Yeah, I'd LOVE to be there for THAT conversation, after they've boarded you! Something along the lines of 'did you bring your own screwdrivers, or do you just need a BIG STINKING HAMMER? Oh, look...YOU BROUGHT ONE!' And, from past experience, it would play out JUST LIKE THIS, too...
Does the coast guard take engines apart too? How about if you have dive tanks? do they require you to cut them open to see what is inside them? Clearly the UNIT can be seen, and the part that is vacuum sealed is the working parts. And they will obviously know what the unit is. So I really don't see that as an issue.... but if you ever find a case where it IS, please rush back here and post up for folks to see. ;)
I can confirm, it's pretty friggen good... Im on the pacific but, nothing is perfect but this is certainly a lot more impressive than nothing at all I'm at the point where I'm wondering if I should try a slightly larger version
Awesome if rocking bothers you. I like a little rocking to sleep better because my bones ache (sleeping beam to beam when rocking hard vs bow to stern when rocking gently :-) This is great for any powerboat as they seem to rock very hard, pounding a lot. The large keel on a sailboat softens the rock a lot.
What kind of structural stress does the counter force generated put on the boat ? .. are there any modifications that have to be made to the boat prior to installation to accommodate this stress ??... It's only going to be as stable as what it's bolted to ..right ??
What if you designed the floorboard itself to utilize the gyroscopic effect. Everytime the boat rocks the entire floor pivots to counteract the rocking making everything level. Or you could use it on a micro level and design tables, counters etc to balance out.
Maybe, but you have 3 axis to work around and this only takes care of 1. What are we talking about? Like a little house boat on a lake? Your gonna need the vessel to keep pointing in one direction as the first issue. But how about just modification to a large camera stabilization gimble. I think that's a better, more efficient direction to go if you are trying to keep a small dish pointing somewhere on a big heave boat.
@@patrickman9681 if the sailboat has an engine or generator for fridges etc then it may be able to provide enough energy for the gyro to be switched on when needed
Has there been any studies done regarding the noise the flywheel makes and it's effect on fish? Most fish stay away from running engines and other noise.
People who need this, don't fish seriously. The noise created idling an engine and the frequency's created by high RPM gyro are totally different. Trolling probably wouldn't make much difference, but drifting you wouldn't catch anything! Who idles while drifting anyway?
I use a sailboat to fish and even a sailing kit with an electric motor on my dinghy. low to zero noise and the heavy keel keeps rocking down. I can always put out a sea anchor on the boom swung out over the beam but I like rocking. I sleep better rocking (and sleeping beam to beam vs bow to stern). Little to no rocking on a sailboat when sailing vs a powerboat.
How do they compare with zero speed fin stabilizers? Cost and roll reduction. What size boats do they all fit? I'm looking at 50-70ft Sunseeker or Princess to live on full time.
there is no fins for one. they are quieter. they work in all weather conditions. they have a company website that lists the models of boats they fit on and can even be called to consult on the refit to put one in.
thomas barlow They are extremely efficient, but they are doing alot of work. So yes, this puppy probably sicks a good bit of juice, I wonder how much it weighs
No. If this device is functioning then you have no rocking to collect energy from. The device is actively countering motion. If you were to try and generate any current it would be done at the pivot point but the base would have to be moving in relation to the gyro meaning the boat is a rockin
I'm assuming this gyro only helps with side to side rocking not front to back. And one more thing, it's not waves that make a boat rock as much as the wind itself hitting the boat sometimes. Noticed this on cruise ships. The taller the boat, the more wind will rock it.
Well that's due to mistakes being made in that exact situation. You shouldn't even comment. Thats like bad comments on Ben and Jerry ice cream on the whole in a situation where one person kept it in a hot car and one person complained publicly.
0:07 I've never seen a boat rock that much on flat seas. I call bullshit. Second proof, look at horizon at 1:27 When it's turned off. Suddenly stops rocking.
You're wrong. I had a boat doing 34 degrees of roll and when seakeeper turned on it dropped to 3-4 degrees. It's the most incredible thing you'll ever experience on a boat.
Whilst this Seakeeper works, the boat stabiliser product in my opinion by ocean torque boat stabilisers works way better for your money, is thousands and thousands of $$$ cheaper and requires no power, and has absolutely no noise.
lol, We had this in the 'tons of mass version'' on the early 598 Class SSBN's So that the boat could be stabilized during launch in inclement weather. Scarry
I don't claim to be an expert on gyroscopic stabilizers but don't you need to exert some kind of force on the water to prevent your boat from rolling? Stabilizing fins? How would it work if you're not moving? Boats become less effected by the waves at higher speeds without a Gyro
There is a really heavy wheel spinning inside. The wheel is mounted inside of a sphere as you saw. The sensors detect which way the boat is tilting and the sphere is rotated in the opposite direction of the roll. Since the gyroscope always tries to keep the same plane which is perpendicular to the direction of rotation, by adjusting the inclination of the sphere holding it, it actually exerts forces in the direction opposite of the roll to cancel it out. It's a bit similar to electronic camera gimbals except those don't use gyros.
The gyro allows the big hydraulic cylinders to create torque that stabilizes the boat.(with a rotating mass, you generate a torque 90° to the applied torque, so by mounting the gyro rigidly on the port-starboard axis, spinning it in the horizontal plane {so there is no reaction to turning the boat}, and then tilting it forwards and back, you can create a left to right torque) Fins are more efficient when moving, but require water flowing over them to work,
Just came from their demo at the Annapolis boat show. I was informed that they will be releasing a version smaller than the 3dc above sometime in 2018. Judging by their other models, I'm >guessing< it should be about $15k and good for 20-30 foot boats. In all honesty, you could fit the 3dc on a 20 foot boat as long as you had the space to fit it and the juice to run it. Your boat would be rock solid. EDIT 20FEB2018: Seakeeper 2 just released. I was a bit off on my assumptions (its bigger IRL than I thought) but still pretty close. 27-32' boats device is 400-ish lbs about 2' per side $22k plus install If they ever view a "Seakeeper 1" as viable, it'll probably be closer to my original guess.
Ok, it's weighted...and their website is RATHER difficult to navigate (without turning on 'flash', which I am NOT going to do)...so no PDF, no real information, no pricing...just glitzy ads. If i have to ASK how much it is, then clearly they are ashamed to just tell me straight-up (glad that Ford and Dodge don't do that, would make buying a car DIFFICULT). Now, if you have a 50-ft STEEL hull with 20-ft beam, talk me through how a gyro for a FIBERGLASS cruiser is going to work on my 1200-hp Cat12 with running depth of almost 10-ft, and compare to the cruiser's expected performance? One size does NOT fit all, and they are offering NO DETAILS on 'what the determining factors are' on sizing. I don't want to make a 'private call' (aka HARD SELL), I want to see the data so I can make AN INFORMED decision (without resorting to comment-sections on yachting sights that have NO BEARING on my vessel's design!)
Like racing power boat? They are by design very low draft and low center of gravity, but it would improve some aspects. However you are adding 300-500lb extra weight in a "racing " boat where light is better. So diminishing returns is how that's referred to I believe.
Maybe a deep V monohull but not tunnel or multi hulled boats power boats. It does nothing for trim or preventing a blow over from happening as the moment forces are larger. You never hear of these gyros installed on a catamaran style yacht.
What we ALL WANT TO KNOW .... HOW MUCH ????????? MRSP $$$$$$$ ???? Stop babling and give down to earth infos : price, + cost of installation, warranty etc..... :( !!!!!!!!
Let's say you penetrate the wrong hole because the swell? Could have been avoided man. But now she won't talk to you anymore and you told your mom she was the one. Damn man.
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Need one fitting when I walk home from the pub
Flatcap007 ja
lmao
thats funny
Comes in a back-pack.
why am i watching this. i don't even have a boat.
im here to masterbate as well
It’s masturbate not masterbate....
I came here from the Falcon Heavy Arabsat mission video...
Same here✌️
I watched this and got my penis stuck in the toaster
Season 23 episode 11 of "how it's made" shows this thing being made.. some insane top quality engineering
I would LOVE this for some drifting or bottom fishing!! Perfect for 2-3ft seas.
Lenny, if you are going to run a test on a Seakeeper, then why did you choose calm seas? I'm not dropping 26K on a Seakeeper when the seas are calm.
It did look promising when it went though the wake rather smoothly. But yeah, I would like to see it being out through its paces.
william weisberg, if you can afford a 200-400k boat. im pretty sure the boat owners could afford 20+k innit?
@@xantarespeek7286 $60k
To be precise... 0:48 it doesn't spin in a vacuum. They do remove all the air but then replace it with helium, to reduce aerodynamic resistance.
1:40
When the Professor asks what is 2+2
But you remember that you've graduated already
No I’m sorry Coast Guard you can’t open that it’s vacuum sealed. 😏
Yeah, I'd LOVE to be there for THAT conversation, after they've boarded you! Something along the lines of 'did you bring your own screwdrivers, or do you just need a BIG STINKING HAMMER? Oh, look...YOU BROUGHT ONE!' And, from past experience, it would play out JUST LIKE THIS, too...
Will Warden they just come and board you like pirates? What is this Sherwood Ocean? That’s a clear civil liberty violation
They violate civils on a daily basis... that’s why they joined the Coast Guard
Does the coast guard take engines apart too? How about if you have dive tanks? do they require you to cut them open to see what is inside them? Clearly the UNIT can be seen, and the part that is vacuum sealed is the working parts. And they will obviously know what the unit is. So I really don't see that as an issue.... but if you ever find a case where it IS, please rush back here and post up for folks to see. ;)
I mean if it's vacuum sealed then they'll know if you've tampered with it to put stuff in...
If you make your money fishing or guiding $26k is a fair price.
RED S7VN very fair price, that’s some high tech stuff.
Well when you can afford a 250k + boat like this one, another 25k won't kill you.
RED S7VN I spent all my money on my boat
Yep, happy clients = rebooking and referrals
@@fazeligma5395 Haven't we all.
Great video! Answer exactly the very question about gyroscopic mechanism for boat👍
Impressive test.... in flat seas. Let me borrow that boat for sailfish season and we'll talk.
I can confirm, it's pretty friggen good... Im on the pacific but, nothing is perfect but this is certainly a lot more impressive than nothing at all I'm at the point where I'm wondering if I should try a slightly larger version
Depending on what date and what plant the cylinders come from I may have cut the tubes, rods and taken them off the paint lines...
Awesome if rocking bothers you. I like a little rocking to sleep better because my bones ache (sleeping beam to beam when rocking hard vs bow to stern when rocking gently :-) This is great for any powerboat as they seem to rock very hard, pounding a lot. The large keel on a sailboat softens the rock a lot.
What kind of structural stress does the counter force generated put on the boat ? .. are there any modifications that have to be made to the boat prior to installation to accommodate this stress ??... It's only going to be as stable as what it's bolted to ..right ??
J. B. Eventually it will break off with the bottom of the boat because of the material fatigue.
Right. Don't invest if your boat sucks.
Very educative. Thanks for this great video!
What if you designed the floorboard itself to utilize the gyroscopic effect. Everytime the boat rocks the entire floor pivots to counteract the rocking making everything level. Or you could use it on a micro level and design tables, counters etc to balance out.
Sure you could. It would be a very wide odd boat with a new problem that the boat didn't have before. So yes but no
You would probably have to add quite a bit of depth to any boat that had a good amount of width. Also more computers and hydraulics, etc.
Ok, so can this stabilize enough to mount a hughes (or other) satellite internet dish on the boat? ;)
Maybe, but you have 3 axis to work around and this only takes care of 1. What are we talking about? Like a little house boat on a lake? Your gonna need the vessel to keep pointing in one direction as the first issue. But how about just modification to a large camera stabilization gimble. I think that's a better, more efficient direction to go if you are trying to keep a small dish pointing somewhere on a big heave boat.
How about testing it on a day with BIG waves.
Nice demonstration.
Have to wonder how fast it would run your battery down... or do I need ot keep a generator/engine running all the time?
they state what the power requirements are.
Seems like the engine/alternator would have to be running. No good for a sailboat. Maybe with enough solar panels?
@@patrickman9681 if the sailboat has an engine or generator for fridges etc then it may be able to provide enough energy for the gyro to be switched on when needed
According to the website, it uses as much power as your boat stereo turned up.
Has there been any studies done regarding the noise the flywheel makes and it's effect on fish? Most fish stay away from running engines and other noise.
People who need this, don't fish seriously. The noise created idling an engine and the frequency's created by high RPM gyro are totally different. Trolling probably wouldn't make much difference, but drifting you wouldn't catch anything! Who idles while drifting anyway?
I guess you did not hear him well. Listen at 1:02
I use a sailboat to fish and even a sailing kit with an electric motor on my dinghy. low to zero noise and the heavy keel keeps rocking down. I can always put out a sea anchor on the boom swung out over the beam but I like rocking. I sleep better rocking (and sleeping beam to beam vs bow to stern). Little to no rocking on a sailboat when sailing vs a powerboat.
Can use in metal hull? with 70 or 80 ft LOA, and 7 ft draft.?
Can it help in storm?
Now let’s turn this phone into a calculator....who the hell says that
Yep thats a good one you may use it
I liked when he said that and it made me really appreciate how advanced mobile devices have gotten
What ? Phones have calculators!
Dave k it adds shock and awe value. Duhh.
Cool looking item
How do they compare with zero speed fin stabilizers? Cost and roll reduction. What size boats do they all fit? I'm looking at 50-70ft Sunseeker or Princess to live on full time.
there is no fins for one. they are quieter. they work in all weather conditions. they have a company website that lists the models of boats they fit on and can even be called to consult on the refit to put one in.
You don't put fin stabilizers on toy boats like yours.
This is some genius stuff they got going on here
So how much juice does this puppy use per hour. Those big hydraulic rams can't be very efficient.
thomas barlow
They are extremely efficient, but they are doing alot of work. So yes, this puppy probably sicks a good bit of juice, I wonder how much it weighs
thomas barlow or spinning that flywheel constantly That thing has to use a lot of power
According to the website, 1050-2300W.
They're pneumatic
This gyro movement can be used further to generate few voltage though.
No. If this device is functioning then you have no rocking to collect energy from. The device is actively countering motion. If you were to try and generate any current it would be done at the pivot point but the base would have to be moving in relation to the gyro meaning the boat is a rockin
How would this compare in stability to a catamaran? Something like a Twin Vee Cat?
Couldn't hurt. Cats are the widest vessel shape there is so already pretty good.
I'm assuming this gyro only helps with side to side rocking not front to back. And one more thing, it's not waves that make a boat rock as much as the wind itself hitting the boat sometimes. Noticed this on cruise ships. The taller the boat, the more wind will rock it.
If you control pitch you could sink. The boat has to go with the flow and keep its bow above crests. No?
Nope, one of these things came loose in a friends boat two weekends ago, it destroyed the boat before it stopped spinning. darn near sank the boat.
Can they be held liable for that?
Gee fuck that
Well that's due to mistakes being made in that exact situation. You shouldn't even comment. Thats like bad comments on Ben and Jerry ice cream on the whole in a situation where one person kept it in a hot car and one person complained publicly.
Was this
approximately 50,000?
Thats really fascinating
Why don't they use SeaKeeper on big yachts? Why use fins?
For how many time seakeeper can work non stop??
it can work as long as you want. they state the circumstances to turn it off to prevent wear and tear but those are quite rae
How much money you got is the answer to any boat question
How many Amps does this thing draw? I'm guessing you may be investing in some extra batteries to run this thing.
As much as your boat stereo on high (according to the website).
@@maxsdad538 Spool-Up Power Input 12 VDC @ 55 Amps
Operating Power 300 - 600 Watts (Sea State Dependent)
Operating Power Input 12 VDC @ 25-50 Amps Maybe just leave the engine running. :)
Класс!!!👍👍👍Интеоесно а сколько весит сам Гироскоп???
This guy is a sea keeper salesman
Do they do a kayak sized version?
James Stimpson lol
You have got to be joking
Kristian Fussell For the record, yes I am🤓
I can whip you one up. Do you have a donor Tecnics record player?
@@joeKisonue haha Na just this old 1210 thing. That do?
1:33 nice role play
how much weight does it add?
550 lbs
From 1:34 Watch the background then look down at the unit...did you notice something?
KAOS yeah it’s fake af
KAOS - the gyro tips front to back to counteract side to side motions.
PapaWheelie Youre right. Gyroscopes are weird machines
0:07 I've never seen a boat rock that much on flat seas. I call bullshit. Second proof, look at horizon at 1:27 When it's turned off. Suddenly stops rocking.
Ferd Vega
Look at the sky. There’s an edit there. Indeterminate time gap.
If the system can stabilize the boat, it can probably destabilize it as well. Maybe they were running the seakeeper “backwards” to rock the boat.
You're wrong. I had a boat doing 34 degrees of roll and when seakeeper turned on it dropped to 3-4 degrees. It's the most incredible thing you'll ever experience on a boat.
Easy Fredo. There's no need to fake this. It's not a moon landing. Turn down your bullshit filter boss.
Should add this to cars and SUVs
How much power does it draw though?
Depending on model.... small one 27 ams when operating. Or so. Check the spec on their site
How about sailboats is seakeeper gyro safe for sailboats?
why don't you go to the company website and look
Is Lenny from Philly?
I like boats that go stable
so how much does that cost?
over 100 to 200,000.
If you have to ask your wife is letting you get one.
I helped install the first 1 in an OBX from high Point nc
And....? It worked, didn't work? Who the hell cares, you got paid?
awesome!
Whilst this Seakeeper works, the boat stabiliser product in my opinion by ocean torque boat stabilisers works way better for your money, is thousands and thousands of $$$ cheaper and requires no power, and has absolutely no noise.
Soon I'll get a boat. I already drive a Dodge Challenger (the land boat)...I'm talking about a Boat for water use...
Very cool I wonder if that would help the high power racing boats at high speed
It would. Do they have issues with roll? Also you are adding weight to a racing boat. Opposite tactics.
lol,
We had this in the 'tons of mass version'' on the early 598 Class SSBN's
So that the boat could be stabilized during launch in inclement weather.
Scarry
Good for small boats.
Very cool
I don't claim to be an expert on gyroscopic stabilizers but don't you need to exert some kind of force on the water to prevent your boat from rolling? Stabilizing fins? How would it work if you're not moving? Boats become less effected by the waves at higher speeds without a Gyro
There is a really heavy wheel spinning inside. The wheel is mounted inside of a sphere as you saw. The sensors detect which way the boat is tilting and the sphere is rotated in the opposite direction of the roll. Since the gyroscope always tries to keep the same plane which is perpendicular to the direction of rotation, by adjusting the inclination of the sphere holding it, it actually exerts forces in the direction opposite of the roll to cancel it out. It's a bit similar to electronic camera gimbals except those don't use gyros.
The gyro allows the big hydraulic cylinders to create torque that stabilizes the boat.(with a rotating mass, you generate a torque 90° to the applied torque, so by mounting the gyro rigidly on the port-starboard axis, spinning it in the horizontal plane {so there is no reaction to turning the boat}, and then tilting it forwards and back, you can create a left to right torque)
Fins are more efficient when moving, but require water flowing over them to work,
Can you make one for a gun? Kill recoil 🤔
just what I need on my 10ft spitfire...
I wanna ask can work for boat 20 feet’s
Just came from their demo at the Annapolis boat show. I was informed that they will be releasing a version smaller than the 3dc above sometime in 2018. Judging by their other models, I'm >guessing< it should be about $15k and good for 20-30 foot boats.
In all honesty, you could fit the 3dc on a 20 foot boat as long as you had the space to fit it and the juice to run it. Your boat would be rock solid.
EDIT 20FEB2018:
Seakeeper 2 just released. I was a bit off on my assumptions (its bigger IRL than I thought) but still pretty close.
27-32' boats
device is 400-ish lbs
about 2' per side
$22k plus install
If they ever view a "Seakeeper 1" as viable, it'll probably be closer to my original guess.
yousef alkandari no... minimum now is 28 ft
They have DC power version.
I need this ingot a bad back
you should make one for ocean going vessels,,,
I would like to see someone who isn't getting paid to promote the product do a review.
that is fucking awesome
You pronounce all words with the letter O as a U sound as in Goo. So, phone becomes Fune, rhymes with tune. Tele-fune..
Ok, it's weighted...and their website is RATHER difficult to navigate (without turning on 'flash', which I am NOT going to do)...so no PDF, no real information, no pricing...just glitzy ads. If i have to ASK how much it is, then clearly they are ashamed to just tell me straight-up (glad that Ford and Dodge don't do that, would make buying a car DIFFICULT). Now, if you have a 50-ft STEEL hull with 20-ft beam, talk me through how a gyro for a FIBERGLASS cruiser is going to work on my 1200-hp Cat12 with running depth of almost 10-ft, and compare to the cruiser's expected performance?
One size does NOT fit all, and they are offering NO DETAILS on 'what the determining factors are' on sizing. I don't want to make a 'private call' (aka HARD SELL), I want to see the data so I can make AN INFORMED decision (without resorting to comment-sections on yachting sights that have NO BEARING on my vessel's design!)
I dont understood
I'd like to see that in a racing boat. It would probably need a much faster reaction time though.
Like racing power boat? They are by design very low draft and low center of gravity, but it would improve some aspects. However you are adding 300-500lb extra weight in a "racing " boat where light is better. So diminishing returns is how that's referred to I believe.
Maybe a deep V monohull but not tunnel or multi hulled boats power boats. It does nothing for trim or preventing a blow over from happening as the moment forces are larger. You never hear of these gyros installed on a catamaran style yacht.
Thats how
If you don’t like the motion of the ocean stay home. Take up sewing
Or take up whinging about things you can’t afford on RUclips
I'm sure a grumpy clown said the same thing when boats were invented.
Nice product .....but insanely expensive
a number of boat makers are now installing them as default since so many people like what they do
For you I guess. A good percentage of boat owners don't concern themselves with cost . The people I'm referring to have watches that cost more.
Good idea but it's too much expensive. Same price that the boat???
Contenders cost $250K+ for a 30ft boat. Try that boat cost as much as a small house.
Why dont you just fish off the dock??
For the small valence of half a million dollars
Yea but it still rocks up n down, you’ll still get sea sick
actually that is taken care of as well
Or.... just buy an Aspen VAT and you won't need this. This is a major issue will ALL mono hulls.
Fuck i had this idea and googled it to see if someone else had already made it. 😑
I had an idea that saved Googled searches that didn't have an answer so I could invent it.
What we ALL WANT TO KNOW .... HOW MUCH ?????????
MRSP $$$$$$$ ????
Stop babling and give down to earth infos : price, + cost of installation, warranty etc..... :( !!!!!!!!
I've heard about $32k.
$26,900 www.sportfishingmag.com/seakeeper-brings-gyrostabilization-technology-to-center-consoles#page-9
Perfect lose the exact spot where your bait tank would go so the amateurs won't get seasick = lame.
most boats now put the bait tanks in more convient locations
„ _amateurs_ won’t get seasick“?
literally anyone can get seasick, doesn’t matter who they are. Even Poseidon can get seasick
woe......... thats cool
WTF we shouldn't live in the same planet🤔
That's so ridiculous I'm a boater not a snowflake! Wow
Nice. Why bother scaling and boning your fish boss.
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Wtf was that test
Amazing ! Wouahhh !!! ;-)
Stupid infomercial...such an unscientific propaganda piece that I'd actually NOT buy a Seakeeper just because it's probably a scam.
$ 55k for that...if that flywheel decides to come apart...Look Out!!!
If you need a sea keeper on a day like this you shouldn't be on the water! Let's keep inventing dumb shit rich people can gloat about on social media!
Not impressed and certainty not worth the money
Jay Blue you are dumb
Now everyone knows you can't afford it. Lol
What happened to man, didn't we go to sea to enjoy the way it moved us?
This is pathetic.
your eulogy I suppose you’d only be happy with hand-carved canoes, eh?
Let's say you penetrate the wrong hole because the swell? Could have been avoided man. But now she won't talk to you anymore and you told your mom she was the one. Damn man.
One degree is zero 2 degree is 100%
One degree to 10 °
I see as 900% each degree is 100%
Ponders attaching bicycle wheel and cordless drill to back of kayak... 🛶 🤔