I think your all comparing apples to oranges though, Legion is very much a Model based game, Not an Unit based game like citadel gametypes, I would if push came to shove compare Legion more to kill team or mordheim than any of the citadel mainstays, Even the largest point cap -1600 would be hard pressed to include over 50 models, That is legions 4 hour apocolypse level slogfest
I just got my first core set and have never painted a mini before. Of all the videos about how to paint these little suckers, yours seems the easiest. And certainly good enough for me. Thanks for this.
Absolutely love these types of episodes from Uncle Atom! He is an absolute treasure trove of modeling tips and tricks. More please!!! And kudos for “stepping out of your comfort zone,” a bit for us Uncle Atom!
After doing the apothecary white, id wash it with nuln oil, so you get bit more contrast, and youll have less to do with the black contrast too. Then the highlighting as you did
I think just a heavier application of apothecary white would improve the contrast. Nuln oil on stormtroopers seems to make them look really dirty as far as I've seen, which if that's the aesthetic you're going for by all means. At the very least, nuln oil would do well to be diluted before applying onto a stormtrooper.
@@CaffeinePanda personally i do it with oil paints, so i dont have to clean up the mess the nuln oil does :) that shine it leaves on white is cherry on top for me
@@lordhusee I'm very familiar with what a Stormtrooper looks like. I'm also familiar with what happens when you put Nuln Oil over White. It's goes dark grey. Stormtroopers are not dark grey.
Nice quick technique to paint stormtroopers, what I generally did on mine was, I sprayed them white, then used a black wash on the entire model, drybrushed them white, then fill in all the flat area's with white and refined details, painted the gun with a watered down black and then used a clear gloss coat on all the armor panels to give them that new-looking shine they have in the movie's which also does wonders on the Darth vader model!
Not yours, his. Seems like he just slapped paint on and called it done. It's like he is loosing interest. Understandably, considering, but unfortunate because I've seen him do great work.
They look great. If you’re careful you could probably get a bit of black into the “mustache “ part of their helmet too but it a little finicky. I’m guessing you will like the way contrast works on the rebels too. They take a wash well because they have a lot of cloth folds and textured and a few guys in the FFG painting forums have had good results with contrast. Great video and I love to see you posting Legion content.
Thank you for the video! I followed along best I could. By the end, my white paint was a little chunky looking and my black was a little messy. So I used a gloss clear coat, and covered the whole model with AK streaking grime. Then wiped off most of the streaking grime. IMO I got a pretty cool result. The streaking grime adds character and helps hide my messy paint job. And the gloss clear coat helps sell the effect that the armor is shiny under the grime. I really like it!
You can achieve similar results by zenithal priming. Instead of the traditional black/grey/white, I start with a 50/50 mix of white + grey, and get lighter as I go up. Follow that up with some standard highlighting etc.
I actually did something similar when I painted mine. Primed white, hit the entire model with a heavily thinned down FW Black Acryllic Ink using water, then drybrushed white, and used some less thinned down ink to go over the bodysuit and gun. Then I went with some details like colored shoulders for the squad leaders and specialists having bits in the color of the squad. I then highlighted the black on the weapons and certain parts with a gunmetal. I'd painted them off their bases because I pretty much used a rather simple option for basing by just covering the base with a piece of plastic canvas and added pipes via stir straws to the vehicles to mark facings along with some for setting each squad apart from the others. While it's rather easy to paint that type of base, it's far easier to paint the mini and the base separately there to make sure you get the entire thing.
Still learning how to get the most out of them. Was really impressed by the GW TV video of Duncan using them for Alpha Legion! Gonna get some cheap snap fits and experiment.
That’s definitely been my experience as well. They work great over zenithal priming and the settle more controllably than inks. But you can’t just blob them in and walk away.
I agree they’re definitely better with organic stuff. They’re also amazing with chain mail as well because the black sinks in. It’s changes how I paint metal items. I go to is black Templar black and drybrush lead belcher (highlight with stormhost silver if you really want to). Gives a good worn metal effect, perfect for nurgle plague knives etc
"Fell in something other than sand, you say? Sounds to me like you neglected to notify the nearby stationed detachment of Pooper Troopers, they usually deal with these incidents. Let's hear what command thinks of this, shall we? Take him away."
Tl:dr on the black Templar, it’s a great black paint, but there’s basically no contrast to it. At least that’s how mine ended up being, and I’ve used it on a few different models to test it out. I’ve used the Templar black and after having great results with some of the oranges and browns, I found it to be incredibly disappointing. As a black, it covers great, flows maybe a little too well but being patient solves that just fine. My issue was with the “contrast”, because there’s virtually none. I was painting an infinity ninja and wanted her to be mostly black, and add some other colors in just a few places. Had this behaved like say, sharia dunes or snakebite leather, it would have had maybe a little gray to it in the raised areas and black in the cracks and details, what I got was a solid black model. Not a big deal, I just added more of the highlights myself, then a wash to bring the shadows back down, but they advertise these as a one and done for highlight and wash, and for this color I found that not at all to be true.
I find that the black templar has to go on very thinly to provide any contrast. Try the basilicanum grey and put 2 coats on. That may provide a better contrast for you. I have mostly tested on top of grey seer and corax white
Personally id use tetrosyl trade spray as a base coat then give it a wash as the base drys with a light gloss then paint the black parts and highlight if needed. Cut out an entire step with that.
since you take paint directly from the pot when using contrasts, are you not afraid of contaminating the colours when using one brush and multiple colours?
Not so kwik and EZ, but more of an upgraded version of tabletop standard. I would just go straight into painting the black on the visor and gun, then cover it in a light wash (nuln oil mixed with a bit of water).
I found this after I primed unfortunately, and I did a zenithal prime job. Is there a good way to base coat these, it looks like the apothecary white isn't much of a white and won't work well on the black. Thanks for responding if you do
Are you psychic? I just traded some MTG cards for three boxes of Legion starter set. Just yesterday...like as you were posting this...Uncle Atom might be my new grey knight
I used Vallejo Surface primer via airbrush on these specific models, but I've used The Army Painter white primer in a spraycan, as well. Thanks for watching!
I've had pretty mixed results with the contrast paints, probably going to stick to the standard paints from now on. Also Turbo Dork colour shift! We need a review!!!
@@tabletopminions Wasn't expecting a response! But thank you so much. (: I was annoyed because I liked the tutorial a lot but I didn't know where to start with the primer.
Uncle Atom, as a member of the 501st Legion your shirt kills me. The hero bucket (Only Luke and Han ever wore a helmet with the bubble eyes and only ever in A New Hope) and the clam-shell Empire Strikes Back hand-plates (the back of the hand-thingies) were never worn together in the movies. :D The "bumpy knee" is known as the "ammo belt". Sorry to be a pedant, building a costume to screen-accuracy turned me into the Comic Guy from the Simpsons when it comes to Stormtroopers.
@1:48...that scene is not from the original movie. Most of it is CGI scene re-staged and stained manure from the later "Director's Cut". Fun Fact...even when they released the Director's Cut, they included the "original" as it aired in theaters, or so they said...but this is a lie as there are many edits and other CGI effects still in it. I know because I saw the original when it was first in theaters. A total shame as we will never actually be able to see the actual original movie anymore without any of the CGI added nonsense.
@@Anjohl Yes, however the "Original" Theatrical Release they claim is in this 2 Disc set is not the unaltered original that was shown in theaters back in 1977. It still contains CGI nonsense, just not the full-blown nonsense of the Director's Cut.
@@Anjohl I have it. It does have CGI edits. For example, in the real original, when Han chases the group of Stormtroopers, behind him was a wall, but in the "Original theatrical version of STAR WARS" they have a room stuffed full of Stormtroopers. That was not in the original movie. There are many examples of stupid sht like this they left in. So, no, it's not original unaltered footage. I may make a video someday pointing out all the BS I can notice from this "Original theatrical version of STAR WARS"...because it is not 100% what was shown in theaters back in 1977.
A varnish and then a oil wash would work much better than the black contrast paint, if you thinned it down the white underneath will show through and give you your contrast
Fun fact; those *dirty* stormtroopers didn't exist In a New hope originally. They are CGI add ins made by Lucas afterwards. Honestly, the amount of stuff the guy just stuck in there that looks a little out of place is astounding. I'm not a star wars fan but I found rewatching the new version of the old movies unbearable.
Disney killed starwars. I wish it wasn't true, but it is.... do you auto nerf stormtroopers in the tabletop too? Actually the armor is white so when they go planetside they can take the local soil and camouflage the armour.
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i, an ork player, did a hearty laugh when "a lot ... i mean like A LOT of stormtroopers" turned out to be twenty eight
Agree. That's not even a single Clanrat unit! XD
Yeah as an old IG player, I feel your pain
As a Grot player I'm relieved to know that a swarm list just over a minimum unit of stabbas. Sounds like a lovely afternoon.
@@Yautja834 halfway through 40 stabbas, I giggled a little bit
I think your all comparing apples to oranges though, Legion is very much a Model based game, Not an Unit based game like citadel gametypes, I would if push came to shove compare Legion more to kill team or mordheim than any of the citadel mainstays, Even the largest point cap -1600 would be hard pressed to include over 50 models, That is legions 4 hour apocolypse level slogfest
I just got my first core set and have never painted a mini before. Of all the videos about how to paint these little suckers, yours seems the easiest. And certainly good enough for me. Thanks for this.
I've been able to resist collecting/playing this game so far. Dude, you're not helping me resist the temptation.
Give in to your desires. This game has grown immensly since it came out! DO IT!
Dew it
One of us!, One of us!, One of us!, Join us young pupil we have lightsabres and cookies.
@@Spiran_SphereHunter hahaha. I like cookies
Absolutely love these types of episodes from Uncle Atom! He is an absolute treasure trove of modeling tips and tricks. More please!!! And kudos for “stepping out of your comfort zone,” a bit for us Uncle Atom!
After doing the apothecary white, id wash it with nuln oil, so you get bit more contrast, and youll have less to do with the black contrast too. Then the highlighting as you did
I think just a heavier application of apothecary white would improve the contrast. Nuln oil on stormtroopers seems to make them look really dirty as far as I've seen, which if that's the aesthetic you're going for by all means. At the very least, nuln oil would do well to be diluted before applying onto a stormtrooper.
@@CaffeinePanda personally i do it with oil paints, so i dont have to clean up the mess the nuln oil does :) that shine it leaves on white is cherry on top for me
Nuln Oil is far too strong to apply over a white model.
@@RylanStorm apotechary white is grey at best:) also, if you have a look at the actual movie, they are black and white
@@lordhusee I'm very familiar with what a Stormtrooper looks like. I'm also familiar with what happens when you put Nuln Oil over White. It's goes dark grey. Stormtroopers are not dark grey.
Your video here, Sorastros Legion Painting guides and On Tabletops Let’s Play video got me to pull the trigger on SW: Legion. Thanks Uncle Atom😊
Loving the star wars legion content, going to apply this to my basic clone troops for sure 👌🏼
Nice quick technique to paint stormtroopers, what I generally did on mine was, I sprayed them white, then used a black wash on the entire model, drybrushed them white, then fill in all the flat area's with white and refined details, painted the gun with a watered down black and then used a clear gloss coat on all the armor panels to give them that new-looking shine they have in the movie's which also does wonders on the Darth vader model!
Terrible
@@matthuckabey007 I'm just sharing how I did my models, can't see what's terrible about it?
Not yours, his. Seems like he just slapped paint on and called it done. It's like he is loosing interest. Understandably, considering, but unfortunate because I've seen him do great work.
Oh lovely, I’ve wanted to see this vid since Legion was announced at GenCon years ago!
I finally discovered make up brushes for dry brushing. Wish I'd listened to you sooner, what a difference.
I absolutely love your efforts, but you can tell that painting him at arms length was KILLING your eyes! At 49 years old, I feel your pain, LOL!!!
And he recently bought a pair magnifying glasses...the ones you use while soldering electronic parts.
I feel your pain... only a few birthday candles behind ya.
46 here! I have changed to less precise techniques like contrast, washes and drybrush
About to pick up my Clone Troopers, great guide!
Nice to get to see you painting again :)
They look great. If you’re careful you could probably get a bit of black into the “mustache “ part of their helmet too but it a little finicky.
I’m guessing you will like the way contrast works on the rebels too. They take a wash well because they have a lot of cloth folds and textured and a few guys in the FFG painting forums have had good results with contrast.
Great video and I love to see you posting Legion content.
I just picked up 2 starter boxes and a bunch of contrast paints. Thank you for posting this video.
Arhhh the soothing tones of uncle Atom
I use mixing balls for all my metal and contrast paints. really helps with the separation.
Thank you for the video! I followed along best I could. By the end, my white paint was a little chunky looking and my black was a little messy. So I used a gloss clear coat, and covered the whole model with AK streaking grime. Then wiped off most of the streaking grime. IMO I got a pretty cool result. The streaking grime adds character and helps hide my messy paint job. And the gloss clear coat helps sell the effect that the armor is shiny under the grime. I really like it!
I painted some Rebel Tauntauns with Contrast White for their fur. Laid it on nice and thick and it was great.
That's a good idea. Thanks for watching!
Good easy paint job. Love it
You can achieve similar results by zenithal priming. Instead of the traditional black/grey/white, I start with a 50/50 mix of white + grey, and get lighter as I go up. Follow that up with some standard highlighting etc.
Legion is awesome!
I actually did something similar when I painted mine.
Primed white, hit the entire model with a heavily thinned down FW Black Acryllic Ink using water, then drybrushed white, and used some less thinned down ink to go over the bodysuit and gun. Then I went with some details like colored shoulders for the squad leaders and specialists having bits in the color of the squad. I then highlighted the black on the weapons and certain parts with a gunmetal.
I'd painted them off their bases because I pretty much used a rather simple option for basing by just covering the base with a piece of plastic canvas and added pipes via stir straws to the vehicles to mark facings along with some for setting each squad apart from the others. While it's rather easy to paint that type of base, it's far easier to paint the mini and the base separately there to make sure you get the entire thing.
I'll be using this for my Imperial Assault stormtroopers.
It should work great for them, too. Thanks for watching!
Contrast paints are great if you use them sparingly and guiding the paint to where you want it! Don’t use one thick coat like the marketing said
I find they work best on more organic models like nids
Still learning how to get the most out of them. Was really impressed by the GW TV video of Duncan using them for Alpha Legion! Gonna get some cheap snap fits and experiment.
That’s definitely been my experience as well. They work great over zenithal priming and the settle more controllably than inks. But you can’t just blob them in and walk away.
I agree they’re definitely better with organic stuff. They’re also amazing with chain mail as well because the black sinks in. It’s changes how I paint metal items. I go to is black Templar black and drybrush lead belcher (highlight with stormhost silver if you really want to). Gives a good worn metal effect, perfect for nurgle plague knives etc
@@nickdidlick9138 I have found that it works great for plasma too.
I totally would have painted my shirt when you pointed out the “nose” part
I tried this method Uncle Atom. It was quick and looks good
good video love to see you stepping out into legion I'm basically done this exact process with these exact paints for my clones
Just trying out the contrasts. I agree some are great, others not so much. The magnifiers you recommended were excellent.
Agreed im half asleep but at first i thought you had a big stormtrooper figure standing on your lap before my mind realised that its your t-shirt lol
I advise using agitators in your contrast paints. I've had no issues with them ever since I started doing that.
Please make that same for the rebels, great video! thanks
I came to your video after watching Sorastro, I'll definitely be using your method. 🤣
"... or, potentially, that direction..." :D
Nice to see you do a painting video. Seems like it's been a while! Definitely interested in seeing what you come up with for the rebels
Awesome video, Sir! Love seeing you paint, and I use contrast paints on every model now... in conjunction with traditional paints.
I was planning to use that Apothecary White paint for my snow-white T'au army, but now I'm not sure anymore tbh
What white rattle can are you using?
Great video.
"Fell in something other than sand, you say? Sounds to me like you neglected to notify the nearby stationed detachment of Pooper Troopers, they usually deal with these incidents. Let's hear what command thinks of this, shall we? Take him away."
woooww i see a lot of improvements with the camera angle for the painting demo!
when he said I usually dont do the sole on these guys my heart shattered
Stormtroopers are cool, I’m making a Vader’s Fist army and giving them the blue markings of their Clone Wars era counter part
More SWL please.
Great vid. It is great for a total noob like me. Which white did you use for dry brushing?
Tl:dr on the black Templar, it’s a great black paint, but there’s basically no contrast to it. At least that’s how mine ended up being, and I’ve used it on a few different models to test it out.
I’ve used the Templar black and after having great results with some of the oranges and browns, I found it to be incredibly disappointing. As a black, it covers great, flows maybe a little too well but being patient solves that just fine. My issue was with the “contrast”, because there’s virtually none. I was painting an infinity ninja and wanted her to be mostly black, and add some other colors in just a few places. Had this behaved like say, sharia dunes or snakebite leather, it would have had maybe a little gray to it in the raised areas and black in the cracks and details, what I got was a solid black model. Not a big deal, I just added more of the highlights myself, then a wash to bring the shadows back down, but they advertise these as a one and done for highlight and wash, and for this color I found that not at all to be true.
I find that the black templar has to go on very thinly to provide any contrast. Try the basilicanum grey and put 2 coats on. That may provide a better contrast for you. I have mostly tested on top of grey seer and corax white
Personally id use tetrosyl trade spray as a base coat then give it a wash as the base drys with a light gloss then paint the black parts and highlight if needed. Cut out an entire step with that.
since you take paint directly from the pot when using contrasts, are you not afraid of contaminating the colours when using one brush and multiple colours?
Obviously you would (and Adam does) rinse your brush before starting the next color.
Great tutorial.
It looks awesome. He looks a little funny because you didn't paint his mouth grill thing black. I love this recipe though!
Not so kwik and EZ, but more of an upgraded version of tabletop standard. I would just go straight into painting the black on the visor and gun, then cover it in a light wash (nuln oil mixed with a bit of water).
Just startet with legion and my first Storm Troopers. What did you use for basing those desert structure?
As someone who requires the magnifier visor I say put that thing on man even for the vid!
Others commented this, but yeah, the mouth grills should be black. Love Storm Trooper armor. Great video!
I found this after I primed unfortunately, and I did a zenithal prime job. Is there a good way to base coat these, it looks like the apothecary white isn't much of a white and won't work well on the black.
Thanks for responding if you do
Are you psychic? I just traded some MTG cards for three boxes of Legion starter set. Just yesterday...like as you were posting this...Uncle Atom might be my new grey knight
Some people have thought I'm psychic is the past. I don't feel psychic, but who knows. Thanks for watching!
It seems good also for white tau, right?
If I wanted to add a urban camo style to that stormtrooper with light grey + dark grey over the white, is there any process to follow?
Rogue one has a good scene with the jailors with grundge storm troopers
A new hope is technically, canonically episode 4
But for the true believers, it's episode 1.
What primer did you use? airbrush or rattlecan?
I used Vallejo Surface primer via airbrush on these specific models, but I've used The Army Painter white primer in a spraycan, as well. Thanks for watching!
I'm amazed you didn't point to your shirt for explaining were to paint.
I often like to touch up my parts....good advice right there :-)
try drybrushing with oil paints, the finish is much better and there is no grainy effect. the only downside is the drying time.
What paint brand do you recommend?
You “primed white” what white?
I know its kinda late but when you say white what are you saying, white scar corax white etc
Whatever white paint you like most. Thanks for watching!
Games Workshop players are the perfect base for Star Wars Legion and X wing. They are already comfortable soending massive amounts of money of minis.
Legion is far more affordable than GW's games. I think one box of dudes is about $25.
@@JPGotrokkits A drug habit is cheaper than GW.
I've had pretty mixed results with the contrast paints, probably going to stick to the standard paints from now on. Also Turbo Dork colour shift! We need a review!!!
Man i love how he doesn't say what kind of white primer he uses. Fantastic tutorial.
Use whatever white primer you’d like - I find most of them generally the same. I suspect I used an airbrush primer. Thanks for watching!
@@tabletopminions Wasn't expecting a response! But thank you so much. (: I was annoyed because I liked the tutorial a lot but I didn't know where to start with the primer.
Uncle Atom, as a member of the 501st Legion your shirt kills me. The hero bucket (Only Luke and Han ever wore a helmet with the bubble eyes and only ever in A New Hope) and the clam-shell Empire Strikes Back hand-plates (the back of the hand-thingies) were never worn together in the movies. :D The "bumpy knee" is known as the "ammo belt". Sorry to be a pedant, building a costume to screen-accuracy turned me into the Comic Guy from the Simpsons when it comes to Stormtroopers.
Being a member of the 501st, you should know that the stormtrooper on Atoms shirt is from Return of The Jedi.
@@martinsivertsen7485 damn, you're right, my bad!
Would this work the same if primed matte grey?
They'd be much grayer stormtroopers.
What rattlecan primer do you recommend for this?
What primer do you use?
Just an FYI for pigment settling out, less than $100 will get you a decent vortex mixer to fix that problem.
I would think base white, black wash, white drybrush would be even faster.
Storm troupers should have to reroll hits. Or it's just not canon ;-)
Stormtroopers in New Hope?..... thats Sandtroopers!
sonic sledgehammer studios did the same video.same paint ans methods
Bad guys? Bad guys!? Don't support the terrorists, join the Empire today!
@1:48...that scene is not from the original movie. Most of it is CGI scene re-staged and stained manure from the later "Director's Cut". Fun Fact...even when they released the Director's Cut, they included the "original" as it aired in theaters, or so they said...but this is a lie as there are many edits and other CGI effects still in it. I know because I saw the original when it was first in theaters. A total shame as we will never actually be able to see the actual original movie anymore without any of the CGI added nonsense.
The originals are available on the 2006 2-disc DVD releases.
@@Anjohl Yes, however the "Original" Theatrical Release they claim is in this 2 Disc set is not the unaltered original that was shown in theaters back in 1977. It still contains CGI nonsense, just not the full-blown nonsense of the Director's Cut.
@@TheGamerZapocalypse no, it's the full original theatrical cut, none of the CGI edits.
@@Anjohl I have it. It does have CGI edits. For example, in the real original, when Han chases the group of Stormtroopers, behind him was a wall, but in the "Original theatrical version of STAR WARS" they have a room stuffed full of Stormtroopers. That was not in the original movie. There are many examples of stupid sht like this they left in. So, no, it's not original unaltered footage. I may make a video someday pointing out all the BS I can notice from this "Original theatrical version of STAR WARS"...because it is not 100% what was shown in theaters back in 1977.
@@TheGamerZapocalypse you must have a different version than I do. The one I have is the unaltered theatrical cut.
A varnish and then a oil wash would work much better than the black contrast paint, if you thinned it down the white underneath will show through and give you your contrast
I would dirty them up a bit more.
I let my primer sit for 15 minutes 😬
GW and Star Wars ... don't cross the streams! :)
Randal I get that’s intended as humour, but FFG rules with GW minis is absolutely the dream.
Fun fact; those *dirty* stormtroopers didn't exist In a New hope originally. They are CGI add ins made by Lucas afterwards.
Honestly, the amount of stuff the guy just stuck in there that looks a little out of place is astounding. I'm not a star wars fan but I found rewatching the new version of the old movies unbearable.
Original Sandtroopers were not as dirty, but they were fairly crusty compared to their brothers in garrison.
Every time I see your glasses, I think of 3 pip command cards.
does GW give this chan a kickback?
OH MY GOD GET ON WITH IT.
hehe butt area.. niiice
Ummm. Yea - you’ll be doing as many rebel core units as Stormtroopers.
Disney killed starwars. I wish it wasn't true, but it is.... do you auto nerf stormtroopers in the tabletop too? Actually the armor is white so when they go planetside they can take the local soil and camouflage the armour.
What about his mouth?