Andy Reid: We’re ‘very aware’ of Patrick Mahomes’ legacy | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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KC fans, cherish this time you have in watching your QB play. I grew up in Chicago and was there during the Jordan years, it was awesome.
I live in the KC area and grew up on the Bulls because it was the only NBA we got locally on a regular basis. That said, I remind my friends and fellow Chiefs fans all the time about how lucky we are currently. It was lame watching the Patriots dominate for so long and recently we’ve kind of realized how we are the Patriots now and how much hate the Chiefs get now compared to 2019/2020 when everyone was loving us.
Where were you when they went with Trubisky? They'll never live that one down but we're thankful as Chiefs fans
Definitely. Grew up during the Huard and Cassel days. Definitely feels like a dream being this good.
The irony is you could have been there currently in the Patrick Mahomes years.
Every minute i do live from KC
I'm sure there was people who were sick and tired of the Chicago Bulls in the 90' s , but they advanced .
Yup...I was one of them....Even when the Bulls would be down, you knew they were winning the game, the series....Even when Michael would have a sub-par game, you knew he was hitting the game winner, or taking over the 4th quarter....Mahomes has that same feel....Different game, same vibe....
You know Mahomes has that "Jordan gene" because he sticks his tongue out. Only the greats do that.
@@williamd1891🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
hehe yea.. there are always haters... go KC! Kansas City baby!
@@khayjake I figured you were haha
In my crying T.O. voice: thats MY quarterback!
😭😭😭😭
That's OUR quarterback!
That’s my teammate
He is the greatest quarterback I have ever seen. He can do it all. Plus he is very smart. Unlike some other quarterbacks. He sure has always been a great guy.
hes the most skilled and the smartest qb in the league
Allen has more Talent and does more than Pat, but Mahomes and Reid are pretty hard to beat.
Enough with the bs it's getting old
@@STEALTTH7
He got to pass Tom Brady first ☠️☠️☠️☠️👍👍😎
Right. The only fact that makes this even a discussion is the fact that he has only been the starter for 6 years. No QB in history has appeared in 6 straight AFC CGs in his first 6 years as a starter.
I promise you anyone paying attention to the big 12 in 2014-2016 knew this kid was something else. Guy was on a 5-7 team that scored like 50 points in every game and lost most of them due to Kliff Kingsbury's disinterest in fielding a real defense. He was throwing absolute lasers to nobody receivers and just shredding everyone.
Exactly
I know there are people that are sick of seeing Mahomes in the SB, and that is one of the things that motivates him to keep showing up.
As a fan of the game, i feel lucky to be alive in a time when we got to see Brady shock the world, and then before he even retired, Mahomes comes on the scene and does it again in his own unique way...even if he doesnt catch Brady at 7 he has already cemented himself in nfl history.
I’m sick of seeing Mahomes beg for penalties.
@@kenproctor7816if only he could be like Josh Allen and not flopping
Patrick is very likable by everybody. Look how many people tuned in to see that game!!
Except during pregame warm up,
When he’s throwing the kickers gear around😂
Neither team is in a major market either.
Heck I'm like let them hate I don't care. I've been a Chiefs fan for over 50 years. I seen the 1st SB we one as a 9 year old boy then it was 50 years before we got back. I had the red and gold on all those years we sucked till Marty came in but just couldn't get us pass the spoiler team. love Marty and what he did but this is amazing fans and soak it up, this never happens!! We got some great QB and teams to watch if you love the game called football.
That's me too!
so you remember everyone jumping off-sides from the beer vendor?
They won when I was born, and again when I was 50.
So let us enjoy this dynasty like we deserve to! ❤
I guess the saying js true, A team can win enough to be the villain 😅 KC was the fan boy favorite when Mahomes was throwing 50 TDs and loved by everyone, now they have won so much that they became the bad boys.
After all of the One and done in the playoffs, I enjoy being the Villain of the NFL. 😂👍
Chiefs fan here. Great time as a fan.
Shawn Peyton said that he was “ the best QB coming out of college he’d ever seen.” He would’ve been a Saint or a Bill if KC hadn’t drafted him at 10 in 2017. There was 31 teams that all slept on him and not many evaluators thought 💭 his skill set would translate to the next level except Brett Veach who did his homework on him.
Veach is good but there was one particular scout whose name escapes me that kept pushing Mahomes. The negatives were that he was a gunslinger, wild, and not repeatable technique. All positives once he became a starter.
@@johnkessler9878 He was also not very wise throwing the ball 🏈 in college going for the big play instead of taking the check down and moving on with the game.
@@johnkessler9878 Andy said that Veach talked about Mahomes every day.
@@johnkessler9878that scout WAS Veach! John Dorsey was the GM when they drafted Mahomes, then Veach got promoted to GM when Dorsey was fired the next offseason.
Mahomes has Andy Reid. Remember the Chiefs had been to the post season with Alex Smith but couldn't get over the hump. He got him over the hump.
It’s amazing how quickly people forget last year. Remember the Chiefs were going to finish last in the AFC West. It was the Chiefs aren’t gonna make it past the first round. Then it was everybody picking Philadelphia to win the Super Bowl. trust me Patrick had doubters way before this year
Yeah, because the Chiefs couldn't win without Tyreek.
Thank You for actually speaking the Truth and accepting there is something WAY special about Pat! This is the only reason I’m back watching football after two decades! He has an INCREDIBLE mindset and this is Why- everything is a aligning up for him. He has all attributes of being a genuinely GOOD & KIND human being.
Poor raider’s fans have to watch SB58 when it’s the 49ers and Chiefs playing in their house
KC is about to get a post season win in Allegiant Stadium before the Raiders do!
@@musicisfree91let’s not celebrate until it’s over
They gotta watch a division rival play a playoff game in their stadium before the Raiders do…
Crazy. & last year Cardinals had to watch KC in their house too lol.. poor cardinals. Wait didn’t the raiders beat KC in KC on Christmas Day? Yeahhh Doesn’t matter because no one cares
Arrowhead west
Pacheco success will have a lot to do with a Super Bowl. He has been good, Mahomes is the key, but a good running game helps the defense and helps in the red zone so much
the o line and pacheco are gonna run all over the 49ers they cant stop the run
The bar is now 7. Its not there to be ignored because you're so talented. It's there to be broken because you're so talented. Good luck Patrick Mahomes !
The bar is not 7. That's not how it works in team sports. 7 is an absurd number. Is it possible, yea, obviously it's been done so it could theoretically be done again, but it's unlikely regardless of how good a single player is. 7 would give it to mahomes without argument, but it's not needed. At least in my opinion. For Mahomes to usurp Brady as the GOAT, he needs either A, at least 5 rings and another 2 mvps. Or B, at least 4 rings with either a 3peat or the illusive perfect season.
I have been waiting for someone to bring up the WR situation in Kansas City. The fact that the WR room has so much room for growth after this season is what I think should be the scariest thing for the rest of the league.
Chasing Bradshaw at 4 isn't the same as chasing Montana at 4. It's like comparing Jordan to Robert Horry. They aren't equal parts even though Horry has more rings. I think the same will be with Brady and Mahomes. Brady may have 7 and be second all time in many stats but if Mahomes gets to 5 and is light years ahead of Brady (which he is on pace for) in all major stat categories, I don't think there is a discussion. Sure, Mahomes needs to longevity and if the NFL keeps protecting QBs the same way as in the last 10 years, Mahomes can play until he is 40-42. 14 more years of Mahomes? Yikes.
The. "Golden. Age" of. Chief's. Football!
My opinion With 5 rings and all the records he’ll still be considered the goat..jmo.
Its a team sport. He's blessed to be paired up with a great coach and franchise that will build around his talents and help him grow. Quite a bit of players get their success if they land a good spot to help them be successful.
Mahomes has improved so much this year with a weaker team around him, just like Brady and Peyton did in their careers. Josh Allen was unbelievable in the play-off game but Mahomes was clinical in taking the Bills apart. I can't wait to see what comes next from this truly great QB.
I like how Florio says ‘we’ when referring to the Chiefs but has done nothing but talk crap about them in the past! Now that the Chiefs have proved him wrong in every way possible, now all of a sudden it’s ‘we’?!
Haters only hate on greatness, I understand that.
Look at SuperBowl stats..he is ok
I'm old enough to remember Steve Fuller, Bill Kenney, Todd Blackledge, Steve DeBerg, Dave Krieg, an old Joe Montana, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac (we wanted Rich Gannon to stay), Trent Green (Trent was pretty good), Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Tyler Palko, Brady Quinn, Matt Cassel , Kyle Orton, Alex Smith (I still like Alex) all starting QB's for KC before Patrick Mahomes. I am savoring every minute of the golden age of Chiefs football.
I remember the agony of watching Rich Gannon’s success w/the Raiders.
Admit it!! At least we are the FUN DYNASTY!! We bring celebs, swift and swagger...
AND we’re not cheaters!
Getting tired of seeing so much attention on swift, but love seeing Andy winning so much after being shitted on in Philly for so long. Legend Coach, freak QB definitely gonna be hard to beat the next 8-12 years.
Well..they added it all up... swift was on camera for 32secs against baltimore....can we all grow up.. no prob with cutaways to owners, other celebs...im over defending it...if it bothers you...thats ur problem. Brought in 331 mil to nfl n chiefs... she aint going anywhere....🎉
@@chriswright6007 she gonna blast chiefs fans on the break up song thats inevitable 😂😂
@@jamesmarkham1887 while u wait for that... on to vegas...🤫
If you were a fan of the NBA when Jordan had 2 3 peats… I don’t remember being bitter seeing the Bulls in all those finals
That's back when we celebrated excellency. Now we celebrate losers and victims.
@@williamd1891 ain't that the truth
@@williamd1891 Ain't that the mtfking truth!
@@williamd1891Preach brother. I'm all about celebrating excellence that's legitimately earned
Hope Mahomes gets at least 2-3 more SB rings... Even if he doesn't top Brady to me he plays better and it's more fun to watch than Brady..
It's obvious he was raised right 💯💯💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Michael Jordan didn’t have to win 11 championships before you knew you were watching the best ever. At 28 years old he has already claimed the title as GOAT. He’s going to get 10-15 more years to add to his resume to make it inarguable
Thank you
Exactly! Why is the bar 7 Super Bowl wins?!
Because more than half the people commenting are illogical and biased. @brettm4713
Well that’s because bill Russel played in the 1960’s when their was no player movement and only 8 teams. Brady and Mahomes played during the same time. And he has 2 losses two him in a super bowl and afc championship game.
Got to get 8. Otherwise he will never undoubtedly be the GOAT.
Tom Brady won his 4th Super Bowl at 37. That gives Mahomes 9 years to catch up.
If they win a ring after THIS year....👀
@masterp2269 no whether Mahomes needs 1 or 2, he still has 9 years to catch Brady at 4.
He better hurry up. Tom had 3 super bowl titles by the end of his 5th season.
@SuperPsychoterror 😂 he also had 3 SB wins in 6 seasons & in 7 season & in 8,9,10 seasons 😂 Brady had 3 SB wins in 13 seasons also
Mahomes is doing it man. It's crazy to see these guys go back to back. Can't wait to see how the win this one.
The Chicago Bulls were pretty much universally loved by the time the second 3-peat came around. Even the opposing team's fans came out to see MJ and the crew
4.5 pt underdog has come full cirlce and PM legacy 2.0 has begun.
The Chiefs were literally picked to miss the playoffs by basically everyone but Nick Wright last year. They are hardly ever favored in the media or the betting lines in big games. Even the narrative around the Baltimore game is how Baltimore beat themselves instead of how Andy and Spags forced Lamar and the Ravens to play a game they couldn't play. They didn't forget how to run the ball, they were terrified of the game getting away from them and felt like they had to go downfield in a hurry in case Mahomes put up 30+ on them while holding the ball for 9 minutes a drive.
Don’t give Sean Payton credit for mahomes. Dude claims he wanted him 3 years later to get publicity. Media give Sean Payton way too much credit.
he’s the one who scouted him lol
@@jameshoops10 Everyone "scouted" him but Payton passed on him
@@markb3786 lol chiefs traded up
@@markb3786 He didn’t pass on him, the chiefs traded up and took him before the saints could get him. You’re literally spewing garbage. Sean Payton is a QB genius, stop the unnecessary hate.
If Payton thought that much of Mahomes he would have traded up before KC did.
Mahomes is chasing Brady. Everyone else is chasing Mahomes. ⚜
He’s not even having to run that fast.
Well said‼️
A fellow Chiefs & Saints fan? On this corner of the internet?
Na everyone else chasing their 1st Super Bowl 😂
I think one of the advantages for Patrick is he happens to be in an organization where the owner has shown/proven he enjoys winning. He wants to continue that legacy for his organization and for that to happen he has to build around Pat for years and years to come. I mean, Clark's dad is a legacy in his own right for creating the AFL, eventually merging to bring about what we know today as the AFC/NFC. What Lamar did with the team has allowed Clark to build upon it and create the status of what it is today. Lamar wanted to fill the stadium. Clark wants to do that AND be a winner at the same time.
Thank you Chris. Pat had to be great and then the team has became great around him. Lets get the win boys.
Your watching something special like Andy Reid said .... he's a winner period.... amazing how he manages a game....
You guys should interview Sam Mellinger, formerly of KC Star. He wrote an article fall 2017, Mahomes rookie year backing up Alex Smith. Mellinger said veteran defenders called Mahomes a space alien. Cause he was doing stuff making throws they had never seen before.
Back to back to back jack.
The credit for the Chiefs getting Mahomes goes to the GM and scouting team who knew what they had found in Lubbock and traded up to get him. Brilliant work guys!
As a Chief’s van, I love Mahomes and hopes he surpasses Brady. However, I hated Tom and the Patriots. They were constantly winning and my teams couldn’t beat them. So yes, I was jealous and tired of them.
Also Patriots were cheaters.
I hated them not because I was jealous of their success but because in large part their success was illegitimate on account of their various cheating and other scandals
I agree, why not just enjoy watching someone who is good at what they do! ❤
best B day gift i ever got was us trading up for him! was also sweet for my 40th bday we had the draft in KC after winning the super bowl!
That's great! My birthday is usually pretty close to the Super Bowl so I've been watching the Chiefs play as my birthday present
You can't just assume Pat would have been Pat if it wasn't for Andy . He needed the right coach in the right situation. How many coaches would have tried to drill the "Pat" out of him because THEY weren't good enough to nurture his special talent. .
I think Pat would have been a great player anywhere, but not acknowledging Andy Reid is a huge part of it is important. I still see Allen as a more talented QB, but he plays for Sean McDermott who is just not the caliber coach that Andy Reid is. 13 Seconds is solely on the coaching in that game and that team has blown so many games defensively in the crunch. I think if you put Josh Allen on the Chiefs, he has just as many championships if not more. Buffalo would still have zero.
True! And I believe the Universe had a hand in putting them together
Pat made Andy
🎉Mahomes a legend aready
Mahomes is a badass like we've never seen before.
Josh Allen is more talented. Mahomes and the Chiefs are more successful. In the end, winning is what matters...
Chiefs fan for life, but let’s be careful not to neglect the situation of a great coach and so-so team Mahomes came into, especially having Kelce there. He is super unique, but he did walk into a great organization.
You’re correct about Patrick! All around good guy. Go Chiefs 🏈🔥
Mahomes is so good Simms picked against him twice in the playoffs.
Simms, man, you were supposed to be the chosen one...
He is a magician; quote from Evans, in superbowl against him .... when he plays on the field it is in another mode ..... in the zone ....
Storybook ending for a deserving franchise!
The chiefs did a great job of consistently playing at 80 was the key to their success they understand that there are times when you must turn it up to 90 or 100.but they never go below 80 as a life long chiefs fan it great to watch
Finally a great black qb. God bless you Mahomes
Thats crazy that the Chiefs hadn't been as much as a 4.5 pt underdog since Sept of 2018.
NBC should televise CFL May through August 10 . SundayNightFootball
Well................, and I remember this vividly . People grew tired of seeing the Buffalo Bills go to four straight Superbowls , but they advanced fair and square . Buffalo again !? It's just fans of the sport who root against the Chiefs and the Bills at that time . That's all .
no its the fact that social media as the worst thing thats happened to sport. Now any time their team loses everyone puts on thier tinfoil hats and cries rigged. Every single game every comment is people crying about rigged games.
Thanks for changing the rules, so don't be jealous or hate hater fans it is what it is the New NFL Draft kings 💵💵💵🏈
If Mahomes had won the super bowl against Brady, it would be 6 bowls to 3, and maybe 4 after this year. That's how good Mahomes is...
I mean the crazy thing is mahommes was just an unfair penalty away from winning NFC championship his first season to beat Brady. Let's say he wins and get 4 this year that means he'll have 4 to bradys 6 then. Since the Tampa Bay one was such a beating, there was no what if there.
I think Reid, Kelce, and Jones have some input into the success of the Chiefs. Mahomes is going to be the GOAT based on his overall athletic ability.
He is better than Brady. Won 7 in a 20 year playing. Patrick is been in 5 super bowls in a 6 year playing. Do the math and stop been so hateful.
Different eras kid
Lol been in isn't winning
Patrick Mahomes' legacy is having one amazing scheme from Andy Reid and his coordinators.
In the toughest times, he's been given many great throws within 5 yards to live on and be very successful with.
🤣🤣🤣 backhanded insult to Mahomes. Reid was 1-4 in the playoffs with the Chiefs before Mahomes. Mahomes is 15-3.
As long as Andy Reid is around, Mahomes has a shot to match or exceed Brady's 7. Hopefully Reid coaches for (at least) another decade.
There is a long way to go but, if some how he three peats... hes the GOAT.... nobody has gone back to back to back
Please do a PFT PM (now that we are at season end) after about 4 whiskeys and some budda for Chris. As a loyal listener, I believe it is about time
Most Chiefs fan were begging for DHop to start the season. Jones kinda derailed that process. we knew this team would have been the number 1 seed and would have rolled to another Superbowl. I guess we didn't need him after all.
Let's change the name of the AFC Championship game to the Mahomes Invitational.
Ppl didn’t believe in them last year either or do we forget? They lost hill and everyone said they wouldn’t be the same
if not for dee ford it would be 5
if not for a garbage defense and lucky helmet catch it would be 9. you can what if your way to anything
@@KillingWithaSmile613 pre-snap penalty and an amazing catch are two completely opposite things
@@KillingWithaSmile613Those aren’t the same things, my guy.. lining up 8 inches offsides, a penalty that may get called 30% of the time is not the same as a superhuman feat that occurs .001% of the time & an entire crew of 11 defensive players
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 of course they're not the same thing but they're both 1 play that changed the outcome of the game entirely. i don't get the hypotheticals
If my aunt had wheels she would be a bycicle.
Imagine Mahomes play with Magatron
Twenty-nine of 32 NFL franchises have had at least one coaching change since Mahomes came into the NFL.
Brady was largely the product of luck. Down 28-3 to ATL and the Falcons choked away +1 to Brady. Not giving the ball to Lynch on the goalline +1 to Brady. The Rams forgetting their Offense in Los Angeles +1 to Brady... his 7 could EASILY be 4 or 5. Still great, but let's not pretend he won all those games, he was just the recipient of some incredibly dumb luck.
You're so right. Roll troops roll🤣🏈🏹😄👍
"He's already in goatville..." - LOL....Chris is the best. He makes Florio tolerable.
It's the same with the Alabama Crimsontide , way to go Michigan . Anybody but Alabama .
5 rings 5 mvps automatic 🐐
There are a lot of angles to this Superbowl that can be played up which are interesting but the most interesting to me is the tendency of the Chiefs to fall behind in the Superbowl . In each of the three Superbowls , the Chiefs have fell behind , in two of them they were able to rally and win . It will be interesting to see if it happens again .
Lamar had his chance and he threw a fit like a toddler.
I love Mahomes, the new/next QB GOAT. No doubt. Just remember, he's working with Travis Kelce, the new/next TE GOAT. In fact theyve already eclipsed other qb/receiver pairs like Brady and Gronk, Montana and Rice, and Saubach and Pearson.
he need to say he the baddest mf he has ever seen or coached
Brady is my man,if Patty get 5 Rings Holmes will B The G.O.A.T
The media just wants to have conversation but who cares ? Just enjoy the game on TV before it's black out.
They’ll be even scarier when they get another WR1 alongside Rashee Rice.
Brady had the advantage of rest of his entire division absolutely sucking for most of his tenure, virtually guaranteeing him a playoff spot every year. Its been somewhat that way for Mahomes so far, but not for long.
The reason the AFC West is bad is because they have to play Patrick Mahomes 6 times a year (collectively).
Exactly! Brady played in the weakest Division in Football most of his Career. Aint hard to make the playoffs when you're Guaranteed 6 wins and winning your Division every year!
AFC West has been the worst division in the NFL since Mahomes started
Nah, the NFC South and NFC North are worse.@@davis2k1234
I remember watching an Oklahoma- Texas Tech football game with friends and the announcers kept saying" Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield"... a little ways into the second quarter, I started saying "Baker MAYFIELD??!! I want that OTHER guy!! who the hell is that guy for Texas Tech??!!"Jeez!! we were laughing our butts off at how good he was... later on I read up on him and saw my Chiefs were really interested in him in the upcoming NFL draft.. I told everybody and anybody who would listen, that if the Chiefs get this guy he will set the NFL on fire..night of the draft when they traded up the announcers were saying Chiefs were going to take D Watson, but watching with friends I said NO WAY- they are taking Mahomes!next thing you know?...ha! .I've had friends and customers tell me they remember me talking him up when he was still in college- its not that I'm some soothsayer- ANYBODY that has been watching football for years could see this kid was gonna be something really special...AND... there was a photo on the Arrowhead Pride website with Patrick Mahomes, Clark Hunt, Andy Reid, Brett Veach( I dont believe John Dorsey GM was in that pic- he might have been) and it was taken when he was still at Texas Tech and the caption read " Is this The Chiefs QB of the future?" I need to go to Arrowhead Pride and see if they have that photo in their archives...I think it was taken when he was visiting KC before the draft...
You do not need 7 because the patriots were cheaters and their division was terrible the most of the time!
Putting Sean Payton in the conversation with Patrick Mahomes is a joke. That fool wouldn't know what to do with him. Mahomes is out of the box. Payton would would melt down and pull his hair out.
Roll pat roll. 🤣🏈🏹👍😄👍
who is Desean Keysor?
Just let the guy play football
Plenty of teams play B- ball until late in the season and then go on to the Super Bowl.
I can think of 2 immediately:
1. NJG with Eli Manning. Both Super Bowl winning teams were not very good until the end.
2. The Bengals under Joe Burrow. People forget just haw poor their offensive line was and how bad that defense was. I don't think they even won the AFC North that year.
3. Even the Tampa Bay Buccaneers under Brady were not very good until some time in November.
I am sure there are many other examples of teams who were roughly 8-6 and went on to the Super Bowl.
if dee ford had not been off sides that would take one from brady and then if they had beat the bucks that would take another away. mahomes could be going for # 5 to tie brady. but that didn't happen but it is fun to think about.
So Rodgers isn’t in goatville?
Nah he resides in delusionville
So, if Purdy wins a SB this year- we can all start comparing him as POSSIBLY a better QB than Mahomes - right? Oh, you say that's preposterous, he's only played 1/3 as long as Mahomes!!! Oh, you mean EXACTLY LIKE comparing Mahomes to Brady after he has only played 1/3 as long as Brady? RIGHT NICK?
The Chiefs are hovering around the Superbowl
Kelce is underrated at what he means to this team. Emotional leader by example. Gonna be tough when he’s retired.
Mahomes has a good shot at winning 7
Smh, i remember week 2 2018 bc i started deshawn watson over Mahomes 😂😂😂
Started watching NFL in 2017, started following the Jets and Sam Darnold, but then switched to a guy called Patrick Mahomes🤷🏿♂️didn't know about him just thought he was cool. Glad I made a switch to the Chiefs.