I am amazed at the consistency of tone across all the strings, especially that B-string! And at this price point Sire is really killin' it! Just goes to show that you do not need a longer scale length to get a great B-string sound. Quality of construction and materials is what makes it happen.
Thanks! I was thinking about trying something new here because IMO in editing they sounded very similar but the difference was more drastic in person. I think the curves were a nice little way of showing the difference in character visually, even if it is subtle
I recently got myself the v5R 5 string,and i got to say she's beautiful to play,im considering the p5R in 4 string version..having already bought the m5 4 string I've decided to sell it,dont get along with the neck,replacing it with the p5R after hearing this demo im sold,excellent video Lobster....
I’ve never owned or much wanted to own a Sunburst Fender anything because that finish scheme was so common, and I’m not much of a passive bass guy any more, but the “back to basics” Precision bass tribute/copy (?) with Sunburst and five-string format is inspiring some old-school bass love. I think I could really enjoy this. Maybe not mega-want, but the interest is starting to heat up. Sucks about those tuners, though. The frequency spectrum analysis is definitely interesting and a plus. Please keep this feature for future reviews and comparisons.
I"m intrigued by the whole 5-string P-bass thing. It's not a bass I'd buy (I think that even with 3 basses I've really got more than I need) but it's one I'd love to try...
Thanks for this review, Lobster! I may consider one of these as a backup five-string bass. How would you say this bass fares in comparison with a regular Fender Precision, tone-wise? I love the classic Precision tone, and the previous Sire P5 was a pretty big disappointment when it came to the low end.
I got one of these a few months ago and put the lighter Gotoh tuners on it (thanks for the recommendation Lobster!) as well as some TI flats - it's fabulous. Feels great to play if you like a wider neck (which I do) and sounds just like what I want a P bass to sound like. In particular I was worried that the low B string might sound a little out of place given the old-school character of the sound, but it really fits well with the rest of the range of the bass and is sounds really natural IMO. If you want to hear what it sounds like with TI flats, a foam mute, and some Ampeg amp/cab simulation in the context of old R&B, I recorded this: ruclips.net/video/fikIOoLKaU8/видео.html
Neck dive is my biggest pet peeve in a bass or guitar. It's unbelievable to me that companies are okay with charging hundreds or even thousands of dollars for instruments that customers are going to have to spend even more money on just to fix such a basic issue.
OH, MY GOODNESS! What a P tone, and what a CLEAR-SOUNDING B! I have been reluctant to get a 5, due to B strings sounding too muddy and unclear! This may change my mind!
The P5R sounds fantastic, I’m definitely adding it to my list. My next purchase will be this bass. Thanks so much for the review Lobster!!! Hey question one brand and model is your amp that you are using?
Thanks again Lobster. Any dead spots like those that plague so many FSO's? How do these basses 4 or 5 compare with Fender's American Pro stuff quality-wise. I already know that the price points are very different, but price aside, how do they stack up? After seeing this I may have to try one against my American Pro II Precision V. They sound really, really nice. Again - great vid and thanks !!
This is a really great sounding instrument with a classic P-Bass tone. Honestly my biggest complaint about Sire basses is the weird shape of the headstock. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I just don't like it. (I think it's the flatness of the end.)
Great bass , good looking , great sound good price for a top bass !! Very good review nice playing and the right conclusion !👍👏😄 And soon the V10 dx 5str. ! ( not the P10dx please) because : Sire have listen to your good advice ! And I think the V10 is unbeaten because the P basses had only one good sound ! The V basses has several better sound ! Ok the P bass is a little better than when you play the V bass with the neck pickup but I can take that but the slap sound and the Jaco sound and so on it’s far away better than the P bass . So we all look foreward when you test V10 dx five strings !!!! 😀😀😀
These are great basses. The only change that I made to my site P5R is that I put a Radioshop P-Bass pickup into it. The stock pickup was great, I just love the Radioshop pickups (more).
PLEASE do a video on a passive 4 string Thunderbird. I watched the 5 string version, but it is a VERY different animal than my Epi. Goth Thunderbird 4. Every time I play this bass, it tries to commit suicide (neck dive), and I would very much like to see if new tuners would help me out at all (I enjoyed the 5 string video).
Do you think you’d have to modify anything to run flats on it? I feel like the bar stile string tree might be too close to the nut and you’d end up with a hard angle there. Flats don’t like angles lol. I’m looking into buying one of these and I looooove flats on a P bass so I’m trying to figure that out haha
I installed a bar retainer on my p bass which has flats on it. It's fine. It's an angle, yeah, but not like you'd get from the through-body bridge design.
I've never claimed the rolled edges can't poke, but TBH a lot of developed fret poke often has to do with the climate the instrument is stored in. You can absolutely develop poke on these rolled edges, however if you do and get it addressed it likely won't return.
What would you say makes a good B string on a 34 inch scale? Was told hex core strings are the way to go for a stiffer B. Anything else I should look at? Getting a Yamaha as my first 5 and could use any pointers you can pass along.
@@OlandoMcCall how so? Never heard that before. But people claim a B string get's tighter when you put the tuner on the far side of the headstock (i. e. by reversing the ehadstock) which is bullshit from a physics standpoint. What does make a difference is the overall stiffness of the neck which Sire accomplishes by using roasted maple.
A Plek is a professional setup, the frets are dressed and polished, the nut, bridge, truss rod, pickup height and intonation are adjusted for optimal playing by a guitar tech or luthier.
Yeah a PLEK is a computer fret leveling plus tech does full dressing and everything. If you love an instrument, get it PLEK'D and it will play the best it can. Usually 2-300 per instrument but well worth it if you have a bass you really dig
@@LowEndLobster Do you have it done local to you or do you ship it out? I see Sweetwater offers it as a service, just as an example, but do you utilize a particular company? I'm imagining 2-300 doesn't include shipping?
Commenting again to say: I got to try one of these basses recently. Amazing build quality, and while I think the tone is more "vintage" than the P5, it still lacks a bit of low end (though they did slightly improve the low end response, at least to my ears). They're still using pickups that are designed to use with a preamp, instead of designing pickups that sound good without the preamp. Hope your transition is going well. I saw you at the Bully Thakidd livestream and you seem even happier now. I'm so happy for you :) We miss you, but please, take the time you need. Lots of love, and welcome to the gender non-conforming community, Leah! 🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵
@@Marekki2202 It's affecting tuning stability, but maybe it's more prominent on guitars. Maybe it's just a rumor. ;) I'm not sure because I'm buying instruments with tilted headstocks anyway.
I personally like it. It's a bit of a pain to restring, for sure, but it gives Fender-style headstocks a very even break angle behind the nut. My Squier Vintage Modified 5-string has a retainer bar, and the tuning is pretty much rock-solid 😊
You’ve been making these videos for a long time. That awkwardly painful giggle you let out after every lick you play screams insecurity. It’s hard to watch.
Lobster's kid brother is doing an awesome job since filling in for him.
Bring back the beard!
His name is crab
@@DanielGarcia-tl6ljLOL! The best laugh I’ve had all day today. Thanks.
@@DanielGarcia-tl6ljWP sir.
Bring back the cat
I love my own channel, but I'm "low-key" jealous (as the kids say) of bass channels like yours. Great channel, brother.
Wow, the B string sounds consistent with the other 4... not a flabby mess. Great tone... probably would sound great with flats.
It does! I have an A/B comparison coming with the P5R strung with flats and the P5 with rounds.
@@LowEndLobsterlow tension labellas?
Deep talkin flats 760fsb-tb from Labella
I am amazed at the consistency of tone across all the strings, especially that B-string! And at this price point Sire is really killin' it! Just goes to show that you do not need a longer scale length to get a great B-string sound. Quality of construction and materials is what makes it happen.
Wish they made this in a passive PJ model at this price point.
Super smooth tone. That has the exact sound I usually look for.
Your pick playing is much improved over the years you have been making videos. I think that needs to be my next skill to add.
Thank you dude! It's funny because I would have never even picked up a pick if it wasn't for the channel.
@@LowEndLobsterPeople that come from guitar (such as myself) greatly appreciate the picking parts. Thank you Lobster.
Oooo, frequency curves. There are a lot of cool things you can do with those for making comparison. Hmm ... now let's see ...
Thanks! I was thinking about trying something new here because IMO in editing they sounded very similar but the difference was more drastic in person. I think the curves were a nice little way of showing the difference in character visually, even if it is subtle
I recently got myself the v5R 5 string,and i got to say she's beautiful to play,im considering the p5R in 4 string version..having already bought the m5 4 string I've decided to sell it,dont get along with the neck,replacing it with the p5R after hearing this demo im sold,excellent video Lobster....
Thanks for the thorough review! I played one of these in a music store and fell in love with it. Now conspiring on how to get one!
Very nice review of the P5R.
Many thanks Lobster…
I definitely want one of those! VERY NICE!
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Thanks for the review. Cheers
I’ve never owned or much wanted to own a Sunburst Fender anything because that finish scheme was so common, and I’m not much of a passive bass guy any more, but the “back to basics” Precision bass tribute/copy (?) with Sunburst and five-string format is inspiring some old-school bass love. I think I could really enjoy this. Maybe not mega-want, but the interest is starting to heat up. Sucks about those tuners, though.
The frequency spectrum analysis is definitely interesting and a plus. Please keep this feature for future reviews and comparisons.
Lovely review, young fella. But say, have you seen lobster around? It's been a while since I've seen him
Another good video. Hard to believe Sire still has not found a source for good lightweights tuners but at least they improved the pickup
I"m intrigued by the whole 5-string P-bass thing. It's not a bass I'd buy (I think that even with 3 basses I've really got more than I need) but it's one I'd love to try...
Thanks for this review, Lobster! I may consider one of these as a backup five-string bass.
How would you say this bass fares in comparison with a regular Fender Precision, tone-wise? I love the classic Precision tone, and the previous Sire P5 was a pretty big disappointment when it came to the low end.
Thanks for sharing Lobster 🦞🇬🇧🎶🎵🎸
Bring back the beard! 😅 it suits you so well!
The lobster must periodically shed its shell to maintain its immortality
I got one of these a few months ago and put the lighter Gotoh tuners on it (thanks for the recommendation Lobster!) as well as some TI flats - it's fabulous. Feels great to play if you like a wider neck (which I do) and sounds just like what I want a P bass to sound like. In particular I was worried that the low B string might sound a little out of place given the old-school character of the sound, but it really fits well with the rest of the range of the bass and is sounds really natural IMO. If you want to hear what it sounds like with TI flats, a foam mute, and some Ampeg amp/cab simulation in the context of old R&B, I recorded this: ruclips.net/video/fikIOoLKaU8/видео.html
Neck dive is my biggest pet peeve in a bass or guitar. It's unbelievable to me that companies are okay with charging hundreds or even thousands of dollars for instruments that customers are going to have to spend even more money on just to fix such a basic issue.
true dude!
OH, MY GOODNESS! What a P tone, and what a CLEAR-SOUNDING B! I have been reluctant to get a 5, due to B strings sounding too muddy and unclear! This may change my mind!
The P5R sounds fantastic, I’m definitely adding it to my list. My next purchase will be this bass.
Thanks so much for the review Lobster!!!
Hey question one brand and model is your amp that you are using?
ruclips.net/video/jpR-5EWOigI/видео.html
Thanks again Lobster. Any dead spots like those that plague so many FSO's? How do these basses 4 or 5 compare with Fender's American Pro stuff quality-wise. I already know that the price points are very different, but price aside, how do they stack up? After seeing this I may have to try one against my American Pro II Precision V. They sound really, really nice. Again - great vid and thanks !!
This is a really great sounding instrument with a classic P-Bass tone. Honestly my biggest complaint about Sire basses is the weird shape of the headstock. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I just don't like it. (I think it's the flatness of the end.)
Lobster I live just south of Boston. If you ever wanted to review some bases I own I could bring them by
Thank you once again Lobster :) So I wonder whether this is more low end due to the pickup, or less highs due to rosewood fingerboard?
probably due to the pickup because tonewood doesn't exist
@@Marekki2202 😳 That’s a silly statement.
Great bass , good looking , great sound good price for a top bass !!
Very good review nice playing and the right conclusion !👍👏😄 And soon the V10 dx 5str. !
( not the P10dx please) because :
Sire have listen to your good advice ! And I think the V10 is unbeaten because the P basses had only one good sound !
The V basses has several better sound ! Ok the P bass is a little better than when you play the V bass with the neck pickup but I can take that but the slap sound and the Jaco sound and so on it’s far away better than the P bass .
So we all look foreward when you test V10 dx five strings !!!! 😀😀😀
Will the P5R 4 string have the new pickup for more low-end as well?
Yes, both the 4 and 5 have this
Real good bass her rival sound bettrer when it come 2 slap thats all heavy beast
Sounds good to me!!
These are great basses. The only change that I made to my site P5R is that I put a Radioshop P-Bass pickup into it.
The stock pickup was great, I just love the Radioshop pickups (more).
That is one happy lobster 🦞
Sounds great
PLEASE do a video on a passive 4 string Thunderbird. I watched the 5 string version, but it is a VERY different animal than my Epi. Goth Thunderbird 4. Every time I play this bass, it tries to commit suicide (neck dive), and I would very much like to see if new tuners would help me out at all (I enjoyed the 5 string video).
My big question: Any dead spots on the neck?
Can we expect the P5R Flatwound video soon Lobby?
I found the dynamics to be any and everything one could need. Tuners do seem a bit heavy.So compromise,eh,I,Istill like it.
Nice but wheres the cat and the beard??
How can the terms “vintage” and “revolution” coexist in the same pickup name?
I don't ask questions about naming anymore hahaha. I'm just glad it's not the P5-251G23XZ or some bmw name LOL
Cause musicians want both at the same time for some reason. Everything has to be just like Leo Fender wanted, but also not
lobster just looks like that one senior who got smacked with early-onset male-pattern
Really wish Sir Lobster did a full video on WHY he shaved the beard
This is a great sounding p bass. Even with the tone know all the way down it still sounds great.. love it but still not a fan of the headstock.
I just can't get used to the naked chin! hehe
Do you think you’d have to modify anything to run flats on it? I feel like the bar stile string tree might be too close to the nut and you’d end up with a hard angle there. Flats don’t like angles lol. I’m looking into buying one of these and I looooove flats on a P bass so I’m trying to figure that out haha
I installed a bar retainer on my p bass which has flats on it. It's fine. It's an angle, yeah, but not like you'd get from the through-body bridge design.
Lobster, you have had too many P5 basses. Grab me a 5 string with maple board 😜
I tried one of those and don't agree with you =P They definitely can develop a fret poke even with those rounded edges. And quite a nasty one.
I've never claimed the rolled edges can't poke, but TBH a lot of developed fret poke often has to do with the climate the instrument is stored in. You can absolutely develop poke on these rolled edges, however if you do and get it addressed it likely won't return.
Could you review the EHB short scale?
Who are you and what have you done with the real Lobstar ?
🤣🤣
It's multiverse Lobstar.
What would you say makes a good B string on a 34 inch scale? Was told hex core strings are the way to go for a stiffer B. Anything else I should look at? Getting a Yamaha as my first 5 and could use any pointers you can pass along.
I can tell you that string retainer has alot to do with the definition of the B string
@@OlandoMcCall how so? Never heard that before. But people claim a B string get's tighter when you put the tuner on the far side of the headstock (i. e. by reversing the ehadstock) which is bullshit from a physics standpoint. What does make a difference is the overall stiffness of the neck which Sire accomplishes by using roasted maple.
Curious if they’d ever do a 5-string U5, though would they have to call it the U4?😂
B string sounds better than the b string on my american standard P😅
4strigs review Pls
What is a "plec performed"?
A Plek is a professional setup, the frets are dressed and polished, the nut, bridge, truss rod, pickup height and intonation are adjusted for optimal playing by a guitar tech or luthier.
Yeah a PLEK is a computer fret leveling plus tech does full dressing and everything. If you love an instrument, get it PLEK'D and it will play the best it can. Usually 2-300 per instrument but well worth it if you have a bass you really dig
@@LowEndLobster Do you have it done local to you or do you ship it out? I see Sweetwater offers it as a service, just as an example, but do you utilize a particular company? I'm imagining 2-300 doesn't include shipping?
It's a local guy. I have a video coming detailing the process!
@@LowEndLobster Awesome, thank you. Didn't know plec existed before this video!
Commenting again to say: I got to try one of these basses recently. Amazing build quality, and while I think the tone is more "vintage" than the P5, it still lacks a bit of low end (though they did slightly improve the low end response, at least to my ears). They're still using pickups that are designed to use with a preamp, instead of designing pickups that sound good without the preamp.
Hope your transition is going well. I saw you at the Bully Thakidd livestream and you seem even happier now. I'm so happy for you :) We miss you, but please, take the time you need. Lots of love, and welcome to the gender non-conforming community, Leah!
🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵
I thought that a string retainer on anything without a locking nut is a bad design not a nice touch. ;)
why?
@@Marekki2202 It's affecting tuning stability, but maybe it's more prominent on guitars. Maybe it's just a rumor. ;) I'm not sure because I'm buying instruments with tilted headstocks anyway.
I personally like it. It's a bit of a pain to restring, for sure, but it gives Fender-style headstocks a very even break angle behind the nut.
My Squier Vintage Modified 5-string has a retainer bar, and the tuning is pretty much rock-solid 😊
Sono indeciso nel prendere il sire oppure lo Yamaha bb235
Go for 435
Theres something about Sire that just doesn't gell with me.
Any volume drop compared to sire active basses?
there would have to be since an active bass can push DB. A passive bass cannot do that.
The low action with round wounds sounds noisy and flabby.
Who is this baby? 😅
You must be the reason why the Albridge and the Gotoh's are out of stock lol
5 strings? just say no...
😂 wow no one has ever said that before …
Booohooo
RITE ON BROTHER! NO! ✊️
That's cool, more low B's for me!
You’ve been making these videos for a long time. That awkwardly painful giggle you let out after every lick you play screams insecurity. It’s hard to watch.
It's hard not to giggle when I'm having fun :). What an odd reaction to someone laughing lol
This comment screams projection of insecurity.
Then don't watch.
It’s hard to watch someone visibly getting joy out of doing something they love? Wild.
Off you feck then