Why I Think Laminate Flooring Is Making a Comeback
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Laminate flooring isn't what it used to be - here's why.
Need Answers or Advice for your DIY Project?
BECOME A DIY MEMBER NOW!
Become a DIY Member by Clicking the Link Here:
/ homerenovisiondiy
► Get FULL access to me and my team for Q and A’s in the DIY Crew Forum
► Participate in monthly LIVE streams for live consulting and Member support!
Shop Jeff’s favorite tools and great products and help support our next project!
► Shop Wayfair 🇨🇦: www.jdoqocy.com...
► Shop Wayfair 🇺🇸: www.jdoqocy.com...
► Shop Amazon 🇨🇦: geni.us/mlVE (Amazon)
► Shop Amazon 🇺🇸: www.amazon.com...
► Shop Home Depot: homedepot.sjv....
► For discounts on flooring, paint, hardscapes, soundproofing and more visit our website:
homerenovision...
*****Be sure to use the coupon codes before checkout
Did you know we are launching a newsletter? Sign up here: homerenovision...
🔨 SHOP TOOLS 🔨
Tape Measure - geni.us/TapeMe...
DeWALT Mitre Saw - geni.us/MiterS...
Level - geni.us/BeamLe...
DeWALT Circular Saw - geni.us/Circul...
DeWALT Sawzall - geni.us/Recipr...
DeWALT Drill - geni.us/Cordle...
Makita Jig Saw - geni.us/TopHan...
Oscillating Multi Tool - geni.us/Electr...
WHAT TO WATCH NEXT:
► DIY How to Build a Shed A to Z - • DIY How to Build a She...
► How to Tile Over an Existing Back Splash with Subway Tile - • Prova Solution To Kerd...
► How To Paint A Room | DIY For Beginners - • How To Paint A Room | ...
#justdoityourself #lovingit #perfecteverytime
SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNELS
► Subscribe NOW and hit the bell to get notified about new videos - / homerenovisiondiy
► Subscribe NOW to our 2nd Channel Reality Renovision - / realityrenovision
► Subscribe NOW to our 3rd Channel Home Renovision en Español - / @homerenovisionenespañol
FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA:
INSTAGRAM: / homerenovis. .
FACEBOOK: / homerenovisi. .
PINTEREST: / homerenovis. .
TIKTOK: vm.tiktok.com/...
Produced by: Home Renovision DIY 2021
Disclaimer:
Videos produced by Home Renovision are provided for informational purposes only. All material provided within this website is for informational, educational, & entertainment purposes only. Some of these projects, materials, and techniques may not be appropriate for all ages or skill levels. The DIY instructions used here are used to simply breakdown projects to their simplest steps. Please use a clear mind and use all safety precautions while following the tutorials provided by this site. Home Renovision does not make any claims of the safety of the projects, techniques, or resources listed on this site and will not take responsibility of what you do with the information provided by this site. Viewers must be aware by doing projects on their homes they are doing it at their own risk and HRV cannot be held liable if they cause any damage to their homes. With different codes around the world and constantly changing standards, regulations and rules, it is the sole responsibility of the viewer to educate themselves on their local requirements before undertaking any sort of project. That being said HRV cannot claim liability with all applicable laws, rules, codes and regulations for a project. Be safe, have fun renovating and ALWAYS stay informed with your local building code.
HomeRenoVisionDIY may earn an affiliate commission if you purchase something through recommended links. #commissionsearned - Хобби
Let me know when dirt floors are coming back. Want my DIY projects to be as cheap as possible
LOL. Cheers!
dirt cheap!
Hahahahahhahahah.
Best reply yet ! 👍
Rammed earth floor
Ye-olden hardwood floors are just about the only thing that has lasted the test of time.
Concrete, stone, brick, wood, etc. all last if you don't mess them up. Only reason laminate hasn't "lasted the test of time" is because it's a new product. It should last indefinitely if taken care of.
Wood floors are great if you have $20000 to spend on flooring. And water can still ruin it.
@@HappyBeeHoney Sure, if your house is 8,000 square feet . Hardwood is barely more expensive (depending on what you get). I got Brazilian Teak for 2.5/sqft (at a builder auction a few months ago), and you can get oak for mid 2's as well. I mean, sure you can get an exotic $20+sqft wood, but most people just get oak. Laminate is usually around 2 so you spend, what, a dollar more per square foot? So a lot closer to $2,000 more than $20,000 (unless you live in an 8,000 sqft house of course).
@@user-nh3gu1ge3d It's about $7/sqft for 3/4" red oak in CA, plus install is a bit more technical than snapping laminate together so you might be looking at install costs. And I prefer unfinished wood that is finished after install, so add finishing costs to that price.
@@HappyBeeHoney CA being overpriced is an issue with CA, not wood. But yeah, it's definitely more labor esp if you don't get prefinished. Like I said, I got my Brazilian Teak for 2.5/sqft which is about what laminate costs, but then install and finishing was def. more expensive than laminate (because there is none). It cost me about 3k more than laminate per thousand sqft. I think that's a relatively small price to pay for a vastly superior product but to each his own, I suppose.
You're only going to spend 20k (total or extra) if you get gouged for living in cali, get gouged at the store for the product, have a ginormous house, and/or get gouged on install. I picked mine up myself from the auction so it's a lot less convenient, have to organize your own transport via truck/trailer, and wait for an auction to roll around. But for a once in 30-50 year event, a little extra leg work is well worth it. Again, just my opinion. YMMV.
I have completed several flooring projects using laminate floors, all labeled as “water resistant.” In a mudroom where we enter our house, we had to replace some boards because the constant dampness from wet boots, became damaged. The joints showed expansion and discoloration. We replaced the floor with a totally water proof vinyl and after two winters, no evidence of damage! The words “water resistant” do not mean water proof.
What about the ones that say waterproof
@@erbrooks only man made materials that don't absorb water are waterproof
water resistant means you still had to mop up the water, rather than wait for it to air dry
You're absolutely right!!!😊
Just tile it. Nearly as cheap
My right ear enjoyed this a lot more than my left.
Hahaha I was looking if anyone else had this issue. Glad to know I'm not alone.
on god!
😂😂😂😂 mine too. What’s that about!
Thanks for this comment. I only had my left in and was wondering why was going on
Same, I took my headphones off like🤨
My experience is get the thickest laminate you can. 15mm and a good underlayment. Don’t skip the underlayment even when going over wood subfloor. The thin vinyl seems to flex more when walking on it. Just my opinion.
Floor Prep is a must.
Thinner LVPs are failing at an alarming rate because floors aren't being prepped correctly, or the house is shifting and pushing them out of the floor's tolerances for height variations.
Laminates have more meat behind them, gives them more to work with when it comes to that variation.
Floors still need to be prepped/leveled, but the tolerance for failure is far far better on a product that has some thickness to it.
They make LVPs that do the same (7mm or more), but you start seeing the price point start to increase drastically.
There is nothing a vinyl does that a good laminate can also do, often times better.
Some have underpayment on the planks some don’t. Also factor in the locking style tung and groves the best because you can slide the planks to fit them in place
I agree. Always use a nice underlayment; I used HDs cork one and it was excellent. I always go LVP though, no laminate.
Finished a good week and a half prep on floors for 3 bedrooms in my house. The floor I’m replacing is a pergo laminate from 10-11 years ago. I was dead set on getting vinyl flooring but ended up going for the Allen & Roth laminate. It was just better at every test I threw at it. Looked better, thicker, heavyier, but the locking system is what ultimately swayed me. It took pliers to break it when I tested the strength. And definitely not cutting through it with a box cutter. Oh yeah it was cheaper as well for the Cherry on top. I recommend it 100%.
How about sheet linoleum? I'm seriously considering it!
You don't normally see actual linoleum anymore. But Forbo does Marmoleum, which is the same natural products.
What most people today think is linoleum is actually sheet vinyl.
Prices can range from dirt cheap to more than most LVPs/Laminates.
The install is more complicated than most people realize, with more embossing and prep required than floating floors.
Okay so here's the deal with sheet vinyl (what you're probably talking about): It is AMAZING to walk on, if you get good quality thick kind. Sort of between carpet and hardwood, where sturdy glasses won't break and it's comfortable to kneel on. And if you have pets that like to piss all the time, you wipe it up and you're done. No gaps, no cracks, no grout, and if you put a 1/4 inch ridge below the edge of it at the walls, piss won't go under it. it's effortless.
BUT IT RIPS IF YOU LOOK AT IT. Every single item you own will need to be put on furniture sliders, or their feet will rip it. And you will need to glue it down if you don't want to go insane with how loud claws are while pets walk on it. But none of that is super hard, and the benefits for pet owners and for general livability (again, it feels much more like carpet than laminate or hardwood or LVP) make it worth the hassle imo.
I'm a huge fan of the laminate from Sam's Club. Good quality, built in padding, and a very good price. Vinyl scratches to easily. The only place I'll use it is in a bathroom.
24 hour coverage is pretty useless. Where you find laminate failures are typically at noticed leak points ie refrigerator, freezer, water heater, etc. so unless you notice the leak in 24 hours. You are still screwed.
I work for a flooring distributor and you are 100% right. Our LVP sales have plummeted and with the new laminates that are coming out, we’re going through so much we can barely keep it in stock.
Can you recommend a laminate?
I sell floors for a living and have moved into my second market.
I am doing my best to turn people away from LVPs here too. To much hassle. We are about 4-5 years into the current LVP trend of thinning out those cores to 4-5mm thick and the claims are starting to roll in... especially on the DIYers.
Similar to the 10 year mark when people started to realize their LVPs scratch alot easier than they were sold on and their floors don't look as good.
With laminates basically solving their water issues in the last few years you have the advantage of a floor that doesn't really scratch easy and can handle moisture.
People just have a bad taste in their mouths from the old Pergos from 30 years ago. They couldn't handle moisture and they installed them in wet areas.
They see the bubbling and think its a terrible floor and conviniently forget that in their living room it usually still looks great because it wears like iron.
@@bman041 RevWood from Mohawk. Their Premier line specifically.
Looks amazing. Its functionally water proof. You can steam mop it and installed right can go in wet areas like bathrooms.
Its about as close in appearance that you can get to actual hardwood without it being wood.
It will make pretty much any LVP look like the hunk of plastic that it is.
We own a business installing LVP and other hard surface flooring. Ive seen many different brands.
24-hour water resistance is very misleading... thats just for on the SURFACE. It'll still seep between, getting underneath, causing issues if it's repeatedly happening.
The core is impregnated with epoxy resin, in Europe 72H laminate is the norm we sell. Problem with LVT is it costs the same as honed filled travertine and limestone, most customers go for proper luxury at the price...
Whats LVP?
@@denisemartin3603 Luxury Vinyl Planks or the wood looking floor planks
The original Pergo laminate floor glued together is the perfect laminate floor little harder to install but perfect. Kitchen 23 years and counting.
Here in Australia it's came back everyone is going for laminate for about 4 years . If they could find a way to put it into wet areas they would and ill be out of a job as a tiler.
I'm building in NSW at the moment and I think I saw options for wet areas while looking at my choices. (I went for tiles in my laundry, bath and WC anyway)
I found it strange that vinyl so much popular, in fact it feels cold and rigid for a feet. All my family just loves 15mm laminate compared to 4mm vinyl
Imagine walking in your house on plastic.
Its the waterproof part of it that tricks them
And Sales people basically lying to them about how tough they are.
I also sell floors, and I come across it all the time.
I have worn keys out on samples proving just how different the products are on wear.
The New laminate is pretty amazing as long as you're paying for a quality product.
i install flooring and everytime i install vinyl the eintire time im thinking that theres no way i would ever want to talk on this all the time. i would rather put elestimer in my house before that stuff. (its a indoor running track product)
I used Mohawk Revwood plus a couple times. Still dusty to cut but super easy to install. Two and a half years, three young kids, and a 60lb dog later, and the only damage to the floor is the one or two spots where a knife was dropped point-down. The floor looks fantastic, always getting compliments on it. The buyers of that house were shocked when we told them the floor was over two years old.
Some styles of revwood appear to be slightly more scratch and dent resistant, but we liked it enough to put it in the next house too.
I just installed Revwood Premier some weeks ago. So far okay…. Hopefully 20 years from now still okay!!!
Revwood is great!
I got the vinyl floor from Costco, took a couple days, installed it just to rip it out and buy laminate from Costco and install it. Vinyl is cheap. A lot of waste because of the broken locking grooves. Also gave a really cold floor and hard surface to walk on. Laminate is complete opposite. It's very nice. I really like the laminate.
I just put laminate floors in really nice thick waterproof sounds great to walk on and looks extremely close to real wood definitely recommend
Can you make a video on replacing a waterproof vinyl that has been damaged
Because of water ?
Didn't even know vinyl could be damaged by water, can you explain?
@@Aeroliten in certain situations, like on a slab the hydrostatic pressure can cause the boards to peak.
I work in restoration and see it all the time from fly by night builders who are like, "its water proof, I don't need to spend the 20 cents a square foot for a vapor barrier.:
Water proof itself is an incredibly loaded term.
Most modern floors (vinyl and laminates) that are quality are functionally waterproof.. once you get to this area, it normally becomes a insurance claim.
I Have kiddos and I made the mistake of putting laminate flooring 😞 We have recently purchased a house with Vinyl flooring and I will forever be a fan of vinyl flooring…. If you have young kiddos who play sports ⚽️ 🏈 🏀 I highly recommend Vinyl flooring…
Why what happens to it? :)
If you're a landlord you can't really trust that spills will be cleaned up in 24 hrs. Carpet is also a no-go.
Laminate sheeting 🤷🏼♀️
I'm a landlord and have had carpet for the past 15 years renting. No problems.
Sound doesn’t sound right on videos. 2nd short I stumbled across. It has a maxed-out-yet-muffled tone to it - like I’m covering my speaker. Just FYI
laminates making a comeback? here in the UK its been the go to choice for flooring in kitchens for over 10 years, vinyl is lesser desired floor
Cheers Robbie. Appreciate that!
Yes but what are some good brands , so many at the big box stores have have a inferior product who's joints that are paper thin and break or don't lock in to said joints or both , same thing goes for vinyl plank flooring. Had to replace some procore brand vinyl plank with ceramic tile flooring because the joints were fragile and wouldn't lock in.
I will be doing a video soon. Cheers!
I've installed both laminate and lvp. Only lvp for builders I've worked for, and I prefer the way laminate feels. My boss always recommended lvp but it seems cheaper than good quality laminate. The way pergo snaps together, is bulletproof and has a more robust texture makes it feel like real wood
100%
So which one do u recommend??
laminate is warmer, water resistant now. the edges have wax on it now so it creates a water seal.
I just bought laminate and I started getting soooo worried after so many cons. The one I got is water resistance.
I'd love to see a video about VCT, Jeff. Seems perfect for a church basement lol...!
As a pet owner i decided to only go with full water proof, its expensive but less than changing the whole floor
As a flooring installer I always recommend that my customers do not skimp on the price of materials on their flooring.
Which is a good flooring material brand anti water anti moist that would last forever ?
@@El_Prophet11 Pretty much any quality floor (LVP or Laminate) will serve those purposes... at least for what it actually matters.
Nothing really lasts forever though.
Water resistant Laminates have the edge up on durability though.
Waterproof is a loaded term for flooring. It doesn't really mean what most people think it means.
A piece of LVP is waterproof. You can throw it in a pool for a week, take it out, dry it and install it.... but if your dishwasher explodes you are going to lose it anyway, because they are going to tear it out to get to your subfloor or slab to repair damage/remediate.
@@daleludtke7803 thank you brother
@@El_Prophet11out of all the flooring that I've installed I personally like the smartcore ultra the best from Lowes.
Any thoughts on bamboo flooring?
I put some 1/2 laminate from the big blue store in my grandpa's a few years ago. I've installed over 10k sq ft of different vinyls and so far that laminate was my favorite!
When you have a house full of unlevel floors vinyl doesn't work very well. Laminate is probably much more sturdy.
It has more "meat" so it can handle deflection better. You still should be leveling that floor though. The locking mechanism can still fail if there is to much unevenness.
Laminates can just handle it better.
The good laminate i think because most of home Depot are pure garbage.
The problem currently is all you see in stores (and houses for sale) is that cold, sterile, medicinal gray💀which is a trend that already looks dated. After the past 3 yrs I would think most people want their home to feel “cozy & alive”. Apparently manufacturers & stores have a ton of that gray they are trying to unload. Bring on the warmth or at the least, neutral🙏🏼
Those stores need to update.
Grey started to die out last year hard.
Right now the trend is for bright, almost unfinished woods. Norwegian or Swedish style finishes.
With a hint of some warmer brown styles creeping around.
@@daleludtke7803 Exactly, pale blonde tones & midtone browns are what’s in. But the problem is they are trying to unload all those gray floors so people (homeowners & flippers) are still buying the gray & putting it in homes they are listing for sale😳😫
I had laminate that fell apart after 5 years. Floor completely destroyed in the kitchen. Laid down Vinyl 10 years ago. Not one single problem. I will never, ever use laminate again. Vinyl or hardwood. No in-between. LoL
Laminate in the kitchen? Makes sense why it fell apart lol
That is surprising.
A good laminate can handle more traffic than a good vinyl, and can take the moisture unless you are dropping buckets of water on it every day.
It will make a comeback at the expense of people’s health and indoor air quality. Look into laminate and VOCs. I would avoid using them especially in bedrooms. Go for engineered wood.
My locking laminate flooring DELAMINATED. Nightmare
Vinyl is the best. I laid my basement with it
Solid hardwood floors are natural and not full of chemicals. We should all be promoting renewable resources such as solid hardwood floors.
Not a good idea. There's weight baring issues. Current resident in a 2021 constructed 4 story elevator building. First tenant in this apartment with the use of a mobility scooter. Just learned in October 2023 that underneath have issues. Many areas have soft spots, visible signs of warping. I am nervous.
Thank you for this information, I watching your videos help me prepare to do my flooring 🙌
I used laminate flooring when I recently renovated a bathroom in my home. I had to take out the dry rotted subflooring, which I replaced with pressure treated plywood, and sister one of the joists. Two years later I don’t see any water leaks, and the flooring still looks pristine. When I get around to renovating my other bathroom I will use laminate in that one too. The real tile floor looks great, but the grout gets stained and gross and makes the bathroom stinky.
Use porcelain tile and epoxy grout for your tile joints and problem solved.
@@j.w.r.i2910 thanks for the tip. I have been leaning toward a lazy man solution and just putting down floor leveler and painting it with epoxy paint.
So Im with Von and em, but since von aint here no more lemme throw the guys who still fight case under the bus by saying Von would if been lock up for life because he was the head of the oblock shit🤦🏾♂️. Basically say Von n those guy are guilty. Why would be lock for life Breezy?
no sound for me
Same
The “laminate” or hybrid flooring you recommended doesn’t hold up well. They pull apart at the tongues all the time. Plastic all the way through is the move and only buy 7mm or thicker. Spend the money or replace your cheaper version in 2 years.
never again laminate! Yes, hard durable surface but it is particleboard with tongue and groove! Because of the stupid foam underlay idea, when a 200lb person stands on only one plank, it can sink a couple 100ths of an inch and fracture the "glue and sawdust" tongue! Got my money back with a fight supported by youtubers with the same outrage.
As a person that has sold flooring for 36yrs laminate will never be water or pet proof! Its still a pretty picture printed on cardboard! You get what you pay for. Luxury vinyl is truly waterproof. Just don't buy the 1.99sf crap.. Note 99% of the laminate is also made over seas!
I actually used to do flooring and I really hated working with vinyl, most the stuff today is brittle and chips really easily if you’re not very careful. Once it’s installed it’s great, but my biggest problem isn’t even so much the vinyl, it’s the false sense of security the “waterproofing” gives people.
Vinyl itself won’t get damaged by water, but it is NOT water tight. So if you spill a lot of water on your vinyl it’s going to get through the cracks, which is why I think it’s absolutely insane that im seeing people put that in their bathrooms and kitchens.
Nothing wrong with putting LVPs in bathrooms, but you are 100% right about the false sense of security that people think it gives them.
The floor covering is waterproof, not surface it is installed on.
You are also right about the brittleness. The current trend for budget saving with LVPs is to make them thinner and thinner. Much of the stuff I sell now in the sub 3-4 dollar range can have the locking mechanism snapped with your thumb. Installers aren't a fan of them, as they break alot of those edges trying to install them.
Thicker LVPs (6mms or more) don't really have this issue, but at that point you could have gotten a laminate that would have done the same work for less.
I have a bi level that where the first floor was never finished. I’ve recently finished it excluding the floor. The floor is a 4in slab (please, I did not build this house and I didn’t know the thickness of the slab until after I purchased) I believe it has a moisture barrier under the slab. I’ve used the first floor as a storage for 2 yrs (bags, boxes, wood, etc directly on floor and never seen a wet spot.) My question is can I make sub system of 6mil Barrier, osb, then laminate?
Anything with a press board core is junk. Laminate sucks. Don't be a tightwad.
Nope. Laminate still fundamentally a bad performing flooring.
We've had 1st generation glue together Pergo laminate in the dry rooms of of our home for almost 30 years. Its held up against wear and tear and spills and we're only replacing it because of remodeling. I'm skeptical of the durabilty claims of LVP so we're leaning toward laminate again which has a proven track record. We're be searching for a brand that is also bathroom and kitchen friendly..
Oohhhh 24hrs....&sarcasm. Not solving it's problem. You have 24 hrs to remove everything in the room take up every piece of your floor. Yeah no laminate is still only going to be the flooring of the flipper, uninformed, or no other options.
I got dubi flooring. Absolutely garbage. They dont hold together well. Wouldnt recommend it.
The vinyl I’ve installed wears my blades out faster and is also so flimsy and easy to break and crack. I have to be so gentle with it to avoid chipping.
Need to use higher quality and buy the cutting tool off Amazon that Jeff recommends for $80, well worth it.
Well I’m getting 61 meters for 1,400 for my full house with under lay and if I was getting carpets it would be 2x the price
Still not waterproof...and those "guarantees" don't actually work.
There is no such thing as waterproof. Water will go to the edge absorb into wall wood and dry wall and get under flooring.
I tell people this all the time in my business.
Vinyl floors are as visually attractive as other flooring. Now, it remains easier to install, it is the same color to a deep depth to hide scratches and it is 100% waterproof. That means it is completely safe for wet areas and basements and houses with children and pets wear spills or liquid on the floor may not be discovered within 24 hours
Laminate flooring is a good idea, but it is inferior in every way to a quality vinyl floor with current technology.😊
I've looked at over 100 homes in the last few months. Laminate cups and warps. Don't buy laminate!
The sound is horrible!
Stopped watching to save my right eardrum.
👎👎
I don't like it. Even the new stuff feels cheap, looks cheap, and it has 24-hour water protection.yeah right
Great tips but I do demolition for a restoration company
There's nothing water can't get into and destroy it
Absolutely true. I believe he said it was resistant to spills, not waterproof.
I sell products to like four or five different restoration companies, and help their clients make selections.
They will come in and ask for vinyl because they need something waterproof, and I will ask them what they had in before.
"Ma'am, that tile you had before was 'waterproof'... they still had to tear it out to get to the subfloor."
I tell them waterproof is a loaded term, and what you need is something that is functionally waterproof. Which means good for "living on." Stuff like spills, tracked water, etc.
The aquaguard laminate from Floor and Decor is way more substantial and looks much better than any of their vinyl floors.
It's almost like having second subfloor.
Cost is a little less also.
Its a good floor. Though I am having a hard time seeing who makes it for them.
Floor and Decor is basically the costco of the flooring world. Its great for DIYers.
72H water resistant laminate is good, was thinking about LVT in the kitchen but honed Dijon limestone tiles cost the same...
Cheap junk, aren't you the guy who said don't buy junk when your doing work yourself because you save in labor cost.
House we just bought has half of first floor old narrow red oak solid. Other half has pergo outlast Java. Wich one should I make dominate? Seems like the old red oak scratches real easy if refinished on site
So the top is waterproof yes but once that water infiltrates into the seams that's not waterproof is it? especially areas that have been cut. So, unless you seal those cuts up, it's going to suck up the water and it will begin to bulge. same thing if you ever get a scratch on the laminate It will allow for that pressed sawdust inside to take a drink... What do you think?
24 hours of being water proof is not enough. LVP flooring gets installed in rentals. Some tenants don’t clean up spills at all so LVP will still remain king.
Great video. Do you have a brand recommendation for laminate ?
Mohawk Revwood.
Its my go-to for Laminate. Their plus and premier (which is gorgeous), are functionally waterproof, you can steam mop them and if installed right can do anything that an LVP can do... while offering superior scratch and wear protection.
Your shorts have very bad audio compared to the rest. Just letting you know ;)
I'm not lining all my floors throughout my house with plastic. I can't stand that cheesy crap.
I have quality waterproof laminate with hydroseal even for bathrooms and it is amazing
On a quality laminate could you wax the joints in the wet areas. Get them sealed.. entrance ways.. once you transistion to dry your gold.
Top-down water resistance is only good in a small portion of the country. In places where you have flooding, it is still useless.
If you have flooding, its all useless.
They will tear the water proof flooring out to get to your subfloor to repair or remediate.
Flooding isn't a warranty issue, its an insurance one.
Clickety clack click clack clunk clik clac..
No thanks. Im about to instal some beautiful 3/4 pine on my build.
It is all garbage just pay the real price and buy real 3/4 hardwood and stop wasting money on cheap flooring that doesn’t hold together or last
Does it still sound like you're walking on hard plastic? And the old laminate floors were like a death zone for toddlers, elderly people and pets-too slippery!
Until my suppliers give me a realistic price, I'll keep pushing LVP.
I'm loving the lvp I just had installed, seems alot more water proof than any laminate
Too bad laminate floors feel absolutely horrible under foot. Nothing like filling your house full of objects and surfaces designed to look like one material but are made of another….
What do you think of Lifeproof stone core hardwood engineered flooring by Home Depot
Why would use laminate if you can use vinyl. Vinyl is better for durability, water, and noise.
I have laminate and it sounds fake. Like you are walking on cardboard. It is nothing like real hardwood.
My right ear enjoyed this video.
Looks like garbage. Basically a photograph of wood-grain on your floor.
You don’t kidding. LVP is flimsy and weak and the t+g do break easily
Just stop trying to imitate wood. Nobody is being fooled. Use a different pattern.
Yup. Just went house shopping and EVERY SINGLE HOUSE that got some sort of remodel had that exact same flooring in it
Laminate edges absorb water when faucets - drains - sinks - toilets - clothes washers - water heaters leak. It's only a matter of time when it happens. The edges swells and becomes unsightly. A 24 hour protection against spills is unacceptable for a floor which should always be durable above all features.
If you have a leak like that, eventually you will lose all your floor.
A huge problem with the drop in LVP popularity is due to its long period of off gassing and the chemicals used during production. A lot of homeowners are researching vinyl flooring and are choosing healthier more sustainable options for their homes.
I got my LVP from the orange box place and it hasn't had any issues with off-gassing
Depends on the LVP.
Most SPC core materials have no PVC in them so they don't really outgas. WPC vinyls do however, but those are not as popular as they were.
Laminates on the other hand, will outgas more.
Which is why you have the two rating systems. Floor Score safe, which tests like 28 different chemicals that make people sick, and is a government rating system.
Then Greenguard, which is more of a independent testing system, that tests for more.
Greenguard is technically a higher rating, and is usually only found with SPC cored LVPs.
😂 ok
The sound on your videos only comes through the right speaker, not the left one and it sounds a bit muffled.
Wonder what brand is good and recommended in Montreal area...
I just installed 12mm lam and the 60 pound dogs cant scratch it so much more durable then real wood or vinyl
We used the 12mm also. It's throughout our basement and second floor. It doesn't dent, ding or scratch. It looks good and is easy to clean and was easy to install with a block and mallet. I personally have no complaints.
Is there a brand you can recommend?
Just buy good laminate. Put my pergo laminate in a bucket of water for a month and nothing happened to it
24 hours water proof I bet a lot of people will not catch it within those time so to destroying and replacing that's when you are wrong. Laminate need to do better than that to win
My parents have had laminate for about 20 years and it's only now just showing the wear. It was on clearance at Value City way back when. Laminate is good, just take decent care of it. Hardwood will last much longer, but we don't all have that budget.
Laminate sucks there is no appeal to laminate floor. Can handle the heat in the house and the call separates all the time with the matters to have a new Locking System there will still separate because you have to leave the space sticking that be tight because each other
white wood laminate white wood laminate white wood laminate
Laminate is trash vinyl or hardwood are your best options at least you can wash it for without damaging it
Hey I'll take either if it's the right price, a jigsaw with a good blade helps the dust on laminate if you cut it over plastic not dust free but not nearly as dusty as circular saw and blades are cheaper if that's a concern
Can you give an example of these more robust laminate options?
What are you saving materials you pay way more in labor not worth it LVP for the win