+24OscarM yea i agree.. Also good to see they havent limited the location like they seem to do on their website.. They are turning into mainstream news very quickly.. Vice = CNN
Laughed out loud at one point... all other issues aside, I feel horrible for that poor guy at the booth who just spilled his client list out to a reporter. I mean it's awesome for the public to know this of course, but that poor guy is gonna get in major trouble!
One of the best Vice reporters. No fake hype rambling bs. Just a good old fashioned story with polite interviews. Get's you a lot farther than the bomb shell interview style most other Vice reporters use.
Ive worked around westminster as a telecoms tech, never any parking, your IMSI catchers ARE on the rooftops, plastic trees and inside false chimneys, what you think is an old BT hub is actually an old disused BT owned buildng which is leased to EE, other networks and the Police to put their own equipment inside or around the building. The catchers are a small dish with a small plastic black ariel which feeds into the base station for POWER ONLY ! The actual signal, where that goes is beyond me, they were not ALLOWED TO be touched. The equipment in the Base station can have many networks going into it, it may be an EE base station but will have many other networks going through the same base station sharing equipment and leasing off the base provider usually old one to one now EE. London Centre is FULL and I mean Brimming with Telecoms equipment, the technology is unreal ! and far beyond my own comprehension
Thank you for your honesty. All these illegal activitys will have extreme consequences come d day for the scum involved in doing this to us Good Human Beings. Us good Human Beings are not told about these disgraceful activitys and our Earthly life times are wrongly effected. Come d day for those involved they will reap what they sow from there Earthly life time Amen xxxxxxx Father Jesus sees all and he hears all Amen xxxxxxx it shall all even itself out in this life time the next or both on Father Jesus name Amen xxxxxxx
+Krilln This shit reminds me the days of soviet union, we had signal blockers for media from the west, it was hard to find western radio stations, full of static.
These protests aren't that productive. It basically just boils down to, "oh noes the feds are looking at my internet history". I mean wtf do these edgelords hope to achieve? For the feds to just go like, "ok anon you is winrar, we will stop monitoring you now". Accept it, we live in the age of technology, get used to being monitored because there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Unless you go live in some shithole country like N. Korea.
Jev Laa Correct. We're no longer in the age of swords and muskets. What do you suggest we could do? An armed rebellion? Give me a fucking break. There's nothing we could do about it. Just like there's nothing we could do about lying politicians, world hunger, wars. Give up the dream of somehow achieving world justice and liberty, no one has the power to do that, not you, not me and definitely not our internet virgin haxxor heroes anoneemoose.
It's amazing people asking street cops these type of questions, do you really think the ones who are doing these things are going to tell the shit ? The real people doing it lie to your face and you say nothing. Politicians make the rules make money from their shit but nobody is following them around with cameras
Most cops are just happy to have a job like everyone else, which has become the corrupt heart of capitalism. Keep job growth slow so you can keep employee output high.
+Mansion Video I actually feel sorry for the British police. Theresa May is cutting all their money, holiday, salaries, and yet they are not legally allowed to strike or protest. They have to sit there and get fucked by the government and THEN they have to protect the very people fucking them over. The police are hated by both the public and the government. Who'd want a job like that? That officer who said that it was above his paygrade is wise enough to say nothing. If he said anything at all, he'd lose his job faster than he could blink.
Dialing , , , 4,6,3,6, , , , , then clicking 'phone information' on newer versions of Android brings up one of the developer menus, and you can see if you've got an IMSI catcher near your home. There are also apps that can do what that laptop+cellphone setup can do. Google will explain what you're looking at on the screen, but don't change any settings or you might break things...
+David Kennerly I think the documentary misses the point like you do, but I think the REAL point here is that the technologies we rely on are vulnerable to anyone with 20,000 euros. This also includes other governments, for instance.
So what's stopping wealthy private contractors from buying this kind of equipment and using it for their own personal gain? Are there really no laws in place to prevent abuse and misuse? I want one.
The chinese guy has a mandarin accent, Hong Konger speak Cantonese and for sure that is not a Cantonese accent. I doubt his company is base in Hong Kong but rather in China
VICE News searches London for IMSI catchers, then goes shopping at a state security fair, and finally finds a shady technology company who'll sell us the spy gear. Read “VICE News Investigation Finds Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London” - bit.ly/1Q7Rome
Watching this in 2021 and i'm so glad i did. I never knew the item existed. I can imagine what kind of tech they have now if they were using this 5yrs ago. What kinda chance do we have?
Obviously no one will just admit to using police equipment in front of a camera lol. They themselves aren't allowed to discuss it outside the briefing room. 😂😂
30-40 GRAND? What total bs, you can catch imei and imsi numbers with a £10 RTL-SDR dongle, and they charge 30+ grand, what a ripoff, government muppets
I would prefer this technology in the hands of ordinary people than in the hands of any psychopathic state. Also this technology clearly has no role in counter-terrorism.
Thanks for good content Vice, about damn time we got back to something thats informative (yet scary). Instead of the traditional news method of trying to scare us and then having the investigation be a side thought.
Can imsy catchers or is there similar equipment that can intercept calls on apps such as what's app or some sort of app ? Can they listen to voice notes there also? Or is this purely phones and just calls and messages because its intercepted through the network provider?
internet spying is awful in the UK, I used to watch porn on my university lane in the dorm and they immediately told me to stop, insane! how can a young boy go without porn!?
Hey honey be home at 10pm or We attack at 10pm I don't care if its all spied on! As long as they capture the latter! But also agree it shouldn't be used everywhere
I'm less concerned about LE having these capabilities and more concerned with "bad actors" getting their grubby little paws on these technologies for nefarious purposes.
How about using 3g or 4 g networks via cdma will that be able to prevent IMSI scans or are further "bulletproofing" methods required in order to fully encrypt the phone and make it untraceable ? FREEDOM TO THE PEOPLE MIDDLE FINGER TO THE BOBBIES AND LOBBIES
Although forecasting is a method of detecting IMSI catchers they tend to find a lot of false positives. He should use an RF receiver instead of observing which cell towers the phone is communicating with.
Ok its kind of reasonable for the police to have access to this technology, what isn't reasonable is the lack of accountability, they won't even disclose how their using it.
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i am going back to sending messages through pigeons
+Nishit Raj Use stronger encryption.
+Nishit Raj But the Germans can use birds of prey to "intercept" your messages...
re use the enigma code they'll never see it coming no one's used it in forever
Hanzutt Jord Like encrypted pigeons ? That's an idea bomb man ;P
+Nishit Raj or text in Glaswegian slang
I'm glad we still get good Vice content once in a while...
+ShittyMusicGorilla hahhhahahaha. Very rare that an internet comment even brings the slightest grin. This is very very funny lol
+24OscarM yea i agree.. Also good to see they havent limited the location like they seem to do on their website.. They are turning into mainstream news very quickly.. Vice = CNN
It's weird how Vice supports and almost never investigates the US, but does interesting investigations outside if the US.
+ShittyMusicGorilla heh!
+24OscarM Vice has turned really bad, so sad.
"It's above my pay grade" AKA we know about the operation, but we've been told to mind our business and stick to the streets.
LethalDosage Lmaoo.
Hate to tell you all, they would not brief a beat cop about such an operation.
Laughed out loud at one point... all other issues aside, I feel horrible for that poor guy at the booth who just spilled his client list out to a reporter. I mean it's awesome for the public to know this of course, but that poor guy is gonna get in major trouble!
for sure!
He seemed like a high level employee who didn't care what happened. He probably has skills that are critically vital to the business.
Why does it matter? So, now you know some of their clients, how does that change things?
+wantafanta01 that is very true, they should have blurred them.
+wantafanta01 that is very true, they should have blurred them.
One of the best Vice reporters. No fake hype rambling bs. Just a good old fashioned story with polite interviews. Get's you a lot farther than the bomb shell interview style most other Vice reporters use.
Naked Acres a good example of a bad Vice reporter is that Hamilton dude, he's off the scale when it comes patronising people😒 You know what I mean?
"Stingray? Like a shark?"
10/10
A lot less suspicious than that above my pay grade bs
"or a stingray?"
"Like a shark?"
that one didn't know anything
"we provide it to the "good guys" what a joke
They just patent it and keep it to themselves Google patent US3951134A
Ive worked around westminster as a telecoms tech, never any parking, your IMSI catchers ARE on the rooftops, plastic trees and inside false chimneys, what you think is an old BT hub is actually an old disused BT owned buildng which is leased to EE, other networks and the Police to put their own equipment inside or around the building.
The catchers are a small dish with a small plastic black ariel which feeds into the base station for POWER ONLY ! The actual signal, where that goes is beyond me, they were not ALLOWED TO be touched. The equipment in the Base station can have many networks going into it, it may be an EE base station but will have many other networks going through the same base station sharing equipment and leasing off the base provider usually old one to one now EE.
London Centre is FULL and I mean Brimming with Telecoms equipment, the technology is unreal ! and far beyond my own comprehension
Thank you for your honesty. All these illegal activitys will have extreme consequences come d day for the scum involved in doing this to us Good Human Beings. Us good Human Beings are not told about these disgraceful activitys and our Earthly life times are wrongly effected. Come d day for those involved they will reap what they sow from there Earthly life time Amen xxxxxxx Father Jesus sees all and he hears all Amen xxxxxxx it shall all even itself out in this life time the next or both on Father Jesus name Amen xxxxxxx
This is some 1984 ass shit. What's next? They're going to name Great Britain airstrip 1 now? We gonna have telescreens?
+Krilln This shit reminds me the days of soviet union, we had signal blockers for media from the west, it was hard to find western radio stations, full of static.
+Krilln They are called Smart TV's these days.
+matheoo41
...or software upgrades.
+Krilln www.bbc.com/news/technology-31296188
+Krilln We already have telescreens man - they're called smartphones.
I wish the US would protest this hard.
+LazyAssassin180 That was about race matters. I meant protesting about our privacy. Honestly a lot of other things also.
If they protest even as half aggressive as this then the us will send in the national guard straight away
These protests aren't that productive. It basically just boils down to, "oh noes the feds are looking at my internet history". I mean wtf do these edgelords hope to achieve? For the feds to just go like, "ok anon you is winrar, we will stop monitoring you now". Accept it, we live in the age of technology, get used to being monitored because there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Unless you go live in some shithole country like N. Korea.
Jev Laa Correct. We're no longer in the age of swords and muskets. What do you suggest we could do? An armed rebellion? Give me a fucking break. There's nothing we could do about it. Just like there's nothing we could do about lying politicians, world hunger, wars. Give up the dream of somehow achieving world justice and liberty, no one has the power to do that, not you, not me and definitely not our internet virgin haxxor heroes anoneemoose.
+CHRISTIAN HERNAN your blatant homophobia is showing.
This is really good reporting. We need more of this!
r.i.p severus snape (alan rickman) :(
I didn't see that coming. Thought he had a good few years left.
The internet is slowly turning the world into an anarchy.
It's amazing people asking street cops these type of questions, do you really think the ones who are doing these things are going to tell the shit ? The real people doing it lie to your face and you say nothing. Politicians make the rules make money from their shit but nobody is following them around with cameras
+paisleyyama Well said
Most cops are just happy to have a job like everyone else, which has become the corrupt heart of capitalism. Keep job growth slow so you can keep employee output high.
+Mansion Video I actually feel sorry for the British police. Theresa May is cutting all their money, holiday, salaries, and yet they are not legally allowed to strike or protest. They have to sit there and get fucked by the government and THEN they have to protect the very people fucking them over.
The police are hated by both the public and the government. Who'd want a job like that?
That officer who said that it was above his paygrade is wise enough to say nothing. If he said anything at all, he'd lose his job faster than he could blink.
PIGs (persons in govs)are all satanists and serves satan.
+Branko Brankov Your posting a comment like I give a shit what you think.
Cant confirm or deny it? Already said too much
Typical VICE video, it makes it look like the UK is in civil war when its just a couple of 100 people protesting lol.
That's your opinion. Do not state it as fact.
Dialing , , , 4,6,3,6, , , , , then clicking 'phone information' on newer versions of Android brings up one of the developer menus, and you can see if you've got an IMSI catcher near your home. There are also apps that can do what that laptop+cellphone setup can do.
Google will explain what you're looking at on the screen, but don't change any settings or you might break things...
Andrew Todd how to contact you??
I stopped watching when the interviewer went off on the "is it available to private companies?" rant. As if we should fear the government less.
+David Kennerly I think the documentary misses the point like you do, but I think the REAL point here is that the technologies we rely on are vulnerable to anyone with 20,000 euros. This also includes other governments, for instance.
its already over in the US people here don't care about privacy. hopefully its not too late for your country.
wpaia Of corse it too late for Britain.
I think most people believe "if you've nothing to hide - you've nothing to fear" mentality.
So what's stopping wealthy private contractors from buying this kind of equipment and using it for their own personal gain? Are there really no laws in place to prevent abuse and misuse?
I want one.
They are meant to be strictly sold to law enforcments only but you can get them on the deep web.
"and then with Israel"
i bursted out laughing on this lol
A stingray? Like a shark?? Fuck me dead!!!! I have alot of faith in the police system now!!
"Stingray? Like a shark?"
Hahahaha...not even close bruv!
"they sell new technology to the good guys (government)" ah.ah..ahahhahahahaha government = good guys... i'm sure they are not
Some people who have raised taxes are better people than a school shooter, so yes they are the good guys
wtf... the people who steal from other's and call it taxation, are as bad as the guy who shoot's people in school. both use violence and coercion
The Stingray has been around for quite a while, but it's pretty nice seeing that now we're raising awareness about this
The chinese guy has a mandarin accent, Hong Konger speak Cantonese and for sure that is not a Cantonese accent. I doubt his company is base in Hong Kong but rather in China
While I was at college some kids built one and intercepted all of the text messages on campus. Anyone with $2000 can build one.
LMAO at the dude just strolling round with a laptop 🤣
Love the stickers on Richey's laptop 😂
That guy doing the inverview was so uncomfortable, you can tell he was thinking ''why did I agree to this"
Nice to see a hard-hitting and non-polemic Vice documentary!
VICE News searches London for IMSI catchers, then goes shopping at a state security fair, and finally finds a shady technology company who'll sell us the spy gear.
Read “VICE News Investigation Finds Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London” - bit.ly/1Q7Rome
Lester before he moved to USA
Nice hiding the voice recorder under that book...haha
Watching this in 2021 and i'm so glad i did. I never knew the item existed. I can imagine what kind of tech they have now if they were using this 5yrs ago. What kinda chance do we have?
"Stingray like a shark" wtf😳😭
Interesting film and I just realised this film is 5 years old, I wonder where we are now during this pandemic?
Didn't fucking batman have this tech in the dark knight?
I don’t think anyone realizes quite how real this all is! All while thinking they do
Obviously no one will just admit to using police equipment in front of a camera lol. They themselves aren't allowed to discuss it outside the briefing room. 😂😂
Good journalism Vice, good job! You see less and less of that everyday that passes by but this one was good!
30-40 GRAND? What total bs, you can catch imei and imsi numbers with a £10 RTL-SDR dongle, and they charge 30+ grand, what a ripoff, government muppets
I like the way some of the people were so open about it. It's true, it's like any other weapon, it depends how you use it.
On the flip side, you'd be the first to find fault for lack of security when there is a terrorist incident
Yes! Athelstan has returned as an investigative reporter. My favourite Anglo-Saxon priest should never have been killed off.
I would prefer this technology in the hands of ordinary people than in the hands of any psychopathic state. Also this technology clearly has no role in counter-terrorism.
1:52 Hello Russell Brand aha
+Borgnrox Oh shit yeah
all fun and games until u see them list ur police deparement as being a client ahah
Linux... linux everywhere
They are not stupid enough to use windows.
@Matt Faraday better than nothing, but a ubuntu VM on a mac to do some cybersecurity is sad, just boot linux directly
"Our joub is to provide 'good guys' this equipment"
Who are really those 'good guys'?
5 years. millions of people marching. Nothing happened. It got worse...nothing happened. Well done guys.
Thanks for good content Vice, about damn time we got back to something thats informative (yet scary). Instead of the traditional news method of trying to scare us and then having the investigation be a side thought.
If you look at the left corner @6:41 you can actually see them being personally surveilled. Nice cover.
I'm going onto Alibaba to see if 'Edward' has anymore IMSIE catchers. I think my girlfriend might be cheating...
IMSI catchers don't work with newer versions of GSM - although it's possible to force fallbacks.
There's a sticker on this guy's laptop that says, 'stand with Snowden.' lol
Is the software that Richard is using open source? I wanna use it myself
just search it on github
Great information, hope to see more on these kinds of topics!
Thanks for people like Richie
Britain for the world! England is an universal language. They should export these fine British technologies worldwide.
Can imsy catchers or is there similar equipment that can intercept calls on apps such as what's app or some sort of app ? Can they listen to voice notes there also? Or is this purely phones and just calls and messages because its intercepted through the network provider?
Whelp, better start using carrier Pigeons.
don't know how Rick Ross did it when he said he's selling dope straight from the iPhone
internet spying is awful in the UK, I used to watch porn on my university lane in the dorm and they immediately told me to stop, insane! how can a young boy go without porn!?
What program was that man using on his MacBook air
Ubuntu
Hey honey be home at 10pm
or
We attack at 10pm
I don't care if its all spied on! As long as they capture the latter! But also agree it shouldn't be used everywhere
Imizy catchers yeah good luck getting into a black phone, wickr and proton mail 😂😂😂😂
Going back to Walkie Talkies and CB Radio's.
and here i was thinking the deleting my search history was gonna leave the government with no clues
Voice to skull is above their pay grade too
Lol. "Providing the good guys technical advantage"
Sting ray? Like a shark?
No Tyrone.
Finally a real VICE video that I subscribed for.
if someone asks I am a pathological liar on the phone.
Just like politics
Awesome report, Vice. Please do more like these!
3:53, thanks!
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The guy Richard reminds me of Lester in gta 5
I'm less concerned about LE having these capabilities and more concerned with "bad actors" getting their grubby little paws on these technologies for nefarious purposes.
Still think that? 🤔
How about using 3g or 4 g networks via cdma will that be able to prevent IMSI scans or are further "bulletproofing" methods required in order to fully encrypt the phone and make it untraceable ? FREEDOM TO THE PEOPLE MIDDLE FINGER TO THE BOBBIES AND LOBBIES
hahah "Sting Ray?" "like a shark?"
A stingray? ...like a shark? Lost my shit.
Lmao!!! "Stingray?? Like a shark??"
Dystopian future, not a clishe any more. And still no hover board :(
Ring those guys up that talked,see if they are still on their payroll.
This is very frightening
The genie is out of bottle, there is no putting it back in.
good report!
That black cop knows about them “ like a shark?” Haha yea right.
The guy pretending he knows hadn’t a clue
Thats just crazy the amount of data they collect, and all the computers and such to store all that information
They store it on supercomputer
I only use IPoAC for my internet connections, packet loss ratio is a bit high and the response time is a bit long but quite good other than that
Well done 👌
Although forecasting is a method of detecting IMSI catchers they tend to find a lot of false positives. He should use an RF receiver instead of observing which cell towers the phone is communicating with.
Ok its kind of reasonable for the police to have access to this technology, what isn't reasonable is the lack of accountability, they won't even disclose how their using it.
Voice to skull is being used and nothing is being talked about
how about not wearing a phone on the protest?
behind the cameraman is a complex full of armor and munitions and some people are complaining about telecommunications hackers -_-
These people and their industry is disgusting.
Australia. Hold our beers.
‘A string ray? Like a shark’