Why I Think Laminate Flooring Is Making a Comeback

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Laminate flooring isn't what it used to be - here's why.
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  • @paytons6767
    @paytons6767 2 года назад +620

    Let me know when dirt floors are coming back. Want my DIY projects to be as cheap as possible

  • @Monsieur405
    @Monsieur405 2 года назад +327

    Ye-olden hardwood floors are just about the only thing that has lasted the test of time.

    • @user-nh3gu1ge3d
      @user-nh3gu1ge3d 2 года назад +26

      Concrete, stone, brick, wood, etc. all last if you don't mess them up. Only reason laminate hasn't "lasted the test of time" is because it's a new product. It should last indefinitely if taken care of.

    • @HappyBeeHoney
      @HappyBeeHoney 2 года назад +71

      Wood floors are great if you have $20000 to spend on flooring. And water can still ruin it.

    • @user-nh3gu1ge3d
      @user-nh3gu1ge3d 2 года назад +18

      @@HappyBeeHoney Sure, if your house is 8,000 square feet . Hardwood is barely more expensive (depending on what you get). I got Brazilian Teak for 2.5/sqft (at a builder auction a few months ago), and you can get oak for mid 2's as well. I mean, sure you can get an exotic $20+sqft wood, but most people just get oak. Laminate is usually around 2 so you spend, what, a dollar more per square foot? So a lot closer to $2,000 more than $20,000 (unless you live in an 8,000 sqft house of course).

    • @HappyBeeHoney
      @HappyBeeHoney 2 года назад +11

      @@user-nh3gu1ge3d It's about $7/sqft for 3/4" red oak in CA, plus install is a bit more technical than snapping laminate together so you might be looking at install costs. And I prefer unfinished wood that is finished after install, so add finishing costs to that price.

    • @user-nh3gu1ge3d
      @user-nh3gu1ge3d 2 года назад +11

      @@HappyBeeHoney CA being overpriced is an issue with CA, not wood. But yeah, it's definitely more labor esp if you don't get prefinished. Like I said, I got my Brazilian Teak for 2.5/sqft which is about what laminate costs, but then install and finishing was def. more expensive than laminate (because there is none). It cost me about 3k more than laminate per thousand sqft. I think that's a relatively small price to pay for a vastly superior product but to each his own, I suppose.
      You're only going to spend 20k (total or extra) if you get gouged for living in cali, get gouged at the store for the product, have a ginormous house, and/or get gouged on install. I picked mine up myself from the auction so it's a lot less convenient, have to organize your own transport via truck/trailer, and wait for an auction to roll around. But for a once in 30-50 year event, a little extra leg work is well worth it. Again, just my opinion. YMMV.

  • @oldguysrock2170
    @oldguysrock2170 Год назад +61

    I have completed several flooring projects using laminate floors, all labeled as “water resistant.” In a mudroom where we enter our house, we had to replace some boards because the constant dampness from wet boots, became damaged. The joints showed expansion and discoloration. We replaced the floor with a totally water proof vinyl and after two winters, no evidence of damage! The words “water resistant” do not mean water proof.

    • @erbrooks
      @erbrooks 7 месяцев назад +7

      What about the ones that say waterproof

    • @cyclopsvision6370
      @cyclopsvision6370 2 месяца назад

      @@erbrooks only man made materials that don't absorb water are waterproof

    • @cyclopsvision6370
      @cyclopsvision6370 2 месяца назад +5

      water resistant means you still had to mop up the water, rather than wait for it to air dry

    • @danahoward759
      @danahoward759 Месяц назад

      You're absolutely right!!!😊

    • @Lee-xs4dj
      @Lee-xs4dj Месяц назад +1

      Just tile it. Nearly as cheap

  • @cfd6577
    @cfd6577 2 года назад +226

    My right ear enjoyed this a lot more than my left.

    • @stephen7938
      @stephen7938 Год назад +13

      Hahaha I was looking if anyone else had this issue. Glad to know I'm not alone.

    • @deathsite95
      @deathsite95 Год назад

      on god!

    • @harleirebelqwin
      @harleirebelqwin Год назад

      😂😂😂😂 mine too. What’s that about!

    • @MyUnquenchableThirst
      @MyUnquenchableThirst Год назад +1

      Thanks for this comment. I only had my left in and was wondering why was going on

    • @MeeraRaju1111
      @MeeraRaju1111 11 месяцев назад

      Same, I took my headphones off like🤨

  • @redbovine
    @redbovine Год назад +21

    My experience is get the thickest laminate you can. 15mm and a good underlayment. Don’t skip the underlayment even when going over wood subfloor. The thin vinyl seems to flex more when walking on it. Just my opinion.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +2

      Floor Prep is a must.
      Thinner LVPs are failing at an alarming rate because floors aren't being prepped correctly, or the house is shifting and pushing them out of the floor's tolerances for height variations.
      Laminates have more meat behind them, gives them more to work with when it comes to that variation.
      Floors still need to be prepped/leveled, but the tolerance for failure is far far better on a product that has some thickness to it.
      They make LVPs that do the same (7mm or more), but you start seeing the price point start to increase drastically.
      There is nothing a vinyl does that a good laminate can also do, often times better.

    • @ryans413
      @ryans413 Год назад

      Some have underpayment on the planks some don’t. Also factor in the locking style tung and groves the best because you can slide the planks to fit them in place

    • @seonggkim
      @seonggkim 2 месяца назад

      I agree. Always use a nice underlayment; I used HDs cork one and it was excellent. I always go LVP though, no laminate.

  • @NikNiquete
    @NikNiquete 7 месяцев назад +8

    Finished a good week and a half prep on floors for 3 bedrooms in my house. The floor I’m replacing is a pergo laminate from 10-11 years ago. I was dead set on getting vinyl flooring but ended up going for the Allen & Roth laminate. It was just better at every test I threw at it. Looked better, thicker, heavyier, but the locking system is what ultimately swayed me. It took pliers to break it when I tested the strength. And definitely not cutting through it with a box cutter. Oh yeah it was cheaper as well for the Cherry on top. I recommend it 100%.

  • @katman8714
    @katman8714 Год назад +16

    How about sheet linoleum? I'm seriously considering it!

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +6

      You don't normally see actual linoleum anymore. But Forbo does Marmoleum, which is the same natural products.
      What most people today think is linoleum is actually sheet vinyl.
      Prices can range from dirt cheap to more than most LVPs/Laminates.
      The install is more complicated than most people realize, with more embossing and prep required than floating floors.

    • @CriticalTechReviews
      @CriticalTechReviews 9 месяцев назад +1

      Okay so here's the deal with sheet vinyl (what you're probably talking about): It is AMAZING to walk on, if you get good quality thick kind. Sort of between carpet and hardwood, where sturdy glasses won't break and it's comfortable to kneel on. And if you have pets that like to piss all the time, you wipe it up and you're done. No gaps, no cracks, no grout, and if you put a 1/4 inch ridge below the edge of it at the walls, piss won't go under it. it's effortless.
      BUT IT RIPS IF YOU LOOK AT IT. Every single item you own will need to be put on furniture sliders, or their feet will rip it. And you will need to glue it down if you don't want to go insane with how loud claws are while pets walk on it. But none of that is super hard, and the benefits for pet owners and for general livability (again, it feels much more like carpet than laminate or hardwood or LVP) make it worth the hassle imo.

  • @BrianHw1
    @BrianHw1 Год назад +6

    I'm a huge fan of the laminate from Sam's Club. Good quality, built in padding, and a very good price. Vinyl scratches to easily. The only place I'll use it is in a bathroom.

  • @colt3030
    @colt3030 3 месяца назад +3

    24 hour coverage is pretty useless. Where you find laminate failures are typically at noticed leak points ie refrigerator, freezer, water heater, etc. so unless you notice the leak in 24 hours. You are still screwed.

  • @jiggyrye4833
    @jiggyrye4833 2 года назад +44

    I work for a flooring distributor and you are 100% right. Our LVP sales have plummeted and with the new laminates that are coming out, we’re going through so much we can barely keep it in stock.

    • @bman041
      @bman041 2 года назад +7

      Can you recommend a laminate?

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +2

      I sell floors for a living and have moved into my second market.
      I am doing my best to turn people away from LVPs here too. To much hassle. We are about 4-5 years into the current LVP trend of thinning out those cores to 4-5mm thick and the claims are starting to roll in... especially on the DIYers.
      Similar to the 10 year mark when people started to realize their LVPs scratch alot easier than they were sold on and their floors don't look as good.
      With laminates basically solving their water issues in the last few years you have the advantage of a floor that doesn't really scratch easy and can handle moisture.
      People just have a bad taste in their mouths from the old Pergos from 30 years ago. They couldn't handle moisture and they installed them in wet areas.
      They see the bubbling and think its a terrible floor and conviniently forget that in their living room it usually still looks great because it wears like iron.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +5

      @@bman041 RevWood from Mohawk. Their Premier line specifically.
      Looks amazing. Its functionally water proof. You can steam mop it and installed right can go in wet areas like bathrooms.
      Its about as close in appearance that you can get to actual hardwood without it being wood.
      It will make pretty much any LVP look like the hunk of plastic that it is.

  • @JenniferFuchek
    @JenniferFuchek 2 года назад +9

    We own a business installing LVP and other hard surface flooring. Ive seen many different brands.
    24-hour water resistance is very misleading... thats just for on the SURFACE. It'll still seep between, getting underneath, causing issues if it's repeatedly happening.

    • @daysofgrace2934
      @daysofgrace2934 2 месяца назад +1

      The core is impregnated with epoxy resin, in Europe 72H laminate is the norm we sell. Problem with LVT is it costs the same as honed filled travertine and limestone, most customers go for proper luxury at the price...

    • @denisemartin3603
      @denisemartin3603 6 дней назад

      Whats LVP?

    • @red_edj
      @red_edj 5 дней назад

      @@denisemartin3603 Luxury Vinyl Planks or the wood looking floor planks

  • @shopart1488
    @shopart1488 2 года назад +9

    The original Pergo laminate floor glued together is the perfect laminate floor little harder to install but perfect. Kitchen 23 years and counting.

  • @KaFFi3N
    @KaFFi3N 2 года назад +6

    Here in Australia it's came back everyone is going for laminate for about 4 years . If they could find a way to put it into wet areas they would and ill be out of a job as a tiler.

    • @cloche-et-chocolat
      @cloche-et-chocolat Год назад

      I'm building in NSW at the moment and I think I saw options for wet areas while looking at my choices. (I went for tiles in my laundry, bath and WC anyway)

  • @tertys
    @tertys 2 года назад +12

    I found it strange that vinyl so much popular, in fact it feels cold and rigid for a feet. All my family just loves 15mm laminate compared to 4mm vinyl

    • @tylere.8436
      @tylere.8436 Год назад

      Imagine walking in your house on plastic.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      Its the waterproof part of it that tricks them
      And Sales people basically lying to them about how tough they are.
      I also sell floors, and I come across it all the time.
      I have worn keys out on samples proving just how different the products are on wear.

    • @humz403
      @humz403 11 месяцев назад

      The New laminate is pretty amazing as long as you're paying for a quality product.

    • @JakePlisskin12
      @JakePlisskin12 10 месяцев назад

      i install flooring and everytime i install vinyl the eintire time im thinking that theres no way i would ever want to talk on this all the time. i would rather put elestimer in my house before that stuff. (its a indoor running track product)

  • @timsears553
    @timsears553 2 года назад +9

    I used Mohawk Revwood plus a couple times. Still dusty to cut but super easy to install. Two and a half years, three young kids, and a 60lb dog later, and the only damage to the floor is the one or two spots where a knife was dropped point-down. The floor looks fantastic, always getting compliments on it. The buyers of that house were shocked when we told them the floor was over two years old.
    Some styles of revwood appear to be slightly more scratch and dent resistant, but we liked it enough to put it in the next house too.

    • @crystalline9098
      @crystalline9098 Год назад +3

      I just installed Revwood Premier some weeks ago. So far okay…. Hopefully 20 years from now still okay!!!

    • @matteosummer79
      @matteosummer79 6 дней назад

      Revwood is great!

  • @TheStrivering
    @TheStrivering Год назад +4

    I got the vinyl floor from Costco, took a couple days, installed it just to rip it out and buy laminate from Costco and install it. Vinyl is cheap. A lot of waste because of the broken locking grooves. Also gave a really cold floor and hard surface to walk on. Laminate is complete opposite. It's very nice. I really like the laminate.

  • @TheBooze13
    @TheBooze13 2 года назад +5

    I just put laminate floors in really nice thick waterproof sounds great to walk on and looks extremely close to real wood definitely recommend

  • @marinerman5363
    @marinerman5363 2 года назад +7

    Can you make a video on replacing a waterproof vinyl that has been damaged
    Because of water ?

    • @Aeroliten
      @Aeroliten Год назад

      Didn't even know vinyl could be damaged by water, can you explain?

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      @@Aeroliten in certain situations, like on a slab the hydrostatic pressure can cause the boards to peak.
      I work in restoration and see it all the time from fly by night builders who are like, "its water proof, I don't need to spend the 20 cents a square foot for a vapor barrier.:
      Water proof itself is an incredibly loaded term.
      Most modern floors (vinyl and laminates) that are quality are functionally waterproof.. once you get to this area, it normally becomes a insurance claim.

  • @johnrocha3293
    @johnrocha3293 2 года назад +4

    I Have kiddos and I made the mistake of putting laminate flooring 😞 We have recently purchased a house with Vinyl flooring and I will forever be a fan of vinyl flooring…. If you have young kiddos who play sports ⚽️ 🏈 🏀 I highly recommend Vinyl flooring…

    • @RogerPack
      @RogerPack Месяц назад

      Why what happens to it? :)

  • @mourtejin
    @mourtejin Год назад +23

    If you're a landlord you can't really trust that spills will be cleaned up in 24 hrs. Carpet is also a no-go.

    • @amberslilrose3954
      @amberslilrose3954 11 месяцев назад

      Laminate sheeting 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @Matt90541
      @Matt90541 7 месяцев назад

      I'm a landlord and have had carpet for the past 15 years renting. No problems.

  • @sknapp19911
    @sknapp19911 2 года назад +3

    Sound doesn’t sound right on videos. 2nd short I stumbled across. It has a maxed-out-yet-muffled tone to it - like I’m covering my speaker. Just FYI

  • @RobbieBeswick
    @RobbieBeswick 2 года назад +2

    laminates making a comeback? here in the UK its been the go to choice for flooring in kitchens for over 10 years, vinyl is lesser desired floor

  • @ACYT298
    @ACYT298 2 года назад +3

    Yes but what are some good brands , so many at the big box stores have have a inferior product who's joints that are paper thin and break or don't lock in to said joints or both , same thing goes for vinyl plank flooring. Had to replace some procore brand vinyl plank with ceramic tile flooring because the joints were fragile and wouldn't lock in.

  • @slayerspam
    @slayerspam 2 года назад +5

    I've installed both laminate and lvp. Only lvp for builders I've worked for, and I prefer the way laminate feels. My boss always recommended lvp but it seems cheaper than good quality laminate. The way pergo snaps together, is bulletproof and has a more robust texture makes it feel like real wood

  • @karnige5804
    @karnige5804 2 года назад +11

    laminate is warmer, water resistant now. the edges have wax on it now so it creates a water seal.

    • @AhilenBernal
      @AhilenBernal Год назад

      I just bought laminate and I started getting soooo worried after so many cons. The one I got is water resistance.

  • @YellowBunchofBananas
    @YellowBunchofBananas 2 года назад +5

    I'd love to see a video about VCT, Jeff. Seems perfect for a church basement lol...!

  • @grimki11er
    @grimki11er Год назад +2

    As a pet owner i decided to only go with full water proof, its expensive but less than changing the whole floor

  • @coolhluke8089
    @coolhluke8089 Год назад +14

    As a flooring installer I always recommend that my customers do not skimp on the price of materials on their flooring.

    • @El_Prophet11
      @El_Prophet11 Год назад +1

      Which is a good flooring material brand anti water anti moist that would last forever ?

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +7

      @@El_Prophet11 Pretty much any quality floor (LVP or Laminate) will serve those purposes... at least for what it actually matters.
      Nothing really lasts forever though.
      Water resistant Laminates have the edge up on durability though.
      Waterproof is a loaded term for flooring. It doesn't really mean what most people think it means.
      A piece of LVP is waterproof. You can throw it in a pool for a week, take it out, dry it and install it.... but if your dishwasher explodes you are going to lose it anyway, because they are going to tear it out to get to your subfloor or slab to repair damage/remediate.

    • @El_Prophet11
      @El_Prophet11 Год назад +1

      @@daleludtke7803 thank you brother

    • @coolhluke8089
      @coolhluke8089 Год назад

      @@El_Prophet11out of all the flooring that I've installed I personally like the smartcore ultra the best from Lowes.

    • @retroplank
      @retroplank 7 месяцев назад

      Any thoughts on bamboo flooring?

  • @johnathankoch1570
    @johnathankoch1570 Год назад +6

    I put some 1/2 laminate from the big blue store in my grandpa's a few years ago. I've installed over 10k sq ft of different vinyls and so far that laminate was my favorite!

  • @Crunchifyable2
    @Crunchifyable2 Год назад +2

    When you have a house full of unlevel floors vinyl doesn't work very well. Laminate is probably much more sturdy.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      It has more "meat" so it can handle deflection better. You still should be leveling that floor though. The locking mechanism can still fail if there is to much unevenness.
      Laminates can just handle it better.

  • @torres_anderson
    @torres_anderson 2 года назад +3

    The good laminate i think because most of home Depot are pure garbage.

  • @Catlady8
    @Catlady8 Год назад +2

    The problem currently is all you see in stores (and houses for sale) is that cold, sterile, medicinal gray💀which is a trend that already looks dated. After the past 3 yrs I would think most people want their home to feel “cozy & alive”. Apparently manufacturers & stores have a ton of that gray they are trying to unload. Bring on the warmth or at the least, neutral🙏🏼

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +1

      Those stores need to update.
      Grey started to die out last year hard.
      Right now the trend is for bright, almost unfinished woods. Norwegian or Swedish style finishes.
      With a hint of some warmer brown styles creeping around.

    • @Catlady8
      @Catlady8 Год назад

      @@daleludtke7803 Exactly, pale blonde tones & midtone browns are what’s in. But the problem is they are trying to unload all those gray floors so people (homeowners & flippers) are still buying the gray & putting it in homes they are listing for sale😳😫

  • @timandshannon03
    @timandshannon03 2 года назад +3

    I had laminate that fell apart after 5 years. Floor completely destroyed in the kitchen. Laid down Vinyl 10 years ago. Not one single problem. I will never, ever use laminate again. Vinyl or hardwood. No in-between. LoL

    • @andreyangere3076
      @andreyangere3076 2 года назад

      Laminate in the kitchen? Makes sense why it fell apart lol

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +1

      That is surprising.
      A good laminate can handle more traffic than a good vinyl, and can take the moisture unless you are dropping buckets of water on it every day.

  • @Deidera1997
    @Deidera1997 22 дня назад

    It will make a comeback at the expense of people’s health and indoor air quality. Look into laminate and VOCs. I would avoid using them especially in bedrooms. Go for engineered wood.

  • @smiller6925
    @smiller6925 2 месяца назад

    My locking laminate flooring DELAMINATED. Nightmare

  • @poisinkink
    @poisinkink 2 года назад +4

    Vinyl is the best. I laid my basement with it

  • @livingthedreamag
    @livingthedreamag Месяц назад

    Solid hardwood floors are natural and not full of chemicals. We should all be promoting renewable resources such as solid hardwood floors.

  • @Angel_Hearted50
    @Angel_Hearted50 11 месяцев назад

    Not a good idea. There's weight baring issues. Current resident in a 2021 constructed 4 story elevator building. First tenant in this apartment with the use of a mobility scooter. Just learned in October 2023 that underneath have issues. Many areas have soft spots, visible signs of warping. I am nervous.

  • @xX_Dr_Suave_Xx
    @xX_Dr_Suave_Xx Год назад +3

    Thank you for this information, I watching your videos help me prepare to do my flooring 🙌

  • @jag5316
    @jag5316 10 месяцев назад +4

    I used laminate flooring when I recently renovated a bathroom in my home. I had to take out the dry rotted subflooring, which I replaced with pressure treated plywood, and sister one of the joists. Two years later I don’t see any water leaks, and the flooring still looks pristine. When I get around to renovating my other bathroom I will use laminate in that one too. The real tile floor looks great, but the grout gets stained and gross and makes the bathroom stinky.

    • @j.w.r.i2910
      @j.w.r.i2910 2 месяца назад +1

      Use porcelain tile and epoxy grout for your tile joints and problem solved.

    • @jag5316
      @jag5316 2 месяца назад

      @@j.w.r.i2910 thanks for the tip. I have been leaning toward a lazy man solution and just putting down floor leveler and painting it with epoxy paint.

  • @kleco1000
    @kleco1000 2 года назад

    So Im with Von and em, but since von aint here no more lemme throw the guys who still fight case under the bus by saying Von would if been lock up for life because he was the head of the oblock shit🤦🏾‍♂️. Basically say Von n those guy are guilty. Why would be lock for life Breezy?

  • @jamiebeith1875
    @jamiebeith1875 2 года назад +1

    no sound for me

  • @chazcollier6366
    @chazcollier6366 Год назад +1

    The “laminate” or hybrid flooring you recommended doesn’t hold up well. They pull apart at the tongues all the time. Plastic all the way through is the move and only buy 7mm or thicker. Spend the money or replace your cheaper version in 2 years.

  • @rtel123
    @rtel123 2 месяца назад

    never again laminate! Yes, hard durable surface but it is particleboard with tongue and groove! Because of the stupid foam underlay idea, when a 200lb person stands on only one plank, it can sink a couple 100ths of an inch and fracture the "glue and sawdust" tongue! Got my money back with a fight supported by youtubers with the same outrage.

  • @nostickpeople
    @nostickpeople 2 года назад +1

    As a person that has sold flooring for 36yrs laminate will never be water or pet proof! Its still a pretty picture printed on cardboard! You get what you pay for. Luxury vinyl is truly waterproof. Just don't buy the 1.99sf crap.. Note 99% of the laminate is also made over seas!

  • @MrShitthead
    @MrShitthead Год назад +5

    I actually used to do flooring and I really hated working with vinyl, most the stuff today is brittle and chips really easily if you’re not very careful. Once it’s installed it’s great, but my biggest problem isn’t even so much the vinyl, it’s the false sense of security the “waterproofing” gives people.
    Vinyl itself won’t get damaged by water, but it is NOT water tight. So if you spill a lot of water on your vinyl it’s going to get through the cracks, which is why I think it’s absolutely insane that im seeing people put that in their bathrooms and kitchens.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      Nothing wrong with putting LVPs in bathrooms, but you are 100% right about the false sense of security that people think it gives them.
      The floor covering is waterproof, not surface it is installed on.
      You are also right about the brittleness. The current trend for budget saving with LVPs is to make them thinner and thinner. Much of the stuff I sell now in the sub 3-4 dollar range can have the locking mechanism snapped with your thumb. Installers aren't a fan of them, as they break alot of those edges trying to install them.
      Thicker LVPs (6mms or more) don't really have this issue, but at that point you could have gotten a laminate that would have done the same work for less.

  • @victorlivingston7423
    @victorlivingston7423 Месяц назад

    I have a bi level that where the first floor was never finished. I’ve recently finished it excluding the floor. The floor is a 4in slab (please, I did not build this house and I didn’t know the thickness of the slab until after I purchased) I believe it has a moisture barrier under the slab. I’ve used the first floor as a storage for 2 yrs (bags, boxes, wood, etc directly on floor and never seen a wet spot.) My question is can I make sub system of 6mil Barrier, osb, then laminate?

  • @patrickbrown3135
    @patrickbrown3135 6 дней назад

    Anything with a press board core is junk. Laminate sucks. Don't be a tightwad.

  • @Unaveragetrainguy
    @Unaveragetrainguy 2 месяца назад

    Nope. Laminate still fundamentally a bad performing flooring.

  • @jerseyjim9092
    @jerseyjim9092 7 месяцев назад +1

    We've had 1st generation glue together Pergo laminate in the dry rooms of of our home for almost 30 years. Its held up against wear and tear and spills and we're only replacing it because of remodeling. I'm skeptical of the durabilty claims of LVP so we're leaning toward laminate again which has a proven track record. We're be searching for a brand that is also bathroom and kitchen friendly..

  • @natyong
    @natyong Год назад

    Oohhhh 24hrs....&sarcasm. Not solving it's problem. You have 24 hrs to remove everything in the room take up every piece of your floor. Yeah no laminate is still only going to be the flooring of the flipper, uninformed, or no other options.

  • @broomfieldsdual-sport
    @broomfieldsdual-sport 5 месяцев назад

    I got dubi flooring. Absolutely garbage. They dont hold together well. Wouldnt recommend it.

  • @TheRockofEasyCo
    @TheRockofEasyCo 2 года назад +3

    The vinyl I’ve installed wears my blades out faster and is also so flimsy and easy to break and crack. I have to be so gentle with it to avoid chipping.

    • @johncharbonneau8108
      @johncharbonneau8108 2 года назад

      Need to use higher quality and buy the cutting tool off Amazon that Jeff recommends for $80, well worth it.

  • @mrherdman6065
    @mrherdman6065 7 месяцев назад

    Well I’m getting 61 meters for 1,400 for my full house with under lay and if I was getting carpets it would be 2x the price

  • @mr.fahrenheit310
    @mr.fahrenheit310 Год назад

    Still not waterproof...and those "guarantees" don't actually work.

  • @mrreid1960
    @mrreid1960 Год назад +1

    There is no such thing as waterproof. Water will go to the edge absorb into wall wood and dry wall and get under flooring.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      I tell people this all the time in my business.

  • @ScottDeSalvo
    @ScottDeSalvo 28 дней назад

    Vinyl floors are as visually attractive as other flooring. Now, it remains easier to install, it is the same color to a deep depth to hide scratches and it is 100% waterproof. That means it is completely safe for wet areas and basements and houses with children and pets wear spills or liquid on the floor may not be discovered within 24 hours
    Laminate flooring is a good idea, but it is inferior in every way to a quality vinyl floor with current technology.😊

  • @per619
    @per619 Месяц назад

    I've looked at over 100 homes in the last few months. Laminate cups and warps. Don't buy laminate!

  • @stroys7061
    @stroys7061 7 месяцев назад

    The sound is horrible!
    Stopped watching to save my right eardrum.
    👎👎

  • @simpsonhomerenovations
    @simpsonhomerenovations 2 года назад

    I don't like it. Even the new stuff feels cheap, looks cheap, and it has 24-hour water protection.yeah right

  • @BradyReese
    @BradyReese Год назад +2

    Great tips but I do demolition for a restoration company
    There's nothing water can't get into and destroy it

    • @dwaynemartin8256
      @dwaynemartin8256 Год назад

      Absolutely true. I believe he said it was resistant to spills, not waterproof.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      I sell products to like four or five different restoration companies, and help their clients make selections.
      They will come in and ask for vinyl because they need something waterproof, and I will ask them what they had in before.
      "Ma'am, that tile you had before was 'waterproof'... they still had to tear it out to get to the subfloor."
      I tell them waterproof is a loaded term, and what you need is something that is functionally waterproof. Which means good for "living on." Stuff like spills, tracked water, etc.

  • @thomaslehmann5981
    @thomaslehmann5981 Год назад +2

    The aquaguard laminate from Floor and Decor is way more substantial and looks much better than any of their vinyl floors.
    It's almost like having second subfloor.
    Cost is a little less also.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      Its a good floor. Though I am having a hard time seeing who makes it for them.
      Floor and Decor is basically the costco of the flooring world. Its great for DIYers.

  • @daysofgrace2934
    @daysofgrace2934 2 месяца назад

    72H water resistant laminate is good, was thinking about LVT in the kitchen but honed Dijon limestone tiles cost the same...

  • @bugtusslealien3931
    @bugtusslealien3931 Год назад

    Cheap junk, aren't you the guy who said don't buy junk when your doing work yourself because you save in labor cost.

  • @joshuamills2868
    @joshuamills2868 7 месяцев назад

    House we just bought has half of first floor old narrow red oak solid. Other half has pergo outlast Java. Wich one should I make dominate? Seems like the old red oak scratches real easy if refinished on site

  • @Jonathan-jo2xu
    @Jonathan-jo2xu 2 месяца назад

    So the top is waterproof yes but once that water infiltrates into the seams that's not waterproof is it? especially areas that have been cut. So, unless you seal those cuts up, it's going to suck up the water and it will begin to bulge. same thing if you ever get a scratch on the laminate It will allow for that pressed sawdust inside to take a drink... What do you think?

  • @razmspiele25
    @razmspiele25 2 месяца назад

    24 hours of being water proof is not enough. LVP flooring gets installed in rentals. Some tenants don’t clean up spills at all so LVP will still remain king.

  • @oemca1919
    @oemca1919 Год назад +3

    Great video. Do you have a brand recommendation for laminate ?

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +1

      Mohawk Revwood.
      Its my go-to for Laminate. Their plus and premier (which is gorgeous), are functionally waterproof, you can steam mop them and if installed right can do anything that an LVP can do... while offering superior scratch and wear protection.

  • @remy7938
    @remy7938 2 года назад +1

    Your shorts have very bad audio compared to the rest. Just letting you know ;)

  • @nocount1
    @nocount1 19 дней назад

    I'm not lining all my floors throughout my house with plastic. I can't stand that cheesy crap.

  • @HonzaZalabak
    @HonzaZalabak 2 месяца назад

    I have quality waterproof laminate with hydroseal even for bathrooms and it is amazing

  • @jeffsim8664
    @jeffsim8664 2 месяца назад

    On a quality laminate could you wax the joints in the wet areas. Get them sealed.. entrance ways.. once you transistion to dry your gold.

  • @jmackinjersey1
    @jmackinjersey1 Год назад +1

    Top-down water resistance is only good in a small portion of the country. In places where you have flooding, it is still useless.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +2

      If you have flooding, its all useless.
      They will tear the water proof flooring out to get to your subfloor to repair or remediate.
      Flooding isn't a warranty issue, its an insurance one.

  • @Datanditto
    @Datanditto Год назад

    Clickety clack click clack clunk clik clac..
    No thanks. Im about to instal some beautiful 3/4 pine on my build.

  • @wuhanwendy188
    @wuhanwendy188 Год назад

    It is all garbage just pay the real price and buy real 3/4 hardwood and stop wasting money on cheap flooring that doesn’t hold together or last

  • @LaLadybug2011
    @LaLadybug2011 2 месяца назад

    Does it still sound like you're walking on hard plastic? And the old laminate floors were like a death zone for toddlers, elderly people and pets-too slippery!

  • @renefuentes7085
    @renefuentes7085 2 года назад +2

    Until my suppliers give me a realistic price, I'll keep pushing LVP.

    • @DC-ct8tv
      @DC-ct8tv 2 года назад

      I'm loving the lvp I just had installed, seems alot more water proof than any laminate

  • @dylandog1289
    @dylandog1289 Год назад

    Too bad laminate floors feel absolutely horrible under foot. Nothing like filling your house full of objects and surfaces designed to look like one material but are made of another….

  • @Yld.Thigertz
    @Yld.Thigertz 2 дня назад

    What do you think of Lifeproof stone core hardwood engineered flooring by Home Depot

  • @common_c3nts
    @common_c3nts Год назад

    Why would use laminate if you can use vinyl. Vinyl is better for durability, water, and noise.

  • @e79422
    @e79422 8 месяцев назад

    I have laminate and it sounds fake. Like you are walking on cardboard. It is nothing like real hardwood.

  • @_t_f_
    @_t_f_ 2 года назад +2

    My right ear enjoyed this video.

  • @fareshajjar1208
    @fareshajjar1208 Год назад

    Looks like garbage. Basically a photograph of wood-grain on your floor.

  • @PoisonJarl71501
    @PoisonJarl71501 2 года назад

    You don’t kidding. LVP is flimsy and weak and the t+g do break easily

  • @MartinEB72
    @MartinEB72 Год назад

    Just stop trying to imitate wood. Nobody is being fooled. Use a different pattern.

  • @toshiro-kano
    @toshiro-kano Год назад +1

    Yup. Just went house shopping and EVERY SINGLE HOUSE that got some sort of remodel had that exact same flooring in it

  • @busterbuster8193
    @busterbuster8193 Год назад +1

    Laminate edges absorb water when faucets - drains - sinks - toilets - clothes washers - water heaters leak. It's only a matter of time when it happens. The edges swells and becomes unsightly. A 24 hour protection against spills is unacceptable for a floor which should always be durable above all features.

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад

      If you have a leak like that, eventually you will lose all your floor.

  • @DaruDhillon
    @DaruDhillon Год назад +4

    A huge problem with the drop in LVP popularity is due to its long period of off gassing and the chemicals used during production. A lot of homeowners are researching vinyl flooring and are choosing healthier more sustainable options for their homes.

    • @Aeroliten
      @Aeroliten Год назад

      I got my LVP from the orange box place and it hasn't had any issues with off-gassing

    • @daleludtke7803
      @daleludtke7803 Год назад +2

      Depends on the LVP.
      Most SPC core materials have no PVC in them so they don't really outgas. WPC vinyls do however, but those are not as popular as they were.
      Laminates on the other hand, will outgas more.
      Which is why you have the two rating systems. Floor Score safe, which tests like 28 different chemicals that make people sick, and is a government rating system.
      Then Greenguard, which is more of a independent testing system, that tests for more.
      Greenguard is technically a higher rating, and is usually only found with SPC cored LVPs.

    • @Roughneck-mm2df
      @Roughneck-mm2df Год назад

      😂 ok

  • @stevenjeffries7951
    @stevenjeffries7951 2 года назад +1

    The sound on your videos only comes through the right speaker, not the left one and it sounds a bit muffled.

  • @thelazyhandyman
    @thelazyhandyman Месяц назад

    Wonder what brand is good and recommended in Montreal area...

  • @shaggys73
    @shaggys73 2 года назад +14

    I just installed 12mm lam and the 60 pound dogs cant scratch it so much more durable then real wood or vinyl

    • @adamradley4407
      @adamradley4407 2 года назад +5

      We used the 12mm also. It's throughout our basement and second floor. It doesn't dent, ding or scratch. It looks good and is easy to clean and was easy to install with a block and mallet. I personally have no complaints.

    • @chriscorey3926
      @chriscorey3926 11 месяцев назад

      Is there a brand you can recommend?

  • @indyfosho5458
    @indyfosho5458 4 месяца назад

    Just buy good laminate. Put my pergo laminate in a bucket of water for a month and nothing happened to it

  • @haaatg
    @haaatg Год назад

    24 hours water proof I bet a lot of people will not catch it within those time so to destroying and replacing that's when you are wrong. Laminate need to do better than that to win

  • @slippinslidewayz
    @slippinslidewayz Год назад +1

    My parents have had laminate for about 20 years and it's only now just showing the wear. It was on clearance at Value City way back when. Laminate is good, just take decent care of it. Hardwood will last much longer, but we don't all have that budget.

  • @carltonlayne9937
    @carltonlayne9937 Год назад

    Laminate sucks there is no appeal to laminate floor. Can handle the heat in the house and the call separates all the time with the matters to have a new Locking System there will still separate because you have to leave the space sticking that be tight because each other

  • @aslanhoskin1592
    @aslanhoskin1592 6 дней назад

    white wood laminate white wood laminate white wood laminate

  • @Bigandbad1985
    @Bigandbad1985 3 месяца назад

    Laminate is trash vinyl or hardwood are your best options at least you can wash it for without damaging it

  • @Ancientcaptain
    @Ancientcaptain 2 года назад +1

    Hey I'll take either if it's the right price, a jigsaw with a good blade helps the dust on laminate if you cut it over plastic not dust free but not nearly as dusty as circular saw and blades are cheaper if that's a concern

  • @donhatfield3562
    @donhatfield3562 Месяц назад

    Can you give an example of these more robust laminate options?

  • @meepee84
    @meepee84 Год назад

    What are you saving materials you pay way more in labor not worth it LVP for the win