THE REASON FOR 3 ENGINES IS CHINA STILL CAN'T MATCH THE USA IN ENGINE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUIRES 3 TO TRY TO KEEP PACE WITH THE USA'S 1 ENGINE F35. YOU SAID YOU USED AI TO FACT CHECK. ARE YOU NOT AWARE OF CHINA'S ENGINE DEVELOPMENT AND AIRCRAFT PRODUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT PROBLEMS?
You mentioned tailless designed originating in America, then what about the Ho-229 Also the other smaller Jet looks like it has downwards folding wingtips similar to the XB-70 Valkyrie
What did you expect? Intellectual and solid arguments from the people who still think that the f-15 has never been shot down, ego self stroking at its finest
They and the video also talk about US when talking about tailess jet fighters, when itd grmney that invented first tailess jet fighter in ww2. Even stealth bomber cincept was theres
Whats funny is just a mere decade ago China had to cut every corner possible and steal every bit of info they could to make a laughably half finished "5th gen jet" that noone wants to touch with a 10ft pole. Even the Saudis laughed them out the convention. They couldn't even develop their own engines without piggy backing off the Russians FFS. Neither can they build semi conductors. This is a paper tiger plane with nothing to show.
History taught us that :- 1) never underestimate your enimes and their abilities for your ego and over self estimation 2) hitler lost at stalin grad because of this and equipment wise ussr is way behind german... 3) napolean underestimated winter and lost in Russia...
Firstly wtf are you on about? Secondly how were the Soviets technology behind the Germans during Stalingrad? Thirdly Napoleon underestimated many things. He already lost the war against Russia before winter hit
Wang Haifeng stated his idea of the J-36 in one of his public paper. He mentioned about highly integrated propulsion/power system with the fuselage, and said the J-36 will be a megawatt-power(yes, an entire fking megawatt) platform to support highly advanced and sophisticated avionic system. This is exactly the reason why the J-36 is a trijet - they need an extra engine to powered all these thing. Also, the J-36 will have extreme range and decent supercruise abilities, and therefore became another reason to have a third engine - pretty counter-intuitive, but a three-engine jet could be more fuel efficient than a twin-engine when it comes to supercruise, since at high alttitude the unit fuel consumption could rise as the engine's thrust level rises, and a three-engine design will have each engine running on lower power setting when in cruising, therefore less fuel consumption in total. Wang's idea is "fuel efficiency comes ahead of thrust", since if you have an underpowered yet efficient engine, all you loss is just a few tens of knots of your maximum speed and a few hundred feet of your celling, which is not that important if you're a very stealthy aircraft that focused on BVR engagement only. A gas-guzzler yet powerful engine, however, could bring you better maneuverability, but will also make you have to adding tens of tons of fuel into your plane, just to met your combat radius requirement.
I think the current trend is to rely on stealth more and build larger aircraft as the engagement distances have increased. If your not planning in getting into a dogfight, you can build an aircraft thats more interceptor than fighter. Also with stealth aircraft being much more expensive your going to have less of them and they will need to cover more distance. Also airbases are static and likely your going to base your expensive planes deep within your territory to help defend against drone strikes. In the MIG-35 has performed better than its counterpart the SU-27 in the Ukraine war. The F-35s smaller size is because it needs to take off, land and fit on an aircraft carrier.
I'm going to propose the name: 响箭 (Xiǎngjiàn) ("Whistling Arrow") "This refers to a special type of kite fitted with bamboo whistles that made a sound in flight. These were used in military contexts to signal troops or create psychological effects." -Chat GPT Seems pretty fitting since it's kite shaped and has 3 jet engines.
Also, the middle engine is definitely not a SCRAM jet. The mach waves off the front would not work for that intake placement. I think it's for increased stealth cruising when the other 2 intakes close off.
@@Brandon_Makes_Stuff it's not scram or ramjet... It's literally the same engine for all 3 of them. It's a DSI intake, it won't work for ram or scramjet. I really doubt that intake connects to the other 2 intakes.
No ulterior motives here, but I just kind of want to point out that the idea has been used already in the PLA's hypersonic drone series 'MD-XX', for instance the MD-19 and the MD-22. MD stands for ‘鸣镝’, (Mingdi)(which means exactly 'whistling arrow'), and this literally is the name of an actual type of arrow used in ancient combat. So it isn't a kite, I guess. And the arrow in question is actually, according to Wiki, often made from a hollow metal tube instead of from bamboo.
according to the size, 3 engine configuration, and the weapons bay I can say that this will be Heavy Fighter Bomber. similar to Su-34 but stealth and more more weapons
@@srfnsurfer what? Are you joking? How is critical thought and questioning everything working for Chinese Engineers?! Oh that's right, they don't because they are not allowed free thoughts at all!
I’d love to see the American response to this aircraft too, but honestly, I’m not as optimistic about it as I used to be. Those new ICBMs are somehow so expensive that the Air Force is shelving the NGAD program, and now the Navy is trying to manage expectations about what their next 'NGAD' fighter will actually be capable of. The only thing I’m confident in right now is the government and military’s ability to cancel or cut back on crucial purchases while throwing ridiculous amounts of money at bases we don’t need and outdated weapon systems that are too politically tied up to scrap. And let’s not forget-they still can’t even pass an audit! They don’t even know where a good chunk of their money is going! They lucked out when they cut the F-22 order short, but I really hope they’re not looking at that as proof they can repeat the same mistake. The world is a much different place now, and we’ve got plenty of adversaries just waiting for us to slip up and take our eyes off of the goal.
NGAD might be getting shelved, but the Navy's 6th gen program seems to be going great and basically every fighting craft in the Air Force fleet is getting some much needed upgrades, from the B-52 all the way to the F-22. Add in the armament programs and the lack of a sixth gen fighter for the Air Force isn't much of an issue for any of the potential conflicts on the horizon. I'd rather we spend on the ICBMs over NGAD, those Minutemen are getting ancient and continued maintenance is unsustainable.
Are you talking about the money specifically for the military the reason why there's a good number of money that's not known where it's going to specifically because it's going to blacklisted stuff. As in things are not going to tell you what they're using it on, like a secret playing they're working on like the sr-71, granted I'm not sure specifically what you're referring to on that point. As for the 6th gen being worked on, it's still being done, especially for the navy, as for the Air Force I mean it's not that necessarily a big deal since you could potentially do it much cheaper by just upgrading the F-22 which is still a really great plain as it is, the big complaint with it is just that it's expensive. Expensive and hasn't been really used, but there's a reason for that since there's really hasn't been a need for it yet. Of course, if there were to be some kind of war like with China or Russia where we would need to use it, then you'd find that being far more justified. That doesn't mean they're not still working on it, they still will be working on especially Lockheed and I would say Boeing but who cares about them. It's not like they stopped production in making this plane was supposed to be at all.
@autumnberend828 The blacklists don’t even scratch the surface when it comes to the missing funds in the DoD. As for the F-22, I totally agree-it’s an incredible aircraft! But cutting production so early really put us in a tough spot. These upgrades are great, sure, but airframes have their limits, and we can’t just make more Raptors. If a major war breaks out, any losses in combat are permanent, and we wouldn’t be able to replace them. The NGAD situation is just wild. They were so far into the process-manufacturers already narrowed down based on specific metrics-and now they’re like, "Uh, yeah, can you just strip out all the expensive cutting-edge stuff and make it more affordable with tried-and-true tech?" I get wanting to save money, and Ukraine has definitely shown we need to rethink how war is fought. But at the same time, you don’t want to gamble with untested tech or risk falling behind.
@julians7268 in all fairness, the idea of this being a potential drone playing with its own drone swarm was a pretty damn ambitious idea to begin with. I mean I get where it's going, but I can already tell right away that's going to be extraordinarily expensive and me wondering if it was really worth it in the end. I feel like you could just make a base drone swarm with that instead of a whole thing that can host a person or by itself. I think the fact that the Air Force stopped looking into it so much whereas the Navy did not is not necessarily a bad thing considering most planes are flown by the navy, and it's also supposed to be an air dominance which would be right up their alley, although the Air Force could utilize them too but I don't think it's nearly as important as the Navy. But honestly who knows I'm not in their meetings. I just want a satellite that shoots lasers. Give me a death star and I'll find you for a lifetime.
@baronvonslambert for that much money, are the ICBMs really even necessary? I understand their purpose, but it just seems like a huge waste to me. They could just lie and say they are functional and who ever decides a preemptive strike is still going to have to hit those silos just to be safe. Job done. Ballistic submarines carry far more firepower, that has a much quicker time to target, and is a lot more survivable. Im not arguing with you. People far smarter than I believe the ICBMs are critical so they very well could be, but for that price it's just ridiculous. I mean, when yoy look at the capabilities they are not even much more capable than the minutemen 3's! The most recent figures are just over $140.9 billion!!! Sentinel was pitched to the Army with a price tag of $95.3 billion, which ballooned by 81%! Hell, the TOTAL PROJECTED COST of the entire Columbia-class submarine fleet of 12 ballistic missile submarines is only projected to be $130 billion. Compare that to the $140.9 billion for 400 individual, stationary, ICBMs with a limit of 3 MIRVS per missile. The Navy's Trident II can deploy 8 MIRVS and it only costs $30 million! On the other hand the Sentinel will cost (so far) $100 million per missile and carry less payload to target. I dont know... I just don't feel like making the NGAD less capable should be the price for this. I like the B-21 Raider too, but it is no replacement for a fighter. Not unless these CAAs make some incredible leap in capability and can fly along with it and out in front of it. But... I guess we shall see.
This is false it came from the government interacting with aliens. We are back engineering technology. Its how we started producing microchips and why in 60 years computers have gone from entire rooms, to phones having 1million times the processing power.. you're being lied to because when energy is free they lose control.
did you pulll that out your arse? because most 100% of the videos i've seen were saying US is falling behind when its obvious this chinese 6th gen isnt that advanced
@@didiyo4366 (Advance and stealth) isn't always only the main priority here, firepower,speed,agility and durability are also top priority. it might not be advance and stealthy but it's probably high in these four categories (who knows? Everyone's always keeping secrets anyways) only time will tell.
@ i say less advance considering how they appeared to used 3 engines. which is an indicator of how less powerful their engines are. For comparision, f35 is only single engine.
Remember right at the start of WW2 American and European were thinking that Japan aircraft development was rudimentary and only are copies of Western technology and design, until American actually dogfighted Mitsubishi in the sky of the Pacific that we started to realized how advanced they were. Forget history and you will have to repeat it again with blood.
Remember 5-8 years back when everyone though the us was behind russia in missle tech, and then the US revealed thepatriot missle system? Yeah it seems like people really don't learn from history
If you think the US can make something better, remember they still haven't started production of a missile capable of matching the chinese PL-15 in range. A US 6th gem fighter? Please, we'll be blessed to see a prototype by 2040
The logical ideal design for a launch platform for China’s advanced missiles. PL17 air to air missiles and probably an upgraded one in a few years. YJ12 anti ship missile and possibly a YJ21 anti ship missile.
I completely agree with your perspective. The future of aerial combat and air superiority will be dominated by beyond visual range engagements, which necessitates the use of extreme long-range air-to-air missiles like the PL-17, R-37M, and AIM-260 JATM. To maintain full stealth capabilities, 6th-generation fighter jets will require large internal weapon bays capable of carrying multiple missiles. I’ve heard some people refer to it as the JH-36, likely because its design resembles a bomber. However, this viewpoint seems rooted in 20th century aerial combat paradigms, which no longer apply to the advanced, stealth focused, and beyond visual range driven nature of modern warfare.
@ instead of thinking of it as 6th generation, it deserves its own category just like bomber and fighter. Aircraft designed to best launch stand-off weapons. Not just a missile truck like a converted transport aircraft, but designed for speed, range, stealth, large internal weapon bay, altitude, and ability to launch missiles at high altitude & velocity to maximize their range. No need to compromise the design for high g maneuvers, not excellent pilot visibility from a bubble cockpit canopy, not a huge flight envelope. A typical scenario could be patrol. If a ship or task force has been detected by satellite, then two manned J36 could fly together with 6 stripped down J36 drones that do not require their own sensors, cockpit, avionics. (they don’t need it because they will be controlled by the manned J36 aircraft nearby). The J36 drones could each launch YJ21 missiles aimed at all the Aegis radar ships to blind the task force. H6 bombers could then launch a large number of YJ21 at every ship in the task force without being detected. J20 aircraft 50 or 150 miles back could provide strong jamming to further hide the J36 if necessary while they make their escape. In case aircraft were chasing the escaping J36, the J20 fighters could also provide defense as the J36 return home.
J36 most like a PCA/Penetrating Counter Air similar to the NGAD manned fighter component, but aimed to take out high value tankers and awacs. J50 most likely the next frontline fighter for air superiority.
@ there is no evidence to suggest it is not unmanned. Carrier capable also doesnt mean its manned, in fact you have even have a drone carrier, an unmanned carrier with unmanned aircraft taking off.
aviation has not changed. South Korea, Japan, Turkey, and others have also flown stealth prototypes. US have been operating tens of stealth aircraft for 5 decades already.
@@davidz7858 nope. only one country can even claim to have anything 6th gen (the US). everyone else is just building 5th gen and catching up to where the US was 50yrs ago. SKorea, Japan, Turkey, Russia, China, etc. aircraft aren't even as good as US 5th gen aircraft.
Wow, China's 6th generation stealth supersonic jet fighter is a real flying wing with no vertical stabilizers. This aircraft must be equipped with advanced computer on board that keeps it stable. It looks so thin and streamlined which makes it stealthy, fuel efficient for long range mission, a very modern design indeed.
So far it looks like a stealthy strike aircraft with air to air capabilities. It´s been known for quite some time that stealthy air to air fighters will end up being more like bombers.
What's insane is how there are so many people attempting to figure this out based on a short grainy video of an early test acft that china obv knew would be recorded and sent out to the internet.
Why does everyone like to act like the Chinese are just idiots at everything? They make EVERYTHING. I don't agree with how they do things, but they are cutting edge in most fields now.
The J36 and J50 were not separate breakthroughs, but the result of the overall progress of China's industry. To put it simply, it is much easier for China to design and manufacture equipment than others. Even if the United States can design a more advanced platform, China can immediately learn from it and manufacture an even more advanced one, because China has a more comprehensive and efficient industry that can afford it. This is also the fundamental reason why the Soviet Union couldn't keep up with the US. Instead of what many American believe, that because the Soviets made an advanced plane, so the indomitable Americans made the F16. It was not like that at all, it was just easier for the US to do things because of the sound industry in the US. It's the difference in industrial capacity, but this time the United States is the Soviet Union.
There is a mistake in the model. The joints for then rudders are not visible in the real plane, they are blended with the wing. The seamless joints and lack of actuators evidence the use of electric high precision high velocity actuators for constant fly by wire stability control and flexible skin materials.
Tailless designes had existed since forever (since the beginning of the 20th century). The problem (as with everything) is making them practical and useful to the current gen of modern aviation. And that particular caveat is extremely hard.
The fact is, stealth air superiority foghters isnt all its cracked up to be. For 1, while stealth is strong, it is not very econmical to field large numbers of stealth aircraft. Ultimately, stealth is justed ysed to clear the way for your non stealth aircraft to operate, so it makes sense why they aren't produced in large number.
It is a complete stupidity we continue to think "how did that country do that, "how did that people have the technology " as if we and the the USA are the greatest champions, and all others are complete morons.
Even the currect Chinese "5th Generation" are probably only "4th" gen! China don't design their own equipment, they steal it without understanding it and then they over exagerate the capabilities! As opposed to the US, who will always understate their equipment and it capabilities!
Higher flight altitude, faster flight speed, farther radar detection unit, better stealth design, so that it can hit the fifth-generation aircraft, but the fifth-generation aircraft can't hit it. It may be equipped with two WS15 engines and a rotary detonation engine used in near space, and the propulsion power far exceeds all existing fighters.
Didn’t the US have a prototype 6th gen back in 2020, but they realised that it was easier, cheaper, and more effective to upgrade the F 15, 16, 18, 22 and 35 with all the bells and whistles that make a 6th gen a 6th gen instead of making a new tail less design that barely gonna beat the 22 and 35 in radar cross section?
That was the casr cause of the jncompetnce of them, mass producing jets now is tech of gone era for them as 6th costs then 300m. Its officially YT superiority airforce now.
The problem is the roles might be reversed. The F-35 might be the aircraft that causes China to leap ahead by a generation and mass manufacture something that makes the F-35 seem both primitive and expensive. US development and manufacturing is starting to look as stale and anemic as the late CCCP.
Its a missile truck, designed to deny carrier battle group an area. It needs to be stealthy so it can enter the contested airspace. Then fires its payload. Finally flying supersonic back home before the F35 can intercept it. Crazy concept.
The third engine probably kicks in to run. The short range and slow speed of the F35 is finally biting back. The navy needs a new stealth equivalent of F14
All major powers have been struggling to build aircraft that can power all the modern advanced electronics and disapate all the heat they inevitably produce. Most likely, this is an attempt to solve that problem, just as the European 6th gen program is. It will be missile truck, drone control centre, mini AWAC and stealth fighter/bomber in one most likely. That or it's just propaganda, but somehow I doubt that
I don't know, a Chinese satellite that picked up moon rocks from the far side of the moon and brought it back, a Chinese space station, and a chinese mars lander that made it to Mars and recently, a Chinese A.I named deepseek surpassed gpt and crashed American A.I markets. Does Chinese tech work?
Finally, I have been saying for a while that this was mostly likely not the sixth gen fighter that everyone says it is and not like a medium stealth bomber similar to the US f117
i feel like the bottom intakes are not s-ducted as you can see the intake fin in the model but the top intake might be s-ducted.this is also indicated from a side view, so the turning off two engines and using only the top one in enemy territory for stealth makes sense.
How is this 3D model and accurate representation of the real thing? It won't be accurate because we don't even have official dimensions. This is a complete baseless and stupid argument
so to count6th Generation is it true it needs this ? AI and Automation: Unmanned or optionally manned operations supported by artificial intelligence. Directed Energy Weapons: Lasers or high-powered microwaves integrated into the airframe. Swarm Drone Capability: Ability to command and deploy a swarm of drones in battle. Next-Level Stealth: Focus on multi-spectrum stealth, including radar, infrared, and electronic emissions. Adaptive Engines: Variable-cycle engines for enhanced performance and efficiency.
There are no 6th Gen jets yet, so there’s no definite definition, but that is what the US’s next (6th) generation design (NGAD) has, if they build it ($300m).
The third engine also provides a testbed setup for in flight checkouts of newer version upgrades while having redundancy. Also extra power output for newer electrical hungry components.
And also because china has yet to create a jet propulsion engine capable of reaching the speeds and output of the our Gen 6 jets with only 1 modernnengine.
The Chinese's first attempt at stealth fighter jet program was the J-20 and J-35, the J-36 and that Shenyang program is their first attempt at 6th gen program. Its 100% a 6th gen program, but the J-36 and that Shenyang jet is not 6th gen yet, there are way more tests to go. It will become 6th gen when PLA accepts it. Both Chengdu and Shenyang have their own 6th gen program and Xian is also working on H-20 and a JHXX program. Every country is in uncharted water here, the US and China had a head start with their 6th gen program. I don't see any problem with Chinese having something to show for it.
People usually have a stereotype that China's jet engine technology lags far behind the West. In fact, the Chinese are catching up very quickly in this regard and may even surpass the West soon. This is difficult for the outside world to perceive, but relevant facts will slowly emerge. For example, the latest J20 is already equipped with a WS15 engine that is slightly more powerful than the f119.
Many people are incapable of grasping just how much China has developed in 25 years. Many westerners seem to have some kind of ideological, exceptionalist, chauvinistic brainrot that prevents them from seeing just how much the world has changed. They're too locked into propaganda memes to actually critically examine what is going on.
If i see multiple digits at the end of someones username here in the comments im going to assume youre a paid bot account probably from india or something similar and your opinion is invalid
Given that China have such strong hightech manufacturing experiences and supply China, couple that with a huge highly talented pool of engineer and researchers, the odds are we will see 6 gen from China long before the Americans.
I always enjoy your videos, and the animation is usually top notch, but in some cases on the one, the movement of the airframe seems to be in opposition to the movement of the control surfaces.
west doesn't have? Wha the .... its technically micro-sized B21 Even got that split rudder still expanding, likely to keep the craft from pitching uncontrollably
China's like, "We're totally mass-producing this plane," but in the vids, it's flying low-key close to the ground, which shows it's not all that powerful. It's still rocking those copied German wing designs
Kinda crazy how the usa tests a ngad prototype since 2020 and just now china tests there first prototype and everyone is freaking out,so goofy honestly
Man, the amount of people in here riding the Copium Express is wild. Hate to break it to y’all, but China’s catching up fast-might’ve already passed the US when it comes to air superiority.
That’s a good one. Their equipment is junk. No countries in the world begging China to sell them their highest tech planes. These supposed 6th generation planes are like all their other tech, from stolen schematics from other countries programs. Everyone’s talking about China now. “They have a 6th gen before the US.” This is what they wanted. With the history of American aviation with all the successful cutting edge aircraft programs and massive funding you honestly think China would somehow leapfrog ahead? Gtfoh. China is a strong military and shouldn’t be underestimated but to think they are gonna lead the US in aviation is laughable
The West has sixth generation aircraft in development, a total of four different programs, and several prototypes have apparently flown years ago for the USAF. There’s no indication that China is ahead in development, and whether any of the sixth generation programs actually produce something sufficiently revolutionary to qualify as next generation is for posterity to decide.
I hope your comment made you feel better 😂😂😂 It's not hard to spot you clowns, always believing that it is only US that can do better, that's why US is quickly fallen behind. You’re quick to point out that the West has 3 6gen in development but you believe china doesn't have many other 6 or even 7gen in development lol. The era of US is over gay 😂😂😂
@@Thejoeviral the US unlike china has proven its technology serval times, and it is a lot more secretive in their programs, there could be a thousand different programs and we don't know, we can't call something "the greatest fighter" just by a flyby.
You are saying there's no indication yet they have a flying prototype unlike the US. Historically speaking, yes, they've always struggled before, but nothing says that they can't catch up and surpass the west. And to my understanding it is going to happen eventually. The only question is when, will it be in 10 - 20 or 30 years. But by the looks of it it would happen earlier than everyone expects.
@@jonthepolarbear Yeah. In my life I've seen an infinite amount of prototypes. That didn't actually come to fruition and weren't eventually taped even. Even those that did, I don't know a single one that had finished and delivered on it's original promised numbers ( F22 promise of close to 1k, only 200 built. B2 promise of 200 only 20 delivered etc)... same thing with SR71 many promises and not so much deliveries and a quick retirement... same with the F117. So having a great project on paper is one thing. Actually delivering it and it entering service and serving for a long time is another... It's hard to actually make a craft that would last a long time and be relevant, on top of actually building it and everything working for it...
No, the west definitely has 6th gen. The US has admitted we have flying 6th generation prototypes, and said this BEFORE China publicly revealed theirs.
@@Flightman453 but lets be honest, the US government is more secretive about their technology, just look at the sr71 or f117, there is a chance that ngad is just a cover-up.
@@EJack2841 US only has combat experience against illiterate farmers and still lost 😂. ✡️🇺🇸 Last time US fought germany they had to beg for Soviet union and British Empire 😂 or Americans would be speaking german
There is a reason three-engine airplanes have gone the way of the Dodo - they historically were a way to overcome lack of suitably powerful (or reliable) engines, but as engines improved it became easier to use two bigger main engines rather that have the hassle of handling a third one, with its specific intake, air duct and maintenance access route (more so as, in this plane, said air duct is in the way of internal fuel and weapon bays). So, it is nice to look at, but I helieve that it is just something like a tech demonstrator, built to test the general architecture, the fly by wire software and controls and maybe radar absorbing techniques beyond simple coating materials using available engines. Meanwhile, I suppose someone in the Chinese jet industry must be working on the engines for what will be the actual plane.
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THE REASON FOR 3 ENGINES IS CHINA STILL CAN'T MATCH THE USA IN ENGINE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUIRES 3 TO TRY TO KEEP PACE WITH THE USA'S 1 ENGINE F35. YOU SAID YOU USED AI TO FACT CHECK. ARE YOU NOT AWARE OF CHINA'S ENGINE DEVELOPMENT AND AIRCRAFT PRODUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT PROBLEMS?
Remember this fact China has more scientists & Engineers than the all west combined.
Can we have a video on the beautiful J-10 please
You mentioned tailless designed originating in America, then what about the Ho-229
Also the other smaller Jet looks like it has downwards folding wingtips similar to the XB-70 Valkyrie
"we don't know shit"
Lmao sums up the entire video😂
we definitely know it flies
we're pretty sure about the shape
😂😂😂. You nailed it.
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This could be a long range interceptor
-new engines for high speed
-massive wings for maneuverability
-very secretive
-new high tech stuff
Close enough. Welcome back MiG-25!
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Which means the us will make something scarier.
@@sebastienholmes548 Yea sorry but yur fan fiction doesn't exist. NGAD is delayed and dead in it's 2020 form.
Fan fiction doesn't exist. Sorry, but cope.
lol mig still holds the records, beat it before you talk
“the bluetooth device is ready to pair”
You still use the headset tho
And the cancel button is half pushed in and won’t read, so just use pause play and reassign it.
China litrelly destroyed the US stock market with deepseek.
Copium soldier
*In Chinese accent 😂
I like how the comment section doesnt give solid argument but just coping call it temu and compare it to other us prototype
What did you expect? Intellectual and solid arguments from the people who still think that the f-15 has never been shot down, ego self stroking at its finest
Chinese hate, their comments would be different if it was Japan who develop 6th gen aircraft
They and the video also talk about US when talking about tailess jet fighters, when itd grmney that invented first tailess jet fighter in ww2. Even stealth bomber cincept was theres
Whats funny is just a mere decade ago China had to cut every corner possible and steal every bit of info they could to make a laughably half finished "5th gen jet" that noone wants to touch with a 10ft pole. Even the Saudis laughed them out the convention. They couldn't even develop their own engines without piggy backing off the Russians FFS. Neither can they build semi conductors. This is a paper tiger plane with nothing to show.
Dude. Look at nearly everything they have and you will see it's actually copied from the US. And everyone knows they are cheap.
History taught us that :-
1) never underestimate your enimes and their abilities for your ego and over self estimation
2) hitler lost at stalin grad because of this and equipment wise ussr is way behind german...
3) napolean underestimated winter and lost in Russia...
I'm sorry but it's China... it doesn't have a good track record with anything.
Germany lost Stalin grad because they open two fronts of the war if it was only Germany vs the ussr then Germany would have won
History taught us: don't scare the US into thinking you have something better. They will make something that can kill God.
Firstly wtf are you on about? Secondly how were the Soviets technology behind the Germans during Stalingrad? Thirdly Napoleon underestimated many things. He already lost the war against Russia before winter hit
History taught us Germany was defeated by depriving them of raw material and oil, so their great industrial base was good for nothing.
Wang Haifeng stated his idea of the J-36 in one of his public paper. He mentioned about highly integrated propulsion/power system with the fuselage, and said the J-36 will be a megawatt-power(yes, an entire fking megawatt) platform to support highly advanced and sophisticated avionic system. This is exactly the reason why the J-36 is a trijet - they need an extra engine to powered all these thing.
Also, the J-36 will have extreme range and decent supercruise abilities, and therefore became another reason to have a third engine - pretty counter-intuitive, but a three-engine jet could be more fuel efficient than a twin-engine when it comes to supercruise, since at high alttitude the unit fuel consumption could rise as the engine's thrust level rises, and a three-engine design will have each engine running on lower power setting when in cruising, therefore less fuel consumption in total. Wang's idea is "fuel efficiency comes ahead of thrust", since if you have an underpowered yet efficient engine, all you loss is just a few tens of knots of your maximum speed and a few hundred feet of your celling, which is not that important if you're a very stealthy aircraft that focused on BVR engagement only. A gas-guzzler yet powerful engine, however, could bring you better maneuverability, but will also make you have to adding tens of tons of fuel into your plane, just to met your combat radius requirement.
西工大早在7年前發表過一篇論文就是第三臺背部發動機更高效
I think the current trend is to rely on stealth more and build larger aircraft as the engagement distances have increased. If your not planning in getting into a dogfight, you can build an aircraft thats more interceptor than fighter. Also with stealth aircraft being much more expensive your going to have less of them and they will need to cover more distance. Also airbases are static and likely your going to base your expensive planes deep within your territory to help defend against drone strikes. In the MIG-35 has performed better than its counterpart the SU-27 in the Ukraine war. The F-35s smaller size is because it needs to take off, land and fit on an aircraft carrier.
On a public paper you say...
More likely, they have three engines to properly power the damn thing into flight at all. The Chinese aren’t exactly the best at making good engines.
@@theKingsAmbassadors it is… you can literally find it online if you know how to…
I'm going to propose the name: 响箭 (Xiǎngjiàn) ("Whistling Arrow")
"This refers to a special type of kite fitted with bamboo whistles that made a sound in flight. These were used in military contexts to signal troops or create psychological effects." -Chat GPT Seems pretty fitting since it's kite shaped and has 3 jet engines.
Also, the middle engine is definitely not a SCRAM jet. The mach waves off the front would not work for that intake placement. I think it's for increased stealth cruising when the other 2 intakes close off.
Na, it’s the anti grav motor for when it’s time to switch from Jackie Chan to Bruce Lee mode
Good! The new name says what it does!
@@Brandon_Makes_Stuff it's not scram or ramjet... It's literally the same engine for all 3 of them. It's a DSI intake, it won't work for ram or scramjet. I really doubt that intake connects to the other 2 intakes.
No ulterior motives here, but I just kind of want to point out that the idea has been used already in the PLA's hypersonic drone series 'MD-XX', for instance the MD-19 and the MD-22. MD stands for ‘鸣镝’, (Mingdi)(which means exactly 'whistling arrow'), and this literally is the name of an actual type of arrow used in ancient combat. So it isn't a kite, I guess. And the arrow in question is actually, according to Wiki, often made from a hollow metal tube instead of from bamboo.
That size, 2 pilots, 3 engines, its an intercontinental subsonic bomber - like US 21.
That is an interesting take!
no, never.
i'd bet on it being at least supersonic, but it's definitely a bomber. with that layout? no question.
@@btkt6464 what do you mean never? China doesn't have a stealth/strategic bomber fleet
maybe its like f117
according to the size, 3 engine configuration, and the weapons bay
I can say that this will be Heavy Fighter Bomber. similar to Su-34 but stealth and more more weapons
it's more like MiG-31. Supersonic missile carrier, and it also has less payload that Su-34
I would say the Russian fox hound
This isn't a fighter bomber dude. Let alone compared to a "Su-34" LOL.
@@AkyJLa_ ah, I see
J for fighter,H for bomber..And the thing is called JH-36.
Holy moly the copium on the comments
Wait till they see Chinese cars and phones and see how more advanced they are.
@@srfnsurfer what? Are you joking? How is critical thought and questioning everything working for Chinese Engineers?! Oh that's right, they don't because they are not allowed free thoughts at all!
@@duckcensorship7446and ur proof for that is what? Ur LGBTQ government of USA told u that huh?
@@duckcensorship7446 ?
@@duckcensorship7446me when i cope
I’d love to see the American response to this aircraft too, but honestly, I’m not as optimistic about it as I used to be. Those new ICBMs are somehow so expensive that the Air Force is shelving the NGAD program, and now the Navy is trying to manage expectations about what their next 'NGAD' fighter will actually be capable of.
The only thing I’m confident in right now is the government and military’s ability to cancel or cut back on crucial purchases while throwing ridiculous amounts of money at bases we don’t need and outdated weapon systems that are too politically tied up to scrap. And let’s not forget-they still can’t even pass an audit! They don’t even know where a good chunk of their money is going!
They lucked out when they cut the F-22 order short, but I really hope they’re not looking at that as proof they can repeat the same mistake. The world is a much different place now, and we’ve got plenty of adversaries just waiting for us to slip up and take our eyes off of the goal.
NGAD might be getting shelved, but the Navy's 6th gen program seems to be going great and basically every fighting craft in the Air Force fleet is getting some much needed upgrades, from the B-52 all the way to the F-22. Add in the armament programs and the lack of a sixth gen fighter for the Air Force isn't much of an issue for any of the potential conflicts on the horizon.
I'd rather we spend on the ICBMs over NGAD, those Minutemen are getting ancient and continued maintenance is unsustainable.
Are you talking about the money specifically for the military the reason why there's a good number of money that's not known where it's going to specifically because it's going to blacklisted stuff. As in things are not going to tell you what they're using it on, like a secret playing they're working on like the sr-71, granted I'm not sure specifically what you're referring to on that point.
As for the 6th gen being worked on, it's still being done, especially for the navy, as for the Air Force I mean it's not that necessarily a big deal since you could potentially do it much cheaper by just upgrading the F-22 which is still a really great plain as it is, the big complaint with it is just that it's expensive. Expensive and hasn't been really used, but there's a reason for that since there's really hasn't been a need for it yet. Of course, if there were to be some kind of war like with China or Russia where we would need to use it, then you'd find that being far more justified.
That doesn't mean they're not still working on it, they still will be working on especially Lockheed and I would say Boeing but who cares about them.
It's not like they stopped production in making this plane was supposed to be at all.
@autumnberend828 The blacklists don’t even scratch the surface when it comes to the missing funds in the DoD.
As for the F-22, I totally agree-it’s an incredible aircraft! But cutting production so early really put us in a tough spot. These upgrades are great, sure, but airframes have their limits, and we can’t just make more Raptors. If a major war breaks out, any losses in combat are permanent, and we wouldn’t be able to replace them.
The NGAD situation is just wild. They were so far into the process-manufacturers already narrowed down based on specific metrics-and now they’re like, "Uh, yeah, can you just strip out all the expensive cutting-edge stuff and make it more affordable with tried-and-true tech?" I get wanting to save money, and Ukraine has definitely shown we need to rethink how war is fought. But at the same time, you don’t want to gamble with untested tech or risk falling behind.
@julians7268 in all fairness, the idea of this being a potential drone playing with its own drone swarm was a pretty damn ambitious idea to begin with. I mean I get where it's going, but I can already tell right away that's going to be extraordinarily expensive and me wondering if it was really worth it in the end. I feel like you could just make a base drone swarm with that instead of a whole thing that can host a person or by itself.
I think the fact that the Air Force stopped looking into it so much whereas the Navy did not is not necessarily a bad thing considering most planes are flown by the navy, and it's also supposed to be an air dominance which would be right up their alley, although the Air Force could utilize them too but I don't think it's nearly as important as the Navy. But honestly who knows I'm not in their meetings. I just want a satellite that shoots lasers. Give me a death star and I'll find you for a lifetime.
@baronvonslambert for that much money, are the ICBMs really even necessary? I understand their purpose, but it just seems like a huge waste to me. They could just lie and say they are functional and who ever decides a preemptive strike is still going to have to hit those silos just to be safe. Job done. Ballistic submarines carry far more firepower, that has a much quicker time to target, and is a lot more survivable.
Im not arguing with you. People far smarter than I believe the ICBMs are critical so they very well could be, but for that price it's just ridiculous. I mean, when yoy look at the capabilities they are not even much more capable than the minutemen 3's!
The most recent figures are just over $140.9 billion!!! Sentinel was pitched to the Army with a price tag of $95.3 billion, which ballooned by 81%!
Hell, the TOTAL PROJECTED COST of the entire Columbia-class submarine fleet of 12 ballistic missile submarines is only projected to be $130 billion. Compare that to the $140.9 billion for 400 individual, stationary, ICBMs with a limit of 3 MIRVS per missile. The Navy's Trident II can deploy 8 MIRVS and it only costs $30 million! On the other hand the Sentinel will cost (so far) $100 million per missile and carry less payload to target.
I dont know... I just don't feel like making the NGAD less capable should be the price for this. I like the B-21 Raider too, but it is no replacement for a fighter. Not unless these CAAs make some incredible leap in capability and can fly along with it and out in front of it. But... I guess we shall see.
the theory for creating stealth aircraft was made by Russian scientist.
that is false
This is true a Russian scientist had an idea and the United States put the effort into proving it and it evolved into the f-117
This is false it came from the government interacting with aliens. We are back engineering technology. Its how we started producing microchips and why in 60 years computers have gone from entire rooms, to phones having 1million times the processing power.. you're being lied to because when energy is free they lose control.
@@aquilesca5tr0It is true - a Soviet physicist wrote the paper for it first which then led to the F117
Lmao then f35 crashed in Alaska. Another 100m wasted
And the F-16s crashed in Ukraine, also there was another F-35 crash a few years ago too. No J-20 ever crashed and they're making fun of it lol.
3 engines. That thing was made for near-space wars. Imagine...
It's got 3 engines to provide enough electricity for more powerful avionics and the possibility of integrating a laser weapon.
Finally one that’s not racial and old stereotypes of people that know nothing about aircraft
did you pulll that out your arse? because most 100% of the videos i've seen were saying US is falling behind when its obvious this chinese 6th gen isnt that advanced
@@didiyo4366 (Advance and stealth) isn't always only the main priority here, firepower,speed,agility and durability are also top priority. it might not be advance and stealthy but it's probably high in these four categories (who knows? Everyone's always keeping secrets anyways) only time will tell.
@@didiyo4366 how do you know? building an aircraft is already difficult af, let alone a stealth one.
@ i say less advance considering how they appeared to used 3 engines. which is an indicator of how less powerful their engines are.
For comparision, f35 is only single engine.
@ there are signs. read my comment above
>is probably very fast and agile
>resembles US concepts for in-development next-gen fighters
>we have no way to counter it
Welcome back, MiG-25!
China: *reveals new jet*
Lockheed: “ok boys which project are we gonna show to the public next without them complaining about tax dollars”
Finally!!! 😎 Ace Combat’s crazy looking planes are here ❤
Hope China is serious about their Arsenal Bird!
This reminds me of the XFA-36 from Electrosphere
Lmao i love this😂
I guess U.S.'s 5th Generation aircrafts have more targets to practice on, lol.
@@FlatulEssence lol fangurls so salty
Remember right at the start of WW2 American and European were thinking that Japan aircraft development was rudimentary and only are copies of Western technology and design, until American actually dogfighted Mitsubishi in the sky of the Pacific that we started to realized how advanced they were. Forget history and you will have to repeat it again with blood.
Remember 5-8 years back when everyone though the us was behind russia in missle tech, and then the US revealed thepatriot missle system? Yeah it seems like people really don't learn from history
0:18 glass flickering it's a render issue
🙏🙏master
You're pretty smart for an English speaking guy. You realized on your own that this is a rendering.
he ain't talkin to y'all
If you model two polygon faces in exactly the same position, it may appear like this.
How on earth did this guy turn a 30 second short from china into a 17 minute video?
If you think the US can make something better, remember they still haven't started production of a missile capable of matching the chinese PL-15 in range. A US 6th gem fighter? Please, we'll be blessed to see a prototype by 2040
The logical ideal design for a launch platform for China’s advanced missiles. PL17 air to air missiles and probably an upgraded one in a few years. YJ12 anti ship missile and possibly a YJ21 anti ship missile.
I completely agree with your perspective. The future of aerial combat and air superiority will be dominated by beyond visual range engagements, which necessitates the use of extreme long-range air-to-air missiles like the PL-17, R-37M, and AIM-260 JATM. To maintain full stealth capabilities, 6th-generation fighter jets will require large internal weapon bays capable of carrying multiple missiles. I’ve heard some people refer to it as the JH-36, likely because its design resembles a bomber. However, this viewpoint seems rooted in 20th century aerial combat paradigms, which no longer apply to the advanced, stealth focused, and beyond visual range driven nature of modern warfare.
@ instead of thinking of it as 6th generation, it deserves its own category just like bomber and fighter. Aircraft designed to best launch stand-off weapons. Not just a missile truck like a converted transport aircraft, but designed for speed, range, stealth, large internal weapon bay, altitude, and ability to launch missiles at high altitude & velocity to maximize their range. No need to compromise the design for high g maneuvers, not excellent pilot visibility from a bubble cockpit canopy, not a huge flight envelope.
A typical scenario could be patrol. If a ship or task force has been detected by satellite, then two manned J36 could fly together with 6 stripped down J36 drones that do not require their own sensors, cockpit, avionics. (they don’t need it because they will be controlled by the manned J36 aircraft nearby). The J36 drones could each launch YJ21 missiles aimed at all the Aegis radar ships to blind the task force. H6 bombers could then launch a large number of YJ21 at every ship in the task force without being detected. J20 aircraft 50 or 150 miles back could provide strong jamming to further hide the J36 if necessary while they make their escape. In case aircraft were chasing the escaping J36, the J20 fighters could also provide defense as the J36 return home.
Now that deepseek is better than chat gpt can we admit that this is actually a 6th gen jet
The War Thunder forums are losing their grip, disappointing.
There is the possibility that J-50 is the unmanned wingman for J-36, the high speed extremely low observability targeting system.
2 pilots, 1 to pilot the J-36 and another to pilot the J-50 remotely? Just a theory.
The J-50 will be the "Pakistani 6th Gen Fighter"
J36 most like a PCA/Penetrating Counter Air similar to the NGAD manned fighter component, but aimed to take out high value tankers and awacs. J50 most likely the next frontline fighter for air superiority.
J50,not sure it's designation, is carrier capable. Not a drone. Drones are coming too.
@ there is no evidence to suggest it is not unmanned. Carrier capable also doesnt mean its manned, in fact you have even have a drone carrier, an unmanned carrier with unmanned aircraft taking off.
aviation has not changed. South Korea, Japan, Turkey, and others have also flown stealth prototypes.
US have been operating tens of stealth aircraft for 5 decades already.
indeed, Israel have already proven the capability of F35 yet CCP trolls claims j20 and j35 is better when it all do is airshow and propaganda.
Those are 6th gen.
@@davidz7858 nope. only one country can even claim to have anything 6th gen (the US). everyone else is just building 5th gen and catching up to where the US was 50yrs ago.
SKorea, Japan, Turkey, Russia, China, etc. aircraft aren't even as good as US 5th gen aircraft.
@@SoloRenegade You remind me of an oldman who said in 2024 that he hope China would have a lot of cars now...
Goddamnit people! This entire comment section has no love for the Foxhound? Come on!
Wow, China's 6th generation stealth supersonic jet fighter is a real flying wing with no vertical stabilizers. This aircraft must be equipped with advanced computer on board that keeps it stable. It looks so thin and streamlined which makes it stealthy, fuel efficient for long range mission, a very modern design indeed.
So far it looks like a stealthy strike aircraft with air to air capabilities. It´s been known for quite some time that stealthy air to air fighters will end up being more like bombers.
What's insane is how there are so many people attempting to figure this out based on a short grainy video of an early test acft that china obv knew would be recorded and sent out to the internet.
Before it becomes fashionable, I'll let you know that this is my favorite sixth generation plane
oh trust me, it won't.
Why does everyone like to act like the Chinese are just idiots at everything? They make EVERYTHING. I don't agree with how they do things, but they are cutting edge in most fields now.
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor it already did 😊✡️🇺🇸
Big oofff
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor it already did
The J36 and J50 were not separate breakthroughs, but the result of the overall progress of China's industry. To put it simply, it is much easier for China to design and manufacture equipment than others. Even if the United States can design a more advanced platform, China can immediately learn from it and manufacture an even more advanced one, because China has a more comprehensive and efficient industry that can afford it. This is also the fundamental reason why the Soviet Union couldn't keep up with the US. Instead of what many American believe, that because the Soviets made an advanced plane, so the indomitable Americans made the F16. It was not like that at all, it was just easier for the US to do things because of the sound industry in the US. It's the difference in industrial capacity, but this time the United States is the Soviet Union.
17 minutes and 2 seconds to say 'dunno'
I'll wait to see their performance in next Ace combat game 🎉
There is a mistake in the model. The joints for then rudders are not visible in the real plane, they are blended with the wing.
The seamless joints and lack of actuators evidence the use of electric high precision high velocity actuators for constant fly by wire stability control and flexible skin materials.
India is coming with 66G jet very soon.
Tailless fighter concepts were in the 90s, too. The X-36 was one, a scaled-down machine, i believe, built by Boeing.
The problem of low speed stability in a tailess supersonic design was never solved by the US. It appears China has.
Tailless designes had existed since forever (since the beginning of the 20th century). The problem (as with everything) is making them practical and useful to the current gen of modern aviation. And that particular caveat is extremely hard.
"What we know" is literally nothing. We know its rough shape, we know it flies, and we know it's Chinese. Here we go, that is everything.
Man I feel bad about JÉ5 😂 ... It's like J35 forgotten yet she will do most of the PLA job
Maybe the real Bluetooth devices are the F35s that randomly disconnects midair
Been waiting for the video for 2 weeks now. Was sure its coming
So in terms of being a max level dorito, the Ja-35 Draken has now a competitor
The fact is, stealth air superiority foghters isnt all its cracked up to be. For 1, while stealth is strong, it is not very econmical to field large numbers of stealth aircraft. Ultimately, stealth is justed ysed to clear the way for your non stealth aircraft to operate, so it makes sense why they aren't produced in large number.
China has 300 stealth j20s. They have the money to pay for fielding them.
great video with great animations, top work my man
I look at it and I can't help but think "Stealth 'Vaark."
It is a complete stupidity we continue to think "how did that country do that, "how did that people have the technology " as if we and the the USA are the greatest champions, and all others are complete morons.
3:50 you know what else is massive
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I was about to say the same thing 😭💀
@ TAPERR BOYS ! lol
Go on
Amazing animation 👌
At 14:01 "the perfect Boogie Man!" 🤔
Who do we send to kill the Boogie Man... John Wick... aka SR-72 / F-22😂
I’m confused, what makes it 6th gen and not just late 5th gen , what qualifies a jet to be 5th or 6th and even 4th
Just to continue, is it because of even less radar cross section
They call it 6th gen for the clickbait, 5th gens are just fighters with stealth and 4th gen fighters are the ones that incorporate computers
Even the currect Chinese "5th Generation" are probably only "4th" gen! China don't design their own equipment, they steal it without understanding it and then they over exagerate the capabilities! As opposed to the US, who will always understate their equipment and it capabilities!
Speculation. Generations are arbitrary. China never stated that they were 6th gen and in fact they have a different metric than the US.
Higher flight altitude, faster flight speed, farther radar detection unit, better stealth design, so that it can hit the fifth-generation aircraft, but the fifth-generation aircraft can't hit it. It may be equipped with two WS15 engines and a rotary detonation engine used in near space, and the propulsion power far exceeds all existing fighters.
Didn’t the US have a prototype 6th gen back in 2020, but they realised that it was easier, cheaper, and more effective to upgrade the F 15, 16, 18, 22 and 35 with all the bells and whistles that make a 6th gen a 6th gen instead of making a new tail less design that barely gonna beat the 22 and 35 in radar cross section?
You cannot upgrade a 4.5 gen jets to become on par againts 6th gen jets lmao.
@@fbi8372 he didn't say they were on par, the idea is it's more COST EFFECTIVE
That was the casr cause of the jncompetnce of them, mass producing jets now is tech of gone era for them as 6th costs then 300m. Its officially YT superiority airforce now.
Heavy duty Copium 😅
Whats 6th gen even mean
I think that this is just like the panic that the Americans took when the soviets made the mig-25
The problem is the roles might be reversed. The F-35 might be the aircraft that causes China to leap ahead by a generation and mass manufacture something that makes the F-35 seem both primitive and expensive. US development and manufacturing is starting to look as stale and anemic as the late CCCP.
The coping in the comments is wild 😭😭🙏🙏
Its a missile truck, designed to deny carrier battle group an area.
It needs to be stealthy so it can enter the contested airspace. Then fires its payload.
Finally flying supersonic back home before the F35 can intercept it.
Crazy concept.
Assuming it works, this was made in China after all
The third engine probably kicks in to run. The short range and slow speed of the F35 is finally biting back. The navy needs a new stealth equivalent of F14
@anotherbacklog yea, needs a brand new fleet defender. F18 can't cut to the task!
All major powers have been struggling to build aircraft that can power all the modern advanced electronics and disapate all the heat they inevitably produce. Most likely, this is an attempt to solve that problem, just as the European 6th gen program is. It will be missile truck, drone control centre, mini AWAC and stealth fighter/bomber in one most likely. That or it's just propaganda, but somehow I doubt that
I don't know, a Chinese satellite that picked up moon rocks from the far side of the moon and brought it back, a Chinese space station, and a chinese mars lander that made it to Mars and recently, a Chinese A.I named deepseek surpassed gpt and crashed American A.I markets.
Does Chinese tech work?
Its a b2 and b21 hunter
Regardless of ability the 2 Chinese aircraft look so cool
Finally, I have been saying for a while that this was mostly likely not the sixth gen fighter that everyone says it is and not like a medium stealth bomber similar to the US f117
i feel like the bottom intakes are not s-ducted as you can see the intake fin in the model but the top intake might be s-ducted.this is also indicated from a side view, so the turning off two engines and using only the top one in enemy territory for stealth makes sense.
The f22 has the same configuration and it is s ducted.
Baseless claim there mate
How is this 3D model and accurate representation of the real thing? It won't be accurate because we don't even have official dimensions. This is a complete baseless and stupid argument
keep feeling dude these are just model speculations nothing more😂
@@brownguy9135 true but in the 2d drawn model he showed shows the inlet blade for the 2 engines..but I don't know if the model is accurate
@CrispyPratt chill bro..jus sharing my opinion from what I see
The J-35 looks exactly like if you were to take an F-35 and F-22 and mash them together. 😭
Es könnte sich hier bei diesem Flugzeugtyp Chengdu J-36 um einen Jagdbomber der nächsten Generation handeln .
this whole video is just speculation, and guessing. no idea what he’s talking about
so to count6th Generation is it true it needs this ?
AI and Automation: Unmanned or optionally manned operations supported by artificial intelligence.
Directed Energy Weapons: Lasers or high-powered microwaves integrated into the airframe.
Swarm Drone Capability: Ability to command and deploy a swarm of drones in battle.
Next-Level Stealth: Focus on multi-spectrum stealth, including radar, infrared, and electronic emissions.
Adaptive Engines: Variable-cycle engines for enhanced performance and efficiency.
There are no 6th Gen jets yet, so there’s no definite definition, but that is what the US’s next (6th) generation design (NGAD) has, if they build it ($300m).
@@WilliamSanderson86 probably not as presented, probably going to use it to develop and shape future designs.
There are no hard lines or standards to reach, to call it a certain Gen.
Just generally agreed upon milestones by experts.
the chinease : we've been hard at work the last 25 years and built a new 6th gen aircraft
the american : actually , you did not !
Holy shit the amount of copium and spite in this comment section is equally funny and sad 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, they'd fly the 6th Generation fighter that close to the ground, cause reverse engineering doesn't exist.
probably watched too much Tom cruise i guess😂
Great video, excellent animations
Nice video
The third engine also provides a testbed setup for in flight checkouts of newer version upgrades while having redundancy. Also extra power output for newer electrical hungry components.
And also because china has yet to create a jet propulsion engine capable of reaching the speeds and output of the our Gen 6 jets with only 1 modernnengine.
الصين عايشه في المستقبل وتريد الخير لبشرية جمعاء ❤
With it being their first attempt at a stealth bomber or interceptor, calling it 6th generation is probably hyperbolic
You mean, you are taking Copium Express
The Chinese's first attempt at stealth fighter jet program was the J-20 and J-35, the J-36 and that Shenyang program is their first attempt at 6th gen program. Its 100% a 6th gen program, but the J-36 and that Shenyang jet is not 6th gen yet, there are way more tests to go. It will become 6th gen when PLA accepts it. Both Chengdu and Shenyang have their own 6th gen program and Xian is also working on H-20 and a JHXX program. Every country is in uncharted water here, the US and China had a head start with their 6th gen program. I don't see any problem with Chinese having something to show for it.
China is not saying it is 6th gen. They haven't said a single thing. It's just random people on the Internet speculating.
The term 6th gen is NOT literal, it's just a reference point for the next cutting edge aircraft
American call its b21 raider a 6th gen
People usually have a stereotype that China's jet engine technology lags far behind the West. In fact, the Chinese are catching up very quickly in this regard and may even surpass the West soon. This is difficult for the outside world to perceive, but relevant facts will slowly emerge. For example, the latest J20 is already equipped with a WS15 engine that is slightly more powerful than the f119.
China won't surpase US air dominance for at least 10-20 more years.
Many people are incapable of grasping just how much China has developed in 25 years. Many westerners seem to have some kind of ideological, exceptionalist, chauvinistic brainrot that prevents them from seeing just how much the world has changed. They're too locked into propaganda memes to actually critically examine what is going on.
we got aircraft that exactly looks like originated from Ace Combat before GTA VI
12:00 Tailess design old ? Yes. American ? LMAO HELL NO !
This is why you don't rely on AI for your research 😂.
What is your problem with it?
@@War_Thunder_Cat The problem is stated right there on the comment you replied to ....
If i see multiple digits at the end of someones username here in the comments im going to assume youre a paid bot account probably from india or something similar and your opinion is invalid
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Good Video
Given that China have such strong hightech manufacturing experiences and supply China, couple that with a huge highly talented pool of engineer and researchers, the odds are we will see 6 gen from China long before the Americans.
LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I always enjoy your videos, and the animation is usually top notch, but in some cases on the one, the movement of the airframe seems to be in opposition to the movement of the control surfaces.
Looks like a drone from the game ace combat
Hope China is serious about their Arsenal Bird.
So many gifts lately: Xmas 6 gen, new year 450 high speed, Chinese new year rednite/deepseek....what's next? Moon station 😂
I think I made that in simpleplanes when I was 14
west doesn't have?
Wha the .... its technically micro-sized B21
Even got that split rudder still expanding, likely to keep the craft from pitching uncontrollably
It's said to be made of composite tofu dreg, so flight operations are limited only to non-rainy weather...
It's highly advanced radar absorbent tofu dreg
China's like, "We're totally mass-producing this plane," but in the vids, it's flying low-key close to the ground, which shows it's not all that powerful. It's still rocking those copied German wing designs
The soliloquies of ignorant clowns😂
How much y’all wanna bet that War Thunder will “accidentally” leak this plane’s secret documents?
Will AI dumb down humanity?
You Americans don’t have to worry about it. You can always import the Asians to do your work
Of course, look how stupid we are after 20 years of social media.
Wasn’t that a flight test prototype or something and even if it is the Usa has been testing the NGAD prototypes since 2020
Kinda crazy how the usa tests a ngad prototype since 2020 and just now china tests there first prototype and everyone is freaking out,so goofy honestly
Man, the amount of people in here riding the Copium Express is wild. Hate to break it to y’all, but China’s catching up fast-might’ve already passed the US when it comes to air superiority.
That’s a good one. Their equipment is junk. No countries in the world begging China to sell them their highest tech planes. These supposed 6th generation planes are like all their other tech, from stolen schematics from other countries programs. Everyone’s talking about China now. “They have a 6th gen before the US.” This is what they wanted. With the history of American aviation with all the successful cutting edge aircraft programs and massive funding you honestly think China would somehow leapfrog ahead? Gtfoh. China is a strong military and shouldn’t be underestimated but to think they are gonna lead the US in aviation is laughable
What will it take for you or others that they're no longer catching up?
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feel like the caret intake should have the thick sides on the inner and upper sides, instead of the outer ones. Looking forward to J-50 video
I didn't release this video came out 23 minutes ago
The West has sixth generation aircraft in development, a total of four different programs, and several prototypes have apparently flown years ago for the USAF. There’s no indication that China is ahead in development, and whether any of the sixth generation programs actually produce something sufficiently revolutionary to qualify as next generation is for posterity to decide.
I hope your comment made you feel better 😂😂😂
It's not hard to spot you clowns, always believing that it is only US that can do better, that's why US is quickly fallen behind. You’re quick to point out that the West has 3 6gen in development but you believe china doesn't have many other 6 or even 7gen in development lol.
The era of US is over gay 😂😂😂
@@Thejoeviral the US unlike china has proven its technology serval times, and it is a lot more secretive in their programs, there could be a thousand different programs and we don't know, we can't call something "the greatest fighter" just by a flyby.
You are saying there's no indication yet they have a flying prototype unlike the US. Historically speaking, yes, they've always struggled before, but nothing says that they can't catch up and surpass the west. And to my understanding it is going to happen eventually. The only question is when, will it be in 10 - 20 or 30 years. But by the looks of it it would happen earlier than everyone expects.
This can turn out to be like the russian mig 295 fox-bat good on paper but not in reality
@@jonthepolarbear Yeah. In my life I've seen an infinite amount of prototypes. That didn't actually come to fruition and weren't eventually taped even. Even those that did, I don't know a single one that had finished and delivered on it's original promised numbers ( F22 promise of close to 1k, only 200 built. B2 promise of 200 only 20 delivered etc)... same thing with SR71 many promises and not so much deliveries and a quick retirement... same with the F117. So having a great project on paper is one thing. Actually delivering it and it entering service and serving for a long time is another... It's hard to actually make a craft that would last a long time and be relevant, on top of actually building it and everything working for it...
No, the west definitely has 6th gen. The US has admitted we have flying 6th generation prototypes, and said this BEFORE China publicly revealed theirs.
Keep coping. Tech demonstrators aren't prototypes. NGAD in its 2020 form is dead.
@@Flightman453 but lets be honest, the US government is more secretive about their technology, just look at the sr71 or f117, there is a chance that ngad is just a cover-up.
The US flew a prototype pioneering those capabilities 4yrs ago
@@EJack2841 made by Chinese scientists too 😂
@LanaaAmor China couldn't pioneer a piece of serious tech with their country depending on it. They copy & reverse engineer everything they have
They have no combat experience to draw from to guide pioneering tech, they don't even Wargame
@@EJack2841 US only has combat experience against illiterate farmers and still lost 😂. ✡️🇺🇸 Last time US fought germany they had to beg for Soviet union and British Empire 😂 or Americans would be speaking german
Was just a early technical demo, don't think its anywhere close to where China is with their prototypes.
America does have 6th gen. It's been test flown a while back, and they're working on budgetary changes and design refinements.
We can guess, but let's not fall into the Mig-25 situation.
I mean the Mig 25 story was false though. It was built as an interceptor,it was the west that overhyped it.
Or the F117 situation
But we got the Eagle out of the MiG-25 situation.
@deanspanos8210 This is the very intelligent STEM China and not Russia
@@LanaaAmor The F-117 was and still is fantastic and very successful. Not sure what you're talking about.
We know it's not real 😂😂😂😂 and still 25 years behind the US
The first bulletin point should be that it's stolen. China stole this tech from a few places. I can't remember the name of it, but it's on wikipedia.
We get into that for sure! Just you wait
@@FoundAndExplained Excellent, if you hadn't, I would have unsubscribed.
NGAD?
Even if they stole some stuff, they still need lots of development to actually make it, reverse engineering is not easy
Well good for them!
It's like a James Bond or Mission Impossible movie.
If someone wasn't careful enough...
How high, how fast and how long can it fly high and fast for?
How does it compare to "Son of Blackbird"
There is a reason three-engine airplanes have gone the way of the Dodo - they historically were a way to overcome lack of suitably powerful (or reliable) engines, but as engines improved it became easier to use two bigger main engines rather that have the hassle of handling a third one, with its specific intake, air duct and maintenance access route (more so as, in this plane, said air duct is in the way of internal fuel and weapon bays).
So, it is nice to look at, but I helieve that it is just something like a tech demonstrator, built to test the general architecture, the fly by wire software and controls and maybe radar absorbing techniques beyond simple coating materials using available engines.
Meanwhile, I suppose someone in the Chinese jet industry must be working on the engines for what will be the actual plane.
Only a pilot and an engineer focused in creating planes knows how hard (and sick) is making a plane without tail… this is advance technology.