing for example.
Having too many screws is a bunch of mechanical complexity for no reason. In the vast majority of cases, you do not want to attach two parts with screws if those two parts could have just been one part.
It doesn't look complex.. it looks repair friendly, especially how it is basically all modular parts which can be replaced and are all accessible via screws.
@@BosonCollider I am also not a mechanical engineer but modularity comes with its benefits. In development you can ensure correct interfaces, focus on your module ensuring its design requirements in closed environment and for repair you can change modules. But it comes with cost of weight I would say. You could compare to GW which has just bunch of components screwed together with harness floating over sharp edges of heat sinks. Thats another extreme.
Modularity
This wheel has so many parts.. My nikola is just empty space so I can inflate with helium and be more Light..
I disagree with you on the motor wire thickness. There is really no need for the insulation to be much thicker. Just makes it much harder to manage.
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How hard can it be to do a modification to the rear panel?
Drill a bunch of holes in the panel where the rear LEDs are shining through. (it's a $20 piece anyway)
If water ingress is a concern, add a thin clear plastic sheet on the inside with glue.
Does it work ??
Don't REMEMBER left
ight side of the wheel. Just write it on the rim with a marker.
Please forgive me for my ignorance as I have a question. I’m from the New Orleans, Louisiana area, and I have never seen anyone riding one of these. But I think they’re awesome, and I want to get one by Christmas of 2022. I’m a bigger guy, over 200lbs. So, I’ve been looking at newer models with a max capacity of at least 265lbs. I’m hearing of Gotway/Begode battery fires. But I can’t figure out what exactly the issue is with the Inmotion v12. Can someone spell it out for me? That’s the one I have been looking at the most, but I’m also wanting to see what new comes out in 2022.
Very informative vidéo !
Can you tell me if the V12HT is different inside ?
I changed the tire today, and everything went smoothly. However, during the test, after reconnecting all the cables and trying to start it, the wheel immediately accelerated to almost 95 km/h. I had the bike on a stand, so the wheel wasn't touching the ground. It was extremely dangerous as it seemed like it wouldn't stop. Then a warning message appeared, and fortunately, it shut off. Now I'm afraid to start it again! What could I have done wrong? All the plugs and cables look perfect...
thanks for the video :) I wonder why my sidelights blink in reverse pattern than the app says, is there is any connector that can be reversed inside?
thank you for this. big fan of your channel.
that said, these wheels are very intimidating for the average rider (me) when considering repair. are you aware of any movement in the industry toward simpler construction and easier repair of future models? the way things are now, if we get a flat far from home, we're screwed.
I think they should at least think of a way to make tire tube changing really fast.
@@grostire wouldnt be terribly hard... make a panel to access the motor cables and make the slot larger, and another panel on either side to access the screws holding the shell to the pedal arms.... that way you could simply pop open the panels, undo a few screws and drop the motor out... still way more difficult than a bike, but easily doable while out.... im so sick of needing two hours to do a tire change on my wheels lmao
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Wszystko pasuje :)
Hey Adam! Thanks for this video! It is very useful for me considering that I am going through a tire change on my V12 HT. As you just said, I had to tear those seals up above the phase wires and now I'm thinking about resealing it but I'm not sure what is safe to use there. What would you suggest?
Whelp mine just recently cutout out on me and left me with some nice scrapes while also totalling itself. So i guess if warranty wont do anything i atleast no what im getting myself into. 1st wreck and theres no lights, sound or bluetooth
@Wrong way! my legs pad cracked at the plastc tab connecting it to the shell also the rubber ripped so within 24 hours of riding i cant put it back together
What tools are required to get the front and rear bumper off
11:50 it isn't more difficult to figure which way to put the wheel back in. You don't need to remember anything. Look at the treat pattern of the wheel, it only goes in one way.
until you change the tire and fail with the direction :D
@@LaggerSVK Haha good one, but it's probably obvious
Why hasn't anyone made a inmotion case mod to have clear plastic and allow those lights to show off. Seems simple enough to make?
If it’s not charging, where can we test? I checked the 100v output of the charger
the battery is a Chinese brand who just became the supplier for tesla
can wee remoove front and back speakers ? to lighten the weel ? The sound is terrible on mine.
hi wrongway.. I'm a fan from the Philippines.. and my place is mountainous.. do you think v12 can handle the terrain? Thanks you
Do we need to disconect batteries for inner tube replacement or only motor wires ? :)
Is the speaker wire the only red/black wire? Mine are buggin
This must be first batch production V12, right?
Also, do you know where i could by Kenda tire for this wheel in Europe?
Thanks!
Do you know if I can buy the top panel somewhere? I broke the bar under the handle with my first crash... :(
Do u need to get the battery pack off if u only change the tube?
Thank you for sharing! My question was answered, IT DOES NOT HAVE SUSPENSION.
For this price range?
I saw, us 110v and 220v. Can't be used in us They make for EU UK only 176v and 264v
Great construction quality no question, Only negative in my view: The Tiny Mosfets which are not used anymore in any perfomance wheel….guess since 2016.
Would like to see someone who is 30-35kg more heavy than you, but using it in exactly the same „michael Jackson“ style when accelerating. My guess would be those MOS wouldnt make it that long than and blow, or at least lead to severe overheating.
My guess, at least.
Mrs Crusher hasnt had that mich luck with her V12 until now….curious to see whats up with it now.
Other than that you can see that a real BIG producer is standing behind the V12. The construction and workmanship is overwhelming
so 2:30 you like the pads now? In a previous video you didn't want the pads to make it to production..
They changed them from the prototype I think. Either way only using those pads makes no sense. Only with additional 3D printed pads
Hey can you please make a good video on changing the tire on euc there's no good videos at all on this subject. It's either people doing a rant just talking about modifications and how they like a tire or they are changing the tire after already taking it out of the euc. I am shocked that no one is doing this type of video
hello bro…
i am writing to you hoping for some help from you 😔
i have an inmotion v12 but about 3 weeks ago i had an accident with my wheel and my wheel fell into a pond full of water and was submerged for about 5 minutes (water sweet)
I opened it to drain the water and leave it open for about two weeks, today I decided to put it together after two weeks but it doesn't turn on 😔
I think it could be the motherboard, do you have information on where I could get the inmotion v12 motherboard ?? or what you think? do you think it could turn on again?
now I am living in denmark… thank you in advance 😔
Strange that there is nowhere information about what cells are installed. Hope there are built in which can deliver enough power otherwise the battery will unfortunately not last long.
It seems it's EVE...((( see 11:33
I have a battery issue after one month of use on my v12 and have been told in 2 months I’ll be getting a new battery free from the warranty. This is great however I will have to fix it myself. I have no idea how I’m going to do this, does anyone know what I should do?
Wrooong waaay... 😅😂
Are you going to put it back together?
Yes it’s already assembled
It is well made and bad made at the same time, i mean well made for the solidity/rigidity, IP rating, part can be buy and replace separately... but very bad made for parts replacement it is a mess just for the tire. Compagny should find a way to replace those tire in 15min or less like clip in lock with short wires and rubbers around it... Not everyone can replace a tire by themselves so going to a repair center will cost a lots more for this kind of wheel because of the time removing the screws and disassembling everything compared to a RS19 which took me 35min replacing the tire and 40min for my EXN.
the wheel certainly has build qualities but some things are just meh. I have understanding that there is no need to make tire change as convenient as on bike. But having to disassemble whole cable harness and reapply silicon to the connector just for a purpose of change tire? Really? What we need is cosmetic side plastics that would clip on or atleast screw with metric screws. Minimum number of L-hanger screws and a motor connector in close vicinity to axle. That would satisfy me.
@@LaggerSVK Totally agree they should make it just easier for the customer to replace the tire, this is usually the part we replace the more often, so if you have to take half a day for replacing a tire it is a shame and half day without riding
What production batch is this v12? Are they still on batch 1?
I am interested in the battery packs. Can you open up the battery packs and replace the batteries??
Mosfets on heatsink :O
This shit can go on a lava field without overheating.
Joke aside
11:32 battery Model code probably: LX (V12) (88V) ; barcode: serial number ; 24INR22/71-2 is probably battery type and pallet nr. If I counted right it should contain 192 pcs. of 18650(or thicker) cells. I am not familiar with EVE batteries, but I would be safe to assume half the lifetime of an LG/Sanyo-panasonic/samsung cell.
I would avoid the HT version as it should wear out the batteries even faster (except if you do competitive off-roading or don't care about your pocket/environment).
Hi Dear Wrong Way, This charger can charge for EXTREME BULL Commander, Kinsong S20 and V12 ? Thanks Your Video
It can except the S20
Looks tidy. Onion ay..ha. perhaps a long job that explains beard growth and wrooog way not getting an energetic sing in voice over.
Good work. :)
This tiny shell plastic, cheapest non industrial bearing and damaged wires (ecodrift has disassemble V12 with damaged wires too ) makes me cringe.
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the thing with these EUCs is a quality, they are nowhere near as good constructed as Mountain Bikes for example. The engineering, cabling, layout, frame, materials etc... is pretty low level. Definitely need some western companies to start making EUCs.
Very true
You get what you pay for.
@@jdbergan that's a typical BS people telling. You never get what you pay for, you always pay more. want me to explain how market works?... real cost is aways 1/3 or maximum half...
@@shalvami Agreed. I recently read an article and a manufacture of speed pedelecs said they overprice because the market is small.
how do you even compare EUCs to mountain bikes? Mountain bikes don't have a shell\case, everything is just attached to the frame.
Thank god I didn’t buy this wheel