Is Andy Reid the GOAT coach? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2024
- Kansas City Chiefs HC Andy Reid has won 3 Super Bowls following his victory over the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl LVIII. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, and James Jones debate with former Eagles and Chiefs RB LeSean McCoy over whether or not Reid is the greatest coach of all time.
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Do ppl realize Brady last ring with NE the score was 13-3 😂
They have amnesia on that lol
They always seem to forgot that
And the year before he threw for 505 yards in an 8 pt loss , and
And didn’t score a Touchdown in New Englands first Super Bowl
Or the 1st 3 were because of the defense
im convinced nobody on this panel knows what they are talking about except James
What… 😂
I was convinced this a while back, James be speaking unbiased truths
Yet, your watching
Has Shady forgotten that Reid lost 4/5 NFC Championships and lost the SB. Reid is the best coach at this moment, not the greatest yet. He only started winning when he got Mahomes
Thank you
Wich Coach has win a +3 W/out a historic QB?
Ok BB only became a winner when he got Tom Brady he never even sniffed a playoff win without Brady and when he lost Brady he became a sub par coach.
Look at what Bill & Andy have both done respectively without their HOF QB & you’ll see that Andy Reid is CLEARLY the greater coach
And Bill was Trash with the Brown and didn’t win until Brady and Brady left he turned back into a Pumpkin 🎃 Trash 🗑️
Andy needed Mahomes
Belichick needed Brady
Coach plus qb duo is needed for the dynasty
He took another team to a Super Bowl. Until Bill Belichick do it he can't compare to Reid
@@dennismagee9555wrong….that “team” went to the SB with a HOF QB
@@deciuswtasbyMcNabb is not going to the HOF and is nowhere near Brady and Mahomes.
@@8figures8 Yep. I thought McNabb would get in, but he has no accolades outside of Eagles franchise accomplishments.
Joy knows how to frame it - giving flowers without stealing flowers from anyone else.
fr Joy and James the only people not living in delusion
And she said Purdy would have to play an A game period...she was the only one that really made sense. Playing pretty good wasn't going to beat Mahomes...it had to be awesome. Purdy was good, and he had to be awesome...and he did not reach that. Maybe next year, the kid is so young.
Joy held it down!
Joy held it down!
Joe Gibbs the GOAT coach. Winning 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QB's and 3 different RB's when the running game was key.
And only 1 was a HOF- John Riggins!
So many ppl forget about Joe Gibbs. Goes to show how bad Washington has been these past several yrs. Lol
And Peyton Manning took four different head coaches to the Super Bowl. Should he be considered the GOAT QB? I think so.
Plus first black QB to win one
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Yep. And Acho gets overdramatic with these question. And shady is over emotional, Joy is over the top with her self importance.
🙄
@@shinani1why cant shady be emotional about a sport he participated in? yall weird bruh
joe gibbs is the greatest coach of all time with 3 different quarterbacks career backups
He's the best coach right now
Or do he have the best QB
Shady is completely right. Niners should’ve been up majorly in the first half and continued to put on pressure in the second half. Edit: James is correct. Shanny was choking. If he called the right plays to get people open, and getting CMC in the mix early, Purdy would’ve had an historic game.
So if CMC an MVPcandidate got more of the ball pretty boy Purdy would have a historic game ? If Purdy is all you whiner fans say he is ... he should be able to win on his own arm.
Niners had this game period they should have won
@@charlesthompson430They had the momentum in the first half and only led 10-3 that’s not enough they needed a 17-3 lead
Is definitely on the coach he should have ran the ball and used more movement at the line in the 3rd. You can't go three and out three times in the third period against the Chiefs and expect to win so that's on the couch.
As a kc fan you're correct they lost bcz they let kc hang around it's on them plus that 3rd and 4th that they didn't convert made them lose bcz if they convert there's no overtime haha
Are we forgetting the way Belichick coached defense? He shut down the greatest show on turf, there are two sides of the ball now, Reid just happens to be offense and Bill is defense
and bill has got the better of him when they match up
Recency bias is a helluva drug
Andy Reid is the best coach in the league right now, but of all time it’s Bill Belichick because of what he was able to do with a 6th round pick in Tom Brady
Chuck Noll, Vine Lombardi, Tom Landry, Paul Brown, Bill Walsh, Jimmy Jonson, Joe Gibbs, Bill Belichick, Don Shula 😂 come on man Reid Don’t have as many Championships as Belichick
Those coaches are all better than Reid! I'd take them all no questions asked before I'd take Reid lol
Marv Levy?
So Bill being as good as Staley the rest of his career is something we just got to ignore 11 seasons no Big Bro TOM 8 LOSING SEASON 1 PLAYOFF WIN. He cant even look Andy Reid in the eye. All of Bills peers know the truth too Bill without tom is TERRIBLE not even mid.
Everyone on that list has a winning record without Brady, save one. Reid is still a better coach than Coatrider, just as Marino is still a better QB than Dilfer.
@@ahmedegal6808And Tom without Bill only has 1 Super Bowl win
This is why Shady is dumb. Apparently, the genius logic he uses against Belichick not being the goat doesn’t also apply to Andy Reid. He’s a 🤡
Can't win without a great QB consistently...Joe Gibbs says hello!
"The only thing Andy Reid is going to lose is weight"
-Gary Turbo February 9, 2024
He didn't win with Alex Smith. He didn't win with Donovan McNabb. Great QB's make great coaches.
Call him what you want he’s a champion
And that dont mean nothing what your saying.
Does the hunt family own the chiefs?
Is Andy Reid the coach of the chiefs?
Did the chiefs draft Patrick mahomes?
If you answer is yes then that goes on His résume
If he was the goat of coaching he would've won with McNabb
fair enough he still top 3 probably
Oh, that’s just not true because the time he lost was to a better quarterback
If Bill Belichick is the Goat Coach than how come he has a losing record without Tom Brady as his quarterback
are you saying Brad Johnson was better then McNabb doubtful@@DuckFanDane
@@jerryneil8558 lmao Brad Johnson was terrible
Shout out to big red (andy reid) for leaving shady off the roster for the sb; tht was real coaching! Shady ddnt play a snap and the chiefs won; great coaching decision. Joy is finally making her own takes and not following shady.
He did Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney the same way
how was that real coaching? Shady was a baller lmao, Andy was just hating lmao just like yall bums do
Arm chair QBs are so SMART
The best thing Shady said is near the end of the segment when he asked Acho where in the game did CMC get the ball. Saying he got 30 touches sounds good, but this was situational football. The Niners only going to CMC once in their first 3 drives of the second half is confusing.
Shady- “I’ve been there before”
Meanwhile he got the same stats as me in the SB and I haven’t played football since 8th grade.
When JJ mentioned the 3rd Q when they went 3 n out 3 straight times in the 3rd .. Purdy threw for -1 yards in that stretch
Yes Joy…He’s like an artist 🧑🎨 frfr!!! CHIEEEEFS!!!!
Acho always sound like he performing slam poetry.. nobody got the ego of this cat..
NOBODY
Stop disrespecting Joe Gibbs
Joe Gibbs? "Name me a few players from those championship teams off the top of your head" - Shady
I wish you asked me that Its such a easy question to answer.
What was the name of the wr côté they have themselves??
This is about to become the Jordan wasnt Jordan until he got Pippen debate.
Jordan was always Jordan since his days in NC. But he did need Pippen and that’s a fact.
And they both needed Phil Jackson as a coach.
Shady wishes Andy would have signed him to the practice squad so he could get another ring and act like he was a contributing factor in winning the SB😂😂
Shady just be talking 😂
Agreed
lmao it gets me evrytime lmao dont give him the mic when it first starts lol
First of all, shout out to all four of you on this cast. As usual, everyone's take on this game and others are pretty much on spot. I was watching the game. It was crazy in the beginning and crazy. At the end it was defensive on both sides. Then it got real stupid 49ers made adjustment at halftime or home use this legs got Kelsey the ball. The defensive side kept pressure on Brock on the 49ers side like James said needed to get the ball to their receiver all pro receiver if I'm not mistaken. Keep up the good work. Have a good new year. I can't wait to hear from you guys again. Miss Joy Taylor always looking fine. Great content. Great football analogy. I hope you all get our award for this show peace I'm out of here.
I don’t think the 49ers were necessarily more talented they just came out more hyped up and flying around. But what the Chiefs understand is it’s not how you start but how you finish and the game is 4 long quarters so you have to pace yourself and not be over amped early and the. Find yourself exhausted physically and emotionally later in the game.
Crazy u say that because when 9ers was coming out I said to myself they over amped and when kc came out u could see the focus even tho they didn't start well till the 2nd half
The reason shady doesnt like belichik is because hady is 2-8 vs belichik andshady best game was 15 carries for 93 yards in a 23-3 lost and his other games are 6 carroes for 9 yards, and 12 carries for 13 yards and only 1 td in all of his 10 games and for him to say brady nver got help from belichik is just a terrible take like bill has come up with some masterful game plans might not go crazy on offense but defensively he has done some great things like shady is just so bad
Only coach in NFL history to have the franchises most wins with 2 franchises and unlike Belichick who absolutely sucks without Tom Brady, Reid had 18 years without Mahomes and never really had truly great QBs and had a HoF coaching career without Mahomes. Reid is beyond the shadow of a doubt the definition of Greatest of All Time
So what was Andy Reid doing before Patrick Mahomes?
Shanahan not making sure his players know the new rules is the same issue that goes back to ATL - Pats … small details that you glossed over led to bad decisions that led to your downfall
I get why these questions are asked but I hate them. I'm just thrilled to see Brady and Mahomes (Reid/Belichick) play, it's rare to get to see generational talent play
1. Gibbs (His resume is uniquely special. 3 SB wins with 3 diff non hall of fame qbs is INSANITY)
2. Belichick
3. Noll
4. Walsh
5. Reid
6. Shula
In time, Belichick will be seen as the Brady coatrider that he was. His career record before and after Brady are both around .450 for a reason.
@@MikeHarvey-ol7xr u need a good qb to win in the playoffs and a great one to win chips. That shouldn't b a news flash.
in case of mahomes/reid, I have it 90/10. Without mcnabb and mahomes, reid is 1-5 in playoffs and that win was against hoyer.
Brady/belichick, I have it 75/25. Belichick developed brady from a game manager to a reg season mvp. He held the greatest show on turf to 17 in their first SB win. Then he shut down the greatest show on turf 2.0 to 3 pts in their last SB win together.
Gibbs winning 3 chips with 3 different non hall of fame qbs is INSANITY. Mayb he should b 1 actually
@CarSportsTalk I'd not argue against Gibbs being #1, I have tremendous respect for his accomplishments. I joke that Brady deserves 75% of the credit because Belichick's winning percentage rises 75% with him. Seems we might be more in agreement than first thought. My admitted saltiness with Belichick is that I believe his reputation has outgrown his talent and it's treated as common knowledge that he is better than peers such as Gibbs when I dare to believe he is not. Thank you for a fair reply.
Those were not play calling. Reid already said that he called the plays and Mahomes told him what he was going to do.
Great discussion.
Bill is a defensive genius where Andy is a offensive genius 🤔
When shady was talking I put the volume all the way down!!!
He doesn't say anything worth listening to. He just fangirls over his faves.
most underrated sports show, Joy is one of the best man or female out doing this period, so well thought out and prepared! shady is the swag, James is the calm one who always speaks facts, and Acho is great at being able to debate any side any time
Go back and really watch the game and notice how 9ers run game was on point 1st half to get the lead going into the 2nd half. why not continue to run the ball coming out for the 3rd Q ? Two quick 3& outs all plays were pass plays not a single run called. just to let Pat come back in OT. it was a good script for Pat
Not only is it a stupid question, but the fact that it got two yes’ is even worse.
Seeing the 2 ppl we got the yes from, I’m not surprised 😂😂
Picture Andy as the offense coordinator and Bill as the defense for any average football team.
20 years no Super Bowl. Then, gets a cheat code and does.
Got a slightly better Alex Smith*
@@Beamskii slightly better Alex Smith can throw for 50TD and 5000yds?
@@Beamskiislightly better Alex smith is insane
Well said
Yet again
He’s coaching arguably the best quarterback of all times, he did nothing with Alex Smith
Andy and Mahomes both bring out the best in each other!
At least Reid has a winning record without his best QB, unlike Belichick.
Great show and don’t ever sell out. Have fun, love each other and know God controls the outcome. See y’all next season!
In the words of Shannon Sharpe, “Y’all keep on trying to build Brock Purdy up because y’all wanted to think he was that guy”
Respect Andy Ried he is definitely a great coach, but in my opinion the best coach is Bill Parcells. Ried is taking advantage of this new era of football.
Thank you Chiefs for beating the 49ers! Way to go! Back 2 Back Super Bowl Champions!
I like your point of view Joy👍🏽
Andy Reid is loved by those who watch him from the beginning of his career and those who are just finding out who he is. He maybe have more love than Vince Lombardi himself!!
They give it to Reid but not Bill. They both had the toss up for greatest QB. I don't get it
Because Bill never won without Tom. Andy did without Mahomes.
@@8figures8 bill got rings before the pats and playoffs too....
@@8figures8explain what he won without mahomes 🤦🏿♂️
I am confused what did Andy win without Mahomes, he has not won a superbowl as an HC without Mahomes Plus we gonna forget that b4 mahomes got to Kansas city, he had Alex smith no. 1 overall pick and Kelce, and no superbowls. In Philly no superbowls, so what exactly did he win without Mahomes. The same argument people want to discredit Bill applies to Andy, as neither have won superbowls as HC without Tom or Patrick...sooo....plus its funny how people like to act like Bill did not build a defence that won the giants 2 superbowls coaching the great LT....hnmm I guess however you want to slice it Bill can put 8 rings on his fingers..I wish people would stop moving the goal post just because one coach is more likeable. They are both great coaches, but the disrespect on Bill is getting silly now. I watched Tom since he got drafted, and the first 3 superbowls is not like Mahomes first 3, Tom was more a part of it, with the defence and kicker a driving force of it. He was not Mahomes like, which means I believe Tom when he says Bill helped him become what he became, and vice versa. Why must it be one or the other, in one of the most ultimate team sports
@@so8263 it’s a stupid argument plus Andy is 0-3 vs bill in championship games this isn’t close at all 😂😂😂😂
The man called the same play that they beat the eagles with genius. 👏 masterclass thank u shady for mentioning something everyone else missed.
Bill Belichick as a defensive coach with Brady won 6 SB. Goat
James Jones was spot on....Joy's in the room take was clutch. LeSean was hyperbolic about KC. Nick Wright style.
Ask Lawrence Taylor what BB has won without Brady.
Ask BB defense what Tom Brady has won without BB
Bill shut down every teams best player on defense he wasn’t a offensive of coach you comparing the wrong stuff shady stop being biased all the time that’s lame
If he was coaching 49ers they win he’s taking kelce out of the game always struggles against belichick defenses
Still can’t 4 get Shady dissing Bill Walsh & Joe Gibbs
I agree, He is on the raise to becoming the great but as of right now he's up there.
Crazy how Vince Lombardi has been forgotten
Joy is spot on...well, said & on ☝🏾❤ Andy Reid! 🏆🏉 Great Coach and He's definitely in the room; of All-time Best in the business & he's not done.
@8:42 lmfaooo
I liked how acho proved their point 😂
Andy was getting outcoached until the 2nd half
The belichick slander is ridiculous this is a prime example of prisoners of the moment
2 of them played under him they’re biased especially shady
Acho is so confused man, Andy out coached him because the niners have a more talented team with all those Allpros and went toe to toe with this chiefs team. imagine when the chiefs get better.
Credit to Reid, but one offensive mastermind had Mahomes and one offensive mastermind had the last pick in the draft. The QB is a multiplier that makes everyone better. Purdy didn't make anyone better that game.
They keep trying to compare individuals It’s a team sport Everything has to work together
I don't care what anyone says this is the best show in sports S better try and get you all out of the game!!!!
Tom Landry, Don Shula, Sean McVay, Vince Lombardi.... cone on, he's not even close !
To be clear SOMEBODY on the Chiefs if GOAT - Patrick Mahomes
Andy Reid definitely out coached Kyle Shanahan
People forget where was Andy Reid forged.
He lost a Superbowl
How many has he coached in ?
This just didn't happen overnight
Follow his coaching career
What did he do in Philly
He was the head coach and VP
Let that sink in
How many Superbowl has he coached in
He is no amateur he is self made
You learn more losing than winning
And he makes adjustments
He is always probing
This combo is special
3:51 a voice of reason
IMO the best NFL HC of all time is Joe Gibbs. Dude won three Super Bowls with three different QB's.
My current list - # 1 Paul Brown. # 2 Andy Reid. # 3 Bill Belichick
Where Is Walsh??
Bilichick kept a pencil in his ear and made adjustments constantly
Think they should give those defenses more love
I have multiple screens running on my phone apps like a desktop
N Joe Gibbs is better den Andy fasho! 3SBs w 3QBs! Reid had McNabb,Vick, A Smith oh but den Pat ok
Andy Reid is one of the best coaches the Chiefs ever have based on my experience since becoming the Red Kingdom fan for more than 3 decades…
LETS GOOOOOO!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
From 1999 to 2017 Andy didn't have a Superbowl championship. From 2017 - 2024 he has 3, because of Patrick Mahomes. Patrick put Andy and Travis in the HOF.
Okay Shady, it's clear you have some kind of vendetta or angst against Bill because of conversations with Tom , but just like Bill, Andy didn't win a Superbowl as a head coach until he got an all-time great player.
TALK THAT TALK JAMES
Andy was just on another level!
Holding, false starts, players admitting post game that they were never coached on what the new NFL overtime rules were are all definitely on the coach. Coaches coach players on the rules of the game. Coaches coach players on being present in the game to avoid false starts. Coaches coach players on techniques that will avoid holding penalties or at least how to avoid getting caught.
Remember each mistake cost regardless of the sport in which you are playing.
Who can’t Andy Reid win with??? Uh, Donovan McNabb??? 🤷🏾♂️
Andy Reid is 182-120 without Mahomes. At least he can win games.
@@JediTigaya, games that aren’t SBs…
Someone has to go up there and defend bill because the disrespect is ridiculous
They don’t have to defend Belichick just go look at the top 5,8 and 10 scoring defenses that Tom Brady has had
I agree with acho
people forget bill also won a ring on the giants as DC. Shut down the #1 offense Buffalo Bills
People say Belichick without Brady but Reid hasn't won without Mahomes
Most importantly, Reid hasn’t had to cheat and deflate footballs to win games. That ought to end the discussion right there. Reid reigns supreme.
Why has no one talked about the no holding calls all game... how much money did your staff have on this game!!!
1: John Madden
1A: Andy Reid
2: Bill Belichick
3: Nick Saban
They use the word nuance on this show when they don't know how to make their point lol. It's a more nuanced conversation blah blah. Give me a break.
There's a gap between defensive coordinators too. Spags > Wilks.