Tremendous racing, as we have come to expect. Thank you very kindly, LV37. I wish I had more upvotes to give you. But I also wish you'd expose more data for us, so that during the not-quite-so-exciting moments we can see the hydraulic pressure levels, the boats' VMGs, the fly-heights, the cant angles, Ladder lines, headings... WE CAN HANDLE IT, GUYS. TRULY, WE CAN! IT WON'T CAUSE OUR BRAINS TO EXPLODE!
Agree! Agree! But we LOSE data at times when the annunciations switch from speed to distance to leader/loser. Every time we have to recalibrate what we're being shown and switch to a new way of thinking. There's plenty of water at the bottom of the screen that could be overlaid with data. Yes, we can handle it, truly. But the commentary... Shirley is the best with insightful snippets but even she makes comments grounded in her experience, but often falls short. Everyone!, pretend you're speaking to novices: fill out your comments - "A righty" - wtf is that to the majority of viewers? Remind them/us of where the top of the course is - btw, 'the right (side) is ALWAYS the right - never 'as we're looking at it' - the right is the right and the left is the left. Put symbols in the advertising banner that surround the course. If a hull dips into the water just getting wet, why does that matter? Explain that it's a consequence of low power, bad sheeting, or a drop in the breeze, all that can lead to lower speed. Or not. Broaden your commentary, as though we're novices. And yes, as others have said here on Ytub, put in the wind please. Faint arrows that don't distract but give us context; we're not there! Btw, does the crew have weather graphics? Do they have special data? Tell us, please! The four skippers shot: just at the end there was the four quads shot with ETNZ words across the MIDDLE! WHAT was ETNZ?? Who was who? No names this time, but do we have to remember who's on what team constantly anyway? Have any of the techs here had a Zoom conference? Ever noticed that the speaker gets surrounded by a green border? If someone is speaking, we want to know who it is. And if someone is speaking, we want to hear them speak! If you're commentating, SHUT UP! Do commentators at the tennis keep chatting during a point? You bet they don't. So don't talk over the skippers, and resume when they stop. Have any of you seen Bohemian Rhapsody? Remember the sliders shot at the stadium? If someone's commentating, making a pertinent point, slide the skippers' voices down for the moment - we can't listen to everyone talking! Then switch back to the skippers, use skippers' pauses and interpret what they're saying and who they are. Otherwise it can be meaningless, out of context, boat chatter. Use audio intelligently, please!! Not once have I heard anyone reiterate the schedule - Round Robin 1, Round Robin 2, Louis Vuitton (who is he..), - who gets eliminated, and why is ETNZ participating and taking points from a challenger who might take one? NZ's points are vapid, they mean what? They evaporate. Explain please. There's plenty to say, and you may do it more than once. More...
Exciting! Go team NZ. I also wish Team NZ would bring the race back to NZ admitedly with less money. But money is not the main factor here, so go back to NZ
For anyone unfamiliar with Britain's significant role in the history of the America's Cup. The America's Cup first started 173 years ago with a race between Great Britain and the USA around the Isle of Wight. The Brits lost to the Americans, and a British team has never won the event since.
It didnt help that the rules changed and the challengers were required to sail their yacht to the regata . . So overseas boats had to be built stronger and heavier to handle an ocean voyage . Then race . . . As many know . . NYC were good at setting and interpreting rules . .
@@rogerreed905 It wasn't until 2021 when defender ETNZ introduced a standard design for all America's Cup and challenger boat designs. Essentially the only non standard hardware elements remain sails and foils.
@@rogerreed905 America sailed to La Harve France to finished being outfitted and repainted in early July 1851. Arrived in Cowes in late August to race for the 100 Guineas Cup. Interestingly enough, America got hung up on their anchor and spent the first 2 hours of the race trying to catch up. Ended the race 22 minutes ahead of the next yacht. America was built strong but not to heavy, and as far as I know (could be wrong), the rest of the competition were from UK. America also introduced new technology sails made of cotton laced to the spars, instead of flax sails using mast hoops. America could point to windward considerably higher than the competition. NYYC also hired Robert Underwood, a British pilot, for local knowledge of the course.
they never split tak.... do somebody explain to them how to do matchrace? THey are the opposite of Luna Rossa that sometime slip away chasing the wind..... I always see Brittannia chasing other ships while enjoying dirty air. I'm puzzled, it must be a reason for that.
Matt, could you do a short video explaining what jobs the 4 sailors are doing each race (unless cyclors are also trimming) given that 2 sails, foils, ride height, rudder, helming, etc all need doing, cheers
@@Terra_Lopez because he is a Pompous Ass who has let his title Go to his head and therefore thinks that his farts smell like roses , Sir Ben Ainslie is a figment of his imagination when he thinks that victory shoud be his by royal decree , he keeps getting outsmarted and out sailed by the most humble person I have had the pleasure to meet , so yes I do not like Ben Effing Ainslie and I take pleasure in seeing him being beaten . Cheers
FWIW, Cyclor RPM doesn’t tell you anything. Cyclor 5-second POWER (watts) does, as long as you show total Cyclor output. You can be turning big RPMs and not working hard. But it’s power that counts. I’ve been asking for Cyclor power since the start and they only showed a couple snapshots. And we don’t need instantaneous power, either, which will jump around too much to make anything of it. 3 or 5 second wattage and, because one can only wish 😊, a total wattage and normalized power at the end would be nice. “Normalized power” is a cycling training term that integrates average power with power peaks and tells you more about the nature of the work than simple average power. (Racing cyclist and coach here.) 😅
Who is the lead commentator? He makes so many observations that are wrong. TNZ they might be able to finish that second leg in 1, but proceeded to throw in an extra gybe, and the commentator states they did it in one. I may be being pedantic, but surely a sailing commentator has "some" knowledge of sailing and not just making it up as he goes along.
"How much of boat's maneuvering process is effected by the crew compared to the boat's systems?" "yeah, the crew are involved and work really hard on the design and the relationship's really important," WTF? Great question, useless answer, thanks team. .
@@General_Crock I’m not sure if you remember Peter Montgomery the NZ sports commentator for the America’s Cup. He was classy and knew what he was talking about and well respected throughout this sporting event, and actually any other sport he commentated, no bias, just a true lover of sports and told it like it was in a very gentlemen manner.
Yes, and for some reason they only seem to see what has happened a few seconds after we see it. Whether it's coming off the foils, coming on the foils, or lead changes, they seem to almost always be a few seconds too late in their commentry.
AM & Ineos have really gone out on a limb in their designs. Can’t blame the sailors for that. Emirates TNZ & Luna Rossa seem more forgiving boats in their designs.
In the prestart, please show more shots including the two boats and the start line. I know there are loads of cameras on board, but the point of the coverage is to tell the story. In sailing, that means where the boats are in relation to each other and the next make. Visualize elastic always pulling you to a wide angle shot of both boats. There has to be something compelling to pull you away from that shot.
Why do they mix up all the measurements? Distance of race measured in Nautical miles, distance gap measured in meters. Sail area measured in square cubits and alcoholic drinks measured in 1/6th of a gill. I am waiting for somebody to refer to the distance to the bar in fathoms or nautical furlongs. 😅😅😅😅
Nothing wrong with INEOS' speed in this race, just couldn't turn or stay on their foils. Now they've fixed those things, they'll be liking their chances in the Cup itself.
I thought ineos had a good night, great win over magic and a solid race here. LR will have an interesting decision. A great day for Alinghi also. Magic would have some cause for concern and need to find something.
Ineos Britannia is looking very impressive. Ineos Britannia made an outstanding impression in the start box. Perhaps they had good manoeuvrability compared to Luna Rossa, hence they were conservative in the start box.
This is not boat racing that people can relate to. Wind power control is now virtually irrelevant. It is technology show off time. Opaque to the actual on site viewer as many Barcelona residents have said. A TV game with a virtual perimeter. A stupid F1 in boats carnival. A video game.
looks like Brittannia is the opposite of Luna Rossa... They always FOLLOW they opponent, even if when you are behind you MUST split the tak..... I really don't understand them, they already have a slow speed in light wind what comes out following the opponent in dirty air? Oh... they seems to forgot that their boat doesn't like to loose too much speed and splash down. In my humble opinion it's a boat build for strong wind, so you need to keep tak at bare minimun at the start, don't engage in fancy duel and please lord keep her straight on a different tak..... Taking duel doesn't look like a strong point too, and its coeherent to her desider to always go fast and straight.
BURLING. Need to make the boat go faster. Faster. boat it make àn easy job.....I know Luna Rosa, can make it means Luna Rosa can win the Americas cup this year 2024 for sure.
The boat is fast the tactics are good and the team is solid. Only one thing wrong with Ineos, the gybes are poor. Something is not sequencing with all the nessecary order of the adjustments. Not like a swiss watch more like McGyver home made rat trap
Great job Kiwi teàm. Great job.❤❤
Tremendous racing, as we have come to expect. Thank you very kindly, LV37. I wish I had more upvotes to give you.
But I also wish you'd expose more data for us, so that during the not-quite-so-exciting moments we can see the hydraulic pressure levels, the boats' VMGs, the fly-heights, the cant angles, Ladder lines, headings...
WE CAN HANDLE IT, GUYS. TRULY, WE CAN! IT WON'T CAUSE OUR BRAINS TO EXPLODE!
100% Agree. There used to be a full ribbon of data in prior cups
Amen! I second that.
Agree! Agree! But we LOSE data at times when the annunciations switch from speed to distance to leader/loser. Every time we have to recalibrate what we're being shown and switch to a new way of thinking.
There's plenty of water at the bottom of the screen that could be overlaid with data. Yes, we can handle it, truly.
But the commentary... Shirley is the best with insightful snippets but even she makes comments grounded in her experience, but often falls short. Everyone!, pretend you're speaking to novices: fill out your comments - "A righty" - wtf is that to the majority of viewers? Remind them/us of where the top of the course is - btw, 'the right (side) is ALWAYS the right - never 'as we're looking at it' - the right is the right and the left is the left. Put symbols in the advertising banner that surround the course.
If a hull dips into the water just getting wet, why does that matter? Explain that it's a consequence of low power, bad sheeting, or a drop in the breeze, all that can lead to lower speed. Or not. Broaden your commentary, as though we're novices.
And yes, as others have said here on Ytub, put in the wind please. Faint arrows that don't distract but give us context; we're not there! Btw, does the crew have weather graphics? Do they have special data? Tell us, please!
The four skippers shot: just at the end there was the four quads shot with ETNZ words across the MIDDLE! WHAT was ETNZ?? Who was who? No names this time, but do we have to remember who's on what team constantly anyway? Have any of the techs here had a Zoom conference? Ever noticed that the speaker gets surrounded by a green border? If someone is speaking, we want to know who it is. And if someone is speaking, we want to hear them speak! If you're commentating, SHUT UP! Do commentators at the tennis keep chatting during a point? You bet they don't. So don't talk over the skippers, and resume when they stop.
Have any of you seen Bohemian Rhapsody? Remember the sliders shot at the stadium? If someone's commentating, making a pertinent point, slide the skippers' voices down for the moment - we can't listen to everyone talking! Then switch back to the skippers, use skippers' pauses and interpret what they're saying and who they are. Otherwise it can be meaningless, out of context, boat chatter. Use audio intelligently, please!!
Not once have I heard anyone reiterate the schedule - Round Robin 1, Round Robin 2, Louis Vuitton (who is he..), - who gets eliminated, and why is ETNZ participating and taking points from a challenger who might take one? NZ's points are vapid, they mean what? They evaporate. Explain please. There's plenty to say, and you may do it more than once.
More...
Exciting! Go team NZ. I also wish Team NZ would bring the race back to NZ admitedly with less money. But money is not the main factor here, so go back to NZ
What a beautiful boat ETNZ. champions.
The opening 20 seconds wow. Taihoro, she looks beautiful elegant and a force to be reckoned
Beautiful racing great skill boats pumping lots of support to Team New Zealand 🇳🇿 👏 🎉 👍
Big learnings for Ineos to be had on those turns. Hopefully, they can stop that bow dropping so quickly!
Learnings isn't a word.
@ardwych4881 nope... but it is a saying :)
Not Worried...We won game over 😜💪
Kiwis are just to to to to to to bloody GOOD 😊👍🏼
Ohhh! And the aussie fella 😜👍🏼
Yes, but Luna Rose managed to beat them handily yesterday! Looks like a big challenge for the NZ team.
@@Terra_Lopez I think the final will be Luna Rossa, vs Emirates, and its going to be epic
Just look out for FRANCE 💝💝💝
Oh yeah !!!!!
@@Terra_Lopezwhat comes first the chicken or the egg? apparently chickens😂😂
For anyone unfamiliar with Britain's significant role in the history of the America's Cup. The America's Cup first started 173 years ago with a race between Great Britain and the USA around the Isle of Wight. The Brits lost to the Americans, and a British team has never won the event since.
It didnt help that the rules changed and the challengers were required to sail their yacht to the regata . . So overseas boats had to be built stronger and heavier to handle an ocean voyage . Then race . . . As many know . . NYC were good at setting and interpreting rules . .
@@rogerreed905 It wasn't until 2021 when defender ETNZ introduced a standard design for all America's Cup and challenger boat designs. Essentially the only non standard hardware elements remain sails and foils.
@@rogerreed905 America sailed to La Harve France to finished being outfitted and repainted in early July 1851. Arrived in Cowes in late August to race for the 100 Guineas Cup. Interestingly enough, America got hung up on their anchor and spent the first 2 hours of the race trying to catch up. Ended the race 22 minutes ahead of the next yacht.
America was built strong but not to heavy, and as far as I know (could be wrong), the rest of the competition were from UK. America also introduced new technology sails made of cotton laced to the spars, instead of flax sails using mast hoops. America could point to windward considerably higher than the competition. NYYC also hired Robert Underwood, a British pilot, for local knowledge of the course.
@@CaptainRon1913thanx Captain -!
Always good NZL but Ineos twice out the foils is a pity. Perhaps a psychological suffer about Ineos. Too rush in the first maneuver
First tack & it’s like Ainsley *enjoys* snorting kiwi gas
they never split tak.... do somebody explain to them how to do matchrace? THey are the opposite of Luna Rossa that sometime slip away chasing the wind..... I always see Brittannia chasing other ships while enjoying dirty air. I'm puzzled, it must be a reason for that.
Awesome newz Avi, thnx for bringing in new Light for the public to attain the truth...Hats offvto yhis amazing young journalist...WELL DONE !
AWESOME BOYS 💪💯..KIWI'S❤ KIWI'S❤KIWI'S ❤..TOGOOD & MADE HISTORY YEE HAAAAA...
Great job BURLING Nathan Blair and Maloney and the rest of the team.❤❤❤❤😊
Matt, could you do a short video explaining what jobs the 4 sailors are doing each race (unless cyclors are also trimming) given that 2 sails, foils, ride height, rudder, helming, etc all need doing, cheers
Yes, that would be great!
The commentary is sorely lacking.
Could someone tell McIvor how to pronounce VUITTON properly as well.
Sir Pompous got another lesson in sailing from the Kiwis 👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
And they’re got a Formula 1 partnership with funding from Billionaires.
Will Ineos Britannia be the challenger.
And what say ye Mr Ainslie.
Why do you call him Sir Pompous?
@@Terra_Lopez He’s not pompous. And he’s admitted humbly about the boats pace. For me the problems are more with the design team and not Ben.
@@Terra_Lopez because he is a Pompous Ass who has let his title Go to his head and therefore thinks that his farts smell like roses , Sir Ben Ainslie is a figment of his imagination when he thinks that victory shoud be his by royal decree , he keeps getting outsmarted and out sailed by the most humble person I have had the pleasure to meet , so yes I do not like Ben Effing Ainslie and I take pleasure in seeing him being beaten .
Cheers
Come back here once you become the most successful sailor in the history of the Olympic games.
Excellent.
as a kiwi i obviously back etnz 100% but i gotta say that INEOS ac75 looks good!!
very sleek. nice lines.
We need a cyclor cam so we can see how hard these boys work and what RPM there at.
They need a permanent dash board with knots, distance apart, wind speed/directions and cyclor RPM
FWIW, Cyclor RPM doesn’t tell you anything. Cyclor 5-second POWER (watts) does, as long as you show total Cyclor output. You can be turning big RPMs and not working hard. But it’s power that counts. I’ve been asking for Cyclor power since the start and they only showed a couple snapshots. And we don’t need instantaneous power, either, which will jump around too much to make anything of it. 3 or 5 second wattage and, because one can only wish 😊, a total wattage and normalized power at the end would be nice. “Normalized power” is a cycling training term that integrates average power with power peaks and tells you more about the nature of the work than simple average power. (Racing cyclist and coach here.) 😅
@@mikegalaxie2352
What a beautiful looking boat
Who is the lead commentator? He makes so many observations that are wrong. TNZ they might be able to finish that second leg in 1, but proceeded to throw in an extra gybe, and the commentator states they did it in one. I may be being pedantic, but surely a sailing commentator has "some" knowledge of sailing and not just making it up as he goes along.
"How much of boat's maneuvering process is effected by the crew compared to the boat's systems?" "yeah, the crew are involved and work really hard on the design and the relationship's really important," WTF? Great question, useless answer, thanks team. .
@@General_Crock I’m not sure if you remember Peter Montgomery the NZ sports commentator for the America’s Cup. He was classy and knew what he was talking about and well respected throughout this sporting event, and actually any other sport he commentated, no bias, just a true lover of sports and told it like it was in a very gentlemen manner.
@@violetkumarina3699 Not to mention he was great in "Wind"!! Don't lie, I know you watched it.
Yes, and for some reason they only seem to see what has happened a few seconds after we see it. Whether it's coming off the foils, coming on the foils, or lead changes, they seem to almost always be a few seconds too late in their commentry.
The commentary is sorely lacking.
We finally get to hear post-race interviews, why haven't these been included previously?
The title clearly states "FULL RACE".
You could easily watch the entire day's stream, which includes all that non-racing stuff.
Etnz have designed their boat for light to moderate wind conditions.
Thank you
Just poor sailing by the Brit’s. Maybe time for Ainslee to bow out.
AM & Ineos have really gone out on a limb in their designs.
Can’t blame the sailors for that.
Emirates TNZ & Luna Rossa seem more forgiving boats in their designs.
I've been saying that for years. He won his medals in tiny sailing boats.
Sailing: if you touch the water you lose. That should be controversial.
What about the future of swimming ?.
I doubt that Britannia will be anywhere near this bad in the final.
Your post has aged well.
@@dulls8475🇳🇿🇬🇧
@@dulls8475 Still hoping for a comeback.... seriously, that NZ boat looks **** fast.
In the prestart, please show more shots including the two boats and the start line. I know there are loads of cameras on board, but the point of the coverage is to tell the story. In sailing, that means where the boats are in relation to each other and the next make. Visualize elastic always pulling you to a wide angle shot of both boats. There has to be something compelling to pull you away from that shot.
Why do they mix up all the measurements?
Distance of race measured in Nautical miles, distance gap measured in meters.
Sail area measured in square cubits and alcoholic drinks measured in 1/6th of a gill.
I am waiting for somebody to refer to the distance to the bar in fathoms or nautical furlongs.
😅😅😅😅
Nothing wrong with INEOS' speed in this race, just couldn't turn or stay on their foils. Now they've fixed those things, they'll be liking their chances in the Cup itself.
BURLING and Nathan.. need a faster boàt. Faster boàt is help make an easy games. .. Great job boys.
How much wind they had?
Looked like nz were testing vmg instead of racing. So much vmg changes.
Need good colors good trimmer and the skipper and the boat run faster.. faster boàt it making the race easy for the group .
I thought ineos had a good night, great win over magic and a solid race here. LR will have an interesting decision. A great day for Alinghi also. Magic would have some cause for concern and need to find something.
Stay in the middle oof the race cours. Don't come to far at the side . Stay in the middle. Nice job boys proud of yous all.,,,🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👍🌹🌿🌿🌿🌿🌍🌹🌹🌹
Ineos seem to have a hard time keeping the boat stable, either too high and then too low. NZ seems to keep their boat stable even in choppy weather
Ineos Britannia verse Emirates TNZ
Ineos have mega funding and sadly it appears the campaign is unraveling.
Please DONT stop putting the result in the thumbnail
I've never seen the result in the thumbnail but always see these comments
Please 'DON'T' stop putting the result in???
ITYM Please STOP...
Yes, I've seen it before. It seems to have stopped imo.
Are the commentators watching the same race as us?
INEOS mainsail looks wrinkly, Prada sails look very nice
i think the future for Ineos in this comp is the big donut?
What size foot are you
This is an absolute farce this competition it’s all about the bucks
So now this race is old news. What do the NZ fans think of Ineos I wonder.
Ineos Britannia is looking very impressive.
Ineos Britannia made an outstanding impression in the start box. Perhaps they had good manoeuvrability compared to Luna Rossa, hence they were conservative in the start box.
Starts are ok….but then it gets sort of boring.
This is not boat racing that people can relate to. Wind power control is now virtually irrelevant. It is technology show off time. Opaque to the actual on site viewer as many Barcelona residents have said. A TV game with a virtual perimeter. A stupid F1 in boats carnival. A video game.
Well said!
Need more wind.
looks like Brittannia is the opposite of Luna Rossa... They always FOLLOW they opponent, even if when you are behind you MUST split the tak..... I really don't understand them, they already have a slow speed in light wind what comes out following the opponent in dirty air? Oh... they seems to forgot that their boat doesn't like to loose too much speed and splash down. In my humble opinion it's a boat build for strong wind, so you need to keep tak at bare minimun at the start, don't engage in fancy duel and please lord keep her straight on a different tak..... Taking duel doesn't look like a strong point too, and its coeherent to her desider to always go fast and straight.
Mute the Mikes
Think the kiwis could have paddled their yatch and still would have won. Ainsley needs to stick to Dinghies.
Too much white noise
Ainslee lost the plot😮
These are the best sailors in the world, and it's super super difficult sailing. We would surely lose against any of these teams, I would think.
the temptation at the moment must be to say, "everything Jim Ratcliffe touches turns to shit"....
The commentator cannot even pronounce accelerate correctly.
BURLING. Need to make the boat go faster. Faster. boat it make àn easy job.....I know Luna Rosa, can make it means Luna Rosa can win the Americas cup this year 2024 for sure.
Young Michelle Martin Jeffrey Miller George
Fast boats - boring races
Hmm. It would be good to hear some insights why GB was so poor. Bad sailing? 😊
The boat is fast the tactics are good and the team is solid. Only one thing wrong with Ineos, the gybes are poor.
Something is not sequencing with all the nessecary order of the adjustments. Not like a swiss watch more like McGyver home made rat trap
When something looks slow it probably is and that boat looks like a brick
They loose so much speed.
@@skippyone3085
Woof woof 🐶
@@mikescudder4621 They lose it too.
ETNZ DID YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT ANY OF THIS BOAT AT THE FINAL. THOSE TWO BOAT ARE VERY FASTER.❤❤❤❤❤
ETNZ boat are too slow on the water.. am I wright?
What a stupid yachting competition. Drop off the foils game over. Nearly all races a boring drag race. Not a good advert for the sport
Boring
But you're watching,
@@morrisanderson818 Until I moved on. Bring on the AB's
@@garycody1929Andthat wasn’t much chop either!