YOUR MOVE, FANATEC! - MOZA R12 DD Wheelbase & KS Formula Wheel Review
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Moza has just announced their new R12 Direct Drive Sim Racing Wheelbase and a new more entry-level Formula style KS Steering wheel!
If you've been watching our videos for a while you'd know that 12-14NM is where I consider the sweet spot to be for the best balance between price and performance, and this new wheel creates a cheaper point of entry into the ecosystem with a Formula/GT style wheel, so let's check out these new products and see how they stack up!
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Intro: 0:00
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Important Information: 1:30
Pricing: 1:59
R12 Base Overview: 3:52
KS Wheel Overview: 8:20
KS Wheel Driving Experience: 20:30
Software Overview: 21:10
R12 Base Driving Experience: 30:04
Conclusions: 35:29
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I’m literally sitting in the parking lot of a micro center waiting for it to open lol
Haha! Tell them we said Hi!
All we need is console compatibility. Love that they're pushing the envelope and making prices more competitive!
It’s too much money to get console license… it’s not worth it for smaller sim companies
I 100% doubt that a Company like Moza or Cammus will ever have Console Compatibility
They may announce Xbox support in mid-July
I run my Moza 5 on Xbox via a third party dongle, the Ras1ution 2 from Brooks Gaming. Works great!
@@cornbreadsfishing1036 How does the FFB feels? It does emulate other wheels, right?
13:58 A little note. To change the colors you must move the joysticks not pressing but both towards the central side. (Left stick to the right and Right stick to the left) to enter customization mode, and save.
Correct. We’ve since got it working. The instructions that shipped with the wheel were incorrect.
Glad you got the Microcenter sponsorship. You deserve it mate.
i work at microcenter, cool to see this!
That KS wheel is absolutely the perfect entry-level GT racing rim I've ever seen.
I have been doing tons of research of what's all available and pricing out what I want for my upgraded rig setup, and was mostly on board with the Moza ecosystem, but that KS wheel just sealed the deal.
I wasn't sure I could afford the GS V2 but wanted something along that line, and was leaning towards the Fanatec Mclaren GT3 wheel and ecosystem because of it.
Now that's been settled completely. Incredible effort from Moza.
I have always been keen on Moza, almost went R9, but now r12 + KS is what i would get.
The tricky part is that fanatec's deals right now on CSL DD soo good its hard not to go that way
Same boat - R12 and KS Wheel just landed today...........now waiting on the table mount.
alpha mini way better
Dude I won't regret it I have a R12 CRP pedals setup and a R5 bundle that's my backup or so a buddy or family member can play with me yeah I'm honestly blown away by Moza's R12 it's so good
Was just looking through their store and was suprised to see a new wheel so came here to see what was going on, always great reviews for new tech.
I’ve been watching your videos over the last couple days before purchasing a rig… and must I say thank you!Your videos are so amazingly helpful, you don’t miss a single detail. You are a amazing RUclipsr and I wish all channels were this quality.
Stay awesome man
Great review, as always!
Just a quick note on one thing you said: Carbon Fibre Reinforced Polymer (CFRP) is literally the designation of any part made out of carbon fibre. You have a polymer (the resin that acts like the matrix) reinforced with carbon fibre strands. So, when you see a "real" carbon fibre piece, it is a CFRP piece.
Thanks!
This KS wheel is exactly what I was hoping for. I’m still pretty new to sim racing and just couldn’t justify the price of the other two GT wheels.
Man I own this R12 Moza base it's truly exceptional best decision ever purchasing this guy it pairs well with the CRP pedals and Moza Handbrake and Shifter it's Definitely made a positive improvement in my sim drifting now I don't know what to do with my R5 and Logitech g29 I guess give one to my nephew and sell the other so I can buy another wheel a RS V2 or FSR or even get a QR and my own custom wheel rim for drifting
Fair play to Moza I got the R5 Bundle 4/5 Months ago to replace a G920, didn't use the pedals as already had TCLMs. Everything from the ordering, packaging, quality of product, software has all been top notch. The Fanatec stuff was constantly on back order so I went Moza as a 2nd choice but glad I did now. I'm just using a desk mount so going beyond 5NM would probably destroy the desk but if I ever get a proper rig and wanted more strength would defo stick with Moza.
"Your move, Fanatec." Says everyone, for the last three years.
It's been so long since Fanatec released something new. Waited 2 years for them to release a dashed wheel. I eventually got tired of waiting and got the FSR Wheel when the Moza hub and adapter was released. Love it. Quick release was game changing attached to my DD2, and it's difficult to go back. Been looking at getting another Moza wheel like this one so I don't have to take off the Podium hub and move my pedals and chair around switching to my Fanatec Formula rim. Moza's just been hitting it out of the park with every release.
Only thing that's missing is console support. Would also love to see them add Simhub compatibility with their dashes.
What's a "dashed" wheel?
@@Daz555Daz Just a prototype/formula wheel that has an integrated dash like the Moza FSR Formula wheel.
Incredible value. Especially the wheel is something I have been expecting from Fanatec for a while.
Ordered the KS! I have been waiting for this budget wheel ever since getting my R9 / CS / SRP set 12 months ago. It's great when companies listen to thier customer base and deliver at such a high level. Especially for the cost!
i LOVE the depth of your videos. Keep up the good work! greets fom Canada.
Love to see the Micro Center support. I'm lucky enough to have one near me and their selection and prices are really awesome, and the people are great too. There's nowhere else to really go to see computer hardware, let alone sim hardware, in person. I experienced direct drive for the first time when I was there last weekend and it has me itching to upgrade. The R12 fits the bill really well, so this is tempting for when I upgrade. If Fanatec come out with something in this range though I'll probably go for that since I could then keep my Formula 2.5 wheel with the paddle module that I love. I don't want to settle for 8nm with the CSL DD but the Podium bases are just way too expensive for me. You're right, there's a huge hole in their ecosystem that they should really fill.
Some great options these days - Moza have really come along in both HW and SW so I think I know what I'm aiming for, in part thanks to your excellent reviews
Great review . It looks like I’ll need to save up just a little longer. Also I like the micro center support. Me and my son often make a yearly 6hr drive to our nearest micro center.
No way moza came out with a banger I am ready to buy this new wheel
Been waiting 2 years to build a sim rig but I think now the time has finally come
I wish I waited half a year, i have r9 :D
@@4fr0pl same xD
It's a good time for sim racing.
Im very glad i got into it recently as well
I’m actually loving this back and forth with these two companies I hope Fanatec do make a move that gamers will like, it helps us customers. If Moza get Console support PS5 for me then I might actually consider them over Fanatec tbh.
Even if Fanatec do produce a response, good luck getting one and navigating the atrocious customer service and delivery. It’s almost like they don’t actually want you to buy from them sometimes. Eventually got there in the end though! 👍
@@Gregg4886 8 months later and I just cancelled my Fanatec order and went with Moza. Fanatec has lost the battle, which sucks because they used to be my go to brand
Great Video, you helped me make up my mind. Thank You!
love the shoutout to the Indianapolis MicroCenter opening soon. Indy can't wait!
Keep looking at your M2 in the background, looks great, have one just like it in my garage, cheers!
I think I’m going to pull the trigger on the R12! Thank you for this review. Upgraded to an ASR1 rig and now pairing it with Moza R12. Really excited to see how different it’s going to be from My G29 setup.
Bought the KS wheel along with the universal hub, happily using it with my Cammus base. The lightness of the KS has really improved the detail felt through the Cammus.
What I've come to realize with configuring these DD wheel bases for drifting it's all about balancing the FFB power with the dampener settings.
You want to have a responsive wheel and that can be achieved by lower FFB Gain but then you have to lower the dampener so the wheel can start rotating as soon as it can.
Or you could go high FFB Gain setting but then you have to put a lot of dampening to compensate for the wheel rotating to quickly and being too eratic.
Finding the balance is the key and it can depend from person to person some people like it to be low intensity so they can control the drift easier some like it higher.
This also depends what wheel rim you're running how wide it is, how heavy etc ... inertia and all that.
Hey Will, just wanted to say I like that the sponsor of the video is a store rather than a sim-racing company, improves the reliability and independency for the reviews, hope to see more companies do this, so we can keep seeing these great reviews without you being financially dependent on any competitor in the market
Moza wheels look absolutely fantastic, Fanatec and Asetek should take notes on the how to make great looking formula wheels. If I was Asetek I'd stop whatever work I'm doing on rigs right now and get the La Prima bundles out to the reviewers, and speed up a process to release more wheels. If I was Fanatec I'd fire whoever is responsible for the QR2 delay and get a 12-15nm base at a good price out asap. Moza is taking all the glory right now.
Running an R5 base currently, and finding out the KS wheel is a bit lighter than the ES wheel, and nearly as light as with the formula wheel mod, this should be absolutely great even on the R5! Found my next upgrade, along with the 12 inch wheel mod instead of the formula 😅
I just got the Asetek La Prima base, pedals, and Forte wheel TK edition from Microcenter gor $799. I am in sun racing heaven!
The wheel I have been waiting for, great price/value option to pair with my r9. Can't wait to use it on ACC. Just ordered from Abruzzi in the UK. ;)
I just ordered the wheel base and wheel from the same place.
A 12nm wheelbase still in a smalll form factor and a cheaper formula wheel without the unnecessary (IMO) screen? This is exactly what I've dreamed of and it's getting extremely hard to resist pulling the trigger on this kit.
Congrats on Microcenter deal. They are top notch! They are not the cheapest in town but we should reward them for actually stocking multiple sim gear brands on their shelves and have a simulator set up to try out the gear! If you live near one, you are doing yourself a disservice not trying them. They stock all the best and gear! GSI, Simucube, Moza, Aestek, etc etc. But for those that keep waiting for Fanatec to release a ~12-5nm DD base, just get the DD1, it is silly how so many people think there needs to be 6 different power level bases available. Buy once, cry once, go for the largest peak/ sustained NMs you can afford because of the extra clipping headroom and better future proof your purchase
Glad I have held out an extra couple of weeks. Was set on the Asetek Forte but not needing an extra mount this has saved me over £600. Upgrading from a Clubsport 2.5 and McLaren V2 wheel onto my GT Omega Prime. Im sticking with the Fanatec V3's as I just love the feel of them so hoping they make a good pairing. Hoping to get many good years out of this.
I always value your opinions Will, keep up the good work .
That wheel looks amazing
Great review - as always! I hope the version they sell will have the bolt on QR wheel side piece like the R9. No bolts means no elongation possible. I need my base behind the monitor.
Sold my GS V1 and ordered a KS, the shape and handle material is more appealing to me. I did love my GS
Wow I recently ordered the R12 for $589 US. Didn't know it was a price drop from the then $649 R9, which is now $439. Got the $279 KS wheel compared to a $519 Cube F Core. Great deal Moza
I had some issues getting into the button color change mode during my testing as well and discovered that you don't press the joystick buttons but you toggle each of them inward towards the center of the wheel, at the same time, and then do it again to lock in your choices. I have been loving the wheel, I race GT3/GT4 cars mainly and feel the wheel size and button layout to be pretty much perfect. Liking it more than my GS wheel inany ways.
Microcenter sales after this video 📈
I got the KS from Micro Center as an open box for $80 off and I love it so far, has more than enough for most cars, even the GTPs in iRacing. My MC also had the fancy Moza formula wheel with the screen for $650, the KS felt a lot more comfortable in my hands
Love Microcenter, by the way. Two of them in my state.
I'd love a sided mount option like the CSL DD has as it gives a bit of room for a sliding keyboard.
But it looks like a great wheelbase with good mid-entry level wheel options.
Fanatec made their move, looking forward to the Clubsport DD review.
first thought - the steering wheel looks like the williams f1 wheel :D but it looks GOOD!!!
Haha I hadn't made that connection but you're right!
@@boostedmedia hahaha sometimes you dont see the obvious. but as i got into williams yesterday in my f1 23 league, i remembered it on first sight :D tbh. i love the design! and i really hope fanatec gives us new formula wheels and new bases... their stuff is a bit outdated..... :S
Very tempted to ditch Fanatec for this setup. Great price and amazing features. Pretty much what I was looking for in a setup.
the pedals though. even their best pedals aren't good. that to me makes fanatec more appealing.
@@delasse3178 Idunno man, the CR-Ps have been absolutely phenomenal for me in my setup, I think they've worked out a lot of the random noisy bits in QA since many of the reviews for the pedals came out. The metal and heft of it feels really nice. Only downside is they can't be inverted at the moment. But regardless, if you don't need console compatibility, you could always do any of the many other high end pedal choices. Or get a Raso1ution (or whatever its called) adapter and do the same on console, idk if theres such a need to remain in just one ecosystem nowadays.
@@delasse3178 I'm on PC. I can get better pedals.
@@wwjnz9263 For the same price, what is better?
You are the best simracing reviewer! I hope to see soon your review of Fanatec BMW M4 GT3 steering wheel.
Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
Thanks :). It’s on the list :)
We want more dashes from moza dash software , great review
oh man I've been looking at dd wheels for a while, but heard from so many that 12 nm is the optimal and 16 nm bases were so expensive, this is really peaked my interest
I do hope this puts some pressure on fanatec to release a base in between the 8nm cslDD and tthe DD1 ( maybe with the same boost pack approach as the DD with options for, let's say, 10nm or 15nm)
Welcome Microcenter. Please come to Eastern Idaho (Idaho Falls!!)!
I went to alpha mini just because I heard many complains about disconnection problems. Anyway 12nm is nice to to sim market, moza did listen and delivers many options. congrats.
I'm wonder if you can tell the difference in power with this and the Simagic alpha mini, I have owned the alpha mini for almost two years now and I can tell you that I have never had a wheel disconnect so you made a good choice.
Love the content! You should do a collab with Hardware Unboxed!
Finally some good rev lights on a moza wheel
@boosted media from my experience the disconnection issue mainly comes from drifting as i experience it on my r9. i seem to have narrowed it down to the hands off protection in the firmware, this has not always been a issue and i have only noticed it in the last few months. with hand off protection disabled i have no longer had any disconnection issues
Waiting on my KS to ship now!
Moza must have raised their prices, at least for Australia? I am seeing $499 for the KS Wheel and $1,059 for the R12
Not sure. The pricing listed is the pricing they supplied us with last week when we were shooting.
Oh man, I'm still using a belt driven thrustmaster wheel, but seeing the FFB tweaks you can make in the Moza software is VERY appealing. I want to upgrade to a DD, and intended on staying in the Thrustmaster eco-system to use all my current rims, but I really really like this Moza software, and this may end up being the deciding factor for me
i do like a variety of rims, and I do really wish some of these DD companies offered some rims in the $200-300 price point. While the stuff out there looks awesome, I really don't need an $800 carbon rim for my sim rig. I race in VR and the rims I own from Thrustmaster are plenty for my needs, and i really don't think I'd benefit much from a super high end rim that costs 3x as much and is nicer than most actual race car rims
Exactly my same situation. Thrustmaster TS-PC in VR looking to uograde to a DD soon. I was really tempted by the CSL DD with the Macca GT3 wheel, because the lack of a decently priced/specced wheel from Moza. Now with this KS the game is changed and maybe an aggressively priced bundle from Moza could let me lean towards them a bit more. R9+KS could really be a great combo for the hobbyist simmer on a tight budget
VR user here as you. No worries. Don't force yourself. You didn't mention what TM model you're using.. t300, TS? Owned both. Both are great for the money. switched to a 20nm DD base (using 10nm max atm) Sure dd is nice and fun, as you said i spent hundreds, probably thousands on customs wheels.
But is it worth it? It doesn't make me personally faster. Adds immersion, yes. Keep in mind we've been racing with belt wheelbases for 30 years or so 😂
I'd rather spend that money in load cell pedals if you don't already have one.
Don't forget, the best setup out there is the one you have or the one you can afford. Shiny new products are always exciting but don't rush anything
@@Michelsen3K I have a T500RS and a TX (I use the T500 generally). I do use a modified set of T-LCM Pedals
Then go with the thrust master DD if you wana stay with in the TM eco system.
pretty sure the ffb cut when drifting is the hands off protection
Bingo.
The more catalog, the better for us!
If Moza gets console compatibility I will switch over from Fanatec without hesitation.
Why not just buy a computer lol
100% get that console compatibility sorted!!! 🙏🙏
@@slackerZ1
Because I am assuming he plays GT7.
@@samueljones3668and he doesn't want to get into the constant upgrade cycle involved with PCs
@@slackerZ1"just"
This new base looks great! Always happy to see more entries in the market. Just last weekend I ordered a simagic alpha mini w/ Fanatec Elite V2 pedals. The base hasn't shipped yet; would you say this wheel base would have a significant upgrade over the mini? It's rated for 10nm but independent reviewers have noted that it can actually peak as 13nm, so I suppose these 2 bases are about the same in that regard. Thanks!
The mini is probably better
Wie Immer Toller Rewie :-)
Ich habe alles von Fanatec CSL DD Pro mit Boostkit 8 nm und mir reicht das völlig aus das FFB.
Egal welche Klasse ich fahre. In Assetto Corsa fahren ich mit einem Custom FFB mit FFB Clip Software. Das gleiche auch in AMS2 mit Custom FFB mal abwarten was das neue 1.5 Physic Update bringt. Habe alles von Fanataec Podiumhub mit Buttonplate, Mc Laren gt3 v2 mit Simshifters Z Hybrid Paddels umgebaut. Wenn ich GT1 oder Prototypklassen fahre dann mit der Poduim Buttonplate mit einem Turn Racing Wheel. Wenn ich Gt3 Fahre dann mit dem Mc Laren Gt3 V2 Wheel. Hab auch das Formula 2.5version aber die Felge ist mir einfach zu klein auf Dauer. Bei TCR oder Strassenautos das BMW M3 Gt2 . Jeder hat so seine Vorlieben wegen dem FFB zu viel ist nicht immer gut man muss die Balance einfach finden. Ich werde weiter bei Fanatec bleiben da ich damit bis jetzt nur gutes sagen kann. Und diese ist schon seit Anfang 2022 Dauerhaft im Einsatz. Ich weiss ich komme aus Europa da ist es mit Fanatec etwas einfacher als in der USA, Kanada oder China.
Beste GRüsse gehn raus in die Welt.
At Fanatec's pace they might release a 12 NM wheelbase 10 years from now 😂
Try Logitechs pace... Still waiting for the first wheel, heck I'd take an announcement
Thrustmaster said they would release 3 wheels for the new t818 this q2 but still nothing, and pedals haven't even been mentioned
This looks really nice. Price of the GS rim was putting me off even tho it looks like a stunning wheel. This one is not as good looking but still a while lot better than asetek imo.
Pedal port definitely points to future console compatibility, I'm buying R12/KS and hopefully they bring out drive good pedals, in buying that bundle as soon as that comes along as i play mainly on PC but also have a few GT7 sessions with friends
tempted to get into f1 now
Was almost going to pull the trigger on a simagic alpha mini, guess I'll have to reconsider my upgrade now
Simagic is same price and bit beter quality
In the same boat (I place my order for one a few days ago). Good luck deciding!
Outstanding! I am no longer planning on buying the Logitech Pro setup.
This is a very clean wheel and I personally would say better then any Fanatec wheel
Was interested until you mentioned the drifting issues, with how smooth the csl dd is, I don't think I can make any compromise for less fidelity or snappy response. Always appreciate the detailed reviews!
I wouldnt take his advice on drifting when he cant even drift.. pretty sure he's just diagnosing loss of traction or hitting a steering lock and doesnt understand what he's feeling
I've run into the same thing with drifting on my own Moza bases - all you need to do is disable the "hands off protection." It's meant to prevent oscillation, but will kick in when drifting too. Turn that off and you'll be golden.
exactly i thnk the r12 is better than the csl dd @@BL94685
Been looking at the monza r9 and GS GT wheel for a few months now. Now there’s a 200 dollar cheaper wheel? Very interesting, this review could definelty sway me to pick up this new wheel!
Those white transparent buttons and the LED strip to me are an upgrade from their previous offerings and are better looking than on the FSR for example. I wonder if Monza will upgrade all their existing wheels with those?!
Im the group of people who wait a lot to buy something and after buying, feels like every release are just better deal than i did 😭
Thanks for the review. In the video about the R5, you said that there is almost no stepping effect when turning the steering wheel. And what about the R12 base?
Just starting in SR I have T300 and want alittle more FB. What would you recommend for console? Love the content. Y’all are awesome!
33:00 Exactly same thing has been happening to me with R9 in rallycross in Iracing in last few weeks.
Good to know it’s not just me. Thanks for the comment.
How would you compare the shifter paddles on the KS vs the CS wheel?
Great review, thank you 🙏
The wheel side to side wiggle is a item to item variance from what I can tell. My brother and I both bought the original R9 with GS wheel, his does not have the wiggle but mine does. I do not notice during racing.
I suspect it has something to do with how the milling on either the base shaft connection point, or parts of the quick disconnect itself. I have yet to actually measure to find out, but I suspect it is a variance that could be accounted for by a part getting too hot during milling and expanding.
Yep just like with Fanatec it would be down to the percentage of tolerance in the sleeve and shaft. THat said, I've observed far less variance with Moza than Fanatec with regards to the QR. All my Moza wheels and bases so far have fit pretty snugly.
I just bought a simagic alpha, literally in the mail right now, and this definitely seems like something that I would have looked at. Seems like a great amount of torque for the money. The wheel looks awesome for the money too. Gave a look at moza (r16) but the wheels from simagic just looked a little higher quality so that was what pushed me over in the end. Exciting product for the market as a whole though and glad we are getting more products at more affordable prices to give more people a good way into sim racing!
i have simagic, you made the right choice of ecosystem, the p2000 pedals changed everything for me. from not ranking ever to multiple top 10s in rbr within weeks of owning them.
You’re better off with a simagic alpha, trust me. You want more nM to feel more detail. You don’t need to run the damping at 100% and feel the entire 15 nM…but the alpha is leagues better than the r12 because that extra nM is going to let you feel more details than anyone with an r12 will.
@@RaceZeus pretty much why i went with it, so good to know. I wanted to be in that "sweet spot" that everyone talks about of 10-12 with overhead. Also simagic ecosystem and factory wheels seemed LEAGUES above everyone else in terms of quality and ease of use.
@@caelandouglas5568 I have the FX Pro wheel and holy shit is it incredible. They ARE leagues ahead of everyone and the prices are so affordable compared to the stubborn heads at places like Fanatec and Simucube not budging. I'm a pure simagic fanboy since getting my alpha u and fx pro lol. Such good quality. I want their pedals next.
Fanatec move is to put a fancy ad everytime we search about a moza product 🤣🤣
Man, I really wish my wheelbase had that FFB Equalizer.
Great. Just purchased an r9 from microcenter. They do not currently carry the R12. But im going to return the R9 anyway and wait for the stock for the R12. No sim racing for me until then. Hopefully microcenter stocks them soon.
It's a shame they dropped the LED, it could be turned off in Pithouse if you didn't like it and was useful when diagnosing FFB loss.
Once Moza gets console support for a decent price, I'm pretty sure they'll be flying past Fanatec in no time.
microcenter is disneyworld for me lmao
KS wheel is great value. NEED
I had the same problem pushing the joysticks to go into the buttons color mod and it turns out I had to push both joysticks inwards (left to the right and right to the left)
Yep. The instruction manual I was sent was incorrect. Just figured it out about an hour ago.
I just got an R9 a few months ago and the GS V2 wheel the other week.
Very typical that a better wheel base for not much more money and a cheaper rim come out.
Ah well, been enjoying it nonetheless.
Exactly 🤦♂️😂
You push both joysticks inwards twords each other to enter programming mode, then point both outwards away from each other to exit programming mode. You just pushed them down like xbox joysticks. I only noticed this because I did the same thing when I first got mine.
I was just thinking the other night that fanatec needs around a 12-15nm base to fit the csl elite mid range and preferably with the new qr2 system... hopefully this pushes them to stop being stagnate with new products lol
Spot on review Will 👏. I recently purchased the Thrustmaster T818 & I'm somewhat disappointed with it 😔. Being a Diehard AMS2 fan & tied up in the Thrustmaster eco system, this wheel was ment to check all the boxes, but sadly it seems to fall short of detail. Performance setting in the software seems lacking in something, & extreme setting is just OTT. Having seen this review 3 times already I think my mind is made up - the fact that you can change each individual ffb setting is just what I'm looking for - thrustmaster defo missed the boat on this one. Keep up the awesome work Will 👏👏👏👍
Thrustmaster have missed the boat on everything lately, especially with the T818. Their software looks like it's made from a Windows 98 popup window. There is absolutely nothing you can tweak. The wheelbase quick release is a missed opportunity again. I understand they wanted to make all the older wheels compatible but they are seriously lacking from the competition and that plastic qr have lot of flex and crackles and will not pass the test of time. It looks like they're stuck 10 years behind in term of innovation and build quality. The T818 looks like a toy compared to Moza, and for the price point, it's ridiculously expensive for what you get. And I'm not talking about the ugly design of the base itself. I was in the Thrustmaster ecosystem with the T300 before I switched to Moza... and it is night and day! Even if you are in the TM ecosystem, I strongly suggest you to sell everything and switch sooner than later. They will probably go bankrupt soon if they don't up their game quickly. Those affordable premium quality grade DD bases are becoming the norm.
I'm currently eying with the La Prima Wheelbase as it did hit my sweet spot for price value ratio. Only what made me a bit hesitant is that there is currently only the formula wheel available and I do love to drive the 90s dtm and stock cars as well as rally which just doesn't work with the la prima Formula wheel.
Now Moza is pushing the R12 to the market which would be with the CS V2 wheel still be 100 bucks less then the La Prima. Which again is already 1/3rd of the additional KS Wheel.
Guess I'll wait a bit until there are reviews of the La Prima available.
And now I'm
A little bummed out that this was released just a month after I purchased the R9 + GS wheel, having said that the R9 has enough ffb for me and I have been more than happy with the GS wheel.
Fanatec CSW DD finally coming maybe? They already lowered the price of the CSL DD by alot, would make sense to be able to place the CSW cometitively on the market?
Would it be possible to do some kind of review on 3rd party options that run the Moza wheel base with a console?!
My god I just bought my R9 3 weeks ago lol. But I'll probably still get the GS V2 since I'm not looking for budget gear necessarily
yeah i m waiting for a club sport DD Base and Podium Pedals
In their live stream, they explicitly mentioned that they will make R12 console compatible through a (software?) update.
It couldn’t be official support then I don’t think.
I had pretty much settled on a combo of Asatek products, but found myself wondering if I could get the same or more for the same or less money, as I have a rather limited racing budget. I know there will be some detractors, because of the iRacers I follow and support, but I'm totally sold on the Moza wheels and bases. In a couple weeks, I plan to get an R12 and a GS V2P, probably a CM dash also. I'm considering adding an RS wheel also but that's pushing things a little. We'll see. Anyhow, just wanted to let you know where I stand and thank you for all the detailed information. It very much helped me come to what I think is a good decision for a rig I can use for years to come. Thank you.
Let's GOOOOO!!!